Legion Endgame - Gearing, Professions and More

[@AlvinEarthworm]

Don't encourage the pro-flying whiners, Preach. We've already had several threads on the WoW forums consisting of people bellyaching about the fact that flying won't be available in Legion until a later patch in its lifecycle. Which is sad because Legion hasn't even left Alpha yet. People shouldn't just be able to unlock flying by hitting max level or through a gold sink. The Pathfinder method is the best compromise that Blizzard could come up with. Aside from that though, it looks like there has been some considerable effort on Blizzard's part in giving you a more diverse endgame. At least in comparison to the barren mess that was WoD. August can't come soon enough.

[@Preachgaming]

+Mark Haynes (Alvin-Earthworm) I wish I didnt have too and really I didnt, I just know it will be a major thing. However, I cant pretend that I didnt wish I could fly doing the content nor is it right if I ommit that from the report; would be a lie. As a point of interest, there was NEVER a point in WoD that I felt that way.

[@AlvinEarthworm]

Preach Gaming I can appreciate that. However, you know how some people can blow things out of proportion and they will try to use your statement as fuel to the fire in their vendetta against Blizzard. Despite the developers best efforts to try and make up for the train wreck that was WoD.

[@AlvinEarthworm]

+Flaise Moroz And when someone has an objective opinion, you tell them to go kill themselves. How fucking old are you? Does your mom know you're watching KZbin vids instead of doing your homework?

[@MrCamel254]

+Flaise Moroz If you were not a fucking moron you would grasp the reality that flying changes the very core gameplay experience of exploring an area and how you have to interact with it, overcome obstacles put in your way and, you know, navigate in it. If an area is designed by designers who know that it is gonna be traversed by flying mounts those areas will not have the same meat to them as if designers knew that people had to walk/ride through them. Just like you cant simply turn of quest markers in a game that is designed around them, simply not flying in an mmo that is designed around flying wont do shit for you.

[@Imagineriagames]

+Preach Gaming There is a Quest That will give you Aviana's Fether in legion btw. i think it's in the south-west of highmountain. where the water fall is. and it's not just a quest ...you have to do the quest is particular way to get it.

[@GrimalkinOnAir]

You know what will blow my mind? Revamped First Aid.

[@Perid0tStar]

+Grimalkin Mine too! I havn't watched the video yet but I noticed an achievement for going around and healing a bunch of people with the first aid. Its gonna be cool as hell :) we havn't had a quest like that since the starting zones lol

[@TaikanzGames]

This video alone has left me more excited for Legion than many others in a long time.

[@Rhoxmaster316]

Short quests but long travel times?! Sounds to me like subtle rewards for actualy exploring the world! I like that shit. That sounds cool to me. I'll bet my hat that the gateway for getting flying will invlove doing a FUCK TON of world quests. They want you to feel the size and geography of the world that they designed. Long travel times means the WORLD actually means something. I think thats awesome. But at the end of the day its all up to opinion I suppose.

[@zenkonasa8256]

+OrangeLazarus You nead to do 100 diferend world quests for part 1 of flying

[@BlueFlash25]

+OrangeLazarus Yea i feel you, what other done in week ive been doing month and i enjoyed every second of it. But i understad that slow exploring and RP isnt for everyone.

[@Perid0tStar]

+OrangeLazarus I'm also glad to hear that the travel times are long--because even though I didn't watch a lot of alpha coverage, it seemed like the zones were very small. It could have been a trick of the eye though since they increased the view distance (I didn't watch the video before commenting this so if he addressed that then I don't know yet).

[@masterlavek]

+Perid0tStar Yea i felt like that too, but in fact the zones are some of the largest ever.

[@Perid0tStar]

Keval Parikh :D :D yay!

[@HKRazieL]

17:00 if i have to be completely honest i would actually think that just the reason that people have to travel everywhere so often all the time on foot will maybe actually kinda somehow perhaps make you meet people in the game? maybe some world pvp? or am i insane for suggesting something like that in an mmo?

[@HKRazieL]

hope is all we've left with...

[@Merlininsider]

Meet other people? Are you insane? I'm only here to win the game and go home. :Þ(Yes, don't worry, I was only joking!) ;)

[@DraphEnjoyer]

Legion's success relies solely on some kind of content patch in the middle. A lot of people criticized MoP but at least it had content. If we have another 2 tier expansion with the last one last 14 months, this game is as good as dead

[@chimchompat5909]

+MrZurata Honestly, Mop had so much content and I really liked it alot more than cata

[@StephenTheZ]

+MrZurata Agreed. At this point I have no doubt that Legion is going to be a pretty good time, the part where it has to prove itself will be keeping the content coming. I loved the model they went with in MoP (one big patch one smaller patch), would be really happy to see it applied to Legion as well.

[@Lorkin32]

+MrZurata I miss the times when a expansions success relied on the content which were released when one purchased the actual expansion, kind of like tbc and wotlk

[@swest3731]

+MrZurata This could not be more true. The beginning of the expansion is going to be great, everyone is excited to do new events, gearing, quests, etc. but you're right. If they don't continue with content patches it's as good as dead.

[@igorjurdana1311]

+Hillebrand1 lol sure buddy :)

[@MrCaptnrex]

right now here are some of the hidden effects for artifacts -Feral Spirit, Balance Druid: Ancient and powerful magic has affected this creature. Only a powerful Druid wielding the Scythe of Elune can dispel the effect. -Hunter's Rush, Feral Druid: The Fangs of Ashamane have fed on the blood of beasts, providing a 3% movement speed increase. The rush will end upon entering combat. -Call to the Eagles, Hunter: When you are below 40% health, a massive eagle comes to your aid for 10 sec. This can only occur once every 3 min. -Overcharge, Arcane Mage: Aluneth has recently absorbed power from a nearby source of magical energy. Arcane damage increased by 2% within the Broken Isles. -Lightning Burst, Windwalker Monk: The gust of wind from your landing hits nearby enemies and knocks them back. -Might of the Silver Hand, Holy Paladin: The Light empowers you, increasing your damage to Undead by 100%. -Overloaded with Light, Discipline Priest: Light's Wrath is getting hot. Your next Light's Wrath will do massive damage. -Gaze of the Val'kyr, Fury Warrior: Odyn has granted you a second chance to defeat that which has bested you in combat. Do this within 8 sec and Odyn will grant you your life and restore 50% of your health. -Spirit of Vengeance, Paladin: When you die, you return as a Spirit of Vengeance for 15 sec. -Ashbringer, Retribution Paladin: The Ashbringer has a chance to instantly destroy any lesser demon or undead creatures.

[@chasingdirt4302]

Preach, you're single-handedly winning me over with Legion. You're flatout the best and fairest WoW content provider and I really appreciate it man. I'm actually looking forward to getting back into WoW on the launch of this bitch. Thanks man Kerelm.

[@adamparker1504]

I want to see these worlds quests go outside of the new islands and into azeroth , pandaria , northrend. Make them true " WORLD" quests. I want to see the old zones relevant again. This is supposed to be biggest Legion invasion ever , want to see it affect the rest of the world. I don't want to just read about it in a book.

[@Khaorel]

+adam parker I have read many DUMB things BUT you have really nailed something on the head! I hadn't thought of this yet but I do too! Very constructive hope it reaches somewhere, tweet it to blizzard it might happen. One can only bring about change after setting it in motion.

[@goodshowmanythanks]

I agree, but this would be extremely weird, due to how the world is built. If you go back to Northrend at Legion, you actually go back to a years old continent where everything that is happening is taking place before the ICC raid. It would not work unless they do an overhaul of Northrend, which they'll probably never do.

[@Willlll17]

+adam parker yeah, they need to start making use of what is already available instead of only using the brand new stuff.

[@oneseventytwo3260]

+Maxim Militiae ahh yeah tell blizzard what we want and they will listen hmm im sure theres an answer they would love to reply to this goes something like ..you think you want it blah blah blah :)

[@adamparker1504]

+adam parker I mean they could make even avaible to low lvl players. Take them out of the cities waiting for dungeon Queues to go stop an invasion point. That scales them up too 110 so they can join end lvl players to fight back the legion from your faction's shores.

[@Yappology3789]

Hey Mr.Preach! I'd just like to say, that, although i really enjoy your Transmog competitions, your Drama Times, and every other similar video, stuff like this, professional and yet quite positive videos about WoW, its classes, endgame and such are the reason I have been subscribed over 2 years. I hope you keep this up. Your Fan, Iliya

[@ArnoBlignaut]

This looks so bloody promising!! Really good hearing someone like Preach, having mostly good comments and thoughts about the content thus far. Means a lot! Keep up the good work Preach! PS: I genuinely hope that the Demon Hunters will be a success as well, so much lore and history are bound to them. Cannot wait to create my very own horned, demonic wielder of warglaves!!

[@Detinator247]

Anyone remember the when Preach saw a Seal in the Bathtub? I'll never forget xD

[@scubadoo1238]

Thank you so much for this over view.. Makes me super excited. "big hug"

[@Dalqvist89]

I like this Preach. When you sit down, look us in the eye(so to speak) and talk to us its when you are at your best. More of this please.

[@joshyman221]

Really enjoy how this stuff is looking. Regarding world quests, however, I'm just worried they won't matter after a month. If all they reward is gear and rep, then as you said, a lot of people won't do them once they've got that. I don't know how to fix this; perhaps make the gear rewards quick for simple gear, but providing longer term rewards as well?

[@kerenton5897]

+goodsire Nah, after patch 7.1 they will introduce free blue pvp gear and other catchup gear that will make all this totally pointless.

[@PurpleDerpy]

+goodsire Won't we be able to trade duplicate pieces of BOP gear as well as break it down into Obliterum? I feel like that might be a good enough incentive to do those gear-rewarding world quests. Plus, there's always the chance a gear reward can upgrade to have crazy good stats. As for the rep quests, that's another story. I'm not sure what they could do there. Perhaps phase out the rep rewards with something like Order Resources, gold, or Ancient Mana, the newly added Suramar currency. Or perhaps completing X amount of rep world quests, you get a temporary buff that increases the rewards you earn from other missions.

[@darthenx2585]

Am hoping that the gear isn't BETER that the gear from dungeons or heroics.

[@PurpleDerpy]

Sergio Zermeno I think it CAN be better than heroics but it's entirely RNG.

[@davidburlingame2421]

Great info, solid points all around. Thanks for sharing and keep 'em coming Preach.

[@ENJ00Y_]

This is the first "legion" video i watched that really got me excited for it. Being rewarded for proffessions is so important.

[@slurms777]

If crafted gear is worse than LFR gear then the awesome professions changes are fucking pointless.

[@1trevor30]

+Phil Gillespie I don't think crafted stuff should ever be better then raiding gear. Crafted gear is just used to get you ready for raiding.

[@slurms777]

1trevor30 You consider LFR raiding? I agree that crafted gear should get you into normal mode raids, but if I still need to do LFR whats the point of crafting gear for that faceroll mode?

[@xxadee97]

+Phil Gillespie no one should consider LFR raiding, but crafting gear is usually the gear you Come into Normal with and is your *Starter raider gear*, shouldn't be doing LFR with Crafted.

[@keither1982]

+1trevor30 lfr is not a raid its a joke.

[@Dartz-]

+1trevor30 I personally think the current iteration of crafted gear is good. You can replace badly itemised pieces with better itemised pieces. It's a nice little bit of customisation whilst not being overboard.

[@NoContextOasis]

I don't understand, you say you want flying because it would be easier to complete world quests, flying destroys any interaction within the game, the zones become a barren wasteland, and you talk about the community being short-sighted

[@christianwood5349]

well you can deside if you want to fly or not :p flying makes it so much better to lvl and questing

[@theazerothtourist]

+Christian Wood it doesnt make it better, it makes it easier. easier isnt always better.

[@NoContextOasis]

+Christian Wood If you want to contribute to the ruining of legion be my guest, WoW is probably the least interesting blizzard game anyway

[@malscyllis]

Im a pro flyer if there's nothing to do in the world *cough* WoD

[@Nimicry]

I enjoyed the video. I find it funny that mining has a story line now. It is a cool idea. Extremely informative video, Preach!

[@Graenolf]

These new implementations sound really promising. I hope an emphasis on story and lore is brought back, and then I think I could get hooked again.

[@xcaliber316]

hell yeah I love questing and just running around seeing the world, I'm loving this idea!

[@anelson96]

I hope that stuff like this (world quests, Suramar) scales with your item level as the expansion progresses.

[@SwedetasticGames]

+Alexander Nelson Pretty sure it will. And if it does, it is like the ENTIRE expansion is viable as a catch-up mechanism, which would be fucking delicious as a concept instead of "Go do Tanaan tho m8"

[@kerenton5897]

+Jonathan Borg (SwedetasticGames) Except if Suramar scales as the expansion progresses, then the early raids and other content becomes obsolete. Why would you do raid 1 or 2 if Suramar dropped raid 3 equivalent items.

[@harrison1735]

+Alexander Nelson Ilvl scaling (or scaling around ilvl) isn't planned for Legion. You should grow in relative power as you obtain gear and not feel like you're on a treadmill going nowhere. The good news though is that because they're changing the way secondary stats work, the power creep will be far less than in WoD, as you start off with a decent amount of secondary stats in base 110 gear but don't gain as much as ilvls go up.

[@Terminus_4]

I like it, I really hope this keeps the world full.

[@filipbatora7523]

Minds of people are interesting. Lots of players on forums complain how Vanilla was better and how you had to walk to do stuff instead of portals and flying. Yet when Blizzard creates content which requires you to walk to do stuff instead of portals and flying, people start to rage.

[@Lighthammer18]

+Filip Batora Because you only hear the vocal minority. Every post by Blizzard is bombarded by hate from someone, doesn't matter what the post is about. Flying in Legion? The vanilla guys will cry tears of blood. No flying in Legion and the entitled millennials will cry. That's just how it works. Personally I prefer the world being very large and without portals, mounts in early levels, flightpaths everywhere, but that's not what everyone wants and I'm not gonna whinge about it. The game split it's fundamental spirit about half-way through Wrath, IMO they should've just made another game that is easier for people with no time. And I don't mean that in a bad way, I can perfectly see how vanilla or TBC would be a drag if you didn't have a lot of time. I have a lot of time though and I really liked the enormous world that vanilla and TBC offered. I doubt Legion will go back to those days, but Nostalrius and Mark Kern are talking to Blizzard about legacy servers so maybe I can play there eventually.

[@MrDodongodongo]

+Lighthammer18 *COUGH COUGH* (two server types) *COUGH COUGH*

[@webbc99]

This all sounds very positive. Nice to hear some really good stuff about legion!

[@harrison1735]

The part of the artifact history quest that mentions "the catacombs below Suramar" is actually talking about The Arcway dungeon. That's where the fourth book is.

[@jamesross4135]

are they putting the same effort in secondary professions like fishing cooking etc like they are doing for primary professions?

[@BC-zl3ez]

+james ross They are doing arch so more than likely.

[@jamesross4135]

+Bryce Cicero o thanks

[@benjaminkrawchuk3217]

+james ross Fishing even has it's own artifact weapon iirc

[@jamesross4135]

lol

[@SwedetasticGames]

+james ross From what I've heard, yes. Fishing gets it's own bloody Fishing Pole artifact! xD

[@MaxAtTheMax]

8:06 the tauren on the right is wearing Dual Doomhammer (the vanilla version)

[@GrowlingRB24]

+MaxAtTheMax Naah, those hammers only have the same colour scheme, the model for the vanilla Doomhammer is the Mass of Mcgowan model :)

[@sundertooth1666]

I'm very happy to see this! I haven't been excited about Legion since it was announced at Blizzcon, and I have been regretting my prepurchase until now. My Prot Pally may become a little more boring and got actually got kind of gutted, though I think you were a little dramatic yesterday Preach (example: not mentioning that Judgement crits are supposed to give you a free SotR, [now changed to Judgement reducing the CD on SotR] and now avengers shield does not buff your next SotR, making guardian more viable). But still, seeing blizzard make an effort to make professions fun again, and the removal of several "carrots" (suramar and not gearing super hard in world quests) makes Legion look a lot better.

[@TheOneChriss]

Nice video guy. I have to say the world is looking beautiful. Damn.

[@Easydiamondlol]

+Christopher Erskine HES NOT YOUR GUY, FREIND!

[@NeilRoy]

What I hated about Warlords profession gear was there was a stupid limit of only 3 pieces you would wear. To me, this made it utterly pointless. I could get 3 pieces from a dungeon run, why waste my time leveling a profession and not be able to use much of it or build a set etc. And of course, gathering was almost pointless, why, everyone can gather everything in their garrison. So it's nice to see some changes in that regard. I do hope professions have more work done with them. And perhaps make it worth your while to be able to gather and sell.

[@BryonLape]

Have to agree. The 3 item cap was stupid and pointless.

[@stefanlippeck6230]

I'm at 16:37 right now.... Isn't it possible that the "fill-the-bar"-objectives will take longer again when the alpha is finished? Those are probably things they only have to change a setting for and it will be just like before... or have they officially claimed they won't tinker with that anymore.

[@malletin]

+Stefan Lippeck considering that people complained about the fill the bar quests in WoD was too slow paced I am fairly sure they won't make it take longer.

[@stefanlippeck6230]

malletin well, if you think Blizzard always listents to the majority of complaints we would all onehit every boss in every instance and bascily be the only player per server to be able to do that... they would also have scrapped the facebook-game BS.

[@malletin]

Now you are just using hyperbole.. Blizzard clearly listened to the community when it came to the complaints about fill the bar quests otherwise they would still be along the lines of get 1-2% completion per mob kill instead of 10-15%, even if they reverted it back to how it was in WoD people would complain because it changed drasticly from Alpha to live and they would then revert it due to the backlash just like they nerfed the heroic dungeons in Cataclysm because people complained about the difficulty spike from Wotlk to Cataclysm.

[@facehugger8995]

What I want to know is will mythic dungeons+ be easier or more efficient than mythic raid difficulty. Mythic dungeon +10 drops better gear than mythic raid difficulty but how hard is it when compared to mythic raiding? Not to mention you can go up to +15 (910) ilvl. Also as the expansion progresses will the gear get any better or will it be the same ilvl the entire expansion?

[@thomasandreevensen215]

aviana's feather CD is 10minuttes, what are you talking about? 17:10

[@Ayayron_e3]

song name playing @ 4:19 ?? thanks

[@Ayayron_e3]

Heidegyr hehe

[@zwyda]

+aaron brooks Notaker - Infinite

[@MATiASSek]

+aaron brooks also, if anyone knows other songs...would be great ;)

[@zwyda]

+MATiASSek 7:40 PIXL - Sadbot; 12:10 Loosid - Clouds; 17:20 Tut Tut Child - Queen Of Your Heart; 20:10 Rogue - Drive Away; 4:19 and 20:50 Notaker - Infinite

[@OmegaSoypreme]

All this world content sounds fantastic to me! I love this kind of stuff! It was my bread and butter in MoP.

[@dkro9690]

Great vid. This is the first thing I've seen that's actually made me interested in coming back for Legion. Even mining has more content than WoD. Go figure.

[@illbean1337]

Sounds really promising, definetly looking forward to what Legion as a whole has to offer! One little thing that bugs me though about this video is the non-synced audio at the start. The audio comes slightly before u Mr. P. Otherwise i think that the vid was well cut and informative with a good script! Thanks for the video and have a thumbs up!

[@Secean]

Thanks for the vid! It reignited my hype for Legion :D

[@jyunga2118]

He discussed how world quests are spread out and how people will complain about the lack of flying. There's an item you get from Khadgar that teleports you to the nearest flight path. It has a 5 minute cooldown. I imagine that'll help a lot.

[@Danjerous781]

I think I can say this for a good majority of your fans preach. But lets all give wow a big ITS ABOUT TIME. They need to do things like this like they did in BC. Where they dont care what people will think. They just go outside the box and so something special. This is what made the game great. My only concern with this is how long can they make this stuff last. If the gear is only as good as heroic dungeons then people will do this until raids come out then they may stop. I guess we will see. But I am really happy they arent going to screw this up like wod. I personally hope if they can make legion really good wait until October or longer to make the game great and add more stuff. Like that stupid quote. If they make build an expack like they used to They will come. This can get a large group of players back and keep them playing.

[@Ibupr0fanity]

+Dan Avallone I agree with you, as soon as lfr/raids come out and the gear is better there, people will flock to it instead of world quests.

[@theoneandanger]

+Dr34m3rsDelight how about making lfr/worldquest/heroic gear same ilvl?

[@Ibupr0fanity]

+Pasketty I'm not sure, I guess it has always been a natural progression from questing to dungeons to lfr. What would be amazing is if quests were dynamically linked to the progression itself. They unlock or give different rewards depending on the players progression. You cleared the first wing in lfr, great here is a bunch of new quests / dailies / fill the bars / phasing area / mini bosses because you cleared it. So in effect, you would still do the world quests and all the other stuff as it is still relevant. But these are just ramblings and ideas.

[@theoneandanger]

+Dr34m3rsDelight Then everyone would have to do LFR to get new quests to do. :/ I don't think LFR gear should outmatch heroic gear actually, blizzard have said it's closer to a "hey I can't raid but I still want to see the cool bosses and see how the story goes down in here". So I don't think there should be any real gear improvements in there. Maybe the purple world quests should give what LFR does now and the blue ones give HC level gear then LFR is just raid tiers reskinned for LFR with no stats purely for cosmetic purposes. These are indeed just ramblings and ideas. Don't have alpha access so I can't leave actual feedback for blizz. :c FeelsBadMan

[@SterlingArcherify]

Preach, I'd like you to comment on something: Reforging. This was removed in WoD, an the artifact weapons do not need the system. However, if they maintain the WoD system of RNG gear drops, this could be a remedy to many of our current gearing headaches. It would also faciliatate players switching between "main" specs, which seems to be a thing in Legion, by simply switching the secondary stats on thier gear. Reforging an item wouldn't have to be gold based. It could cost a rune/sigil/macguffin, attained from world quests and such. Anyway, it was a thought.

[@UnderJoke]

As an altoholic who looves professions and has waaay too much time to play wow.. I.. Can't.. WAIT!! So excited : D

[@sophiek3349]

I definitely agree with the flying system. As a raider, it's going to be absolutely essential to get those world quests done quickly to move onto harder content and obtain those items. I think the Pathfinder system is a very nice compromise, but I do want to just get flying right away. Flying is not even that important, it just gets you around quicker!

[@MJay_]

Hope is somewhat restored. Thank you.

[@Tchernobog11]

Hey Preacher. Recently discovered your vids, like a lot of them. I had a question regarding crafting professions, not gathering. I heard other videos say that you don't need to be 700 to start on legion recipes to be able to craft? Or what is going on there, exactly? Because I preordered the collector's edition, I don't have a demon hunter yet. So when I roll one on the 30th, they'll have level 1 crafting. What happens at that point? Some catch up mechanic?

[@g_vulf]

It's nice to see that the WoW Team is taking stuff that works from their other games namely for Legion the implementation of World Quests (Bounties) and Greater Rifts (Scaling Mythic Dungeons) I've been playing the game since TBC and İ really think this will push the game in the right direction. My only gripe so far is the tanking changes but atleast DK and Druids look really nice! Hope to try Vengeance!!!

[@DarinRWagner]

Those are some awesome animations for that fury warrior. Great to hear professions are getting such love. I'm fine with no flying until endgame. I think it would be awesome if there was a rare world drop token that unlocked flying on low-level characters, though... just for trolling potential. Great video, Preach!

[@DR4C44N]

Good to hear they are listening to the community after a long ass time. Slowly getting hyped again

[@Loomx5]

How re-playable do you think world quests would be once you're in any form of raid gear? If the only gear rewards are dungeon level blues, surely once you are heroic raid geared you're going to be massively less inclined to go. Other than rep, what are the rewards like? Will this thing decent into a form of rep grind?

[@xersys]

Each world quest "fill the bar" gives about 6 to 12% per mob kill. The slowest one I did gave about 2% but that is because the quest wants you to collect items littered about the area, not grind mobs. The world quests are pretty good guys. The cache is implemented, but you have to fly back to an area and turn in the quest. The four world quests are part of a meta quest for a given faction. Once you complete those, you go to that faction and get your cache. Typically has gear and 200+ gold.

[@Domedar]

Can only judge when I do it myself. Unfortunately I got hyped for WoD by other people and that was disappointing.

[@xersys]

SCDomedar I don't blame you, The current system seems like it could get pretty mundane fairly quickly.

[@Domedar]

Exactly, that's why I know people like Legion so much RIGHT NOW. It's new game hype after waiting so long, but who knows it it's boring after a couple of months again?

[@xersys]

As is stands, I believe suramar is supposed to be that stopgap for keeping the game fresh, but as a long time Diablo 3 player, the world quest stuff will be fun for about two months then it'll get old fast.

[@xersys]

SCDomedar Another issue i'm seeing is, the way the game is set up currently in Legion, it is not alt friendly at all. You're going to pretty much be forced into playing one character for most of the expansion because there are almost no "catch up" mechanics in the game at all to boost up alts.

[@jossa90]

Well, I think it’s kinda cool that they have some lore related to the mining. Would make some sense that there would be something related to it. Overall after watching the video, I'm getting more keen on trying out the expansion for my self. Seems like they have done a lot of good work. Kind of interested in seeing how the profession changes affects gold making in legion, and how the supposedly increased gold cap will affect the in-game economy as well. I would also hope that they have more content patches throughout the expansion.

[@solitarynerdette]

love how level headed you are about all this drama that's provoking everyone else to chime in their nonsense views and opinions. The professions system looks great and will make me want to level more then just the basic needed items.

[@gundorethemighty]

preach gaming could you please tell me , 1 are the quest zones do they have a bunch of quest . 2 . the rares they have in the game are they going to be like the MOP- WOD rare were you kill them to get a items once per day .3 . roughly how long do you think it take to get to max lvl 3-4 hours or 1-2 days given the person never playied the beta not knowing the zones . ty

[@ieuandeakin6497]

the new profession system sounds absolutely amazing, i quite like what they're doing with legion in a whole.

[@Dauth312]

I'm super excited for everything about this expansion

[@SWRonark]

Preach, how viable are world quests to do in a healer spec? Are players expected to use a DPS spec, and how would that be hampered due to Artifact Power?

[@rokku87]

in the UK.. do you say the word, cache - "cash-a"?

[@TheJexy13]

+rokku87 No, not really sure why Preach pronounces it that way, but in general, we pronounce it like "cash"

[@grumpdogg213]

+rokku87 A Cash-Ayyyy full of Doombringers!!

[@rokku87]

D=

[@NoContextOasis]

+rokku87 I'm from Manchester like preach and I say Cash, he says a lot of things wrong so I apologise on the behalf of the Mancunians

[@mesocratic]

+rokku87 cache and cachet. different words (and used incorrectly here)

[@ibazulic]

We know Legion was a success :-)

[@crescentcity121]

Nice to see you finally getting the views your content deserves

[@toastie1139]

Did Nobbel think the name of his hunter through at all @ 17:01

[@BigIsaac91]

Are you planning on doing a healer ranking as well, like you did for the tanks?

[@realtalkz3930]

please don't sent me to booty bay I'm still hated with them damn you bloodsail admiral title !

[@xersys]

A large number of the class hall quests (possibly all) are going to send you to booty bay to buy an artifact book on the docks. I'd start working on that rep now.

[@victorholm2648]

You can get to friendly or honored by turning cloths in :)

[@twinkacast]

+Victor Holm You don't understand, I've been killing them since wrath.

[@victorholm2648]

+Elias Well friendly or even honored to exalted with the goblins is the worst, but from 0/36000 hated to exalted... I would kill my self rather than doing that grind.

[@twinkacast]

+Victor Holm I got a hat and a title, worth

[@Hetsig]

i'm curious now. i've watched a lot of "bashing-legion" videos lately and they bummed me out but this brought me back. it seems they have fixed some of the petpeevs i had in wod. will look on the other legion videos you have, keep it up!

[@WeirdViking]

One of the main reasons why WoW got as big as it did was the massive LORE it has had for decades before vanilla even launched. Even the most casual player liked or had heard of Arthas and Illidan and paladins and mages ect ect, and that draw people into the World of Warcraft. That's something that has been SEVERELY lacking ever since... Cataclysm perhaps. Once WotLK was done, it felt like Blizzard gave up on lore and activating people into the world and instead went with heavy reward hooks. I'm really loving how even simple mining will have huge lore tied to it and will activate people to participate in the world instead of sitting in a garrison, waiting for weekly rewards.

[@Kassen777]

+WeirdViking I felt Mop had a lot of lore. I am still sad they seem not to have had the very unique and lore ridden reputations of Mop. Lorewalkers, cloudriders, Operation Shieldwall, August Celestials, Klaxxi etc. they were unique and rewarded plenty of extra story. I think most people didn't like pandas and it was not explicitly tied into everything before. Same way we got the lazy panda stupidity even though that is complete bs

[@WeirdViking]

+Kassen777 I agree that there was some good lore in MoP, but imo huge problem was Blizzard failed in activating people to go and find it. The only real way they got some of the lore through was again through massive rewards like legendary chain, but the smaller things like what happened to anduin and all the lorewalker stuff... I honestly missed it all on my first time and only after seeing tons of interesting lore videos in youtube, i went back to mop and started to search them.

[@glcorreia]

Hello Preacher, do you think, it's absolutely necessary to have a gathering profession for the blood of sargeras, or can I keep alch/eng and farm the mats on an alt? Thanks

[@DietEwok]

it requires a gathering profession for Blood of Sargeras. It's also BoP. So I don't think you'll be able to mail them in between characters

[@garlicjrmade6409]

i started in bc, quit for good half way through wod, even came back for tannan stayed for about a week, haven't been back since like oct, just watching this makes me want to put a drill through my brain.

[@OlqdbplO]

you can buy a Brul-Totem in highmaul, near thundertotem. It is a toy which throws you about 40ft into the air on a 5 min cd. if you have a glider (e.g. the toy glider also obtainable in highmountain) it works really similar to avianas feather, even though it is neither as fast nor as height increasing as AF but is on a much lower cd.

[@arasoi8607]

I am really glad to hear that the professions are not gonna be boring , and that the world quests aren't some fill the bar bullshit like tanaan . Having said that i will tell you 1 thing preach , Legendary Ring.

[@Mg95a]

It all looks very good and a solid ground basis for the start of Legion, but as somebody said, we need that middle content patch. We need that "Ulduar" patch, but then perhaps a sprinkling of ToC. By a sprinkling, I mean have something where players can achieve cosmetic rewards, like how ToC was with the Silver Convenant Horse and the Silver Covenant Hippogryph. Have a 5 man dungeons being implemented along the Legion journey, like how WoTLK was. I mean Wrath introduced ToC, PoS, HoR and FoS. Barring ToC, the latter three were brilliant and very lore intensive.

[@rockwarlock9573]

Curious about enchanting and tailoring since the materials are on things you don't use a node for.

[@gscgold]

I have to say for me I am happy about the new system for professions, I am one of those who enjoys a games crafting and WoD killed it and not in a good way.. for sure a step in the right direction.

[@stefanljung7448]

this kind of get my hopes up. it already seem like you get varied things to do and most of it seem okej. i get that we can't have weekly or even monthly updates, but the thing is that you don't need that if the content is good... wod endgame did not have good enough world content... as long as they don't release a major patch that adds a vendor that pretty much slap you in the face and tells you "now you can buy missions to go and do the same zones you are already tired of pretty much as many times as you can handle". as long as they don't do this again i'm sure legion is going to be just fine.

[@Nicole-mg5nd]

+stefan ljung idk dreanor is cool, the questing, but end gae sucks ass wont lie

[@DecultureXIV]

Hey Preach, can you comment on double crafting professions? So far you could just buy the required mats in the ah after reaching max level. Will it delay you considerably if you e.g. just can't craft your alchemy potions at the beginning of the leveling phase?

[@antico1986]

One question Preacher, how long do you think will this end game content last until you max out everything there is to do. Because what you said about NOT gating progression via daily/weekly lockouts Blizzard opened the door to long grinding sessions where you consume everything so fast that you complete the game in a matter of weeks.

[@Soda-bd6yf]

16:52 Nobbel has come online XD

[@jfrandeli]

Do you think you can make time markers in the description when there is multiple content to look for?

[@Nemenon]

All these world quests seem amazing. I for one have no interest in doing them, however I do play on a large PvP server so I am excited for all the pvp to go down in these areas. At the start of WoD there were many large guilds (both alliance and horde) that fought for control of some zones in a sense, but that died down a bit ago so I'm hoping all of this good stuff sparks everything back up.

[@ThePangemin]

I just joined a TBC legacy server, and of course I dont have flying... I must agree it is anoying to not be able to fly, but the world PvP is so much fun thanks to it!

[@2ranirs]

Have they removed heirloom items yet? I'm not touching WoW before heirlooms are gone.

[@michaelfisher4408]

What's so bad about heirlooms?

[@2ranirs]

Michael Fisher They eliminate world PvP during leveling. And imbalance battleground PvP greatly. If you don't use heirlooms in battleground, you're a non-factor. Also they negate the entire loot hunt aspect, because any gear you'd ever find is worse than the heirloom gear. Also, heirlooms ruin the experience of doing dungeons, because you can literally solo a 5-man dungeon (within your level range) when using heirlooms. In a group you just run through everything and the game is never experienced the way it should be. And if you're not using heirlooms, you practically cannot queue up for a dungeon without being grouped with heirloom users. Heirlooms are the worst addition to WoW ever. People that use it are blind to how it ruins the game for themselves and everyone else as well.

[@Patagaton]

sucks for leveling but end game is where the game starts, and heirlooms suck end game

[@michaelfisher4408]

+2ranirs cool thanks for your response I haven't levelled in a while and it never really cross my mind :)

[@2ranirs]

Jack Young The experience was designed around level cap as well for vanilla, TBC, WotLK and Cataclysm. All of that content now sits unused and under-appreciated. I'm sure if you compared the file size of the sub-level cap content to the level cap content now, you'd find that it's way, way more than 2%. Now if by content you mean what is worthwhile doing, then it's just a shame that only a small fraction of the game world is worth exploring.

[@masterinsan0]

This world quest stuff sounds like it could easily keep me playing for a while... so long as the rewards are worth it. It draws a lot of inspiration of the bounties in D3: RoS, but the reason those are so repeatable is that they offer rewards (legendary crafting materials, unique legendaries like the Ring of Royal Grandeur) that you absolutely need. If the world quests stop offering rewards that you actually need during regular gameplay (throughout the whole expansion; not just in the beginning), no one will do them.

[@SirMalorak]

Also these random events are something WoW desperately needs. Something weird, mysterious and just... Cool. Really good call by Blizz.

[@rmmorang2134]

one way i can see making Suramar feel like your progressing to something would be to give a special artifact skin/color. i mean i didn't get any more "power" doing the green fire questline for my lock back in MOP. but the lore behind it and the green fire customization to my main made the 2 hours of fighting the last boss in that quest worth it (plus i like challenges. and felt accomplishment when i beat Karenthad) either way i'll do the end game quest because it's just another thing to entertain me in WoW that's not a gear grind part. it's something to do when i'm tired to dung and raids

[@LeetosLive]

Anyone have an idea as to what his comp. specs are? I'm looking to get similar quality with my new build and was wondering more or less what is required to mimic this footage.

[@DrakeMc85]

Not sure when I mixed up my information, but for some reason I thought order/class halls where shared by everyone in that class. Sitting alone in my personal hall will just be something to get use to. That it how I have understood it.

[@General12th]

+Drake McNorton No, I thought the same thing as you.

[@TargetSniper365]

You do share it with everyone of the same class

[@DrakeMc85]

+TargetSniper365 Oh okay, that is a relief. I probably just have not been paying attention with the Legion footage.

[@TargetSniper365]

+Drake McNorton lol yep players of both faction of that class on your server will share the hall and it will NOT include a bank or auction house or any profession things. Simply a place to work on your artifact and get quests and missions. Dalaran is the main hub.

[@greasemonkey3507]

Holding out on flying is the right thing to do. The fact that a quest is quick to do doesn't mean you should be able to do 8 of them in 10 minutes. This all comes back to a sense of instant gratification many players have. Blizzard has created that expectation and it looks like they are trying to correct it. Yes, a world quest might be hard to get to, you may need to learn the landscape and god forbid actually have to experience the journey instead of rushing and dive bombing with 5 other players every time something lights up on the map. Big criticism came over time on the fact that the World of Warcraft, the open world, felt empty. It even goes as far back as when LFG and LFR were introduced and players no longer had to congregate to find other adventurers to adventure with. Seeing a group of players riding past you on their way to a world event is just cool, you may decide to join the posse and go see whats going on. It simply makes the environment engaging and alive. +Preach Gaming I'm not sure if you are saying that you will be asking for flying yourself because you feel you need to be able to blast through these quests or if you simply think the greater player base will be up in arms and asking for it prematurely. From your review here sounded like you would be part of that movement?

[@MyHunta]

As a priest, the item "beneath surumar" (as i think it was described) was in the arcway.

[@owain75]

ok I have a question . if on my hunter I choose to level as a beast master hunter in pve. if I do pvp and change spec to survival will my artifact weapon change from range to melee? ??

[@johnconstantine8183]

To solve the flying issue; just put a gnome/goblin in those zones whom have been kicked out of the tinkerer guild/cartell for experimenting with new flying technology. They then offer you a few gold to test our their latest flying device. You get a rocket with some fuel and they only work in specific zones.

[@chrisp174]

Hey Preach, great vid. Question: You were saying that you were missing flying while doing world quests? Now with Blizzards stance on flying my question would be, could Guild Wars 2 waypoint system be a better thing then flight paths? Waypoints or portals could almost make sense in a legion expansion.

[@FugalBaboon]

I feel hope rising. The stuff you showed in this video looks very promising and worlds better that WoD!

[@seeker11]

11:26 Legends say that he is still trying to debug the mob to this very day....

[@Euroguy0]

But once you're like fully raided geared (hc) will world quests still matter? I mean tanaan was great with Baleful gear. But you got that gear so fast and in the end you didn't need to be in Tanaan. Wonder what they will do with World Quests when we get to that stage.

[@matthewwilliams1428]

Looking forward to endgame already. Two thumbs fresh, sir.

[@TheNova258]

So are the stuff you make better now? When i leveled leatherworking it sucked i never used the gear i made because i already had better gear mainly because it took for ever to get the mats for gear.

[@AndrewDucasse]

I still would rather have no flying, I really like the ground mount traveling through zones.

[@cryptking6283]

+Andrew Ducasse Then use your land mount and enjoy. Let the players who want to use their many flying mounts fly.

[@Walrand93]

What software are you using to record and edit with?

[@TheRemoteTTL]

im just curious about Booty bay in general... those chars who got hated with BB and gatgetzan factions cause they got title,,,, when its coming back and chance to bring up reputation back to normal or its ruined for entire rest of game existing time?

[@magnus2544]

+TheRemoteTTL it's always been possible to bring the reputation back. There's a bloodsail deserter outside booty bay that you can deliver stuff to for neutral goblin cities reputation, regardless of your standing. I think you give him cloth?

[@TheRemoteTTL]

Matengun Sang well, i left the wow agan, but thanks for tip. still to get back to exalted with BB it will be pain for farm, farm, kill kill killllll agan. useless way tbh. if there was more interesting way to gain, lose rep, it would be great. besides handing in items, killing stuff. :) oh yes, quests, but then agan, no high level quests...

[@magnus2544]

TheRemoteTTL you can buy shitloads of whatever he wants from the AH I guess. I think the quest is repeatable instantly, not daily

[@linanae1]

+Matengun Sang It is a massive pain because it gives you fuck all rep. Barely any at all per turn in. They need to either increase the rep recieved or implememt a better way

[@magnus2544]

linanae1 Keep in mind that the way you get hated by Booty Bay is through slaughtering thousands of its inhabitants... It makes sense for it to be a "massive pain" to get them to forgive you. It's also one of the few cases of weighty choices in WoW. If you decide to become a Bloodsail Admiral, that means Booty Bay is gonna hate you. If they make it easy to become friendly with BB again, that removes all the weight of the decision.

[@SealedC39]

Preach, is there some kind of limit for crafted gear like there was in draenor?

[@Laim01]

+SealedC39 Nope. Can wear as much crafted gear as you want.