Drama Time - The Feral Problem

[@herblewis6250]

is clearly the best feral-themed guild name and honestly I'm disappointed with the community at large for settling on

[@hoodiegal]

I wanna be in just to have that under my name

[@tomasspace4819]

"Is there anything new" "no" *Dies to new mechanic What a lame dps, dies on mechanic we didnt told him about, we should kick him.

[@trainingtall]

Man that last little story was so great 😂

[@Sergito800]

This Drama Time was a blessing Mr Preach, yesterday was one hell of a day for me and this dose of mmo humor made me smile after all that :D Thanks!

[@silver50460]

Blizzard can't handle Ferals in their own ranks, it should surprise no one they can't handle Ferals in their game.

[@keithb6344]

I feel better after the last story for my first adventures in WoW. I had leveled 1 - 60 before I found out you could eat and drink at the same time.

[@paralolagram]

It’s worth remembering that awkward silence guy was already tilted to hell and back by losing the staff

[@BM03]

I can't imagine "MOVE, STUPID!" helped the guy cope any better.

[@christendombaffler]

God, that first one... I feel sorry for him. I very strongly disagree that they wouldn't have criticised him after the Mimiron attempt: people being assholes, especially in competitive environments like that, is bound to bother anyone, and raid leaders back then? Absolute scum of the earth in most cases. I think there's a higher chance than normal that they'd already decided not to take him on even before the death, hence Konrad's "nah no new mechanics it's OK" and "MOVE YOU IDIOT" lines. Couple that with the death and you end up with some serious anxiety fuel, especially if you're a not-too-confident kid.

[@torvurd]

How do you get to level 70 playing like that mom? The patience required is mad.

[@gscgold]

The story of the lady who became a healer....that was epic... seriously So glad this series is gonna continue..these are the thing that made this game so great.

[@siyrean]

we had a guy gquit because he didn't click the cube on Mag. Still baffled considering 3 people miss click every week still

[@TheBlueDeath123]

Huntards were a feral / rogue worst nightmare for gear back in the day

[@chezwickcheese139]

My first toon was a Tauren Feral Druid in early BC. It was glorious and very fun. However, I’ve had to drop the Feral because it’s just not worth it anymore. Sad days

[@dectocs]

Why would you say it’s not worth it? Seems to be worth it to at least a handful of us all these years ☺️

[@MGShadow1989]

Has it ever been worthwhile? As Preach mentioned, even at their peak they still only got one spot in most guilds, lol - as fun as Feral is, it has always had a hard time being represented.

[@V2ULTRAKill]

@@MGShadow1989 well at their worst theyre discount rogues without the utility At their best theyre a dps with nothing but damage to bring

[@booradley6832]

​@@V2ULTRAKill asterisk at their worst currently. Previously, depending on version they were any combination of: extra innervate(Extremely powerful when spirit based regen still existed), emergency healer, additonal healer by tossing instant regrowths others, emergency tank, mobility, savage roar for group mobility, cyclone, roots, stuns, melee throughput and healing through improved Leader of the pack. They brought a LOT but the problem was getting raid leaders to see it, getting comps to utilize it or getting players who were good enough to capitalize on all of it to put in the effort instead of playing some class designed for "accessibility" (aka if you're not a person who has a legit disability the reason they appeal to you is called not actually being good) like -assassination- any spec of rogue where they can do as much damage without the effort and without sticking out. To be a good feral player you had to be a real chad, and the amount of chads with principles is very low.

[@NateTheScot]

20:48 in the chat - "G Applications are so oldschool" - Person who has never been in a top end guild in their life obviously.

[@KisameOwnsYouAll]

A while ago I accidentally pet-pulled a pack in scarlet monastery and I was so embarrassed that I alt f4d and deleted my character.

[@sassyplays8140]

That seems a tad extreme lmao

[@TriangularPrism]

Getting flashbacks of running through Gnomeregan with my warlock and forgetting to dismiss my pet before jumping down onto the cog

[@dragonblade8460]

@@TriangularPrism the horror

[@Illyriel]

The Stupidity story was so sweet. Reminds me incredibly much of my own mother - although she never got out of the starting zone.

[@yoya382563]

I miss playing wow so much but I stoped playing after WoD because it’s not as fun anymore to me. Wrath was the best IMO. Love that I found you again preach. I used to watch drama time all the time. For some reason I stopped and I didn’t get notifications. I got a notification of your “quitting wow” and rediscovered your channel and I’ve been subbed still this whole time.. happy I found it again

[@deenman23]

so not only did they use dkp,but it was hidden bids so nothing can even be discussed,jesus efin

[@jensdb7763]

This is so funny and relaxing to watch (also very well told) I instantly subscribed :). Hoping on more of this^^

[@TheTobiasandersen95]

YOOOO RAID TEAM IN MATCHING MOG! Imagine the freaking power rangers guild! :o

[@bcdey84]

“I did a few laps around Dalaran.” I am transported…..

[@iwtjta]

Preach really brings these stories to life :D 44:34

[@jestermh]

LOL, this story made me laugh till i cried and made me miss those good ol days that every weapon was a hunter weapon

[@joeshmoe3853]

Omg. That last story... she is literally an idiot savant. Lmao!

[@mac4491]

Looking forward to seeing you covering FF14 preach. You'll have fans no matter what content you cover.

[@kota4627]

I am a feral druid and I can confirm we are, in fact, a problem.

[@andromidius]

The problem as far as I can tell is Ferals are never balanced. They are either god tier destroying everyone else... or they are so bad you're all told "reroll tree or gtfo". There's never any middle ground.

[@deenman23]

Blizzard must be purged....BURN IT!

[@weedle5221]

Youre the man preach, love drama time

[@hollyobaby6949]

As a woman… I also feel like there’s a clean up that should happen at blizz and I’m going to give them the opportunity to. WoW is not simply one entity. I will say if they don’t make changes I’ll have to give up my all time favorite video game. Which is upsetting but just the way it is.

[@TheTobiasandersen95]

Dude who'd rather wipe than take 1 talent point into a defensive talent gets a high horse from beating a team minded player on dps - So fucking typical man...

[@jamesjohnson9180]

Preach is wrong about wotlk and ferals. The absolute peak in feral performance was in MoP, specifically using the mastery proc trinket from throne of thunder which made them do 300-400k dps in seige of ogrimmar whilst everyone else was lucky to do 250 in top end gear.

[@kurisutihart8386]

No one deserves to be harassed for still playing or streaming WoW. Boycotting won't actually hurt the company, but it will hurt the decent employees trying to do their job & streamers covering WoW. I'm not quitting yet. Like Mike, I'm going to wait and see and hope that the toxic is purged from the company.

[@john6l4]

Feral problem? Get in line: Shaman have been forgotten about since Vanilla.

[@NateTheScot]

? They got mutliple massive reworks over the years from TBC to Cata to Legion. Ferals are still the exact fucking same since TBC, with them LOSING stuff every expansion since wotlk.

[@booradley6832]

@@NateTheScot Feral isnt the exact same, its significantly worse. No mangle debuff to keep up, no positioning requirement on shred, nerfed leader of the pack and that's just stuff from TBC alone lost, not to mention what has been gained and lost since. Edit: I am being pedantic however and what you're saying is exactly true. The framework of the class has not changed and has not even been altered to positively affect the gameplay of a stagnant design in an evolving class and game system. Shaman have had beautiful niches comparatively, and by not naming a specific spec its not even a comparison- one shaman spec has been incredibly powerful every expansion.

[@prodByLavender]

@@NateTheScot maybe not literally loosing, but making spells like primar roar and such baseline for druids killed the spec, we have nothing to give

[@FumiTheSillyGirl]

as a former feral druid Our time was Legion after our buff It was just so emjoyable not juggling 100000s of plates like C&C against a pro player

[@nietscherarek]

While Feral was great at that time, Moonkin was even greater. That will always be the issue.

[@cashnelson2306]

@@nietscherarek this. Same issue survival will always have - the inherent advantages of being ranged means competing melee specs need to be incredible, not just great (and feral/survival rarely even reach great - Enhancement has this issue too but they can at least be windfury bitches now)

[@maxw565]

That's what feral was about man. Plate spinning deluxe... eversijce 7.2 it's been going downhill with less and less focus on bleeds

[@sheesh3214]

Preach stop ignoring the blizzard lawsuit

[@maxw565]

@@sheesh3214 are you demented??? He addressed it several times by now.

[@godzgoliath]

The 3 Freya thing made brought up again made me think, did people in higher guilds go straight to 3 or work their way up? I got to hm very late Uld early toc and it was either 1 or 3 on my server.

[@jamesdixon6903]

We worked up to it

[@cci9459]

I cried laughing at the second story god damn it was pure G O L D!!!

[@tinakiriakos6895]

Lord this would have been me if my kids didn’t help me!

[@fredriklind6727]

Heroic Azshara, where tactics in P3 meant dick all and you just popped hero and blasted her.

[@kingbrago6775]

Oh my god it has been WAY to long since I watched a Drama Time. The "HOLLA BALLAS" got me so fucking pumped! Lets fucking go!

[@sinjmckenzie6170]

Is that the Vaatividya limited edition elden ring tshirt mike? You absolute chad.

[@Xynth22]

I've played WoW since vanilla, and loot drama is still the most ridiculous thing that goes on within the game. Loot is such a non-issue if you are in a decent guild, regardless of skill level. In a heroic guild, as long as bosses are dying, it really doesn't matter. And in a mythic guild, it should be all about the team rather than only thinking about your guild. And if these things aren't happening, the answer isn't to bitch about loot, but to gquit, find a better guild, or kick the person bitching about loot.

[@booradley6832]

This has been something that has evolved within the game. Early on people largely were very self centered and the idea of the team didnt matter since feeder guilds were a constant thing. You would want your gear to move up to the next level, fuck the rest of them. Of course good guilds existed who were always like this. There's a reason we dont hear a lot about them on drama time- they handled their situation like adults and nobody was upset. Nowadays we have a much more clear cut team first mentality(for the most part, shit tier guilds and players still exist) and teams stick together more often than not. Also not being stuck with purely your teams raid lockout (Since you can do normal with one group, heroic with another, mythic with a third) makes gear acquisition a lot less of an unattainable goal. I'm not disagreeing with you im just putting it into context for anyone else who reads this comment why things were that way. Its not that good, smart and successful people and systems didnt exist, its that changing cultural perception within WoW takes along time and changing the nature of people takes a lot of training and structure.

[@Jones-ke6bt]

Imagine being excited about a loot. What a concept. God they have failed so hard.

[@kenthustargaryen3962]

Anyone else go back and watch the Gokufan story again when it was mentioned because it's just that good?

[@VanNimpi]

The Stupidity Story is sooo awsome

[@Etzlo1]

you might want to link your discord in the description, had to search quite a bit for it :d

[@gearhead417]

I really hope that Blizz can get their shit together because it seems like every few months is something else involving them and it sucks to see something I use to love fall so far

[@weatheredseeker]

I hear ya. And if New World doesn't suck the community could be facing a decent long term hit, especially if they wanna play FF too. I'm with you, hopefully the wow team gets it together. Personally wouldn't be surprised if Ion is on the hotseat based on the performance of the next expansion. Not sure how that works though

[@ggletsplay5041]

I quit wow when they took tree form.

[@two-bittin-pot2987]

personally, i’d love to see the mythic raider play some Hollow Knight. Pantheon of Hallownest or git gud! 🤘✌️

[@BlackJack705]

"The rats need to go" Yeah mike but what happens when the rats run the city? When the rats are half the population of that city?

[@k2k4]

Then you go. And if the rats are half the population of all the towns, then you may be the rat

[@BlackJack705]

@@k2k4 Oh NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO squeak.

[@dakotashroom5401]

Then you call a metaphorical exterminator.

[@socasack]

Madseason has quit WOW It is time

[@Giferis]

Could swear I used to have Fullmetal account on Twitch MANY years ago :D

[@obamanizer1463]

my fucking ears....... quiet for most of it.. then 23094823409283420934x louder when yelling.

[@dusk1947]

I share your sentiment about not burning the city down, when you can simply remove the rats. The problem is: most of the leadership who could control a rat population are either rats themselves, or appear content to condone the rats. The values and decision making process of the leadership appear bankrupt. When that is coupled with the piss poor decision making process for the game, going on 4 years strait: I can no long support this company. Their are enough other deserving games and companies, I don't need to support Blizzard leadership by continuing my sub. Likewise, most of those other companies are hiring. Their staff should not feel trapped. Their are also a multitude of other games for streamers to move too. New World, FF14, ESO, GW2....... However, I agree we should not harass others for choosing a different opinion. This is a personal choice. But, it's a choice where excuses should be removed. Excuses are why this behavior has been perpetuated for this long. If Blizzard had shown a willingness to listen, and was open to feedback; this might be different. But they are bereft of any sense on admitting fault, taking responsibility, nor accepting outside opinion. Thus, this will continue so long as the current leadership is empowered.

[@JamiePace-wo5li]

Feral Guild Name: The Itty Bitty Kitty Committee! (Super late to the party, I know, just found you.)

[@Syke-vv4tj]

She should definitely play ff14 great immersion

[@kesamek8537]

Preach thinks the problem is some rats and uses the movie industry as another example. However, video gaming and movies are indisputably pillars of 'culture' and so I offer for your consideration a name you should know already and a short video you can find here on KZbin 'Terence Mckenna - Culture Is Not Your Friend '. The problem isn't simply the rats. It must all go.

[@hurpdurp916]

Oh man I feel for that author lmao. Anxiety is a motherfucker.

[@maggimaster]

I turned off my sub It was set to renew in September I am going to play the time I have left

[@stillhuman4662]

Come on Mike. You knew about Blizzard and their terrible conditions long a go. Just like you knew about Method and their sexual abuse.

[@sylviusleonard5144]

Does anyone know where the intro music is from? I'm going insane trying to remember where it's from!

[@Kronosbattlemaps]

Scroll worthy hahahaha

[@MissMarvel_]

As a CE feral main, I clicked on this video hyper-prepared to defend feral rights.

[@booradley6832]

CE? Cenarion? Common Era? Clearly Enraged? Creating Explanations?

[@MGShadow1989]

It's quite sad to see how many people regard those who struggle with anxiety, as stupid...

[@joshuawilliams8835]

I'd love to know the /played of the Warlock of 53:30 lol

[@321karli]

me, to be honest, lol I'm so sad when I hear it out loud lol in my defense, the buttons only lit up if you had talents btw lol and my son was 17 lol at the time lol I'm 46, not 70 lol lord I'm so dying lol I promise I do know how to play now and I did start ff14

[@joshuawilliams8835]

@@321karli It's understandable at first, but It surprises me when people go unfamiliar with systems for so long but get so far. Don't recall what era this was but that a hell of a lot of levels and grind to go through without seeing it but i commend it! She was having fun all that time. I hope you're enjoying FFXIV! I also play on the Siren server!

[@Snoozems]

No excuses lol, I remember ulduar as a hunter, spear off general was bis

[@V2ULTRAKill]

But if you didnt have bis that staff wasnt bad at all

[@booradley6832]

No excuses means no excuses.

[@Snoozems]

Yeah, you don't take away someone's bis for something that's "not bad" for you...

[@V2ULTRAKill]

@@Snoozems my guy Whether its your bis or not doesnt matter when my simmed dps with your bis is better than your simmed dps with it Whats more valuable to the raid is more important than whats more valuable to you And given the state of hunters at that time Chances are the damage boost to the hunter was higher

[@booradley6832]

But your simmed dps wasnt better than the top class in the game at that point. Also, your simmed dps is great and all but its not your dps. Go listen to someone with credentials such as Max or even Preach about sims. They'll tell you that they're useful but not anything really valuable since they dont actually take the real life circumstances of the fight into consideration. TL:DR- Hunters are incapable of seeing reason.

[@RE-sc9bz]

Holler Bollers!

[@ghostfacedninja1000]

"Watch their streams".... Real talk, this maybe a bit out of touch with the experience of your average gamers ;P

[@alexthelander2478]

Eh I’d say most raiding guilds have at least one person streaming while they raid

[@dragdritt]

like he said "most wow streams have like 1 or 2 viewers", most guilds do actually have at least one person who streams, even if there really isn't an audience.

[@rneumann7229]

Or who streams and asks the rest of the raid to have it on a second monitor at 1% volume to boost their numbers and drives everyone mad being so pushy about it

[@Knives7777]

Funny 1:56 Sco and the rest of Method (that wasn't a predator) weren't given the same courtesy. Funny how that same energy was not kept. Not really a fan of Method (Paragon is life) but the way people handled that was kind of scummy and pandery imo essentially posturing for twitter. DO what you gotta do I just thought it was a curious thing to see this asterik of not cutting off stuff immediately (because its something people like or it affects their bottom line) from a number of content creators at least Mike here had a conversation.

[@obiemekajnr]

Holla ballers and a bro fist to u all!!!!!!!!!

[@Ulrican414]

Let's be honest Activision is a horrible company. They're terrible to their customers and even worse to their employees.

[@thechosenwiller5517]

what is your discord channel im having a hard time finding it.

[@blargblarg-jargon9607]

he still looks bald though, the fuck was the point of the pube transplant?

[@nikkonikkoshite]

LUL the oldschool surv hunter "stat sticks" XD XD XD

[@deenman23]

the personal loot thing was basicaly the guy getting ''scamed'',the boss even on personal will still drop a maximum number of items,not every single person in the raid can get an item,so by that alt rogue being on outlaw loot spec,it automaticaly decreased the chances for the main rogue to get it....this was just mind blowingly huge levels of stupidity from the raid leader

[@Kreygore]

1:37 sentence didnt age well

[@deenman23]

replacements being recruited is a perfectly natural thing,i been with my guild since mop and the gm would always use that as a half joke half serious thing,see that guy?if you play worse hes replacing you,and people often did get replaced,what do you expect?to keep the guy tthat constantly wipes? this one time our gm threatened to disband the guild if we didnt kill the boss next pull,and we did haha,and it wasnt some farmed boss,it was a mythic progress boss,it was kinda funny

[@onyourleft5648]

I had stopped playing before this controversy, but canceled my sub the same day, they don’t respect the players and don’t respect women they don’t get money is my thought

[@ronsorage78]

Its hard to say "just cancel your sub" because its going to effect the people that are good and just trying to work rather than the people who did it. The courts will need to deal with them. Most of the people responsible don't even work there anymore. This will not end well for any involved though and it shouldn't.

[@TerraFilmTV]

To the woman wanting advice on how to get that feeling back. Play Final Fantasy 14 ;)

[@Levinsbun]

This but unironically

[@Grimbonez]

Giga true

[@blckkeef]

I thinking about quitting myself I've played for like 12 years on and off with retail and since day one of classic I've already quit retail but its hard trying to stop playing classic I've got a great guild I raid lead and am an officer in but I'm dipping my toes in to eso thinking about making the switch soon. I wish our game wasn't in such bad hands. :(

[@jonathansoko1085]

dead game walkin

[@sheesh3214]

No lies detected

[@jonathansoko1085]

@@sheesh3214 facts n cheese

[@stankweezul5715]

Dude I love your stuff and will never NOT watch but...I cant come back to this game until theres a serious Purge of their employee base. This is beginning to be a habit for them to always have a major shitshow occurring.

[@omensoffate]

Lulw

[@grone1778]

"The rats are the problem" Rats are everywhere, it's true, but they can only truly thrive in cities where the structure allow them to flourish - the more dirty the the city, the more rats will thrive there. So you can't just isolate the issue to individuals - culture will always be a factor.

[@yosomith]

The last story sounded like my mum when she was alive

[@asasdsaasda]

To much russian in that eastern european accent m8 but close enough

[@xxfreemasonxx4025]

BYE BLIZZ , PLAYED SINCE WC1,D1 everyone says what about the people still working there . Sorry to say , Bliz is a cancer now . the brand is dead , their integrity is dead . only way to fix this scourge is with your wallet

[@maxw565]

Bye noone cares

[@pixeljauntvr7774]

Dont let the door hit you on the way out.

[@rarristar]

Innocent until proven guilty, I'll wait until after the lawsuit before making any decision on blizzard/activision games.

[@Kechavx]

Last story is 100% fake

[@ElPincheDruk]

1:49 SHIIIIIIILL meh whatever, lol

[@brethitchcock5885]

Afraid of hurting other people is what a victim would say. He is afraid and that's what they make the world run on. Fear is a currency u know its true.

[@Veolynn13]

who’s “they”? it’s not clear from the context of your sentence.

[@Scruffed]

Well they have like 9500 employees and millions of players, if everyone cancelled their sub over this I think it would be hard to argue that thousands of people that have nothing to do with the stuff in the lawsuit wouldn't get hurt. Preach not wanting to hurt them doesn't make him fearful, it makes him a human with at least some basic empathy rather than a short-sighted, hot headed idiot like so many in the Twitter sphere and forums are.

[@chriscarr990]

Didn’t gearscore start in ToC

[@irarosenblum9062]

No it was available in Naxx and possibly beforehand. I downloaded it in Naxx 10.

[@Nobleshield]

It didn't start to really gatekeep until around then.

[@neretilderem7029]

The feral story is a very poorly written fan fiction. The best horde guild invited him, it felt like Method talking to him... meanwhile he said they were the first guild to kill HC Freia (in 10 pull... )

[@omensoffate]

Most of these drama times are fake lol

[@MrGryph78]

That feral sounds like a trash human. Gquit a solid guild because he lost a staff to a survival hunter, when that staff was also BIS to their spec. Then jumped ship at the first opportunity over this perceived slight. The first guild sounds like they were better off without them.

[@ScorpionP2C]

Ive personally heard Preach say that we need to wait and see proof etc and yet here he is judging based on accusations. So either he knows something or he is being hypocritical. Either way, not a good look.

[@dectocs]

Yeah everyone just wants to have their hot take

[@ScorpionP2C]

@@dectocs Yeah I normally like Taliesin as well but hes done the same hypocritical crap. Maybe there is bad things going on, maybe not, but he did the same thing a few vids back about "dont judge until you get the facts" and hes hot taking for views too. #eattheirown

[@pixeljauntvr7774]

@@ScorpionP2C Just watched Taliesins video addressing this and it's nothing like what you're describing. At the end of the day this whole situation is much bigger then that of a KZbinr. So it seems only fair that some might not want to touch this story.

[@maggimaster]

“We need proof” California files lawsuit after 2 year investigation I think they found proof there bud

[@MyLifein2D]

The first story makes no sense, seems fake, maybe that did it in prepatch?

[@ScorpionP2C]

"I have nothing positive to say about world of warcraft" see ya you canceling hypocrite.

[@booradley6832]

???

[@Slashresto]

This was the fakest story ive ever heard, first of all Armor Pen gear was litterally nonexistant until ulduar besides the rare occasional item yet he has SO MUCH armor pen yet hasnt even raided ulduar lol. Imagine making up a story just to get on Dramatime.

[@jamesio20]

If he had been raiding ulduar he could have had some. Not to mention every piece of gear had tons of gem slots. I remember arpen stacking started in ulduar to my recollection

[@asasdsaasda]

while the story might be fake the AP thingy was real, I was softcap with my hunter in Ulduar, it was not that hard, gems and that OP trinket from (nax if i remember correctly)

[@Slashresto]

​@@asasdsaasda Yea u had the Grim Toll and gems, but real ArP stacking didnt start until Ulduar and then Hardcap was impossible to reach before u get DBW from ICC for most classes. You didn't rly wanna stack full ArP gems before ulduar as Hit/Exp was just way better value early on for most classes. On Pservers it's totally diffrent then it was back in retail since wotlk is prob the absolute most changed expansion from start to end. (Blizzard did massive massive changes in each patch basicly, like DoT's critting wasn't a thing until Ulduar for example).

[@asasdsaasda]

@@Slashresto 'You didn't rly wanna stack full ArP gems before ulduar as Hit/Exp was just way better value early on for most classes.' as feral probably, as a hunter i know arp was broken the moment you could softcap, and that was possible with naxx trinket, hardcap was reached with the trinket from Halion

[@Slashresto]

@@asasdsaasda Hunters are usually the exception as they dont need Expertise at all and only hit rating.

[@scroom1202]

Dehumanizing others by comparing them rodents... Careful Preach.

[@liraaell]

He's dehumanizing the individuals that dehumanized others in their own workspace. Eye for an eye.

[@scroom1202]

@@liraaell So you think Mike is as bad as them then? I think he's better than that, but you can have your opinion. Dehumanizing others, especially by calling them rodents, leads to talk of rounding them up for extermination historically. I just want Mike to be careful so he isn't wrongfully compared to someone else that said those words. He had a lapse in judgement with that comment, but I think he's a good guy.

[@liraaell]

@@scroom1202 I don't think he's as bad as them, because there is obviously a MASSIVE difference between treating women as objects and calling people rats because they act in horrid manners. As for your reasoning, I see your point, but I honestly doubt he had such things in mind when he used the term. I think he went for "rats" because it's generally considered a pathetic animal, thriving in the dark/under people's noses, and mostly found in unhealthy areas (cough Blizzard workspaces cough).

[@xavariusquest4603]

These are allegations made by a corrupt State. They may be true...they may not. But just because Ca decided sue a company doesn't mean its true. You don't know the full allegations, the parties, and most importantly, the evidence.

[@gHGhej]

Only SLAPP suits are filled not to win, so they believe they have the evidence to get a win.