Ice and Fire's Timeline is Weird

[@rampantrambling]

No Daemon dancing intro? What's even the point then 😉

[@kyleholmes8230]

Literally unwatchable

[@Alyx.A]

Every ASOIAF theorist: Think about how brutal The Long Night must’ve been PJ: Think about the squirrels during the Long Night ok? Are they burying 85% more nuts than normal?

[@picklejarmonsterfanboy9367]

The real reason there are so many underground buildings in Ica and Fire is because of those squirrels storing nuts.

[@nont18411]

Classic Preston overthinking things

[@TheHellyeahmen]

It actually surprised me that people believed Harris could win.

[@aaronsoto1346]

Winds is taking so long bc Preston keeps bringing up inconsistencies with the story and George is feverishly trying to fix.

[@umwha]

1:45:00 - Briennes lack of suitors is a BIG PROBLEM. Tarth is larger than sicilly. Yes, she should have 1000 suitors from Tarth alone. The other problem is that she is the sole heir to all Tarth, and she would no way be let out alone to be a warrior. If she dies (or is taken hostage) then Tarth has no heir. Her father would send a large retuinue, or bodyguards, if he ever let her out to fight at all. This can be easily fixed. Brienne should have been born to a minor branch of house Tarth. The real rulers of Tarth are rich, live in Evenstar, and have some lovely male heirs. Brienne is totally overlooked because she is far down the line of sucsession for Tarth. Hence, her father lets her out of her womanly duties and go out to risk her life. Through the story, we would hear of the destruction of the main house Tarth, the male heirs being killed, and the female heirs dying or being captured. This way Brienne will eventually become the sole heir to Tarth, but she wouldn't start out that way.

[@donaldjgumpofficial5754]

Arya killing the insurance guy could be woven in with that. Preston theorised that the Tarths won't have insured ships anymore because of the killing.

[@FlorianMark]

This would be great 👍

[@FlorianMark]

​@@donaldjgumpofficial5754 Mr Donald J Gump is a fan of ASOIAF and Preston? You are my president!

[@swiftyasaninja]

Kamala got blown out

[@SapphireSolstice67]

I normally don’t like to hear PJ talk about politics but this week I do, I wanna know how bad he thinks this is

[@oculargoose7361]

Biden & Kamala fucked up royally

[@masonrockwood7732]

​@@SapphireSolstice67 Why though? It's just going to be bitching and moaning.

[@dw1419]

@@SapphireSolstice67 My same contacts who had online meltdowns 8 years ago about being "terrified" and hating this country because they were going to lose all their rights and go to prison etc. did the exact same thing this week... their doomsaying isn't going to come true this time either.

[@b1bbscraz3y]

@@masonrockwood7732 Trump took a good economy in 2016 after Obama and ruined it with people predicting a recession even before covid. Biden relieved a coming recession and lifted the economy out from Trump throwing away a good economy to the point the US is #1 post-covid recovery. Republicans always take a good economy from a previous Democrat and run it into the ground, then a Democrat comes and cleans up the mess by the previous Republican, over and over

[@frogman101]

Carmine can you get that guy from Groningen back on to go over his maths again

[@GodKingReiss]

It's worth noting that the "doom" in Mount Doom is used in the more archaic sense as in "destiny" or "prophecy", more than just calling the big bad mountain "Mount Big Bad".

[@Mj_Jetson]

2:23:32 " _You will never walk again, Bran," the pale lips promised, "but you will fly_ " That's gotta be metaphorical, right? It would be _sooo_ lame if he meant it literally - it doesn't make for the cool reveal that the line implies, and if warging a raven counts as flying, then shouldn't warging Summer or Hodor count as walking?

[@milosradivojevic229]

Maybe dragon ?

[@Ayoayoayoayoayoayoa]

@@milosradivojevic229if Bran can warg Hodor he can certainly try to warg a dragon. Whether he would succeed though is 🤷‍♂️

[@Nemisish]

Well that did not age well 🤡

[@michaellee9926]

Bro legit went mia to avoid confronting his absolute shit political takes

[@KonguZya]

Even if you excuse the multi-year winters from an ecological standpoint, it's quite egregious that it seems to never fucking come up in any of the hundreds of years of history. Like HOTD season 1 covers twenty years, and we happen to never see a day of snow? Dunk and Egg's adventures, the tourney at Harrenhall, name any important event in Westerosi history aside from the Long Night, and it seem to take place during nice summer weather.

[@memeaficionado]

Never thought of that, that's a great point.

[@jabberwookie50]

It's probably time to stop talking about politics. Government employees have no idea what they're talking about, clearly.

[@SQTOS]

[@arvaakuka8568]

Anyone who disagrees with me or has ever made an inaccurare estimation about politics shouldn't have freedom of speech

[@dw1419]

Preston lives in a liberal bubble out of touch with everyday Americans re-re-reconfirmed.

[@picklejarmonsterfanboy9367]

​@@arvaakuka8568 do you posses any reading comprehension or do you simply not understand freedom of speech

[@michaellee9926]

@@picklejarmonsterfanboy9367I think preston needs a wellness check after being so out of touch

[@Aliexei]

I'm watching this after elections btw 😂

[@tysonmindham2986]

Same. Pretty depressing at points.

[@benjaminsilverman1723]

Aged like milk

[@tysonmindham2986]

@@benjaminsilverman1723Sitting in the hot summer sun.

[@dw1419]

@@tysonmindham2986 sign maybe PJ should stick to ASOIAF about which he is knowledgeable and has interesting things to say, and not politics, about which he has bad takes coming from his one-sided echo chamber?

[@lukaspersson5882]

With a title like 'Ice and Fire's Timeline is Weird', I would have hoped this video would have focused on it for more than 12 minutes.

[@nabeelhussain1372]

that's literally every PJ Live though.

[@tjosiahhaynes]

Yah he always titles his streams based on his first question he asks everyone

[@masonrockwood7732]

That's how most of them are. I usually listen until that neanderthal RedTeam joins, then I click off.

[@picklejarmonsterfanboy9367]

Seriously, why did the Blues nominate Taena Merryweather to beat Craster, when Cersei failed the last time. I get Pycelle being too old, but come on, was there really no one better.

[@picklejarmonsterfanboy9367]

i want the next video WITH HASTE

[@umwha]

56:48 Preston compares the Arm of Dorne to the bearing strait making Westeros North America. But there’s a more obvious comparisons - Doggerland. Britain uses to be connected to Europe by land , and that’s how human s got there.

[@MaegorExposition]

Has Preston just stopped doing the Fire & Blood series? Cuz I really don’t like these.

[@peterv1054]

When I watched season 8 episode 3 and it looks like they are loosing the battle, many characters are surrounded, for a few seconds I thought they would all die and Bran would then timetravel and change strategy and this would be episode 4: replaying the battle at Winterfell over and over again. Could have been a cool concept.

[@highlandoutsider]

I think of all the animals in Westros, the squirrels are chillin, they'd obviously save up enough nuts for the most extreme case possible, so as soon as you have a winter shorter than that then suddenly you have yourself a nut surplus which only grows with each shorter than max winter, squirrels now no longer need to compete for food,meaning less aggressive behavior and more free time, leading to a communal living structure, eventually developing a very woodland focused belief system that focuses it worship toward acorn bearing trees..

[@hitchikerspie]

New Preston video? Wow sweet Robin must be alerted

[@Mj_Jetson]

3:06:36 *Mummer's dragon* idea: when Aegon takes KL, he hosts a parade to celebrate and gain the smallfolk's support, with free food, elephants, dancing bears and a cloth dragon held up on poles.

[@trippinzombiez]

This would be a great metaphor

[@masonrockwood7732]

Isn't it all but confirmed that Aegon HIMSELF is the mummers dragon? He being a Targ and supported by Varys. It's pretty obvious...

[@Mj_Jetson]

@@masonrockwood7732 Confirmed? Absolutely not - how would that even happen? Oh sure he's metaphorically a mummer's dragon, but a lot of Dany's visions have literal elements as well (her silver on her wedding night to Drogo, Victarion as the prow of his ship, the wine seller, the people she freed chanting mother) A literal element would kinda be the closest you could get to confirming the metaphorical/thematic connection to Aegon, no? Or do you think its best if the connection to Aegon is left vaguer and more ambiguous?

[@daoberik]

cant wait for prestons meltdown, now, after elections

[@dw1419]

When the majority of Americans don’t buy the claims that people parading around the C@pitol building with no weapons and no plan almost 0verthr3w the g0vernm3nt … Preston: I am I so out of touch?… …No, it’s the majority of voters who are wrong.

[@jackmcdonald293]

⁠@@dw1419Have you heard of the appeal to popularity. It’s a fallacy where people assert that something must be true because so many people believe it to be so. That’s what you’re doing here. Just because millions believe something, doesn’t make it true. There was an attempt to overthrow an election and millions deciding it was actually a fun illegal parade through the US Capitol building, doesn’t change reality unfortunately.

[@arvaakuka8568]

Getting enjoyment from other people's unhappiness is totally proving that you are the good guys and not sadistic vampires who fetishize negativity

[@daoberik]

@@arvaakuka8568 yeah, when preston says "i hate you, go f yourself" - its totally a vibe of a good guy. btw "good" and "bad" a terms of infantile. there are no "good" or "bad" people, dude. there are people who grow and move civilization up, and those who degenerate and move us all to destruction. you probably don't even understand what is talked about, "good" boy. grow up.

[@arvaakuka8568]

​@@daoberikI grew up from my Nietzsche phase during high school so you can miss me with that. It's quite eye opening that Trump supporters like you straight up admit you don't believe in morality anymore. I guess it's mask off, I like it.

[@stacyfromouterspace]

i wonder how people of asoiaf world figured out months if their seasons all fucked up

[@Mj_Jetson]

i guess they use lunar phases?

[@GodKingReiss]

Same as us, the moon. That’s why it’s called a “moon’s turn”.

[@stacyfromouterspace]

@@GodKingReiss it’s more complicated I think. The concept of the months emerges due to agriculture and need to recognise cycles. How they figured 12 months year structure if cycles are uneven? How they come up with the concept of the year? What’s year for them?

[@Kristiano100]

@@stacyfromouterspacei assume they did it by measuring in tandem with the sun and the length of the day and night, as planetos still has hemispheres. So the shortest day of the year is one day of the year, and then approximately 12 cycles of the moon pass before you reach that same shortest day again.

[@astronaughte]

​@@stacyfromouterspaceExactly. What are the odds that Planetos would have the exact same 29.5 days per moon cycle like earth? Or the same 365 days a year? The odds would be...astronomical.

[@hugolouessard3914]

The month/day format confuses me so much, it's so hard to read when you're used to the other way around.

[@amandaofhouserobinson6707]

Lol me too. Aussies and Americans dates are the opposite, lol! Can be confusing. Hehe! I struggle more with time differences! Hehe ❤😊

[@SapphireSolstice67]

@@amandaofhouserobinson6707 Yeah I wish there was an Aussie/(much of the world version) or toggle to make it easier for us

[@FlorianMark]

​@@SapphireSolstice67 if your pfp is you you look like someone from the og Nintendo developers.

[@KonguZya]

As an American, I really wish we used Day/Month/Year. It's just much simpler and logical.

[@chriss4001]

Is it the American way or the right way?

[@HickoryBill]

Preston I get what you’re saying about multi year winters but I think you forgot about the ice age. All the animals alive today survived that. Plant-life clearly survived/revived following

[@raddysaddy4865]

Yes but remember an ice age is just a general dramatic drop in global temperatures. Around the equator there were still seasons allowing more cold-vulnerable animals to survive.

[@HickoryBill]

@ absolutely, however plenty didn’t. It didn’t matter to the reindeer in Russia 14,000 years ago. The Neanderthals were doing alright in Europe until the meteor showers and cro magnons. The cold didn’t displace them, nor deter multiple immigrations from-and to-Africa with Homo sapiens. As you pointed out, it’s a lot more complicated than simply “plants couldn’t survive an 8 year winter”. How is southyros doing during the long night? What about the stepstones? Are those equatorial? I just find this to be a silly hill to die on in the grand scheme of what constitutes a plot hole or an illogical fictional world design

[@gokbay3057]

I have seen some fan interpretations (especially those seeking to make ASOIAF more realistic) interpret the whole multi-year seasons thing as Planetos simply having a lot of mini ice ages while it still has seasons as normal. But the capital letter Winter and Summer refer to mini ice ages and warm periods and not the yearly seasons.

[@Mj_Jetson]

31:38 I think the *Bael the Bard* story means so much more than Jon Snow's Wall-breaking pro-wildling ideology. It also has the motif of the daughter of Winterfell getting kidnapped, which recurs with Lyanna (especially with the blue roses connection), Sansa and Jeyne Poole. Ygritte tells the story in Jon VI, right after Theon IV where we find out Bran and Rickon are missing - the story provides a clue about where they're hiding. Ygritte also says "the gods hate kinslayers, even when they k*ll unknowing" which feels like a nod towards Theon and the Rickon-body-double, who might be Theon's biological son?

[@Ronin3453]

Alright! That's it. Mance Rayder is Rhaegar Targaryen.

[@Mj_Jetson]

@@Ronin3453 LOL yes! Also Rhaegar is simultaneously Dontos, Littlefinger and Theon, and I guess Lyanna is Sansa and Jeyne? omg I once read an over-the-top theory that the bit players in King's Landing are all Varys - now I'm imagining the same kind of thing in the north 😆

[@Ronin3453]

@@Mj_Jetson Yes and it is all foreshadowed too. Remember when Varys talked about shadow on the wall? He was talking about shadow babies.

[@HickoryBill]

Mount doom isn’t the actual name it’s Orodruin, everyone calls it mount doom in a common tongue. And either way idk is Mount doom any lazier than the Grand Canyon?

[@hollin220]

Oh boy could’ve really used a live chat this week. Promise to send over a super chat. Thanks! I look forward to your thoughts on the next one.

[@michaellee9926]

He’s probably preparing for all the shit he is going to get for being so out of touch and wrong about all the election stuff

[@dw1419]

could've*

[@clarkmannen8789]

@@michaellee9926 He wasn’t out of touch, he was naive for thinking you people would vote like rational adults.

[@hollin220]

@@dw1419 edited… thanks

[@michaellee9926]

@ aka out of touch with the majority. He was naive thinking most people agreed with his smooth brained opinions

[@FullMetalElric]

People should ask for refunds for how that Ad money was spent. How are you not confused when you see us cheering with the Ds when y'all were celebrating being endorsed by bush era neocons??

[@dw1419]

and now it's coming out the millions of dollars the Kamala campaign wasted on celebrity endorsements and concerts to try to draw crowds... like really? Oprah is a billionaire and she still charged a cool million for her endorsement when she supposedly believed that if Trump won he would never allow another election? blowing through over a billion and still be 20M in the hole tracks with their approach to stewardship of other people's money, though.

[@The_Gerry_Man]

i cant believe no one has said this but i think the biggest point of the bael the bard story is that it pararllels osha and bran and the rest chilling in the crypts, i mean they even say in the story they were looking for them, couldn't find them but they were in the crypts, and osha is a wildling, bran is a stark, it happens at the end of book that the story was first told, i like your interpretation but i think that one is the actual reason

[@harleytriton76]

D.O.G.E

[@picklejarmonsterfanboy9367]

does that mean Preston could get fired? i feel bad for him now

[@dw1419]

@@picklejarmonsterfanboy9367 might be the push he needs to become a full time content creator

[@picklejarmonsterfanboy9367]

@@dw1419 I know you're joking, but he has a child, his priority should always be with his son, he really doesn't need some bullshit in his life right now

[@dw1419]

@@picklejarmonsterfanboy9367 I mean if he could be just a KZbinr and no longer worry about a full-time government bureaucrat job (conceding that govt jobs generally aren't as demanding as private sector and are very hard to get fired from), wouldn't he have more time for his family?

[@picklejarmonsterfanboy9367]

@dw1419 I don't know. seems like a case to case basis.

[@Astromamut]

Why is Barristan not guarding Robert at Winterfell?

[@Blckrngr]

Preston, come back. So, your estimation was off. Boohoo. Humanity's heading towards disaster either way. Come back! I need your phenomenal videos.

[@LarthV]

On the Mt. Doom issue: Tolkien actually made a point on how and why the name was specifically assigned, albeit not in the Lord of the Rings itself. He wrote that it was that way (or Amon Amarth, Sindarin/Elvish language) because it erupted at the time of Saurons forces making a full on attack.

[@dw1419]

It’s more like the Mountain of Destiny

[@LarthV]

@@dw1419 In German certainly, and I personally like that interpretation better - but I am German and thus biased. However, since it is a translation from Tolkien's invented language he made himself, I guess he has the correct one...

[@dw1419]

@@LarthV Doom in English used to be used to mean judgment (as in Doomsday being Judgment Day or the end of the world), fate, destiny, but now the word has evolved in common use to mean a bad end or destruction (Mount of Destiny is also the Spanish translation).

[@LarthV]

@@dw1419 Oh, nice - thank you for the explanation!

[@MikVision]

I’m just laughing at all the Kamala cope now that the results are in 😂😂😂😂

[@patricksullivan6988]

Mount Doom has two other names: "Amon Amarth" and "Orodruin." I, personally, enjoy things carrying multiple names depending on who is speaking. Like referring to the Sworn Brothers of the Night's Watch as "black brothers" or "crows" or referring to the Brave Companions as "The Bloody Mummers"

[@godfreyofbouillon966]

You make so many assumptions. Maybe khalasar was hanging out a few miles outside the city. Maybe they hired local assassin using ravens (do they use ravens in Essos?)

[@shutit8949]

I doubt you’d be able to get a raven to fly over the sea. I don’t think they’ve ever mentioned a raven being used that way at least

[@bluezzz6596]

God I wish I didn’t listen to the talk at 2:03:44 post election

[@TheHellyeahmen]

not the first time preston was willing to lie a little to "prove" his point

[@picklejarmonsterfanboy9367]

This is the funniest thing I listened to in while. I'm tempted to give a donation next stream saying "You remember when Bowen Marsh thought we shouldn't worry about the Wildlings taking Castle Black and the Night's Watch is a well oiled machine, but Mance Rayder ended up taking ALL THREE manned castles."

[@R0CKDRIG0]

"His rallies are empty and small. Her rallies are huge." lol

[@dw1419]

Au contraire it's much funnier to see PJ's copium exposed. For months he's been ranting how "ackshually the economy is amazing according to the govt statistics that they definitely aren't manipulating and correcting later once it's out of the headlines" and "the unorganized and unarmed January 6th protesters totes almost overthrew teh govt you guys"

[@michaellee9926]

@@dw1419he’s an extremely out of touch government employee. It was honestly not a surprise that he’s been wrong about literally everything politically. In most cases he doesn’t know what the actual fuck he is talking about

[@Mj_Jetson]

1:48:55 on Bran's crooked legs, I think this is the quote: "Under the blanket, his legs bent in ways that made Jon sick" (Jon II AGoT). As far as I can tell, his legs are never described this way again? Maybe Luwin splinted them later, or maybe this is a mistake from GRRM 🤷‍♀

[@MC-el2us]

Yep he abandoned the idea I think I brought it back with Doran Martel. In fact I think he never even mentioned his legs atrophying either?

[@Mj_Jetson]

@@MC-el2us I think Luwin was able to deduce that Theon's Bran-body-double wasn't the real Bran because of the lack of leg atrophy: "The legs, I could tell . . . the clothes fit, but the muscles in his legs . . . poor lad . . ." (Bran VII ACoK) But after that, I think you're right, it isn't really mentioned. Hmmm interesting that GRRM brings that imagery back with Doran.

[@CosmicCorviknight]

Incredibly long summers would also be very bad for many real world plants and animals. E.g. Apple trees are very rare in the tropics as they need cold winter periods when then go dormant which triggers the process of blossoming and then producing apples. Unless Westerosi plant biology is very different apple trees would blossom at the start of Spring and produce apples a few months later and then you would get no more apples until a full summer and winter cycle has concluded (i.e. one apple crop every 4 to 18 years depending upon the Westerosi season lengths)

[@futbolnerd]

So on point I think PTSD lasts from 3 months to 6. Bro Preston is always in point wow.

[@CNTconnoisseur]

I think it's a Jon chapter where he sees Bran's legs twisted and mangled beneath the blankets.

[@marcnodine9259]

After the election comments people shouldnt take anything you say seriously. seem really out of touch

[@michaellee9926]

I mean people who share his opinion in the same manner are a large part of why they just got shit on in the election

[@ingolfringolfrson1577]

He’s BEEN out of touch, he’s been championing how the economy is doing so well and how we should all be grateful about it

[@michaellee9926]

@ yeah a little misleading saying it’s great and inflation is low but neglecting to mention prices have stayed the same and butter is $7

[@Mj_Jetson]

1:22:05 I think its fitting if Bran's original timeline looked a lot like Bloodraven's life? Maybe he went to court with Ned, and learned to play the game of thrones, eventually became Hand of the King for Joffrey, Myrcella, Tommen, Aegon, Dany or Viserys (anything and everything could be different in that timeline - perhaps no Wot5K, maybe no dragons hatching, etc?) Eventually he loses the game, gets sent to the Wall, rises to be Lord Commander and makes it to the cave. Also, Osha was probably part of an intermediate version of the plan? She was supposed to kidnap Bran, get him north of the Wall where Coldhands would pick him up... but it didn't work, so TTB had to sacrifice Robb and the people of Winterfell?

[@zeus000.00]

49:38 I agree. Mount Doom is it's colloquial name translated from Westron to English, it comes from Amon Amarth (hill, fate) in Sindarin or it's older name Orodruin (mountain, fiery red).

[@Samuel-lq7kp]

The flash freeze theory is actually amazing... Children magic + other's magic = wall magic

[@Samuel-lq7kp]

My idea is Other's magic runes using the black brother's vows as powers. There are many ideas.

[@TheKingOfRooks]

1:15:20 it would be cool to do another epilogue with Pate except the end with him "dying" is the faceless man undoing the disguise or taking on a new one and seeing the unforming process first hand

[@colincnote2120]

Idk 9 months in the wilderness after seeing magic ice shadows kill ur friends id be kinda incoherent too

[@jhgvi]

thanks for making the featured superchat bigger for my eyes

[@SHARKVADERS]

PJ IS BACK FOMOS

[@FlorianMark]

How often you have posted this now? I really want to know 😅

[@YarPirates-vy7iv]

​@@FlorianMarknot enough times imo

[@oculargoose7361]

SHARKVADERS SAYING PJ IS BACK FOMOS IS BACK FOMOS

[@masonrockwood7732]

Lame

[@RubiIax]

Hi Just checked and the Daeron~Dareon error does not appear in polish verision of AFFC.

[@blueblueread]

whats that pink stuff all over the microphone head

[@SuperWindsage]

someone said once Lord of the Rings, the entire story was done quicker less words then Twilight Books. he is SO much more efficient with things then say George.

[@admorewarhammer5141]

is that the actor for varys on webcam? is this deepfake?

[@kitkat6959]

The multi-year seasons are so irrelevant in the show I can't imagine it's anything but window dressing in the books as well. Which sucks.

[@itaipee]

Solution for the events phasing , is Dany landing in dragonstone is the last chapter in dream of spring

[@jasonpickering5288]

As for why Varys let Littlefinger lie about the dagger, doesn’t he want to destabilize the realm for Aegon’s invasion? A war between the Starks and Lannisters would do (and does) just that.

[@thezephyrchronicles2383]

3:01:10 😂 who’s here after the 4B movement has started.

[@umwha]

Preston raises a good point about how plants and animals survive multi year winters. I’ve also puzzled this and I can’t think how it would work. But earth has had ice ages before and hominids did survive the last ice age . So somehow, those Neanderthals did make it work, and the other animals. Homo sapiens I think we’re in Africa and the Middle East at this time so I’m not sure that they actually had to deal with ice age conditions

[@JimRFF]

The big difference is that glaciation conditions during an ice age happens extremely slowly, compared to Westeros' seasons... if everything was "normal" one year and then suddenly "a decade of glaciers" starting the next year, even the things that survived the peak of the last ice age would likely die out because they wouldn't have the same time to adapt

[@filbertrocko]

The stone beast I believe is the "dragon" Summer Saw during his POV.

[@chriss4001]

Carmine's xbox notifications going off in the background?

[@alialmuhanna4938]

1:10:10 Woah ! That came (no pun intended) out of nowhere.

[@clairethebreadfascist5753]

I tried to read ASOIAF following this timeline, but had to stop cause the Wayward Bride chapter is situated way tooo late, like multiple characters talk about events that happen in it before the chapter itself even happens

[@dannywolfe2258]

I have a question about kings guard and who can fight for a king? The mountain fights Oberon. But is not a kings guards but then needs to be a kings guard to defend cersi?

[@Piperdogloveshats]

1:26:22 I’m sorry but you are way over thinking and getting tunnel vision with the bran stuck in a pit… it sounds like the entire story is almost all a result of adult bran trying to escape a pit.. I’m sorry but that’s too much Love your stuff! Quentyn IS alive

[@jammysmears4077]

RE Gyles Rosby - Gyles is a common enough name in the UK. It's always pronounced Jyles.

[@iliaponomarev1624]

Rosby ward is the real Tommen Baratheon, not the imposter returned from there after Blackwater!

[@picklejarmonsterfanboy9367]

no, but seriously Preston, are you okay? it's gonna be alright, it's potentially gonna be only two years of republican rule, just win the midtearms

[@filbertrocko]

??? If Agon is Illyrio's son Why did he give the eggs to Dany. ???

[@Mj_Jetson]

I guess maybe he _did_ give the eggs the Aegon, years prior to AGoT, and when they didn't hatch, he had to come up with a Plan B? idk, Illyrio is such a tough character to analyze, since so much of what we know about him comes from AGoT, prior to GRRM coming up with Backfyres, JonCon, the Golden Company, etc. So... who knows how much of his AGoT characterization really makes sense anymore? For instance, son or no, we're pretty sure that he genuinely supports Aegon, right? In which case, it _still_ doesn't make sense that he'd give the eggs to Dany. My best guess is that Illyrio has a bunch of low-probability-of-success plans, and to double or triple his odds, he runs multiple plans simultaneously, even if the plans don't fit together and running several of them at once decreases the odds of each individual plan working. For instance, Plan 1 is marry Dany to Drogo, invade Westeros with the khalasar, destroy peace and stability in the realm, then take out Robert, Drogo and Viserys, have Aegon invade with the Golden Company like a hero and the lords of westeros flock to his banner begging for his help fighting the khalasars. Plan 2 is get Dany to hatch the eggs, then give the dragons to Aegon. It doesn't make too much sense, but its the best I can think of?

[@R0CKDRIG0]

Because he wasn't expecting them to actually come alive again.

[@filbertrocko]

Maybe. They needed a female?!?

[@LarthV]

Funny thing is, I actually think Trump probably _is_ pro abortion - if he personally cares at all. _But_ being against it publicly riles up his support, and he cares more about attention / support /approval than about abortion, so he will _act_ anti abortion regardless...

[@j-rey-]

Almost certainly. He has probably personally paid for many of them.

[@dw1419]

The entire campaign he has said it's a state issue not a federal one, which is what it always should have been. Even Ruth Bader Ginsberg stated Roe was bad law.

[@LarthV]

@@dw1419 That is definitely a point a lot of people on the left miss, and it certainly made this issue have less of a negative impact on his results than they anticipated - if your state has a vote on abortion in your state at the same time as the presidential election has, you can easily vote _pro_ abortion and still vote Trump in the presidential election, because you agree with his positions on other issues.

[@beckerjc]

You need to look up the difference between true AI and the market term AI that most people today use to refer to Large Language Models such as Chat GPT. Yes, large language models require vast amounts of data and are limited in some sense by this. But saying true AI a la Butlerian Jihad would be limited "by the number of internets" is just silly. There are different levels to what we consider artificial intelligence. True artificial intelligence would not be limited in the same way. And this type of intelligence is the end goal and will become more practical as technology improves and we finally get transistor size down to an atom at the end of Moore's Law. Or quantum computing- but this is some decades off but a real likelihood.

[@FullMetalElric]

If anything it just needs to get to a Sisyphean point and then any limitations would be addressed by itself. Past that point it could create the programming infrastructure AT THE SAME TIME as it's constructing the hardware that it would run on.

[@MJ1805]

I saw an image pop up during the stream, it's at 2:04:38 just as Carmine joined the chat, is this a photo of Carmine? It's kinda how I imagined him to look .

[@dw1419]

Not sure if you are being sarcastic, but that is the extremely famous photo of Tom from MySpace

[@whyismyricewet1986]

when winds chapter

[@alialmuhanna4938]

38:24 Woho ! 👍🏻

[@MC-el2us]

Oh no 😩 Gared wtf

[@picklejarmonsterfanboy9367]

Is making videos like smoking for Preston. Does he use it to calm himself from the eleection

[@alialmuhanna4938]

1:38:16 In absolute terms, yes that is true. However, one would be crazy to attempt it.

[@amandaofhouserobinson6707]

I thought the song was funny. Maybe I'm a simple person, it was something new! Lol ❤😊

[@acerunraldmage]

Are there squrells in Asoiaf?

[@memeaficionado]

They're mentioned, idk if we see any. Eddard even calls Bran a squirrel since he climbs so much

[@iliaponomarev1624]

One of them was even murdered, skinned, stewed and eaten in Tyrion II AGOT.

[@filbertrocko]

Btw. We are pregnant for 10 months. A healthy baby is born at 40 weeks not 36....

[@pragmaticduck1772]

40 weeks doesn't equal 10 months though. 4x7 is 28, apart from February and leap year stuff each month will have either 30 or 31 days. If you calculate by weeks 40x7 is 280, 10 months of the year is going to be over 300 days.

[@filbertrocko]

@pragmaticduck1772 well I'm a woman and a healthy child is born at 40 weeks go ask your gyn/obs

[@pragmaticduck1772]

@filbertrocko you've misunderstood what I wrote. I don't dispute 40 weeks being term. I dispute 40 weeks being 10 months. You being a woman is irrelevant to the discussion, your maths is simply wrong.

[@filbertrocko]

@pragmaticduck1772 no you're pregnant for 9 months plus the month you don't realize it. Correct and being a woman I think is relevant

[@filbertrocko]

@pragmaticduck1772 so 9 months equals 36 week correct. ,9*4=36 plus 4 weeks you don't know you're pregnant. At least all my female friends agree

[@iron_captain]

2:30:00 I think human conciusnes was a tragic misstep in evolution

[@hughmoore2143]

The tale of Bael the bard strongly implies that Mance is Jon’s father (M+L=J). There is certainly a lot of evidence that Mance *thinks* he is.

[@nobodycareswhatithink]

Are years 365 days?

[@picklejarmonsterfanboy9367]

Apparently, but that doesn't make sense unless this is a world settled by humans from Earth. Then again, the maesters, an ancient organization, counting years as before and after aegon doesn't make any sense either. The question is, do days last 24 hours. If they are longer it would make the under-age sex scenes a lot less creepy

[@alialmuhanna4938]

59:50 I know this is a fictional sci-fi / fantasy story with dragons and zombies, yet it seems unlikely that the Faceless Men would know the identity of Raff the Sweetling; that he is the particular individual Arya names every night. Maybe the Faceless Men just know that Arya wants to kill Lannister men and they got lucky with Raff being there.

[@makimasbrat5508]

i would die for hbo brienne gymrat gf

[@Azor19]

❤

[@profoundpronoun4712]

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[@bdfgdfghdfhgfitdfyutdtydry]

Trump 2024

[@dw1419]

In before Preston deletes this comment as he has previously declared F- you if you disagree with him politically and he wants you off his channel lol

[@LarthV]

Also, regarding the infamous "Mad Dany": Actually, what bothers me the most is the term "mad" in there. What we saw in the show, and what I expect, is not necessarily something that deserves the label "mad". Ruthless, possibly brutal, yes - but not mad. I mean, Roose Bolto, Tywin Lannister or Stannis Baratheon are not mad - because none of the cross the line of "violence for violence's sake" that Euron, Ramsay or Joffrey have crossed. And at least in the show, even "mad" Dany did not cross that line either in my eyes...

[@duckling3615]

She nuked a surrendering city... I know the bells shouldn't mean that but that's what the shows believes. How is thay not violence for the sake of violence?

[@LarthV]

@@duckling3615 Because the violence serves another purpose than just indulgence - vengeance comes to mind, but also the urge to prove a point that they should not have resisted to begin with. Now, neither is a _good_ reason imho, but but they were quite common in the past. In the books, Tywin essentially did it to King's Landing, while irl it was quite common, with Genghis Khan probably just the most notorious example. Neither would qualify as "mad". Villainous, yes, but not "mad".

[@duckling3615]

@LarthV Both your counter examples aren't similiar. Tywin did it to prove that he is with the rebellion. Genghis Khan did it as purposeful terror campaign. Dany doesn't seem to have had a specific reason. Especially not one consistent with her previous worldview. She destroys King's Landing out of madness exactly because there is no reason to it. Maybe she did some rationalisation afterwards but when she did it it was pretty clearly out of impulse. That's more mad even than what Ramsay does. Ramsay does his violence out pretty rational point of view. Sadistic egoism. It brings him satisfaction so he does it. Dany's burning of King's Landing had no apperent justification, no calculation and was out of character. That's madness. Perhaphs that's due to Dumb and Dumber's bad writing but she did violence of violence's sake, no personal satisfaction, no ruthless propaganda, no nothing

[@LarthV]

@@duckling3615 If I recall correctly, D&D specifically said that the sight of her ancient home defying and rejecting her so long was part o the reason for her doing it. So at least I understood it more so that she decided that this was the last time she would have somebody defy her, and that she would take revenge - with the welcome side effect that nobody ever would dare to defy her again. Btw. it clearly was out of impulse - but doing violent things out of impulse while otherwise being rather nice and compassionate had been kind of her thing all the time (Mirri Maz Duur, Xaro Xoan Daxos, Astapor, Meereen, etc.).

[@duckling3615]

@LarthV idk what DnD themselves said and idc, death of the author and all. At least with how I saw the scenes on screen, it was very random. I completely agree woth your secons part. Especially in the books it is shown that she is prone to impulsive acts of cruelty when cornered or doesn't know what to do. Which also fits because she is a child. Overall in the books I think she would be both more cruel (she will rely on "waking the dragon" within herself more) and less mad (she will justify it more internally and externally) than how I precieved her in the end of the show

[@TheOakleysworld]

49:00 I can't believe that nobody in chat said anything. It's outrageous that a sci-fi/fantasy channel community doesn't know that Mt. Doom is just the 'common' name. It's called Amon Amarth. Which is a thousand times cooler. Absolutely insane that Preston didn't know this, and nobody in the chat did either. I'm not even a big LotR fan. Not read any of the books. Just seen the movies. Shaking my damn head

[@PiepMiau04]

I think it's clear that many places have different names etc. The question is why Tolkien decided to use the english name for Mount Doom in the story. I can think of the grey havens as an other example. Mirkwood, Blue Mountains, misty mountains? Maybe the lonely mountain, but that's it. But Erebor is used as much I think. Oh and the shire of course. I think it's just that places have different names in different languages like in real life. And that Bilbo and Frodo wrote the red book in westron and Tolkien 'translated' it using the most common used names. Mt Doom is an important location and it sounds catchy, maybe that's all there is to it.

[@Blckrngr]

Preston, im not American and have (I think) a very superficial understanding of American politics. The election result. Explain. Please

[@maekarsmark5402]

Trump received more votes than Harris.

[@dw1419]

Preston is not a good source if you want to better understand, as shown by his predictions being so wildly off and his falling for so much disinfo from the left.

[@Kippiddy]

Better get ready for your meeting with the bobs preston, trump won

[@picklejarmonsterfanboy9367]

which bobs

[@Kippiddy]

@picklejarmonsterfanboy9367 office space reference

[@picklejarmonsterfanboy9367]

@@Kippiddy ahahaha, good one as a balkaner watching the seethe will be funny

[@n0bnarb98]

SHARKVADERS IS DEAD FOMOS?

[@SHARKVADERS]

SHARKVADERS IS ALIVE FOMOS

[@PhilHibbs]

Dareon/Daeron - old people get names muddled up all the time. Aemon made a mistake.

[@chriss4001]

2:56:00 finally an explanation as to what happened to the Kamala stream. Not that any of those donations mattered in the end. Fuck Trump. I give him 4 months.

[@picklejarmonsterfanboy9367]

Bro, hate him all you want he's gonna be there for 4 years and all the old conservative Chief Justices will be replaced with younger ones. Just hope the Democrats choose a more likable candidate next time.

[@bdfgdfghdfhgfitdfyutdtydry]

and in the next thought saying no one who supports trump will get laid when nearly half of all women voted for him, and he won the popular vote. preston is lost in his echo chamber.

[@carastone3473]

This is dumb

[@VMohdude-]

No

[@trippinzombiez]

lol what is?

[@donaldjgumpofficial5754]

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[@amandaofhouserobinson6707]

Lol ok! Your soooo cool ! 😎 well done!

[@trippinzombiez]

@@donaldjgumpofficial5754 conservative arguments be like *statement without context* *leaves* Ok then. Bye!