Wheel of Time Season 2 Ep. 7 with Amber from Road to Tar Valon

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The Wheel of Time is an American high fantasy television series developed by Rafe Judkins for Amazon Prime Video. The series is based on the novel series of the same name by Robert Jordan with Brandon Sanderson.
The first season, consisting of eight episodes, premiered on Prime Video on November 19, 2021, with the first three episodes released immediately and the remaining five on a weekly basis after that, culminating in the season finale on December 24, 2021. The series was renewed for a second season in May 2021, before the series premiered, which premiered on September 1, 2023. In July 2022, ahead of the second-season premiere, the series was renewed for a third season.
The Wheel of Time follows Moiraine, a member of the Aes Sedai, a powerful organization of women who can channel the One Power. With her Warder, Lan, she seeks a group of five young villagers from the secluded Two Rivers region of Andor following an attack on their village, believing one of them is the reincarnation of the Dragon, an extremely powerful channeller who broke the world. The Dragon Reborn is prophesied to either save the world from a primordial evil known as the Dark One, or break it once more.[1][2][3]
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[@jacobusficksmidt4177]

Preston really talks down towards WoT, but he clearly hasn't even tried to give it a try. Not knowing moraine was stilled?!! He doesn't give a shit

[@ltbraca470]

Moiraine and Lan going with Lafear through a way gate is like Jon and Ramsey teaming up.

[@admrob]

It's going to be a buddy comedy.

[@a.r11384]

It felt like they forgot to call out ‘cut’

[@janvancura8412]

Moiraine/Lanfear/Ran threesome

[@LoRe-nm8gd]

Considering Moraine killed her 2 eps ago, more like Jon and Ollie

[@80VAIN08]

I Love that this is the Moment preston realizes that moiraine didnt have any powers all season😂

[@KevinThornComedy]

Is Preston unable to pronounce the short "e" sound in Perrin's name?

[@a.k.summers5633]

The framing of Ishamael in the series is so great. And such a good casting.

[@magister343]

Ji'e'Toh is honor and obligation. One way this manifests in the taking of Gai'shain, "those sworn to peace in battle". Aiel earn honor and prestige for deeds in battle--or accumulate shame by misdeeds--but killing an opponent earns the least honor; "any child can kill". What earns the most honor is touching the opponent while they are holding a weapon, but without harming them, much like the practice of counting coup performed by the Native Americans. An Aiel so shamed is considered to have toh -- obligation -- to the person who touched them, and will march straight to that person and demand to be made gai'shain, at which point they don white robes, become that person's peaceful servant in all but name for a year and a day, and swear not to touch a weapon, or even defend themselves, during that time. Becoming gai'shain is a way to answer for toh; it is totally voluntary and can be used to atone for non-battle-related shaming as well. Gai'shain are not slaves, and any wetlander who suggests it is soon straightened out. Conversely, Aiel are horrified and confused by the concept of "servants", people who work throughout their life in the service of others. Wise Ones, children, pregnant women, women with a child under the age of ten, and blacksmiths cannot be taken gai'shain. No Aiel would dare harm Perrin if they learned his profession, because a quirk of their society is that they consider harming a Blacksmith to be morally equivalent to attacking an innocent baby. To them it makes perfect sense for a blacksmith to be a pacifist, although there is no shame in a smith fighting as there is in others fighting against a smith. Not all of the Aiel Wise Ones are channelers, but every channeler born among the Aiel is trained to become a Wise One. They have forgotten many of the weaves that the White Tower's Aes Sedai remember, but also remember many weaves that the Aes Sedai forgot. (Some even know how to Travel, opening portals to instantly take them any distance. They lack the strength to open a working portal, but can teach others how to do so.) Some Wise Ones are quite skilled in manipulating the World of Dreams, including some with no ability to channel in the real world. The Aes Sedai have hierarchy and judge each other by their relative strengths in the power, but Wise Ones do not. Wise Ones are officially all equals, but they tend to defer to those of their peers with the more forceful personalities regardless of relative magical power.

[@bshaddo]

The Light must be malevolent if the desert-dwellers are all born ginger.

[@peterg9729]

They're tinkers who abandoned the Way of the Leaf when they moved into The Three Fold Land after the Breaking of the World. They didn't evolve as desert people.

[@gokbay3057]

@@peterg9729 Saying they are Tinker's aren't really accurate. There were the original Aiel who followed the Way of the Leaf. First the group that would later become the Tinkers left, they recruited other people so did not keep the red-hair look but kept the Way of the Leaf. While most of the Aiel with the exception of a single clan that later died out became desert warrior people while keeping the red hair as they were isolated from other people.

[@janvancura8412]

This is coming from a someone who only watched the show If I was at Rand's place I would offered Lanfear a deal something aloung the lines of "I am thinking of joining you, but I won't join you when Ishamael exist" and ask if it is possible to permakill him

[@Lucy-wm4lt]

You're lucky to not have had your heart broken outside of romantic relationships lol, in my experience platonic friend breakups can hurt waaaaay more

[@randylahey345]

Girls lmao, you can’t even trust each other.

[@Elriquee1]

Be serious

[@SHARKVADERS]

PJ IS BACK FOMOS

[@javonlyons3368]

Preston??? Wheel of time??? Based

[@ryanratchford2530]

Maybe another factor in the lesbian witch trope (which is present in loads of myths and folklore) might come from an anti-patriarchal role powerful women find themselves in these stories and legends.

[@johnnyskinwalker4095]

yea it's like the auteurs sees men as poison lol

[@inkumbinkumdinkumdoo]

Seeing Preston Jacobs draw the fufu out is wild.

[@PrestonJacobstheSweetrobin]

There is a subtle difference between fufu and to

[@kushalkarmodiya]

For someone who is a ‘book expert’ she sure doesn’t know much about them.

[@khomo12]

Haha, very entertaining!👍👍👍Pretty great episode, from a non-bookreader!🎡🎡🎡⌚️⌚️⌚️

[@evancappello9288]

Never read the books, does Ishmael keep his power; or anyone for that matter, if the wheel breaks??

[@feral7523]

Awesome episode imo

[@liberTvalance]

Garreth brinn says siuan isnt gay.

[@aldan7812]

** BOOK SPOILERS ** . . . . . Thom has a little something to say about Mo as well I would think.

[@nikmede]

Bisexuality does exist lol. That said, RJ said that pillow friends are a sexual relationship, so Siuan and Moirane did have one

[@aldan7812]

@@nikmede True, it does but - they had a fling while stuck in a nuns convent then finished their time and went back to normal is probably a more accurate way to describe this particular relational situation in the lore I would say.

[@liberTvalance]

@@nikmede I think some of you want to read more into pillow friends than what he meant. Just because chicks do some kissing in college doesn't mean they're gay. But enjoy this fan fiction show where everyone is gay, bi, and whatever else. LOL.

[@liberTvalance]

@@aldan7812 Yea except they killed off Thom is season 1 of this fan fiction. LOL.

[@FateHasWritersBlock]

Unrelated but are you and Carmine going to do a Gen V podcast?

[@kyleholmes8230]

It might be the camera perspective, but Preston has a tiny head for having such a huge brain.

[@PrestonJacobstheSweetrobin]

It’s the perspective. People say I have an oversized head.

[@kyleholmes8230]

@@PrestonJacobstheSweetrobin that's even funnier. Lol

[@peterg9729]

He has both a tiny head and a tiny brain.

[@Just_Pele]

Awful adaptation, very disappointing.

[@harsh_1910]

Then don't watch it or videos about lol you'll be happier

[@Just_Pele]

@@harsh_1910 Then don't reply to my comments, if they make you butthurt, you'll be happier.

[@harsh_1910]

@@Just_Pele well it's quite clear who's butthurt, I am happy that's why I'm advising you to be happy

[@Just_Pele]

@@harsh_1910 We certainly can see, proven by the fact you couldn't just move on when you saw my comment. 🤨😆

[@harsh_1910]

@@Just_Pele idk what those two have to do with each other but okay, whatever makes you happy, and this comment might make you unhappy given how I didn't get animated and angry like you wanted so sorry for that

[@a.k.summers5633]

Lanfear's dommy outfit is the absolute worst thing about season 2 so far.

[@rodstone1597]

best*

[@tropicthndr]

It’s done, and has already run its course, I’m fast forwarding the thing now just to get past all the dumb girly soap opera crap, which is most of it now. It’s started out really really good, but now it has worn out the same old theme too much. Ugh just can’t watch it anymore.

[@jonahdav9589]

Rand is the Jake Skywalker sea cow blue milk throw away the light saber loser non main character in Rafe Leeroooy Jenkins hate letter to Robert Jordan. This show is 90 percent changes 10 percent using the right names and sometimes a location. Rand never sleeps with Lanfear. Moraine is not shielded and is not "gay" she and Thom have a relationship at the end of the books. You read the books right? Or did you do like a Rafe level reading of the books when you say you read the books but you really hate them? There is no mystery box it can be a girl but at least now with Verin and Siuan using the male pronounces we know the showrunners cannot even stay true to their tv cannon. The Amyrlin Seat was not blind, and that scene should have been one in winter. Moraine never has a fourth oath to Siuan. Moraine never teams up with Lanfear and Lanfear would have dream walked or traveled with inverted weaves instead of used the ways. Rand is never shielded and never trained by Logain. And he actually gets sword training by Lan but not in this hate you letter by Rafe. Mat is not a loser, he has past lives where he a general not a murderer. The list goes too long into the 10s of thousands at this point. This is not Robert Jordans Wheel of Time. It is written by shallow people who envy their betters and by that envy hate the actual source material. Who are the fans of this hate letter? 1984 compulusion NPCs.

[@ognjengaric2687]

Stop moaning about every change, there may be a lot of them, but not all are bad.

[@kushalkarmodiya]

The show is a fan fiction made for people who have just heard of the books but haven't really read them.

[@saintsavage1335]

WWW W PRESTOOOOOOOOOOON

[@nasiknosik]

Is this how Preston watches everything that is not part of his hyper fixation, with him not realising Moiraine had no powers during the whole season despite characters mentioning it several times? Made me laugh tnx

[@thedanielhicks]

Yeah my draw dropped when he said that, I can't see how he missed that.

[@Evan-gi1hs]

i mean, it's a boring ass storyline. pretty easy to overlook if you're dosing off through the scenes.

[@bastianschrderlarsen6059]

Liandrin is trouble with a capital T that rhymes with P that stands for pool!

[@admrob]

The ishy actor is good

[@fleshbhones]

Great idea getting other specialized channels in for chats. I love meeting someone who's as obsessed with something as I am with ASOIAF and having them guide me into that world.

[@joell21]

Dude, the world of the wheel of time is so fun and good. Almost up there with one piece honestly

[@lightblindedfool9510]

Barthanes the sandwich maker lol - hope he likes his new skinsuit. 😀

[@kimberblair4825]

I don’t know how you manage to have such good input without talking about what happened in the books. It’s still very intriguing dialog without it.

[@LordAngie]

Preston gotta give the season a rewatch 😂

[@LoRe-nm8gd]

TBH even if selene/lanfear didnt come up clutch at the end, Rand's escape was caused by her ruckus in the first place. So those 300 wouldn't die in vain regardless. Yay!

[@lane1776]

Kinda funny... Both the women end up with men at the end....sooooo.... they aren't "gay" fooled around with each other, sure. Not...gay. sorry gal- you need to reread

[@kimberblair4825]

Siuan and Moraine didn’t “just” fool around. They had a relationship and they lived together in the White Tower in New Spring. They married men at the end of the series so they would be considered bisexual.

[@woodjt5]

Preston, my man, you skipped the best episode of the season!

[@XDivineSouljax]

They do alternating episodes on each channel. The other episodes are on her channel

[@a.k.summers5633]

I think we needed one more scene with Moraine and Siuan earlier in the season for the scene to really throw sparks in the way this episode was set up, but I also think the actors brought it home. I think Lan's arch was worse?

[@fernandomacias2889]

Did you guys do episode 6 I did not see it

[@somegenerichandle]

I'm glad you brought up the 'lesbian witch" trope. I read these books so many times. And i never thought these women were into each other like this. And i am a WLW. 'pillow friends' are close friends who tell each other secrets. Jordan had no gay characters, that's why Sanderson added a couple 🤦🏾‍♀I think making them sexual lessens their relationship. A lot of people are closer to their friends than their spouses. They do use the word stilling several times so far this season. Did they explain what it meant for non-book readers? While Morraine is agonizing over those letters she brings it up.

[@roadtotarvalon]

"Pillow friends are not just good friends. Oh, they are that, too, but they also get hot and sweaty together and muss up the sheets something fierce. By the way, pillow friends is a term used in the White Tower. The same relationship between men or women elsewhere would be called something else, depending on the country." [The Official Robert Jordan Blog, September 30, 2005]

[@lane1776]

​@@roadtotarvalonhowever- both F dudes at the end. Sooooo.... not gay

[@peterg9729]

Pillow friends are LUGS at university. Not real lesbians.@@roadtotarvalon

[@roadtotarvalon]

@@lane1776 My dearest Jonathan. I'd really hate to be the very first person in your life to explain how bisexuality works, because that wouldn't be embarrassing at all 🥴

[@jonahdav9589]

Moraine never would have used the word "stilling" in book lore because she merely had a tied off shield and would have been able to sense the source. These showrunners are shallow children who hate Robert Jordan and could not hold their attention long enough to actually read the source material.

[@peterg9729]

Has that woman even read the books? Siuan spends page after page after chapter after chapter endlessly lusting after Gareth Byrne. They were even engaged. Not gay at all.

[@kimberblair4825]

New Spring definitely describes a romantic relationship between Siuan and Moraine. Yes, they both marry a man so they would be considered bisexual. It was published in 2004 😅