Drama Time - The Off Tank's IQ

[@puresinn6996]

Ff11 was my first mmo. I got randomly assigned to a jpn/aus server. You could only solo mobs till around level 10, beyond that, every single mob that was your level or higher(required for xp) required a group to fight. At 15, you have to get a drop from a bogy in a cave, who was about 3 levels higher than you. The mob was a slow spawn, and slow drop rate deal. I had to spend a week worth of days trying to get a group for it. After a week of ZERO drops, I finally talked a high level Japanese player to help me. And that unlocked the ability to have a subjob. But, you had to unlock and level those jobs too. It was such a steep STEEP learning curve of a game.

[@maxrusty3596]

That's not a learning curve that's just a time sink...

[@BlueWoWTaylan]

I wouldn't call that Curve...That is bad game design.

[@OtakuWrath]

My mom played FF11 with me back in the day, She soloed to 75 on multiple jobs killing easy prey monsters. It could take her multiple days to gain 1 level and later it could even take up to a week but she did it, She killed easy monsters all the way to max level. She couldn't beat Maat to get past the level 70 level cap and I couldn't beat him with the jobs she had at level 70 either which was Black Mage and Monk. I kid you not she unlocked Paladin and soloed it to 70 so that I could beat Maat for her because Paladin was the easiest job to beat him on and it was the job I mainly played which I gladly did for her and she was very happy. This was before the exp books, Way before trust NPC's. No help, she killed mobs that gave her 30 to 60 exp until she hit 75. She also maxed out fishing, Got lu shangs fishing rod by fishing 10000 moat carp herself without buying the moat carp she literally caught 10000 of them by herself and was rich with over 10 million gil from all the fish, crystals and random crap she would sell. It may have taken her months to do what others did in weeks but she enjoyed the game and she still grinds and solos on FF11 private servers to this day just like she's always done and she's still making tons of gil.

[@ruin6702]

So the reason for the random server assignment and high difficulty of combat was that they wanted to have that final fantasy trope of total strangers coming together to save the world. On top of that they wanted to encourage team play, so you really needed a group to do anything significant. Its a pretty cool idea in theory, but it just doesn’t work in a practical sense.

[@Direwoof]

Ye I like thos times in a MMO where you just kinda do your own thing for a while.

[@InariusPrime]

FFXI was my first MMO. Started on Midgardsormr, made a few friends, and then they jumped ship to another server, which they wanted me to join them there, so I spent the time literally remaking my character over and over and over until i got it, Valefor! 1-30, you were locked into playing, and since you play ffxiv ill use the abbreviations, WAR,MNK,RDM,BLM,WHM, and THF (thief). Level 18 you could unlock a subjob, which you would have to level completely seperately from your main and it would always be half your level. Post level 30, you could unlock DRG,SMN,PLD,BRD,RNG(ranger), DRK, BST (beastmaster), and SAM. ANYWAY I was a Tarutaru(Lalafel equiv) SMN, which meant I had the biggest MP pool in the game and the only MP regen baked into the job natively. When leveling, a SMN tended to always be a healer in content. Hardly ever actually summoning, just sub white mage and get to healing. So I would have to stop leveling SMN, switch to WHM and level it. Had to get it to level 37 for the max level of a subjob. ANYWAY, there was one time i went into a party, going to go to Bibiki bay to grind exp, I would have been about level 72 at this time. So the party first started kinda good. Was getting about 200-300 exp every 45 sec-1 minute. Then out tank had to go, but luckily the party leader was able to get a new one pretty quick. A NINJA! Got him out there and started. Keep in mind my heals are not near as potent as a WHM main, and i only have access to up to cure III. Ninja in FFXI would "blink tank" meaning they would cast a spell and put up 3 shadows of themselves and not take damage until those 3 shadows got consumed. At level 72, he would have also have had the second version of that spell way earlier, being able to cast the 1 or 2 when the other was on cooldown. Usually when I got a NIN tank i could also summon and DPS to make the fight go quicker and I thought this grind fest was going to be a lot of fun. So we started, and i noticed he was tanking massive damage. Nobody else seemed to notice, they werent healing of buffing, so why would they? So he died a few times, and I was yelled at by the party for not keeping him up, spending too much time on my summons. I noticed that the only time he didnt take damage would be when I would summon Garuda and give everyone an AoE blink or when I would summon Titan and give everyone AoE stoneskin. He died a few times. I started to point out that I didnt think the ninja was casting Utsusemi at all. He said "Of course i am!" and I was kinda asked to shut up about it, quit summoning, and heal. So i did just that. Even with me focusing on healing him, he would die still. I would go practially OOM after each pull and would have to sit and rest to get my mp back. I was berated for not bringing juices and other food items (i did bring my ginger cooking which gave me mp5 when resting). The party members started to get really agitated with me. I once again tried to point out that the ninja was not casting the right spell. He was casting elemental ninjutsu but not Utsu. He of course said that he was. This kept up and i died myself a few times by overhealing and cranking out heals using divine seal (doubled the potency of the heal), thank goodness for casting Reraise on myself. The party leader got fed up with my lack of healing capabilities (completely ignoring that with the first tank, we didnt have a problem at all), and kicked me from the group. Bummed out, I went near another camping area, tossed up my flag for party invites, and watched how things went down. The new healer for the party got out to them, and it lasted about 4 pulls before the WHM casts warp (subbed BLM) and left while the NIN 2-houred (killed himself but doesnt lose exp). I received a tell from the previous party leader asking me to come back and apologizing for not listening to me when I said the NIN wasnt buffing himself. It was nice about that same time I got an tell and invite from a JP group who was heading to Bibiki and wanted to know if I would like to DD/buff since they had a RDM to heal. I responded in roomaji saying yes, and told them I was already sitting in a good camp, that I was American, so if that was ok . Straight up ignored previous party leader. The day was saved, got all that EXP back and then some. Mini ending note, most of the time if you weren't Japanese, JP players would ignore or say "JP ONLY". Except me. I was known somewhat on my server for getting my friends and myself into JP ONLY groups. Who could resist my adorable Tarutaru with emoticons with my messages. Honestly, I wish I knew of a way to contact some of my old friends and crossing my fingers that the 20th anniversary might lead to that reconnection some how. I mean I still talk to two brothers from Las Vegas who I met in FFXI at the age of 13, who I drug to WoW in 2007, and then to FFXIV when it was still in 1.0 and still play games with to this day but there are some friends from California (Hitomaro) and Hawaii (Jounouchi - he was a huge YugiOh nerd) that I miss and randomly think about. Like use to buy phone cards with our allowance so we could call and talk while playing FFXI or shoot the shit. Anyway! Thats it!

[@timmyjimmy3647]

My favorite part of the ff11 story is that it dropped again 2 weeks later. Which means 2 things: 1. He RUINED that guy for something he got 2 weeks later anyway (max level pettiness) 2. If he was just NOT an asshole he would have also gotten the chest piece and he could have continued playing with the guild. Crime never pays kids.

[@r5n]

Today Preach learned a bit about the history of FFXI. BTW, this is why the FFXIV community is so nice. The OG FFXIV community is the OG FFXI community, and we're paranoid about our rep sometimes lol.

[@TBPGames]

As a ff11 player of the peak of endgame I could run you through so much drama and so much of the systems lol. The drama was top tier.

[@Steken]

Congrats Mike! :D Love drama time!

[@zerolosi]

I was freaking out when I heard 50! I 100% thought preach was in his 30s, happy 38th Preach!

[@198sambrrs]

The FFXI tale had me smiling the entire time. I never played it but my late best friend played it zealously for many years so I have some frame of reference for it. I daresay Author knew him, he was a top end player, as he was in most games he played.

[@timmyjimmy3647]

Cheers to your friend mate.

[@Kitsune10060]

that FF11 story is nuts. and I approve. Justice was served.

[@jacquigraham4062]

Thanks for all the awesome videos and hope you have an amazing day! I noted during watching Spike Flail story's description of FFXI sounds a lot like Eureka, however I noted that the world pass system was cause of server congestion, if you got on at off peak hours you can select the server best suited to you, server congestion is because they didn't have regional servers, Everyone from the world played on these servers.

[@light18pl]

I'm pretty sure FF11 did it to autobalance server populations. That way if a server population goes down, you can force all new players to create characters then. It's kind of smart in a stupid kind of way.

[@xBlackDawnx]

These are the highlight of my week

[@ChessJew]

HOLLA BALLA AND A BRO FIST TO YOU PREACH

[@___IG]

👊

[@povaleczkavarensky9032]

That little burp was the final straw... I´m clicking subscribe... Love you, man :D

[@thedarkside7508]

Happy birthday Preach!

[@markup6394]

Happy Birthday :) Hair's looking good! 1:01:40 --- I wouldnt say that Lightups was "ruined" after that. He could have created a new character, right? Sure, he would lose everything and would have to start from scratch, but honestly... yeah, thats what you get from cheating. And its nice to see a game where cheaters dont get away with it. Was it worth it? Well, to work for something for a year with your group of what? 40 players?, then yes, its more than just pixels in an online game. If it truely was of no importance than Lightups wouldn't have cheated in the first place, knowing that his new guild wouldnt like that and that he would get kicked... He took that risc, though, and has to live with the consequences. My first MMO was Guild Wars 1 ... and loot was randomized, so there was no drama. Every once in a while some rare weapon would drop (never armor: armor was purchased for special mats and platinum aka gold at a crafter-NPC) but unless you used it yourself (except the Greens) you could trade and upgrade stuff at your hearts content.

[@ArchonRahal]

Spike Flail was one of the funniest ways to MPK a party that beat you to the Nidhogg claim. As a WHM main I could spam a ton of heals to eventially rip threat and spin the dragon, potentially wiping the rival party.

[@BM03]

The moment and I mean the MOMENT he typed "Spike Flail" I KNEEEEEW it was FFXI. I knew it was dragon time, babyyyyyyyyy!

[@Metheril]

Holy shit Mike, The hair looks amazing.

[@thriftingtonpost]

I loved the FFXI story in this drama time. I played XI from 2003 to 2007, when I finally left it for wow BC. Had over 10,000 hours clocked in by the end of my time in XI. The horror of end game is well seared into my mind, having finished 5/5 Koenig by farming the Kings to death. So much fun seeing Preacher finally hear about it!

[@_aPaladin]

the world pass system was cause of server congestion... But if you got on at off peak hours you can select the server you want. The reason there were server congestion is because they didn't have regional servers, Everyone from the world played on these servers.

[@Joe-it2dh]

Here's kind of a silly story for you: I've been playing FF14 for several months now. Immediately after taking my first job to level 80 I started to get FC invites (I am a VERY introverted person by nature and distrustful of others by nurture) and I wasn't interested in joining an FC so I would just decline the invites. Well as I kept playing and leveling more jobs up to 80 I started to get more and more invites every time I played to the point where I couldn't play for more than an hour without getting an invite. So I started writing comments in my search page like "not interested in FC's" or "FC invites auto rejected without DM", just trying to come up with ways to stop the invites, nothing polite worked. I decided if being polite won't stop them then telling everyone to "shove their comments and invites" might work, nope it still didn't completely discourage people. Exasperated I decide to give up on trying to head off the invites and decide I'll just have to deal with them and the DM's. So as a pre-invite warning to the recruiters I put in the search box "Introvert", just that one single word, and decided if anyone wants to DM or invite me they atleast have a warning that they will most likely get rejected. Since that day I have not recieved even a single FC invite, and I love it. The FF community is great, accepting and mostly not toxic, but they can be overly nice in trying to invite everyone without regards to how they might feel or want to play. There were many times I would recieve an invite from the same person multiple times and sometimes even multiple times a day. Maybe one day I'll join an FC but until then I'm fine playing solo.

[@Ohan]

The best way to stop getting guild/FC invites is to join one. Find one that doesn't care if you socialize. Better yet, make your own with only you and few others in it.

[@BransonGood]

you could just set yourself to busy and they cant invite you, I'll never understand "solo players" in a mmo, i guess you watched sword art online..

[@edgarlarios4718]

I joined an FC for the buffs, and that's it. Never talk to anyone. You missed out on a lot of bonus xp. Lol. It's all good though. To each their own.

[@Joe-it2dh]

@@BransonGood did you not read my comment? I'm an INTROVERT meaning I dont like dealing with other people on a social level. Also I'm VERY distrustful of others both of which culminate in me not being the biggest fan of other people. Should I not be allowed to enjoy MMO's because of how I was born? I occasionally recieve DM's because I use party finder and sell some stuff through shout chat, so I can't set myself to busy. If you dont know what an introvert is look it up. You probably know one.

[@Joe-it2dh]

I joined an FC for a total of 3 days, the login notifications, the constant pings in FC chat, the DM's, ..... I just couldn't do it for very long. If I were to consider making one the first rule would be "Messages in FC chat are an insta ban". Its not that I hate people, because I genuinely don't hate anyone, I just can't stand being around other people for extended periods of time and I never trust anyone.

[@christopherclayton5500]

What kind of math genius isn't willing to show their work? 🤣

[@InfiniteUltima2077]

XI was my first MMO as a youth, went back to do end game a few times its really nowhere near as bad as you think, peak non hand holding. the worst part was standing around looking for groups as a dps after level 30.. but that was fixed later. quite the amazing MMO for its time.

[@ulltramagnus85]

I mean if you like spending all your time chai n pulling mobs in a 5 man group...

[@InfiniteUltima2077]

@@ulltramagnus85 I did! we usually had amazing pullers, it was a neat system. we'd grind for hours just chatting and making friends. I suppose it's fair to say that game is great for people who love grinding.

[@Direwoof]

I loved teh job design I love teh art style too. Elvaan Paladin, teh Elvaan is teh only MMO race that matches my body type, lanky but strong and lean. All other MMOs are either too huge and jacked (night elf wow) or too skinny (Elezen FF XIV).

[@Havok135]

Yeah, thats the FFXI I remember. I remember slaying sheep on a hill, just to get a rare one to spawn which drops the rare/ex sam G katana. I spent 8hrs killing...waiting...killing...waiting, for nothing. I also once accidently rolled on the Joyeus, a rapier type weapon that had a chance to strike 1-3 times per auto attack. I had to take a picture of me deleting it from my inventory, and a picture of the chat log saying I deleted it (which I did). You would lose approx 10% xp apon death. An depending on which raise you got ( 1 2 or 3) would determine how much xp you lost. If you were max level of 75, you would only accept a raise 3, hardly a raise 2, and never a raise 1. I played a warrior/ninja (yeah, I never tanked because ninja tools were expensive an I played how I wanted...and still do regardless of what the community says is best). Dual weilding Woodsville and Maneater, hot swapping out gear before I used my TP wpn skill. Now the bad part about dual weilding is....you feed the mob TP, so as a dps it was decent, just a steady stream of damage like a DoT. Gear in that game...some would be lvl75 and still be wearing like lvl50 starter job gear. Gear was so hard to come by..its what you had to do. Making money was a chore, like a second job. Questing never awarded you xp or money. Instead it awarded reputation that you could never see. You had to talk to certain NPCs an depending on how they talked to you...would let you know how much rep you have.

[@Lady_Moonsong]

That fucking hill in Gustaberg, yes

[@christophbolte1672]

Oh f.... I think Preach is talking about Neocron as his first mmo! If I'm right.... I feel you! It was a funny ride

[@udiar]

Hell yeah it's drama o clock

[@BeauxPhades]

I was on Kujata. Haven't finished listening but I'm terrified this is gonna be about me being a stupid ass middle schooler.

[@maggz1967]

Loved the FFXI story - enjoy spiderman with your family

[@axocopan42]

"I was not there to see this as I was laughing" :D

[@aSinkingShip]

Depending on when you started playing, a stack of 12 crystals would pay for your world pass. But the true gamer way wad to re-create your character until you got the server you wanted to play on.

[@RE-sc9bz]

Yes, it is necessary to destroy that persons character so they can never effectively play it again in the case of the ffxi story. He knew exactly what he was doing, so he has to deal with the consequences.

[@dizy3354]

Looking good man, it’s inspiring. Happy birthday

[@darksamus105]

6:45 I'm the Warlock that's permanently stoned in my guild on Wrath Classic. And they're talking about making me a class officer LUL

[@edwincancel5396]

my guild didn't want to let my 11 year old daughter raid because well, she was 11 and played boomkin but I got them to let her play for at least the trash to gauge her DPS. she murdered the dps charts for the entire raid, the dps below her was pulling about 2/3'rd her numbers.

[@EloquentTroll]

I'm not a crackhead, I'm respeccing

[@intruder313]

Back in Vanilla warriors did not look for Strength so much as Armour/Stamina gear because this was long before all gear was Sta+

[@thriftingtonpost]

Some world bosses took months if your guild was bad, like Absolute Virtue and Pandemonium Warden. But bosses like Kirin you could get a bunch of pop sets pretty quick. Kirin in particular you usually had like, 20 full sets, minus Ulli's stone you needed for Byakko needed for his seal. That would be the bottleneck. Ulli spawned 2 to 3 times a day, and there were always multiple groups camping him. But every time you claimed Ulli that's basically another Kirin.

[@pipz420]

Gold world pass was made for a sense of immersion. The cost could be got with little gil but it might take you 10mins of time after 10-20 hours of play. Me and my friends got world passes and its just apart of the ffxi experience and very fun imo.

[@AdrianBold352]

Thanks for the video.

[@Aracos84]

Happy birthday Preach! Haven't heard a nc reference in ages now I feel old xD

[@edgarlarios4718]

The Spike Flail story's description of FFXI sounds a lot like Eureka...

[@MasterZero99]

Happy birthday, Preach!

[@tiffanyb9275]

🥳Happy Birthday Preach!!! 🎊🎁🎉

[@brendanhart517]

oh FUCK the arcano crystal happy birthday Mike

[@deadnoobie2859]

29:00 Not defending the idea, but the 'why' was to prevent server congestion from everyone going to the same server. Having been in the beta as well as playing it live through first expac, guilds came from other games and congested popular servers, and they were trying to prevent that as much as they could. And that was their 'solution'. It was a poor one to say the least.

[@Nemaro24]

The beast of Caerbannog cave! He's got a mean streak a mile wide and Shap pointy teeth. 🐇

[@Veolynn13]

35:12 sounds good to me. one less gear slot to worry about

[@UninformedProduction]

I'm a bit late to the party but to answer your question at the end: Yes it is 100% worth it to ruin that person's experience, if you choose to ninja you deserve the punishment

[@Snagprophet]

Preach, can I just say you look great for your age and you look like you're still in your thirties?

[@franfaye2167]

Take an ingame loan to buy a phoenix down so you can res your dead friend, if you canot pay off the loan within the appointed time, game time will be taken off your sub time.

[@chrisdrew3944]

I love this petty revenge.

[@Lastneuron66]

Happy birthday Preach

[@CaffeinatedLala]

You should give Eureka a look, to get a taste of the old ways once again.

[@MrAdelaideRS]

Happy birthday Mike

[@ninjaman0003]

so sad! i made that chart of the loot system from last week and they didn't forward it to preach!

[@puresinn6996]

Happy Birthday Mike!

[@robertfugate2232]

Yay drama time

[@teddybear-cb3kc]

Happy birthday Mike.

[@hub1986]

Lol great stories this week i was surprised though on an ff11 story but was cool

[@Basta_Fox]

Man the hair really looks good

[@thelowelozed4080]

Happy Birthday mike, Thanks for all the awesome videos and hope you have an amazing day!!!

[@simonbutler5873]

Cool story bro…but can you LEROOOY JENKINS!

[@MrTalicor]

Holla Balla and a Happy birthday to Preach

[@Eas_the_Planeswalker]

Happy Bday Mike!

[@InfiniteUltima2077]

Happy birthday my dude!

[@short0811]

Happy birthday Mike!

[@MrShivshank]

FF11! my first mmo. my rdm/thf made so much gill sneaking out on hostile maps to rez groups.

[@Madbronine]

Happy 38th \o/ hope your level up day with the family was nice.

[@Mozokuni]

Happy Birthday!

[@Dorvin55]

Preacher doggo in the background ^_^

[@jsmrt6875]

A GIANT BRO FIST TO YOU ON YOUR BIRTHDAY!

[@Nonbinarysmile]

So funny cause that looks 100x Better than WoW outfits that are spray painted to your body lol looking like a nood model with large shoulder pads.

[@MattsCafe]

great video

[@Thor_worthen]

Happy birthday!!!!

[@aimanahmed6477]

Happy Holidays!

[@mitebg9665]

What MMO was Mike talking about? With taking pills to respec and having a fuzzy screen for 10 minutes?

[@xzygy]

That hair tho!

[@RoboBongoCuckooCop]

lol when you first said 50 I was rather confused, you definitely don't look anywhere close to 50

[@EmoEmu]

I remember FF11. I had bought it because I loved the FF series, but um. No. Thank. You. I ended up just fishing a bit and never really got into it. Didn't buy a sub after the time that came with the discs ran out.

[@xtremefurrycat]

always find it a bit weird that the guilds I ran in never had a class like officer, it was more like the guy that knew there class you would talk to and then figure out the rest on your own. Also happy birthday Mike

[@mrjack901]

I was in 2 Guilds in Classic that had Class Officers to classes with alot of players. In my case where I was Rogue, in the first Guild we had a Class Officer, but it was more of a figurehead or spokeperson for the rest of us, we simply decided the order of the loot by Paper Scisors ( Professional, I know ) and that was it. In my second Guild we were to few and new to be have a Rogue Officer, so It was whatever. So I find kinda normal to have a Class Officer in these big guilds for management, but to be honest, I do find weird the amount of power or influence these people seem to have in these stories.

[@xtremefurrycat]

@@mrjack901 the guild I was in we were the top guild of the server so no you don't need a officer for classes just need to know the people you play with and a few to help manage it. Also helps that you have players that want to help each other out. Our numbers in guild also were not super huge so didn't have to deal with added bloat and people missing out on raiding.

[@dragonseth07]

I've heard from old FFXI players that it was a good game when they played, but they absolutely don't recommend it lol

[@Demonsslayx14]

Oh man, Mine is the 12/19th :)

[@quorthunsargeras7054]

Preach, you have hair now. What happened mate?

[@kn0bhe4d]

Which was the depressing questline?

[@ianaldridge5601]

Good

[@pinapod]

I've never played any FF game! :D

[@gaarajeffri1512]

Are the stream only on twitch? this has been uploaded for like 12mins

[@sk_singh_saab]

👌👌👌

[@alwest888]

ff11 is awesome^^

[@literallypuni4091]

Will we ever see Preach's thoughts on why the *Sylvanas* fight is bad? Teased for years.

[@MrDean-zz2se]

Anyone have the preach gaming discord?

[@Rubydude]

🙂

[@sreeragcs3471]

Noish

[@Dylstubb]

DUDE LOOK AT THE FUCKING HAIR ON YOU

[@grumpyoldwizard]

Happy Birthday. Your hair looks great. I still miss your adventures in WoW, because I don’t care for FFIV, but is understand you reasons.

[@TheDemethar]

i had a wow guildie named discoturtle. i wonder if it was him.

[@Crix_Gaming]

F

[@EmoEmu]

Rubbish. Happy 50th!