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Predator 212 Go Kart Torque Converter Install

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Today we go over how to install a torque Converter on a Predator 212 engine. This will work for any side shaft go kart engine. Don't forget to like, comment and subscribe.
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@Miragegagt
@Miragegagt 6 жыл бұрын
Just bought one of these setups for predator 212 becuase the kids kept blowing up the old stock comet. Beware those sprockets, they have broken the keyway one in half more than once, so i upgraded it to an ebay replacement with keyway built in, eliminates that weak point. Thanks for the video
@bobsbarnworkshop
@bobsbarnworkshop 6 жыл бұрын
AH! I just bought a 9 tooth to replace the 10 for more torque, but I thought it looked thin and weak where the keyway is cut in... I did see the ones with the key molded in, makes sense! Good heads up!
@Bubbaomw
@Bubbaomw 3 ай бұрын
Link? Wdym?
@nate9009
@nate9009 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome video Redbeard. Love the Simplicity in which you explain things. It really helps. Thanks for being so informative. As an avid go kart enthusiast I look to your videos a lot to help me recondition and rebuild older karts and motors. Thanks for all.
@RedBeardsGarage
@RedBeardsGarage 6 жыл бұрын
No problem man and we have a lot more coming so stay tuned
@rdooski
@rdooski 5 жыл бұрын
Warning! The 4 bolts that are needed to mount it to the motor are 5/16 - 24. I didn't see it mentioned anywhere and spent a couple hours and trips to 3 different stores all while lugging the motor with me the entire time to find out.
@BubbaB43
@BubbaB43 4 жыл бұрын
Why didn't you just look at the engines manufacturer's spec sheet, Google your engines owners manual and shop maintenance guide PDF download, they tell you everything you would ever need to know.
@NateBuczacz
@NateBuczacz Жыл бұрын
​@@BubbaB43 While that is a good point, the poster's point is that the info in the video is wrong on the bolt specs.
@williambrown6721
@williambrown6721 5 жыл бұрын
I just ordered that same kit red beard.... what I like about your videos you show everyone step by step how to install everything you do.... when people are watching you put what ever it may be together, you don't need instructions....... thanks my brother!!!
@bigataoolimpio3900
@bigataoolimpio3900 Жыл бұрын
por que a minha tá quebrando a correia
@shawnmcintyre4773
@shawnmcintyre4773 8 жыл бұрын
Bought mine at Go PowerSports , man what a huge difference it made compared to a centrifugal clutch ! Thanks for sharing
@RedBeardsGarage
@RedBeardsGarage 8 жыл бұрын
No problem man. I think i like a normal clutch a lot better on the road but it is a must have for off road. I get a lot higher top end with a standard clutch.
@DSB420
@DSB420 2 жыл бұрын
I had to cut off the oil cap top wings was keeping me stuck out a tiny bit but deff noticed it lol thanks rgb for teaching me almost everything I know about 212 predator!! Went from Not knowing anything about it to being pretty comfortable with doing anything on it thanks again have a blessed day
@Picklejam08
@Picklejam08 2 жыл бұрын
Several have made inaccurate comments about problems with the front bolt (thread and length). I bought this same exact clutch ( Comet 30) from gopowersports last year, used the same bolt here in this video, and the front bolt works perfectly with my Predator Hemi 212 from Harbor Freight. I would know if the threads didn’t match… I’ve been turning a wrench for 45 years. You guys are misinformed. Amateur hour & armchair know-it-all’s.
@homesteadonomics
@homesteadonomics 6 жыл бұрын
Very helpful! Working on a kart project myself and you made this part very simple to understand👍🏻😀
@RedBeardsGarage
@RedBeardsGarage 6 жыл бұрын
Glad we could help
@tomwarren5258
@tomwarren5258 3 жыл бұрын
So the bolts that are supplied or actually the ones that work on it I same one video before that they said you had to switch him out with some other kind because the threads weren't the same
@timothy3727
@timothy3727 6 жыл бұрын
When you mount the clutch to the crankshaft that is not a 10mm bolt. It is a M1.25 metric bolt which should not be used because the predator crankshaft comes tapped for 5/16" 24 (fine thread) bolt
@timnell9423
@timnell9423 4 жыл бұрын
Tim othy 5/16 24 = m8x 1.25
@skylark4901
@skylark4901 2 жыл бұрын
@@timnell9423 Not true.
@jimbob78ify
@jimbob78ify 6 жыл бұрын
Random I know: Thank you for putting your hand behind the parts. God dang that’s helpful. Wish more people did that.
@Lilly-ym3do
@Lilly-ym3do Жыл бұрын
As😊 da a😊a😮😊😊😊
@ryanmaile6361
@ryanmaile6361 4 жыл бұрын
Love the video a have a question. Can you put the sprocket on the back side of the torque converter? If you can, I’m assuming I’ll have to cut the key provided?
@grumpysteelman
@grumpysteelman 3 жыл бұрын
Yes
@bobsbarnworkshop
@bobsbarnworkshop 6 жыл бұрын
Read Beard... I just bought a used Baja Warrior and it has a Preditor 212 and CVT but the problem I have is the two pulleys are about 1/4" out of alignment, the drive pulley is too far in... I removed the washers on the rear shaft until the chain hits the backing plate. I suppose I need to make a front spacer to fit on... another problem I created is that I stripped the threads in the center of the engine drive shaft, so I'm going to have to drill it deeper , tap it and get a longer bolt to hold the drive clutch on... so beware!
@williamcobb106
@williamcobb106 8 жыл бұрын
If you install the washer on the rear shaft before installing the drive sprocket it moves the sprocket too close to the rivets in the main plate and when a #40 chain is installed the rivets in the chain....especially for the master link.. rub against the rivets in the main plate. The drive sprocket for the chain needs to be installed first and then the washer after that. It then allows enough space for the chain to clear the rivets. I discovered this after the installation and had to disassemble the rear shaft and reverse the order....sprocket first and then washer afterwards. This was on a Predator engine, but I had the same problem with a similar engine with electric start. I also noticed that the inward bevel in the front keyed square drive sleeve doesn't allow very much engagement with the crankshaft keyway when using both the washer and the spacer. I was tempted to mill it down a bit to get more key engagement, but you didn't and seem to have no trouble with it, but there's not a lot of keyway there driving the outer front belt pulley. I'd estimate that there is only about 3/8" key engagement the way it is designed. Is this something to be concerned with? Thanks for any help with this!
@RedBeardsGarage
@RedBeardsGarage 8 жыл бұрын
+William Cobb I actually noticed this after I installed it but I just switched it around like you was stating thanks for the comment though man and I don't think the key way is a problem at least I've never had a problem with it
@williamcobb106
@williamcobb106 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for verifying that I wasn't nuts or had a different setup than yours! Great video by the way. I did go ahead and leave the square driver as is and you are correct....the thing goes like a bat out of hell with no issues except for overly sensitive steering since it's not rack and pinion. The engine is a Duro Max electric start that I pulled the governor from and installed a Mikuni carb on it. Should have left the thing stock.... I can't let the neighborhood kids drive this now...it's too darned fast! I need to find a small rack and pinion steering system for it as well...it's all over the road with the cheap go kart steering that it has. Everything else is great though and I appreciate the video you made!
@tonyash8080
@tonyash8080 5 жыл бұрын
I’m installing on a HF predator 212, the bolts included were not correct. I needed 5/16-24 SAE.
@jantonkin1014
@jantonkin1014 3 жыл бұрын
I had the same problem
@tomwarren5258
@tomwarren5258 3 жыл бұрын
What bolt did you use for the crankshaft on the torque converter
@mgate01
@mgate01 2 жыл бұрын
The bolts on predator engine are 5/16-24 for the crank bolt and mounting plate bolts also
@leebarker539
@leebarker539 2 жыл бұрын
Great editing and clear, concise descriptions. I have a correction, which may have been made somewhere down in the comments. That shaft is tapped for a 5/16-24 bolt. The metric bolt that comes with the clutch is not only the wrong thread, but also too short. Feel free to double check me on this; there are lots of videos and discussions about this TAV on the Predator. I made this mistake and fixed it by making a tap out of a 5/16-24 grade 8 bolt to restore the threads. I used a grade 5 2 1/2" bolt which gives good purchase in the shaft with still enough length for a lockwasher and flat washer under the head.
@skylark4901
@skylark4901 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly, 5/16-24, and the one supplied is too short, I'm surprised (not really) they haven't supplied a longer bolt by now. 👍
@Picklejam08
@Picklejam08 2 жыл бұрын
I bought this same exact clutch ( Comet 30) from gopowersports and the bolt works perfectly with my Predator Hemi 212. I would know if the threads didn’t match… I’ve been turning a wrench for 45 years. You guys are misinformed.
@kenreed6181
@kenreed6181 3 жыл бұрын
Gotta say your vids really help when a problem comes up. Best youtube small engine help I have seen. My only problem is I have the hemi predator and the bolt holes are all fine thread while all the bolts in the kit are coarse thread. lol. I guess thats why they have hardware stores.
@johnwallace2100
@johnwallace2100 5 жыл бұрын
U the man red beard..exsplains everything..no hesitation speaking.very proffesinal.. I perfer u if i need info...i just watched for the hek of it..i did learn one thng.dnt hamer on year puly.because ofvser clip on otherside .good good info..see.professinal. U the man.
@manoffaith2501
@manoffaith2501 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent instructional video. Just used it to install the same torque converter on my predator 212. Red Beard thanks for your help.
@RedBeardsGarage
@RedBeardsGarage 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching
@Sms8668
@Sms8668 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome Videos. Just did this to my predator 420 and the Bike Fly’s. It’s a Nitro 44 frame. Now I have to add Nitrous next !!! Had no clue how to install until your video. Thank God for You Tube !!!!!! Thanks Bud !!!!!!!
@RedBeardsGarage
@RedBeardsGarage 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching man
@javascriptmikecoder5790
@javascriptmikecoder5790 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I took mine apart and needed a reminder how it went back together, your video was perfect!
@darrellshields8106
@darrellshields8106 3 жыл бұрын
That was a lot of help. I ordered the same kit n after watching this video see that I put my kit on all half ass backwards. Thanks again. Great video.
@mountainmike1685
@mountainmike1685 4 жыл бұрын
So it doesn't matter if the front flat pulley lines up with the rear flat pulley does it because on mine, to line them up makes the engine shaft too short. Thanks for anybody's comments
@Hateradecampaign
@Hateradecampaign 2 жыл бұрын
Somebody may have asked this, and if so I apologize: I have a kit 196 with a shaft welded on the back. I assume I just remove the rear pulley from the plate and put on frame shaft correct? Love your videos thank you for what you do!
@kikegoleador315
@kikegoleador315 7 жыл бұрын
I have a similar torque converter but it doesn't disengage when idling...I made sure that the belt is aligned and that it is facing the right way but still no luck...any ideas on why this is happening?
@discipleofchrist5217
@discipleofchrist5217 7 жыл бұрын
I did mine yesterday and the bolt that came with it for the crsnk pully was way to short so when i put the impacy on it it tore the crsnk up ni guess that just gives me a reason to buy a new one. So check your bolt and make sure it gonna grab more than 3 threads
@RedBeardsGarage
@RedBeardsGarage 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah I have had to buy longer bolts for mine
@codylegodude659
@codylegodude659 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks the guy who sent it to me on eBay didn’t send instructions. This helps a lot thank you!!!!
@leowaters5779
@leowaters5779 4 ай бұрын
Speaking from experience, he probably didn’t receive instructions either when he bought it new😂
@ChrisfromKeyfarm
@ChrisfromKeyfarm 5 жыл бұрын
I'm converting a 1990 EZ-GO to gas, just got my torque converter today, thanks for the video.
@coleswaggins
@coleswaggins 5 жыл бұрын
Keyfarm what are you using for a motor?
@ChrisfromKeyfarm
@ChrisfromKeyfarm 5 жыл бұрын
@@coleswaggins first I'm using the predator 212cc from harbor freight to get it rolling, eventually I will put that engine on my tiller and upgrade to the predator 420cc. Everything will remain the same, except I'll have to drill new mounting holes in the engine plate. Everything on the rear shaft will be strong for either engine
@coleswaggins
@coleswaggins 5 жыл бұрын
Keyfarm I just got a Facebook gc160/190 (?) today for fifty bucks! I have to look up the serial number for it. Gonna fab up a motor mount and rear suspension for it soon. It’s going on a Honda spree.
@coleswaggins
@coleswaggins 5 жыл бұрын
It’s a Honda
@ChrisfromKeyfarm
@ChrisfromKeyfarm 5 жыл бұрын
@@coleswaggins yea, I think they call the predator engine a Honda clone
@nextlvlroy
@nextlvlroy 5 ай бұрын
Thank you for the guide. Will follow this to a T when I receive my torque converter. Random question - which length of 5/16-24 bolts do I need to mount my predator to my Go-Kart? Thank you.
@ericmiller9893
@ericmiller9893 5 жыл бұрын
was a bit worried about installing torque converter on my 212 predator (there aren't instructions) but feel confident now -- thanks bruddah!
@gierhedd75
@gierhedd75 7 жыл бұрын
Outstanding step-by-step instructions!
@RedBeardsGarage
@RedBeardsGarage 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks man. I try to do them the best I can.
@billybones58
@billybones58 5 жыл бұрын
Agreed, big man, since most of these sets do not come with detailed instructions. Keep building boys.
@terpin83
@terpin83 2 ай бұрын
Pretty sure the key washer you put on the first pully goes on the outside of the sprocket and the sprocket to the bearing
@boisebadboy93
@boisebadboy93 7 жыл бұрын
Hi RedBeard great video. Used it to install a new $65 TC off eBay for the 212. However, after I installed it, the go-kart vibrated REALLY bad and didn't accelerate worth dookie. I've done engine swap before and such, so I made sure everything was aligned properly, bolted on tight, chain had just a little slack, belt clutch on drive shaft tight (had to use shaft spacer to align clutch with jackshaft), even made sure the tires were equally inflated, what could be the problem!? It didn't vibrate before the TC install
@RedBeardsGarage
@RedBeardsGarage 7 жыл бұрын
+boisebadboy93 I really have no clue what it could be. It's hard to diagnose something over the internet
@mr.bailey3971
@mr.bailey3971 6 жыл бұрын
Love your videos! As a novice I've learned so much from your vids. I will post vids of the drift trike with torque converter I am building.
@RedBeardsGarage
@RedBeardsGarage 6 жыл бұрын
Sweet man thanks for watching
@genesmith2355
@genesmith2355 5 жыл бұрын
That's what I'm building to a drift trike it's a chopper really cool
@giofang5618
@giofang5618 Ай бұрын
I heard that metal bushing wears quick and can cause problems is it better to just keep it off
@zachhuckabee7108
@zachhuckabee7108 5 жыл бұрын
Do you have a video of an electric start install on a hemi 212 predator engine and information on where to get a starter kit???
@TheKingjames57
@TheKingjames57 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this video. I'm very new to all of this and I just got me a dingo by manco. Couldn't get enough torque with the amazon clutch so I decided to get me a torque converter.
@ReReCups
@ReReCups 3 жыл бұрын
nah man, I'd reckon you were getting too much torque with the amazon clutch, too much torque can lead to slower speeds.
@TheKingjames57
@TheKingjames57 3 жыл бұрын
@@ReReCups well thats kinda the problem, I never got up to any speed. Couldn't get the thing going unless ot was downhill.
@ReReCups
@ReReCups 3 жыл бұрын
mmhm.
@genesmith2355
@genesmith2355 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks red beard . Got a rare 3 wheeled chopper go cart project. You helped a lot.
@RhiceyHarierar
@RhiceyHarierar Жыл бұрын
Just want yo say thank you from the bottom of my heart for all your information on these builds. It has helped me fly by things tremendously ❤ love you big ol red beard dewd
@RedBeardsGarage
@RedBeardsGarage Жыл бұрын
Glad to help
@HondaRue
@HondaRue 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks a bunch... the instructions that came with the torque converter are a bit outdated so i had to Google. I heard I was going to have to relearn how to ride my doodle bug after this due to the engine braking but the engagement of the belt was the biggest surprise. Had to give it throttle and wait a second for it to engage. I have a hole in my knee at the moment due to Whiskey Throttle... be ware. Otherwise this is awesome
@hayselaster8636
@hayselaster8636 6 жыл бұрын
Where did you get that exhaust???
@brandonsmisek
@brandonsmisek 6 жыл бұрын
the go power sport page has many to choose from. what one works on the preditor 212.
@RedBeardsGarage
@RedBeardsGarage 6 жыл бұрын
30 series kit
@brandonsmisek
@brandonsmisek 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you. mine only came with one sprocket, how can i tell which chain to buy. this one is 10 tooth and a quarter inch wide. Thanks. You rock.
@flip_flop_farmer
@flip_flop_farmer 4 жыл бұрын
thanks man i installed the torque converter ty for the video its so much better no chain grinding and higher speeds without engine rpms being high better for the engine
@stickymolasses8358
@stickymolasses8358 Жыл бұрын
I was told you don’t want to over tighten the bolts on either pulley. You didn’t mention that, was it just someone thinking they know best or is there actually something to that?
@RattyFlyer
@RattyFlyer Жыл бұрын
Good idea to put lock tite or similar on all fasteners.
@finnfamilyfun1310
@finnfamilyfun1310 4 жыл бұрын
That motor was obviously upgraded. If the torque converter is for a 6.5 horsepower motor how did it do for you 12, maybe 10 horsepower motor?
@paulmoritz2240
@paulmoritz2240 6 жыл бұрын
Yet again red beard! You make all of your tutorials nice and simple! It will make my installation of my torque converter cake.
@ecotrea
@ecotrea 5 жыл бұрын
Perfect video. I got my gokart running thanks to Red Beard!
@zx.chicken
@zx.chicken 2 жыл бұрын
Couldn't have asked for a better video
@robkovach7130
@robkovach7130 7 жыл бұрын
You're the man Red Beard keep the videos coming
@brandonbogle8856
@brandonbogle8856 3 жыл бұрын
What is the length of the clutch bolt?
@ishniana
@ishniana 7 жыл бұрын
RedBeard...you the freaking man. Because of this video I was able to figure out what I had misplaced!
@synshenron798
@synshenron798 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah my buddy and I had trouble with the first pulley and that stupid 10mm bolt. It would turn the whole rotating assembly
@mirkoschaper2846
@mirkoschaper2846 7 жыл бұрын
I got the same torque converter and everything fits very well, but if i speed up its sounds very Bad and the spring vibrate hardly on the engin side . I think its because of the spring on the driven side. Its looks like its made for the other direction. My Engine is turning against the clock. Have tourque converters a direction ? Or they work booth ways ? Edit: sorry for my german english
@RedBeardsGarage
@RedBeardsGarage 7 жыл бұрын
Are you sure you seated the outside bell on the flat sides of the inner cog?
@tommyhajimoto6968
@tommyhajimoto6968 8 ай бұрын
Hey Red Beard, your knowledgeable about these things I got a question? Can a torque converter go bad enough to stop an engine? I noticed it's been happening lately and when I try to restart it the wheel moves with the pull string. If I roll the bike a little bit it breaks loose and I can start the motor back up. Could it be one of these pulleys going bad or getting stuck?
@kylancook3477
@kylancook3477 2 жыл бұрын
Perfect, exactly what I needed, only question on mine tho, mine interferes with the exhaust bolt when using the middle bolt hole, so I had to use the edge hole. Is that normal?
@me-ho6wp
@me-ho6wp Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video, just used it to help me install my torque converter on my 224 predator. Great tips, keep it up 🤙🏼🔧🪛🔩⚙️
@abrahamvalencia6896
@abrahamvalencia6896 6 ай бұрын
Hey bro, I got a quick question since I am building my first gokart. Where would the clutch go after you put in the converter or where is the sprocket for the chain?
@IPCRo
@IPCRo Жыл бұрын
Got a problem. In my country I can't get a predator engine but similar. The problem is the jackshaft dismeter is either 18mm or 20 mm. Do you think the cvt kit will fit in one of them
@chaosofpeace5150
@chaosofpeace5150 4 жыл бұрын
Don't know if you'll be able to answer this but I have a dilemma. I'm converting my 40 Series TC into a jackshaft but I need the drive sprocket mounted on the OPPOSITE (back/inside) side of the main plate on the rear shaft. Im simply using a centrifugal clutch on the crank, chained to the jackshaft, and from there to the rear axle. The final sprocket is fixed in place on said axle. I can not find a video or explanation of what shaft/bearings I need to make this work and whether or not I NEED a pillow block bearing for extra jackshaft support. Love your videos and happy Veteran's Day. {Mounting a Honda gx340 on a chinese quad for a ride to work because its getting cold out}
@chaosofpeace5150
@chaosofpeace5150 4 жыл бұрын
Abridged version: what dimensions of keyed shaft do I need or where could I find one?
@phonymontana4254
@phonymontana4254 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks red! Nibody gives the full step by step like u do!
@bwxmoto
@bwxmoto 7 жыл бұрын
I'm trying to figure out what size and thread the bolts I need are to mount a TAV2 to a new Hemi head Predator 212. Also the bolt size / thread for the output shaft. My torque converter came with all the wrong size.
@RedBeardsGarage
@RedBeardsGarage 7 жыл бұрын
+BWX I'll have to look and see what size they are. Next time order from go power sports and you won't have that problem. Lol.
@bwxmoto
@bwxmoto 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah I guess but I don't think a few bolts are worth $74 extra which is more than double the clone price. If their prices were more competitive I would definitely support them with my $$. I think the clutch mounting bolts are 10mm but not sure about thread pitch.
@bwxmoto
@bwxmoto 7 жыл бұрын
For anyone reading this 10 years from now or something: I did some more research- I think the bolts you need are 4 x 5/16 24 thread pitch 1" - To mount plate to engine. 1 x 5/16 24 thread pitch @ 1 3/4" - for mounting the drive pulley to the output shaft. Then you need to raise engine up about 3/4in to an inch to clear drive pulley above frame (still need to cut plate though), so you need longer engine mounting bolts too.
@giovannichavez455
@giovannichavez455 8 жыл бұрын
Im having problems installing mine i did everything you did exactly but when i turn on my engine the belt speed keeps spinning without me even pressing the throttle so how can i make it stop ? The belt speed should only spin when the gas pedal is pressed right ?
@RedBeardsGarage
@RedBeardsGarage 8 жыл бұрын
No the belt can spin at idle as long as the go kart isn't trying to take off. If it isn't then your good to go.
@jonathanwise4252
@jonathanwise4252 7 жыл бұрын
Will you do video of changing driven red spring setting to achieve higher tourqe setting.for hill climbing
@RedBeardsGarage
@RedBeardsGarage 7 жыл бұрын
+Jonathan wise yeah I will get the parts in and make one
@RockieRoadz
@RockieRoadz 4 жыл бұрын
Any idea why my belt doesn't spin? Installed correctly but belt will not rotate with torque converter that is properly spinning, belt has no grip. I don't get it. Thanks for any advice!
@armandovalencia9417
@armandovalencia9417 3 жыл бұрын
I am planning to build a 4X4 Go Kart but I don't know where to get the parts I need for 4wheel drive go kart.
@datnis916
@datnis916 2 жыл бұрын
Can you run the sprocket on the outside of the pully. I'm having clearance problems on my manco
@terryw.885
@terryw.885 5 жыл бұрын
I did the measurements from center of Pully and I'm still coming up wrong I think cause I can squeeze the belt and it touches together the belt will work but it slips a lot on the pulley when I'm driving it
@MikePesca315
@MikePesca315 Жыл бұрын
I'm trying put the ghost predator on my ct100u frame but mounting screws aren't long enough .. what should I do
@adamfreeman3188
@adamfreeman3188 5 жыл бұрын
Im Wondering if a stock CVT transmission off a Honda ruckus or any scooter will do the same thing. I'm trying to find a scooter shell that I can throw my already built 212cc in. As of right now I have a centrifugal clutch and 420 chain set up on my mini bike. It seems as though most scooters use the CVT not only as a transmission but also as a swing arm. My goal is to have a "sleeper" scooter that I register as a 50cc.
@farmlifeflorida6462
@farmlifeflorida6462 5 жыл бұрын
Can I run the torque converter clutch without that brass ring
@RedBeardsGarage
@RedBeardsGarage 5 жыл бұрын
It will want to take off on you at idle
@farmlifeflorida6462
@farmlifeflorida6462 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@farmlifeflorida6462
@farmlifeflorida6462 5 жыл бұрын
Your channel has helped me out a lot I really appreciate what you do. My son really enjoys the manco silver fox wouldn’t be running without you thank again.
@farmlifeflorida6462
@farmlifeflorida6462 5 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate the reply my boys and I have been able to get out manco silverfox running just by watching we appreciate what you do thanks again
@deputydillhole
@deputydillhole 5 жыл бұрын
It should be fine without the ring....I bought two Monster Moto 212 mini bikes and the knock off torque converters that came with both had immediate problems with the brass rings getting hung up...I took the rings off both and haven't had issues since...if the belt is really tight it will want to move on idle, however having no ring will create some slack if the belt fits properly and after the belt stretches with a couple rides it will create more space...unless you plan on continuously idling for extremely long periods of time it's not going to affect anything
@davidforesr.8045
@davidforesr.8045 2 жыл бұрын
Just replaced TC as in this video (enjoyed it BTW) and I have a question...Why is the belt so hard to place over the brass slip ring? The belt is a 669, but after locking everything into position, it is so tight my wheels keep turning. No idle. Thanks.
@Str8sixfan
@Str8sixfan 6 жыл бұрын
Perfect. I plan on doing this for my 5hp briggs flattie this weekend. This is super helpful.
@RedBeardsGarage
@RedBeardsGarage 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching
@timothy3727
@timothy3727 6 жыл бұрын
Don't use the metric bolt
@Str8sixfan
@Str8sixfan 6 жыл бұрын
Yea, I was previously warned
@Str8sixfan
@Str8sixfan 6 жыл бұрын
Ok, so I never ended up putting it on all the way when I made this original comment, but...just had to rewatch to put it on today, thanks RB!
@VastWalker
@VastWalker 7 жыл бұрын
At 4:07 I noticed you only had a 1/2 in" of shaft to put on the last part of the clutch. Is that going to be ok? I bought a new motor for my go cart. My old motor has about an inch more of shaft than the new one. I am going to have mount it the same way you did on that last half inch of shaft.
@RedBeardsGarage
@RedBeardsGarage 7 жыл бұрын
It always worked good for me
@cmizer9
@cmizer9 6 жыл бұрын
What are the threads & bolt size for the "10mm" bolts to mount the torque converter? The supplied ones with mine only thread in a half turn or so before they feel like they are going to strip. Thanks!
@cmizer9
@cmizer9 6 жыл бұрын
Can anyone confirm 4x5/16-24UNF as per the user 212cc manual?
@DarkLinkAD
@DarkLinkAD 6 жыл бұрын
As per the internet forums *"I can confirm the Predator 212cc uses 5/16 - 24 for the crank shaft and the 4 block mounting holes, the Predator 346cc and 420cc use 3/8" - 24 for cranks and 5/16" - 24 for the block mounting holes"*
@nutz4all71
@nutz4all71 7 жыл бұрын
Truly an excellent and informative video! Clear and concise instructions, many thanks! I also subscribed. Happy New Year RB!
@miltondejesus2076
@miltondejesus2076 7 жыл бұрын
Is there a better way to get the shaft from turning when trying to crank down the main bolt??
@RedBeardsGarage
@RedBeardsGarage 7 жыл бұрын
Just use an impact is the best way.
@farmlifeflorida6462
@farmlifeflorida6462 5 жыл бұрын
So I burned up my belt is that due to the brass ring? Or is that my son road it for two hours straight? You have been very helpful thank you
@ntj030885
@ntj030885 4 жыл бұрын
Can I buy 30s torque converter parts and mount the driver to the engine and the driven to a jack shaft off of a forward reverse gearbox that sits further back and not have a backplate and use a longer belt? I’m trying to eliminate going from belt to chain to gearbox and just go belt to gearbox. Thanks for your time in advance.
@shaneshagrayson3616
@shaneshagrayson3616 7 жыл бұрын
i have the same motor for my ho kart it comes on but everytime i give it gas it cuts off... it has gas and oil what am i doing wrong
@RedBeardsGarage
@RedBeardsGarage 7 жыл бұрын
+Shanesha Grayson it's always hard to troubleshoot something over the Internet. First off have you did any performance mods to it?
@HOGSIDESJTV14BOSSHOGRECORDS
@HOGSIDESJTV14BOSSHOGRECORDS 7 жыл бұрын
Shanesha Grayson did u disconnect the oil switch wire.it might be to full.its that sensor on the front with the two wires.
@target1172
@target1172 6 жыл бұрын
gotta give it a minute or two to warm up, then switch it to run
@ap.gxnxsxs
@ap.gxnxsxs 6 жыл бұрын
HOGSIDE SJ T.V. Thank you so much bro this fixed my problem, I'm so pumped to drive it again!
@serhhupper2236
@serhhupper2236 5 жыл бұрын
Just dump and clean fuel bowl
@nathanfryer3538
@nathanfryer3538 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks RB...you did that demo very seamlessly.
@levibrousseau7608
@levibrousseau7608 4 жыл бұрын
Can you go in reverse with the torque converter? If not, can you have a reverse kit and the torque converter together?
@Kettenhund75
@Kettenhund75 3 жыл бұрын
Mr. Beard Sir, what do those of us unfortunate enough to have a 196cc clone do for the crank bolt? The crank is externally threaded. I have seen a couple of "solutions" on youtube, but nothing I was really happy with.
@nealwalther5023
@nealwalther5023 2 жыл бұрын
Where can I order individual parts for a type 30 torque converter. Just got a new one and I have a spacer missing .
@SCOOTERIST213
@SCOOTERIST213 3 ай бұрын
Can you put the small sprocket on the other side of the rear (driven) pulley? @2:19
@papichulo2484
@papichulo2484 2 жыл бұрын
I bought a kt196,with a TC….but it didn’t have the backplate installed.No I need it? Or when can I get just the backplate?
@CountZarko1992
@CountZarko1992 5 жыл бұрын
This is kinda off the subject to the video but I'm trying to install headlights on a go kart using the same 212 predator and I was wondering if you could explain it to me or maybe post a video of it to kindly make it easier to understand thanks! Love the projects you do and am a happy subscriber!
@JacobNegRay
@JacobNegRay 6 жыл бұрын
Couldn't ask for a more detailed video, great job and thank you!!!
@fernandofelix5258
@fernandofelix5258 Жыл бұрын
what’s better for big guys a torque converter or a clutch ??
@jeffnations6649
@jeffnations6649 3 жыл бұрын
Helpful, but now I have a problem with holes lining up and the engine needs to be raised up an inch because the torque converter is hitting the frame and the brakes. Plus the design is bad, you should be able to put spacers behind the shaft of the plate so you don't have to cut your oil plug.
@danielnunez3518
@danielnunez3518 Жыл бұрын
What sized bolts do I need to mount the thing to a predator 224? The ones that came with mine are a different thread. Would they be the same thread as a 212?
@scottyw8502
@scottyw8502 7 жыл бұрын
hey Redbeard I have a question I have the maxpower 455 35c 12T max torque clutch...my question is if I take that out and replace it with a torque converter is there any difference in speed..top end especially...thanks
@RedBeardsGarage
@RedBeardsGarage 7 жыл бұрын
+scotty w we gained top end when upgrading to the CVT from a clutch. The torque form the CVT alone is worth it.
@Si_Hano
@Si_Hano 7 жыл бұрын
been watching your vids...nice job. can the sprocket you used be changed to something else? i think u used a 10t.
@RedBeardsGarage
@RedBeardsGarage 7 жыл бұрын
+Si Hano yeah you can buy different sizes
@randomking2261
@randomking2261 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you go power sports and red beard 🚁⚓️🚁🚤🚉💺🚁🚢
@mag2395
@mag2395 5 жыл бұрын
Would it be possible to put this together with the sprocket on the outside of the rear pulley? Going from a centrifugal clutch to this having fitment issues because it sets the chain back towards the engine more.
@JustinsGarage
@JustinsGarage 5 жыл бұрын
I am looking into picking up one of these, my only problem is that I have a 428 sprocket and chain for my bike and I can’t easily change to one either the 420 or #30 chain/ sprocket. Are the sprockets that come with with the torque converter replaceable with different sizes?
@fearceace9475
@fearceace9475 7 жыл бұрын
I'm looking into using a rotax 600 engine from a snowmobile for a dune buggy. Would the same process be the same for that?
@RedBeardsGarage
@RedBeardsGarage 7 жыл бұрын
The rotax engines usually have cvts on them
@mbrrideitlikeyoustoleit8436
@mbrrideitlikeyoustoleit8436 7 жыл бұрын
my copper bushing broke how important is it you said it's just for not wearing out the belt
@RedBeardsGarage
@RedBeardsGarage 7 жыл бұрын
+motor breath I would replace it. Your belts will last longer. There only a few dollars
@DarkLinkAD
@DarkLinkAD 6 жыл бұрын
Can you grease them?
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