The DRAMA Filled Past of Monstera Obliqua | Pretty in Green Documentary

[@prettyingreen]

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[@leathjurca]

Please do more of this

[@ChynelHall]

Love this series, and strong influence! Really appreciate the efforts towards research to ensuring transfer of creditable knowledge. Thanks for taking us on the journey with you and sharing insights! After watching this I totally wanted to buy one, and it continues to cross my mind.

[@GB-vw6kr]

PLEASE DO MORE OF THESE!!! There's SO much out there on plant scams just like this (alocasia Jacklyn I'm looking at you) and also with people illegally poaching aroids from different countries and protected habitats and reselling them for exorbitant prices, leading to increases of endangering plant species and habitats.

[@armandomeza6387]

Wait what’s wrong with the alocasia jacklyn? I was thinking of getting one

[@prettyingreen]

Ooooo interesting about Alocasia Jacklyn! I'll have to do some research for her :) Thank you for the suggestion!

[@you_gullible_fucc]

​@@armandomeza6387allegedly it was poached from a country in southeast asia (maybe indonesia but I can't remember) and was named after said poacher hence "Jacklyn". Its real name is Alocasia tandurusa

[@SteraFaux]

​@@armandomeza6387it's allegedly poached.

[@carlyhatchell5027]

THIS is the discussion of houseplant ethics and drama that I have been searching for! Instant subscriber❤

[@prettyingreen]

Thank you 🙏 😊

[@jillflannigan1828]

Right??? It's a great lesson in free market economics (Supply and Demand), regulation, and ethics.

[@mateusz1585]

I love this type of videos! I’ve always been interested in the history of house plants and how they were introduced, and it seems like there is not much stuff like this on yt. Great work!

[@charliblake8551]

Ah yes, the merging of my two current favorite things…house plants and DRAMA/shade!! I will mainline any of these video you make. Well done sir🫡

[@donnettadaniels7926]

Wow! Great story. More please!

[@katiewilliams9273]

I really liked this. I love learning more about plants any and all plants, especially the one we buy for our homes . Thank you for sharing

[@prettyingreen]

So nice of you! Thank you for watching!

[@wisconsinaquatics]

I love these plant scam videos! My wife formerly not interested in houseplants is now drooling over large philodendron with me! Keepemcomin

[@LyndaMargaret]

Amazing. 👍 I always liked watching your on-camera videos but your voice is your gift. It’s just a fact.

[@aroidpapa]

I just regret paying £450 for a 1 leaf cutting that I ended up killing 6 months later. I got another one this year because I like the plant for £27 and I feel like a complete tool paying what I paid 2 years ago.

[@prettyingreen]

Ahhh don’t beat yourself up! Everyone has a story like that from 2020 😅

[@heysfb]

You absolutely should feel like a tool, and a failure. And you’re a tool for still wanting one. Your plants are bad and you should feel bad.

[@heysfb]

@@prettyingreen no everyone does not. Don’t lump everyone in with this kind of stupidity.

[@monas.6839]

I learned more watching two of your videos than I’ve learned from the hundreds of others I’ve watched…I sure wish other plant YT’rs would create more educational content with actual facts (or at least more informative instead of “look at my new milsbo cabinet”) like this. Subscribed!

[@yetanotherhuman1145]

This was a really interesting video!!! I dont know much about plants as im still extremely new, but my gosh i didnt realize how interesting the drama in the plant community could be!!!

[@israelM4470]

Incredible video! You've struck gold with this content idea! Please keep these coming.

[@theresa_mit_h]

I bought a Peru about 1,5 month ago for 70€ at a plant pop up sale. I observed all the craziness during the pandemic and the prices blew my mind. I got really turned off by them. But for that price I couldn’t leave it there and I truly enjoy it now. In my opinion it’s not that difficult at all. I’m keeping it under a grow light next to a diffuser and it’s doing great and the third new leave is already on it‘s way. It‘s unbelievable that my plant would sell for thousands of dollars two years ago 🤯 Thanks for tue great video! I just binged all your drama videos. Love them! ❤ subbed

[@andremota6162]

These mini docs are turning out amazing!

[@natashaburgoyne8491]

I love these plant docs!!! Thanks so much for everything you put into them and presenting them in such a great way. Looking forward to more :)

[@prettyingreen]

Ahhh thank you, Natasha! I really enjoy making them. Working on Thai Constellation right now!

[@HipyoTech]

This has gotta be one of the hyped plants I understand the least, it straight up gives huge trypophobia vibes

[@prettyingreen]

I think I might have that thing. Things with holes in specific shapes make me feel sick 🤢 Obliqua always looks like it’s gonna die too

[@diannenaworensky6698]

I really enjoyed this video. The history is very interesting. The "price fixing" is even more interesting. There always seems to be someone out there willing to take advantage. I just buy what I like. Never just had to have something just because it was a "fad". I have subscribed for more content like this. Thanks !!!!

[@4ll4ll]

PLEASE MAKE MORE OF THESE HOLY SHIT THIS IS ENTERTAINING!

[@robintucker9057]

I appreciate the amount of work that goes into these. Great job and thank you!

[@LydiaChanNYC]

Yes, MORE PLANT DOCS PLEASE!

[@bohobabie5987]

I think I speak for everyone in the plant community…you are doing the Lord’s work with these vids. Thank you

[@Firldnehdldmdbd]

Subscribed. Found you from your drama filled past video. Love❤

[@prettyingreen]

Thank you!!! I appreciate it 🤗

[@aburningbear3138]

Absolutely fantastic video! I hope you do more!

[@dangabrieltorres1964]

I love love these series! I got hooked on the sprites sancti vid you did haha

[@S3b1n0]

please more of these. they are pretty interesting

[@prettyingreen]

Will do!!! I appreciate you watching 😄

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Immediately subscribed!! I love these types of videos 🙌🏼

[@prettyingreen]

Thank you!!

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Absolutely fantastic!! We want moorrrrrreeeeee

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Dang, this is some high quality content! Your channel needs more recognition! 👏🌱

[@carolstuff]

I enjoy these videos. Thanks!

[@manjuk1708]

Wow. People buying are crazy. Sellers would always be there. I love plants. But it is to be part of their growth journey that satisfies me. It could be a free cutting or a $5 plant. Infact I don't buy plants with loads of tantrums or high prices. For me monstera adansonii is so cool. Why even bother for obliqua.

[@alexg.5850]

Drama and plants, this is my dream channel

[@silviap4478]

I love videos like this. Thank you for all this research ❤

[@prettyingreen]

Glad you like them!! They’re fun to make 😄

[@xailywarmslush2319]

Great video love the vibe! I hope you do more like this!

[@prettyingreen]

Thank you!! I am 😄 Thai con might be next!

[@KathyGallagher01]

Really enjoying this “series” thank you 😊

[@prettyingreen]

So glad! Thank you for watching!!

[@joehisel5966]

Please make more of these videos.

[@Plantdadsdiary]

Great video! Loving the series so far!

[@richardr5878]

Excellent video. Now, if only I could take my collection back to 2020! 😅

[@prettyingreen]

Thank you!!

[@JoaoRodca]

I was just gifted an oblíqua. When I got into plants back in 2021 this would be simply unheard of

[@prettyingreen]

Agreed!

[@mickiteoxon]

I really like this, they selling this obliqua way too high before. Others said they have the only rare specimen during the plantdemic😂

[@alltheplantbabies]

great job with these videos! So educational and entertaining !

[@prettyingreen]

Thank you!!!!

[@MonsteraKarma]

Love this! The drama in the plant groups alone. One of the bigger bst going political and kicking half the group. Wow.

[@reyhosein2533]

I completely got turned off after the value of a couple "rare plants" I bought drastically dropped in price, I'm NEVER EVER AGAIN paying anything near a premium price for a plant, THEY WILL ALL DROP IN PRICE, look at spiritus sancti now lol, just be patient and you'll own all the "rare plants" you want.😁😁

[@Black_Jack_AOS]

Another great hit!

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Thank you!!! ☺️

[@shewhoknowszz]

Amazing work! Love that my country (Surinam) was mentioned 🌱

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this is fantastic • thank you for making it! subscribed!

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So glad you enjoyed! Thank you for the sub 🙌

[@TadashiHD]

Nice video .. again! Would like to see one about the Thai constellation.

[@prettyingreen]

Thank you! Thai is definitely on the list 😊

[@TadashiHD]

@@prettyingreen first the monster obliqua video and now the tai con video!! thanks allot for the great video!

[@strayargus9382]

Damn that’s crazy! I never knew they were that expensive! I am selling a rooted cutting for $30 here xD

[@lisawagner6076]

I never understood the lure of the Oblique. It looks like it's got some nasty disease to me. I did pay $250 for a rootless, mid cut of a Monstera Albo a few years ago. That was the most I ever spent on any plant. But I did learn a very important lesson: I get just as happy watching my "cheap" plants grow as I do the expensive ones. My Albo is doing fantastic, I was even able to share a cutting with my daughter, but I won't pay that much for a plant again.

[@Brian-qn2mx]

I grow mine in room humidity and it grows fast I got mine for 15 and yes it’s obliqua and I sold a cutting and people thought I was insane for selling it for 5 bucks and they thought it was still thousands of dollars lol

[@motorcyclethaitop]

Thank you for sharing ❤

[@valerieclark5695]

Thank you so much for your historical series, I watched your previous one also. I bought a P. Birkin long after its peak price and was very surprised to learn that there had been some scandal about them. Birkins are very easy to grow and I really enjoy mine, but when I tried to research their early history I couldn't find anything about them on the internet. Do you know anything?

[@eisiau]

i don't know if this is the scandal you're thinking of or if there was something else, but the birkin is an unstable mutation of the rojo congo. at the height of the birkin's popularity and rarity (and price) i do know there was some upset about people's birkins reverting to the (at the time) much more common and much less expensive rojo congo. not so much an issue now that both plants are very cheap.

[@reubendaly827]

It's a shame that the Bolivian form got overshadowed so drastically, it's a beautiful plant in its own right, like a monstera version of philodendron lehmanii!

[@leoi3031]

Bolivan form is funny. In the jungles down here there is so much variation

[@reubendaly827]

@@leoi3031 awesome!

[@wandashaw3551]

Amazing and unbelievable 😮. Thank you, and let's hope this will not happen again.

[@prettyingreen]

Thank you for watching early 😄🌱

[@Dan-yh8qp]

It is so incredibly similar to Adonsonii I can't believe people paid so much for that!

[@sarapoole5578]

and now costa farms added it to their trending tropicals!! which i’m guessing means it’ll be in big box stores soon … UGH

[@shellym79]

I love these videos ty. Is there a reason monstera deliciosa albos are still so high? Why do i see tissue culture for Thais everywhere but not albos? Is the demand still that high after all this time? I was waiting for the price to come down, it did a little, then went back up again. 😒

[@XBOSHIFY443]

albos will never be as cheap as thai cons because their variegation is different. albos do not have stable variegation like thais do which is why thais can be so easily tissue cultured. essentially so long as albos are remotely popular, they will be expensive because creating supply for them is much harder and takes longer.

[@shellym79]

@@XBOSHIFY443 ty

[@prettyingreen]

On point!

[@prettyingreen]

@shellym79 yup it’s all to do with lack of stability of variegation on albo. I grow both, and can produce Thai much cheaper

[@jillflannigan1828]

I'm not sure the world is ready, but you need a talent agent and your own TV show.

[@joeltownley8037]

Needa sent me a load of nodes to the uk i was selling them For £150 and people were freaking out . In a bad way. This was a few months before the famous post she made.😊

[@mindyourplants]

I thought the holy grail of aroids was Spiritus Sancti, like literally.

[@XBOSHIFY443]

P. spiritus sancti was definitely always a step above, but about four years ago M. obliqua "Peru" was a pretty close second and was fetching higher prices in certain auctions.

[@prettyingreen]

It definitely translates as that and was that for sure. Some ppl call Obliqua that. TBH I copied the title of the PSS vid from last week when I finished at 5am 😂

[@txoovlouquieusvaj]

Just wanna also add that it's not a finicky plant that requires crazy high humidity lol

[@you_gullible_fucc]

Not anymore, but it used to be that way. I don't know if it has to do with tissue culture but the plant that most people have right now seems to be hardier

[@prettyingreen]

I’ve also heard this too! I haven’t pinned down the care perfectly, but I’d say it’s an average challenge and average grower

[@missellehansen]

Some real tulip market drama.

[@thebedroombotanist6450]

If that’s who I think it is, I used to admin that group because I loved the species but it took a hard turn into a scheme, that and the way she treated respected members of the community was enough for me to block her and dip out

[@leoi3031]

Seen many in the wild here in costa rica

[@nandomasnanda1364]

Do a history of anthurium papillilaminum sp.

[@angle7341]

can you do a video on the vickilaminum controversy that happened a while ago

[@Southern.Nappiness]

I love these videos.❤ There's more drama in the plant community than Bitcoin.😂😂😂

[@sgwinn82]

How do you know if what you're getting is actually an obliqua?

[@demidron.]

0:13, 3:09 You can't believe a receipt. In about 1997, I bought a Monstera adansonii that came with the label "Monstera obliqua expilata" and I'm sure that's what was on the receipt too. It's still kicking around at my parents' place and it is definitely just a typical M. adansonii ssp. laniata. If M. obliqua really had been around in private collections for decades, we should expect to find quite large, clumps of it in some collections that could not have grown in the last few years since they became more available ... unless they all died or got cut up for propagation during the craze, but then those who did that would have made a lot of money and we'd hear stories about it. Anyway, all this stuff makes me really angry. These people this documentary is about are not plant lovers - just greedy capitalists. I'm so glad that tissue culture has made the prices of the most popular plants come crashing down so that people can actually own them and we can see them around more.

[@1marcelo]

I think the most horrifying thing in the obliqua story is that Kaylee Ellen pronounces it oblikah

[@TamarindX]

I got the juvenile *peruvian* *_M. obliqua_* for $7 in June 2023 HAHAHAHA

[@ZeddMT2]

and all for a plant with so many holes most of what you're paying for is literal air

[@t00194]

This is even funnier to watch in mid 2024, when I can get a proper Obliqua plant (and yes it's really obliqua) in my backwards country, with 4 nice leaves, around $25.

[@prettyingreen]

Love to hear that! It's about same price in the US now too!

[@jhndr0nia]

Epipremnum pinnatum (which literally means pinnate) might not be the best comparison to a non-fenestrated plant with an entire leaf

[@pennymayo2332]

Interesting !

[@Purwapada]

i never bought a single aroid because im waiting until they are everywhere and the price is negligible lol

[@travisthesutherland]

This account got me all excited about plants. What’s up with that? It’s like CSI plant edition. People be trippin. #fauxbliqua#fibliqua #sixbliqua

[@victorbroken0012]

Just came from the tik tok 🎉

[@karianngardenguru]

show us your obliqua!

[@jessicabey275]

Alocasia frydek var. Is beautiful but I'm not paying that kind of money.

[@Unkn0wn1133]

Euphoria in 2020 lol

[@deepqwave9594]

I think "rare plant" prices need to be regulated.

[@prettyingreen]

Hmmm interesting. In the same way I don’t agree with withholding supply to keep prices up, I don’t agree with adjusting supply in collusion to regulate prices. I think the price of Obliqua taught us things always come back to “normal”

[@komalthecoolk]

This video shows people are crazy.

[@1BergerVongSchlauigkeitHer]

>investment plant Ugh.

[@_91K_]

I'm 30 seconds into the video. Its sad to see you Americans like this. Obliqua (real one) is USD20 in my country. Its not that rare.

[@prettyingreen]

Oh yeah, same prices here now!