Common Mixing Mistakes

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[@michaeltablet8577]

Please do a series of these mistakes. So helpful! Thanks Joe!

[@Chrsly]

I can do a reality show on my series of mistakes!

[@DaveWestGuitar]

Because of Joe, I stayed with Studio One long enough to get past Pro Tools dependence. I thank you so much. Tech support could not help me like you did.

[@stupendousmusic4190]

Excellent Joe!

[@abj358]

Joe, after watching easily dozens of your videos, I'm confident in stating that, bar none, you make some of THE best and most captivating mouth effects ("gerbily," et al) I've ever had the pleasure of experiencing. What an unmitigated joy! Please make a track, or even better, a video of NOTHIING BUT THIS! I would play it once a day to get my mind straight. Oh, and...good advice. Thanks. Again.

[@barrybunnell7371]

Yes to the series! That would be awesome.

[@tonyrapa-tonyrapa]

Yup - keep 'em coming, Joe!

[@zuider77]

Yes! Please do a series!!

[@jerrycoursey7320]

Very helpful Thank You Joe

[@boogybass]

Thanks, Joe! I'm so happy to hear this, as I take these three into consideration every time. Cool, maybe I'm doing something right.

[@EnjoyRC]

YES!!! Please keep making these videos. Very easy to follow and understand.

[@markholley]

Keep this series going, it's either great new knowledge, or good reminders. Thanks!

[@robertshamansky1912]

These videos are so helpful. You and Gregor are a great combination 😄

[@JeffsSleeping]

That was excellent! Thank you so much, I would love to see this turn into a series!!!

[@TheUnforgettableBuzz]

Great stuff! Thanks Joe, learned so much from all of your videos. You're such a great teacher.

[@lambportuza]

Great tips Joe., thank you

[@OFrankieJ]

Very helpful, Joe. Thank a bunch... Keep them coming

[@cmchater]

Really gets to the point FAST unlike most clips. Very pertinent and helpful - please post more like this!

[@shadesof1967]

Thanks, Joe. You have a great way of explaining things in ways non-tech people can understand. Yes, please continue!

[@joeypinter7264]

thanks joe

[@DavidPappleMusic]

Good Stuff Joe! Been mixing for a while now, but There ia ALWAYS something to learn- no matter what yer experience. Please continue with more of these videos!

[@terrylester9409]

Thanks Joe.... the MP3 the bite rate info was an eye opener for me!

[@ethan1music]

the 3 finger thing is explained in Inglourious Bastards... and as always, these videos are awesome. Thanks for taking the time to create them

[@Arian-abbas]

Yes please do a series of these mistakes. So helpful! Thank you

[@yiqwaba3833]

Love this topic.

[@michaeldouglas2634]

Thank you so much for sharing. Great tips.

[@oldbluzguy]

Great info!

[@rivvidproductions]

Definitely have made the first mistake before! And the clarification about bit rate was super helpful! Would love to see more mixing mistakes and even some mastering tips!

[@shaynsnyolo]

I used to wonder why people are so crazy about studio one when I was using Logic now I'm one of the crazy ones 🥺

[@rmkbsounds]

S1 is like monster.

[@ringomaharaj1268]

I know the feeling....been using studio one pro since 2013 and never looked back.

[@marcgalo9476]

great song ..... thanks ....

[@Just-Tony]

Some great tips here... so many times I've explained to people about the first tip, that you need to record a second track if you want that "doubling" or "stereo" kind of thing. The second tip, I just use the loop marker, the same difference really. The third tip was helpful for me, I'm an out and out musician and although I have some limited daw experience (cakewalk guitar tracks), I'm a noob to Presonus, so any basic info, like, "just do it this way", is great for me when it comes to Bit-rate, or sample rate or anything to do with mastering etc. The "just do it this way" is a great way to get started on Presonus for a noob, and then later you can get into the "why" etc. Thanks Joe.

[@MikeKuehl]

Great tips! Keep em coming. Now I need to go back and export songs again!

[@sleeperawake9818]

Great video! Clearly described. It's a gift to be able to make this material understandable to a knucklehead like me, thank you Joe!

[@billmeecham]

Keep it going!

[@VibeXplorer]

Learned something new AGAIN, Joe! This time, export bitrate. Fantastic and so crucial to know. Thank you!

[@stevecarless2218]

great job,i now understand a little more about studio one

[@steaderockrecords]

More videos like this please!😊

[@pcmedic2828]

Thank you! Love this video and its definitely helping me! Please post more like this

[@ludam3029]

Excellent video. I do the doubling on some tracks, and did not realize what was pointed out. No more doubling. Please make this a constant feature, it is great

[@enriquesanchez2001]

Joe - I must commend you for ONE very basic thing about your presentation: You are natural. You do not make the mistake of making your presentation STAND OUT more than the content. For example: being some way-out cool "personality" that tends to be annoying and drowns out the basic purpose of your presentation. Perhaps you have experienced this type before! :) From my point of view, you were just about perfect. I cannot thank you enough - you have sealed your integrity with me! :)

[@CodyKensinger]

I have only been recording and mixing myself for about 8 months now and have been getting a terrible sound from my cymbals that no amount of eq or compression could contain... then I watch this and go re export my latest song at 320 kbps and the problem is solved. All those headaches over something so simple. Thanks, Joe!

[@presonus]

👍 - Joe Gilder

[@EpinionatedMusic]

This was great. More please! Point #3 I actually did yesterday in my new version of Studio One.

[@flipperpitstudio]

Two of these helped me. 😁 Would love more, please! 👍 Cheers!

[@revival570]

This was really helpful, especially the part about needing to actually record a track twice to make stereo recordings, rather then attempting to duplicate. If you could do a series on this sort of basic stuff it would be really useful. Many Thanks.

[@chuckfarley4401]

Thank you. As a noob I am happy to learn from your mistakes. Continue please.

[@jonv2911]

Really helpful! Keep going ..

[@roberthmckay]

I made the first mistake on the first thing I ever recorded. I ended up with 10 seconds of silence at the start. My solution? I just tell people it is a sample from 4'33" by John Cage

[@davidl8094]

Good info, thanks....

[@lariconesbitt2630]

Yes you do need to make it a series

[@knickell50]

Appreciate your videos

[@Vazooka]

yes, series pls ♥

[@dyz5688]

appreciate that

[@federicobreno1839]

Yes do a serie!!

[@youngticoi]

More of this

[@juanziegler1471]

very helpful for this old guy learning thanks alot

[@garyshepherd9226]

All good advice. You can move one of the duplicates forward or backwards in time and that can work.

[@rumar4u]

Right or add a delay

[@Just-Tony]

I agree, it's possible... personally though, I think if you record a second track, the slight differences in the two performances add a little something. Even after recording a second track, you can still move it forward or backward as you suggest.

[@rumar4u]

@@Just-Tony If you know how to, also Melodyne let's you affect pitch in different areas of the track making it a great choice as well.

[@HomeStudioCorner]

That causes phase issues

[@rumar4u]

@@HomeStudioCorner I’ve seen it work wonderfully with Melodyne.

[@ringomaharaj1268]

Nice tips...wished I saw this a couple years ago 😯. My issue now is the frequencies to use for kick and bass, which to boost and where to cut.

[@ericlokishannonhouse2317]

YES!!! I love that u pointed out the wrong Exporting resolution numbers! If you have ever exported Metal with very intense drums before, it is quickly obvious why lower resolutions make the cymbals and higher toms sound distorted or "crumble-y"

[@michaelpal7641]

I was guilty of all these. I sent my friend an MP3 of what I thought was my best "First" finished song. He asked for a .WAV file and I sent it to him. He said the .WAV file sounded much better. I completely overlooked the settings in the Export box as well as being a "newbie" to all this. Thank you Sir!

[@AxelLewis777]

Yes please give us more knowledge !

[@dopeszn3839]

please make it a series, thank you

[@TheMaartian]

In tests I did several years ago, the only audible difference between 256 kbps and 320 kbps MP3 files that I could detect was on a high end system with a good subwoofer. I noticed a bit of a loss of low freq definition in the 256 version compared to the 320 version. Been using 320 ever since.

[@GILLISH]

people if u pan tracks you will be fine there are other reason for doing this and not just to make it louder once you understand freq in ur work flow also making copies is very good for instance ur bass u can make 2 copies of that bass bass 1 take out highs and mids leave only lows and keep in mono bass 2 only do the mids but in stereo bass 3 only highs and pan wider then copy 2.

[@scottparker7739]

Joe, I could make a second (fourth?) career for you by listing out all the mistakes I have made to do a series on. First one would be "should have asked for that bike when I was 13 instead of that pretty white Fender Mustang bass in the music store..." Through number 2 (duplication) I was like "Ha! I got this." Then the bitrate for an mp3 happened and I went "doh!" and slapped my head. Keep 'em coming, brother!

[@yinonmargaliot7411]

04:17 also, you can duplicate the track, pan the tracks and give one track some time offset. the stereo effect will be correlated to the offset. I recommended to start with ~15ms and see how things going.

[@BladesMusic]

Thanks for another useful video Joe! One "cheat" I've found to get around mistake 1 is to duplicate the track, nudge one a little back in time and the other a little forward in time (just enough to hear it - measured in milliseconds) then pan them left and right. Still not as good as recording the part a second time, which is way more organic due to all of the subtleties, but at least you'll get that stereo spread that way.

[@presonus]

Nope. I'm super against this. It does not really create stereo. It creates huge phase issues. - Joe Gilder

[@horacestacey3549]

joe, You are very good at what you do. I watch your videos daily as training. I would love for studio one to put a volume peddle in as a plug in for guitars

[@JaredJCTN]

Thanks for the info. I need to check my export settings. The work I do is taking audio off a video recorded on a phone, mixing all the video audio in studio 1, then putting it back into the video program. I always wondered why it sounds different in studio 1 then in the raw video. More mutted. I'm not working with studio quality. Maybe a video on important and exporting and how to keep it clear.

[@dantemurphy2729]

Regarding the duplication "mistake"...one of the reasons I like to duplicate and pan is so that I can put vocals and rhythm in the center and melody in the left and right channels. I find this gives my vocals more clarity and the rhythm more punch. Agree that doing this AND leaving the center channel makes no sense, but the LCR panning trick works quite well for me. I'll even do slightly different reverb settings on L and R sometimes to give the mix a little more character, though that might just be my imagination.

[@bobsofficial4945]

I make all of those mistakes, I would love to see this turn into a series.

[@eshortsax]

Great advice! I found out about the kbs about a month ago and was just like “wow -_-“ lol. Should’ve been doing this a long time ago :)

[@MumbyHitsDrums]

I think one thing that was missing here is, in the duplicating and panning section, It would have been good to show that you can duplicate a track, slightly nudge one forward or back to offset, then pan. Makes for a pretty cool stereo sound using one track.

[@PsyJaye]

I've used that doubling method and had nice results..

[@tourmgt]

I DO 3THREE THE SAMEWAY another good un keep em comin joe God Bless

[@lincolnmmitchell]

In regard to the track duplication: recording 2 takes of a performance does not make it stereo. That would be dual mono. You can pan and create width in the part, but until you record with two mics you won't have stereo.

[@cytocache1238]

You can delay one of the panned tracks by a few milliseconds to make a flanger like effect that will make it stereo

[@presonus]

Of course it's not two-mic'd stereo. It's doubled. Then you can pan one left and one right for a stereo sound. It's not technically stereo recording, but it's a ridiculously common production technique. - Joe Gilder

[@lincolnmmitchell]

@@cytocache1238 it actually does not make it stereo. It create phase cancellation and create the perception of more width in the stereo field.

[@cytocache1238]

@@lincolnmmitchell oh, well more width anyway. Is it phase cancellation cause one of the duplicates cancels out one part of the other tracks waves and it takes slightly longer to get to the other ear? Srry if it no make sense

[@lincolnmmitchell]

@@presonus Yes, it's common but not stereo. It changes our perception to the stereo field or image. It creates width, it doesn't create stereo.

[@edmazur2084]

Hi Joe, your tutorials are great, your mixes and arrangements sound great. Thanks for sharing... I do have one comment, though. On the. vid on the K system, you mentioned you always go to K-20 for mixing pop.... actually, Bob Katz says, and so do many mastering engineers, that K-20 is for Large Orchestration mixes with big dynamic ranges. He suggested to use K-14 for mixing and. K-12 for mastering.... Not a criticism , by any means, just a comment of the. use of the K system, which i use all the time. Thanks again for taking the time to share your vast knowledge on mixing, arranging and producing much appreciated.

[@Traynoramp08]

# 3 I didn't know. I always do wav file . thanks for the tips

[@erockmuzic5070]

Thx man I was Panning ny music like you said in your first example thx for the tip good stuff!

[@twinsprucestudios]

Hmmm.... this old dog learned a few new tricks!! Keep 'em coming!!

[@nkozi]

Hmm. The export thing is probably a quick and easy way to do creative downsampling!

[@SarahMclaughlinZA]

Thank you! Oh my gosh, number three. I've sent so many rubbish recordings because of the MP3 default bitrate.

[@alexabraham0055]

Pls make a series

[@RECHARGEINS]

Never made any of theses mistakes, but really appreciate the video ❤

[@albertorobinson7611]

Hi, I really appreciate, some time I experienced a little time warping and decay collision, between 320kbs and the WAV file, sometime I see no difference between 16 bits lower res in 128 kbs mp3, and of course have a good one

[@brysonthomas3636]

Ok, so telling on myself ... A buddy of mine told me to layer to add depth and thickness to the sound. I'm like, "OMG that makes so much sense." ... And a lot of things I'm learning has been awesome and make perfect sense. But duplicating the track over and over has been really frustrating. Duplicating track then EQ differently, add a different Ampire effect to make it sound like a different guitar. But it just doesn't feel right. It hit me yesterday that I need to remove those duplicated tracks and record additional tracks for layering. Thanks for pointing the finger at me Joe.

[@garyfurlong854]

Awesome videos, Joe! What mic are you using?

[@misterphmpg8106]

These are excellent tips thanks. Can you do a video on a cappella vocal recording with multiple Tracks but still a natural sound? Thanks so much. Matt from Germany

[@justinpompeii9409]

Yo please make that series. Please and thank you.

[@ssemujjubaweesi6315]

Ticha ticha 🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿

[@NoelMalekar]

Thank you for this informative video. I had a question regarding panning of individual drums tracks and room mic. Should I change panning of my room mic according to my individual tracks or keep it the way it is. I am using Addictive drums 2 vst .

[@StudioLive824]

Like your hints... Always good to refresh the braincell - Thanks!

[@deisic5674]

Good stuff. lol making music 15 years and learned that panning "trick" from someone who "knew" what they were doing.

[@Janomix]

Excellent! Now I want to see a "mastering session" with the "secrets" to get -7dB Integrated with -1dB true peak, while the music sound very loud, heavy, clean and undistorted... like commercial EDM music. Thanks!!

[@KillerBloodTW]

Nice video and why is Joe Gilder always so hilarious? lol

[@BingBangBoomMusic]

Three!? I'm with Gregor ;) It's an interesting way to do it though.

[@jordanheyvaert6204]

That first one duplicating and assigning to left and right really hit home...

[@syncout]

if you want a stereo sound double your track, pan left and right the zoom in to 1 track and move forward 1 millisecond (play around yourself) this will float the sound over your head like stereo and the volume is the same,

[@CrisGarcia6]

Even if I am not using presonus, if I use Cubase or Nuendo, I hope that the mixing functions would help and resolve the mistakes.

[@altermore]

Thnx, Joe! I like that song. What is it??? I need to hear full song please!

[@JonSkelton]

Please sir, I want some more.

[@watcher203]

Please do a tutorial on vocal processing with stock plugins only

[@tyson822]

Hey Joe. A couple years back there was a studio one video on duplicating tracks, panning them left and right and adding some delay to both at different delay times to create a faux stereo effect. Do you have any particular thoughts on that?