Track vs Channel Stem Exports in Studio One

Have you ever wondered what the difference between a Track and Channel Stem Export is? Then this video is for you.
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[@beatweezl]

It's incredible every time Gregor asks a question and I answer it, he actually hears me! How does he do that!?

[@itsmenishant]

you know PreSonus just don't stop listening to your customers aka producers/singers/engineers....etc. we're so grateful to have you guys listening to our comments and inculcating them into the studio one ❤❤🧡🧡

[@Metalpazallteway]

Studio One is the best!! Cheers...

[@timothymcmahon]

Gregor. I just want to say how awesome you are at your profession. The clarity of your videos is incredible. Please keep doing what you are doing. If you ever want to collaborate, let me know!

[@nedim_guitar]

This is great! I don't use this on a daily basis, but I understand it much better now!

[@judsoncrane1496]

This is great, but what would make it more complete is if FOLDERS were included in the track export list so we could group tracks together without going down a complex routing rabbit hole. The solo-bounce method of exporting stems (that often include more than one track per stem) is still king, and allowing folders as track export options would finally allow this to be a completely automated process without doing careful planning of unique fx sends and such which is required when exporting bus groups as stems. Hope to see this addition in an eventual update!

[@deuelmusic]

Yes this is exactly what i was thinking too. instead im having to do separate mixdowns for everything. I hope to see this in an update as well.

[@Barncore]

Yeah, this is the main problem with exporting stems. If you wanna export several deliverables for a client, and say you wanna send an instrumental, an acapella, and a stage version (instrumental with backup vocals but no lead vocals) you can't capture the entire signal flow of grouped elements with exporting tracks or channels (cos "export channel" doesn't include the buss(es) that are AFTER the bus you're exporting, and the "export track" method doesn't have busses/folders to choose from (which would solve it)... so you end having to do several entire mixdowns with various stuff muted or soloed. And you gotta sit and wait for to finish so you can begin the next export. It's tedious. Another way Presonus could fix it is to add an "export queue" feature, like what Reaper has

[@akshaygurav9855]

​@@Barncoreexactly. The way cubase has is also very good . It has option to through master fx also . And it makes cue for rendering . I would definitely request that feature from presonus .

[@AquashiiMusic]

Thank you so much for explaining this! It's been a mystery for a while. When you rendered and it said it had clipped... It would be amazing if there was an option to analyse the render before it happens to see which tracks/channels are clipping and even have an option to place a limiter on to stop the peaks. It's a big pain waiting for a render to find out that some are clipping then go in fix and render again. If there was the ability to get a read out pre render I think it would really speed workflow up.

[@michaeltablet8577]

Thank you very much! Two of the best things about Presonus! Gregor and Joe!

[@dorminxd]

👌this is how i understand it track=stems channel=multitracks tnx Gregor!

[@danielmiller5521]

If only, when exporting stems from channels, that it would render the fx sends too. Having the fx sends as separate tracks isn't always helpful. Regardless, very helpful exporting options!

[@WhyCallMeLordLord]

GREGOR!!! I LOVE him! :)

Please add a stem export with master bus fx. Love s1 but i really miss this feature

[@jorgedejesustejedavaldez5283]

As a member of Pre songs Sphere please add the Folder buss tracks to the Exporting tracks option. Will be much more easy for us when we need to send stems for mastering! Please Don't ignore 🙌🏽

[@sultansmith]

you can make busses from the folders.

[@jorgedejesustejedavaldez5283]

@@sultansmith yeah but will not allow you to export that stems as “Tracks”, they only allow you to export it as a Channel, and the problem with that is that you have to route the reverd and delays send FX to that Buss, and for someone that his workflow is not like that, is a mess to do that. Is more easy is they add the folder buss tracks in the “tracks” instead, cause at the end what this option doing is to Solo every channel and mixdown one by one, so this channel will sound wet. So why not to include the folder busses too?

[@oscarpatxot659]

Agree with you 100%

[@edbrownjr]

Heyyyyy, How did you setup the drum track with the four channels? Can you demonstrate in a video? Thanks

[@EbinAugustin]

Hope fender won't screw up Studio One.

[@MrDannyLaRusso]

thanks gregor.... i really appreciate what you do... would you like to hear the music i make with studio one?

[@chikorhymz3217]

Hey Greg, How can you export stems with different lengths..? e.g you are recording an audio book with tracks having different lengths..?

[@BOURBONSTREETSLIM]

@Gregor when i export stems as tracks or channels, i noticed that there is a 1db volume difference between them. The track stems are 1db lower than the channel stems. The volume settings are the same. no inserts on channels. is this by design?

[@thebrokenworks]

As usual, very informative, Gregor. How can I export just my raw edited tracks and bypass the mixer entirely? I know about the Activate All Inserts button, but I'd like all mixer settings to be 0 dB and panned center without manually resetting the whole mix.

[@anotherchrisperry]

drag the tracks to the Files tab of the Browser. (Needs to be audio tracks)

[@raffosax]

Hi one question for you. Why, when I export a stem and send it to someone who works on another DAW, the speed of the stem is different from that of the initial project? This thing drives whoever receives the file crazy and has to resynchronize everything. I use the same sample rate... what's wrong?

[@navneet4489]

As usual Gregor exceptional information...but I am stuck to one thing...apart from this topic.As ii drop any delay to send of any mixer track it creates separate bus for that delay, perfect, but this bus does not have any further send option to send to some reverb or else, rather i have to insert reverb in the same channel in which delay is and control it by reverb mix knob...is there any way around or should studio one should have send control on fx bus too...thanks

[@anotherchrisperry]

hold "option' on mac when dragging to the send. This creates a Bus channel as opposed to an FX channel, so it has sends. :)

[@darrylweller6143]

When exporting track does it matter what level your track is at?

[@GTDami]

Anyone know how come when I export channel stems (from studio one 4.6 into 6.0) the imported wave files sounds like white noise when I playback? (Impact kit and GGD drums)

[@contraspower6302]

Plz give us feature to include master and send effects while export just like cubase and Ableton do🙏

[@gowoke_gobroke]

I never saw Gregor get so many dislikes for a teaching tutorial. I think this may be because it's not explained very well. It's not the type of thing where you can just wing it and play it by ear.

[@contraspower6302]

Plz give us feature to include master and send effects while exporting stems just like cubase and Ableton do🙏

[@fortheoneswhocare]

I would also like to have the possibility to select channel or track export per "instance" as on bigger projects with many channels I have to export channels and then do it again for tracks. Or simply allow to export both at the same time. It would save some time.

[@djorig]

Good thing you don’t have to real-time print your stems. 👍🏼

[@fortheoneswhocare]

@@djorig definitely ! :D

[@giammy_nuraghe]

I have to do the bounces of the individual tracks, but they have to be exactly like when I hear a mixdown export. I know I should do export in stems, and select "Tracks". But in this way the effects that are inside the bus of the individual tracks and the bus automations are not exported. To do this I have to do a single bounce for each track. Isn't there a way to do a general bounce of every single stem, so that it sounds exactly like my mixdown? Very simply, I export the mixdown. Then I export my complete stems. And it's exactly the same. (Bus automations must not be missing)

[@brunobari]

it would be great if i can export stems on pre fader mode to avoid clipping.... just like logic... im having a hard time to export stems and not clipping without messing my original mix

[@VLADINONEXOKUDELA]

Hi all! In version 6, for some reason, when exporting stems, the panorama is not exported; if you select the Chanels source, no matter how you pan, the stereo track merges without taking into account the panorama, everything sounds in the center

[@presonus]

Hi, I cannot reproduce this issue on my end. Please log a support ticket so that we can look into this together: my.presonus.com/support/open -GBY

[@djalexia]

Well, I just got off the remote session with a Presonus advisor. He wasn’t able to solve the annoying issues that I have exporting my project in both Track&Cannel mode unfortunately many of exported tracks had a leaks from another channel merge together i.e. the audio track of the groove had a reverberated vocal and so on. I never seen any thing like that, so the advisor. It should be a simple task exporting audio tracks w. FX or Dry jus by passing FX all this grouping and bussing is ridiculous. I hope you Presonus will make it easier and straight forward like I do in LogicProX or ProTools. All these non sense routing. Why not just simply export audio tracks in one go and with simple bypass FX or Wet. Sort but after the remote session I was told to group, bus even the FX (?) I’m going to try to do it this way. Not so thrilled with this bug. After all when exporting a session separated audio files I shouldn’t worry about this bleeding sound into track’s making it impossible to send out to whom ever.

[@luizbono3697]

When i export the stems, the mastering is ignored?

[@verditerblue9424]

Is there a way to export individual tracks with the bus compression applied correctly? 'Channels' option doesn't include bus fx, and 'Tracks' option solos every track for export so the threshold is not met correctly, causing difference in levels. I find this quite annoying when sending backing vocal tracks to mix engineer who prefers to take the mix from where I left it at. Working with 50+ tracks of backing vocals, it's much more efficient to work on a backing vocals bus than individual tracks. I hope to find a way to properly export multi-tracks in situations like above!

[@presonus]

Here’s how I do this: I send the stem channel routings that I’m seeking to export to a new set of bus channels, which I’m specifically adding only for this purpose. These Buses don’t have any processing on them and don’t alter the mix in any way, they are really just for stem exports. I mark them clearly with names in CAPSLOCK to distinguish them from my “actual” Bus Channels. Once I have prepared export buses for all channels, all that’s left to do is a Stem Channel Export of every bus channel that’s written in capslock. :) it works amazing for me - I get the exact routings I want, and it’s a full parallel export, so it’s super fast, too. Perhaps this is something you could try out? -GBY

[@contraspower6302]

​@@presonusjust give us an option to click include return and master effects without crazy routing just like Ableton

[@5ammy13]

What happens if you have multiple channels sending to one FX Channel, let's say Reverb... Then, track exports make more sense right? Because you can't separate instruments when you export Channels. The Reverb channel will contain reverb for all your instruments and you cannot separate them.

[@tonyrapa-tonyrapa]

It's great to have the choice but I think it's a no brainer to export channel stems.

[@readymadeit5746]

This is some of the first things you learn

[@romanx3267]

what about the master effects, if I want to export a bus that also goes into the master ?

[@presonus]

Hi, you could consider creating a Bus where all channels that previously went to the Master are being routed to instead. Then move all the insert effects from your Master Bus over to this new Bus. Now you have all of the flexibility you'd have with regular Bus Channels on your Master Bus as well. -GBY

[@contraspower6302]

​@@presonusjust give us an option to click include return and master effects without crazy routing just like Ableton

[@LuchuyencamBTT1980]

Studio one là Daw dành cho toàn thế giới sử dụng . Vậy bạn nên có phụ đề cho các quốc gia nghe để hiểu

[@contraspower6302]

just give us an option to click include return and master effects without crazy routing just like Ableton do

[@chumz1996]

give me BLACK FRIDAY SALE!!!

[@glenhagerman3114]

Simply put channel stems = 0 effects Tracks stems = effects.

[@SadBstard]

...er....pardon?

[@youowemeapony]

Presonus seriously needs to re-evaluate their approach to exporting/freezing. A bypass master FX checkbox for exporting stems is so necessary. I tried to make a macro to select the master and bypass the effects on that channel, but GO FIGURE there’s no command to bypass all inserts on a selected channel. I can do it with one button from my faderport 8, but there is no option to include it in a macro. Only to disable ALL inserts session wide. Come on! Why can’t we have a commit feature like protools, or even better, a “transform folder/buss to audio” command. Just replace the folder content view with an audio waveform and disable and either hide or minimize the frozen tracks within the buss. Also, let us freeze a track to a certain plugin. Sometimes you have CPU heavy stuff you’re ready to print early in the chain. It’s such a PITA to have to export the track and have it import to the bottom of the session, then cutting that audio, reselecting the channel you bounced, making a new layer, naming it and pasting the audio to preserve the OG. All of this should be one step.

[@presonus]

Thanks for your feedback! About your last point: Wouldn’t the existing command “Mixdown Selection” solve this issue in one step (other than this creating a new Track instead of a Track Layer)? -GBY

[@youowemeapony]

@@presonus Hey GBY! Mix down selection will still run through the master effects chain, and I still have to take the time to move that track to the correct spot in my session if it imports the track to the bottom of the track list. I just want the ability to freeze my busses (with or without channel FX, downstream FX/bussing/master FX, panning, automation, etc) and continue working in my already organized session, with the ability to revert back to tweak if necessary. This would be a game changer for studio one for audio mixers and sound designers. If I’m being honest, there needs to be more of a distinction between the artist and professional versions of studio one. The trend since 6 has been to simplify everything for songwriters, and audio mixers and sound designers seem to get the occasional treat or quality of life updates. I crave MUCH deeper options menus and customization. Give the pro’s the control we want and need. We don’t have to go full reaper, but there’s gotta be a middle ground. I would love to share some thoughts and suggestions with the Presonus team. I love studio one, and evangelize it to everyone, but there’s always room for improvement, and I really believe that S1 can be the best DAW out there with a few new features. Seems like it’s pretty clear that the nomenclature and processes for exporting audio are way too convoluted, if nothing else. The comments here kinda speak for themselves.

[@armoniapush8281]

For some strange reason this reminded me of dora the explorer.

[@LFiers]

Yeah haha. Swiper stop swiping haha

[@contraspower6302]

Export in studio one sucks everything thing in studio one is perfect except exporting. Plz give use export features like cubase. Like fx intact etc.

[@davidskousen5862]

Fast talk and curser all over the place leaves me still wondering what he's talking about!

[@kensmechanicalaffair]

This nerd shit is needlessly complicated, you should take this shit off the market.

[@toolondaboards]

Agreed. I think a better option would be to have a checkbox if you wanted FX on/off

[@joshwashing7140]

Should’ve just gotten straight to the point and explained it clear. What each one does and why you would do it…. That simple. Over complicated it

[@contraspower6302]

Plz give us feature to include master and send effects while exporting stems just like cubase and Ableton do🙏