Price and Joy: They Aren't the Same | The Unexpected Direction My Collection is Heading (for now)

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Degenerate Watch Addict

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@KrystianWlr 5 ай бұрын

This is watch hobby stripped out of marketing and hype. Well said!

@degenerateWA 5 ай бұрын

Appreciate the positive feedback🍻

@robbied4766 5 ай бұрын

My 160 dollar Gshock that i bought in 2010 saved my arm from being pinched between two large items at work. It saved me due to its thickness and durability. I'll forever owe Casio my support and love and still wear my Gshock that saved me decade and half later. Even over my Rolex.

@degenerateWA 5 ай бұрын

That's awesome, good stuff🍻

@Msgt_Slim 5 ай бұрын

Great freaking video, Sir! Always remember, inexpensive watches keep getting better, while expensive watches keep getting more expensive...

@degenerateWA 5 ай бұрын

Ha! That's a good way to put it🍻

@matricious 5 ай бұрын

Would have never though an Invicta would catch my eye, well done.

@degenerateWA 5 ай бұрын

Men of culture, welcome🤝🍻

@johansaravia8580 5 ай бұрын

I love your opinion on what wearing a watch experience should be. I feel exactly the same

@degenerateWA 5 ай бұрын

Men of class, welcome🍻🍻

@Nefville 5 ай бұрын

A few years ago I was browsing Ebay when I saw an $80 Orient 3 Star with a turquoise dial I liked. I have lots of watches, some of which were several thousand dollars, but there is something about this $80 Orient that just endeared it to me and ever since it's been my most worn watch. I'll rotate through my other watches on my left wrist but the right always has the Orient on it. Its been over 3 years and its still an absolute joy to have. It really shocked me, I was just kind of getting into the luxury side of the hobby and the groups I was in, everyone was trending higher priced and I was amazed that such a cheap watch could give me so much enjoyment so much so that I really had to rethink my priorities after getting it. You definitely have a point here.

@degenerateWA 5 ай бұрын

I completely understand that. I hope the takeaway here to others isn't that cheaper watches are better. Like you, I simply enjoy these ones far more than the expensive ones. And who knows, maybe that will change in the future. For now, I'm enjoying this and if anyone else can hear the message then that's cool too🍻

@chriskilner4110 5 ай бұрын

I totally agree with you on price not equating with joy, and on the joy of having a different collection. My wife gave me a Seiko mechaquartz chronograph years ago that I found difficult to see the hour and minute hands on - so I replaced them with more legible hands and have a one-of-a-kind watch that I love. My G-Shock MTG M900 often felt heavy, so I replaced the bracelet with a resin band from a GW-M500 for another unique watch. I've also embraced the jangly bracelet on my Invicta Pro Diver 1953, and got the Batman-bezel version for a pop of color... and don't get me started on how comfy and rugged a cheap Casio W219H ($16.88!) can be when doing chores.

@degenerateWA 5 ай бұрын

You and I are on the same wavelength🍻

@BaradovaTV 5 ай бұрын

Great storytelling as always! I've developed a similar passion for this hobby, all started with the desire for the fairly expensive Brosnan-era 007 Omega watches, but now the it has evolved for me where I find more joy in collecting humble pieces like Invicta, Orient, AliEx champs like Cronos, and Thorn (Especially the Steel bezel BB58 homage you reviewed last year, which I still consider as a beast of a watch 🎖)

@degenerateWA 5 ай бұрын

I do think it's important to experience a higher-priced watch at least once, to know for sure if you're missing out on anything or not. It was important for me, but I'm glad to know for sure 🍻

@jackmcclary2136 5 ай бұрын

Lazy Sunday afternoon goodness. My first down day in eight and I found this video rewarding me for slowing down.

@degenerateWA 5 ай бұрын

That's awesome man, good to hear you were able to get some down time🍻

@DH-sz7yu 5 ай бұрын

Same here.

@gadgetbeacon 5 ай бұрын

Totally agree with the sentiment. Some great shots of the Sound too

@degenerateWA 5 ай бұрын

Right on🍻

@thegorn 4 ай бұрын

Good chat. Watch incels are owned by their collections, and always seek validation by buying hype watches. Watch Chads avoid hype and set their own path. I put new hands on one of San Martins and love the new look. I've changed movement and crystals on my SKX. I've changed dials on some Steeldive shitter. I put another San Martin (this one unmolested by me) next to my 10 thousand dollar JLC in my watch box. My collection is just that - my collection - so I'll do the fk what I want with it, and I absolutely love what I have - everything from budget to top tier, and everything in between. It's Marie Kondo on steroids - everything sparks joy and the price tag is irrelevant to that. You hit that nail right on the head.

@degenerateWA 4 ай бұрын

Nothing better than a collection that doesn't fit the hype narrative.

@johnrb9397 5 ай бұрын

I would say that you find thecSan Martin mod watch liberating for several reasons. One it’s a design you like, 2 you can freely use it since it is not a $6k watch, 3 you have expensive watches so you don’t have that lust when it comes to something expensive or exotic. Watches need only be comfortable and read the time.

@degenerateWA 5 ай бұрын

That's spot on. Get out of my head💯

@CarsonLoewe 5 ай бұрын

Brother, your best vid to date. It resonated with me. Keep bangin'.

@degenerateWA 5 ай бұрын

Means a lot, much appreciated 🍻🤝

@DoctoredGinst 5 ай бұрын

Well said. Your comments ring very sound with the reasonable and sensible among us.

@degenerateWA 5 ай бұрын

Hear hear!🍻🤝

@christianaviles2199 5 ай бұрын

That Vostok makes me want a Panerai. I miss when San Martin allowed for some customization of watches.

@degenerateWA 5 ай бұрын

I say go for it, Panerai watches are great👌

@russelldow1131 5 ай бұрын

I love microbrands. Bronze, titanium,SS , Damascus cases. Onyx, MOP,carbon,adventurine and many other dial choices for a great price and quality. Makes collecting fun and affordable.

@degenerateWA 5 ай бұрын

It's gotta be enjoyable 100%🍻

@ant1007 5 ай бұрын

Love your collection. That San Martin mod, is my kind of watch, looks amazing.

@degenerateWA 5 ай бұрын

Right on man, good to hear🍻

@jimmeyer803 5 ай бұрын

Just like everything else in life if it makes you happy then that shitty bracelet is a great one. It's what makes us happy. Thanks for the Reality check brother! 💥👍

@degenerateWA 5 ай бұрын

Right on bro🍻

@johanvandersandt8904 5 ай бұрын

Its a sounds philosophy to have my friend. We often put our value in the opinions of other. You like it, you wear it! I have found that the more expensive my watches the more I worry about scratching them and them being stolen. I think even if you only have these watches it would be enough and it would be great! You have made these watches your own and they are awesome! Hope you have a great weekend Bro!

@degenerateWA 5 ай бұрын

You and I are always on the same wavelength🤝🍻

@johanvandersandt8904 5 ай бұрын

@@degenerateWA Thank you for the compliment my friend! I hope you have a great week ahead!

@degenerateWA 5 ай бұрын

@@johanvandersandt8904 same to you brotha

@johanvandersandt8904 5 ай бұрын

@@degenerateWA 💪💪

@djar220 5 ай бұрын

Great video and collection. That bracelet on the Vostok is killer!

@degenerateWA 5 ай бұрын

Dude, I knew right away that's the combo I wanted. That was one of the driving forces of me buying that watch, because I thought it would look so good on the Retro Razor bracelet.

@CheJoffre 5 ай бұрын

Love the straight end retro razor bracelet! I have one on a gilded Seiko turtle with an Arabic day wheel and it looks amazing!

@degenerateWA 5 ай бұрын

Excellent, great choice👌

@garethhanna9173 5 ай бұрын

I'm with you on the Dress KX, stick it on a Strapcode bracelet and it will be pretty much the perfect watch. I put my Orient Kamusa on a Strapcode bracelet and now have a perfect dive watch for what is chump change in watch collecting circles.

@degenerateWA 5 ай бұрын

There's nothing better than that man👌

@RenghisKhan 5 ай бұрын

So did I. Red Kamasu with a Rollball bracelet. Awesome combi. Waiting for my first San Martin now, the Red Dune S0129 three hander. Bought during the sale for €199. Can't wait to see if it is as good as San Martin watches are said to be.

@markthomas741 4 ай бұрын

They're all great watches, but I really like the Pamphibia more.

@edwardfletcher7790 5 ай бұрын

Love the 70's style bracelet on your Vostok 👍😁 I've got one of those ultra chunky $10 AliExpress Shark mesh bands on my Black/Red Radio room and the other 3 I own.... LoL 😉

@degenerateWA 5 ай бұрын

Very nice. That bracelet was the driving force for me to buy the Amphibia; I thought they would look so good together and turns out I was right.

@edwardfletcher7790 5 ай бұрын

@@degenerateWA You've got excellent design aesthetics, all your choices are spot on 👍 What's your field, something in Engineering ?

@RenghisKhan 5 ай бұрын

Now that was a LOT of common sense for just one video. And I thoroughly like what you've done with your watches. 👍

@degenerateWA 5 ай бұрын

That's awesome man, much appreciated 🍻

@johnnemo6509 5 ай бұрын

nice video, I'm and engineer and while its true its pretty easy to make a good watch if you throw enough money at it, my respect goes out to engineers and designers that can pack reliability and functionality into an affordable product. Casio is the brand I respect the most....what ever you buy with Casio on it you know you are getting value for money. These are all good examples the Vostok is full of character and a truly interesting design history. The invicta pro diver that I have is accurate and dependable as watches costing 5 times the price. I have a number of NH35 bases Chinese watches and they are really a joy to wear. Seiko's are great watches and have always been a blue collar alternative to Swiss offerings. . If you can get equal enjoyment from a watch that is a 10th the price of another why spend the money on the more expensive one except for vanity or the approval of others? cheers

@degenerateWA 5 ай бұрын

I completely understand the appeal of expensive watches, but I also understand that I'm not there yet. Like you said, there are so many excellent watches that are functional and reliable that I can enjoy without feeling anxiety while wearing them.

@johnnemo6509 5 ай бұрын

@@degenerateWA yep I want to own the watch not the watch own me.👍

@SpaceG95 5 ай бұрын

DK! Speaking truth to power ✊🏾

@degenerateWA 5 ай бұрын

Gotta enjoy the collection from within you know what I'm saying?

@TheGearPeddler 5 ай бұрын

I approve this message!

@degenerateWA 5 ай бұрын

Men of culture, we meet again😎🤝🍻

@raphaelcavina6138 5 ай бұрын

I’ve made this journey, thank you for putting it together.

@degenerateWA 5 ай бұрын

That's awesome man. It's a great place to be🍻

@imaginekarma8582 5 ай бұрын

I have a couple Tandorio watches that I have modified myself. I even replaced the movement on one of them. It now looks a lot better than it did from factory.

@degenerateWA 5 ай бұрын

Excellent🍻

@skipinkoreaable 5 ай бұрын

Recently I've been rocking a $3 Sydney Olympics 2000 Swatch Watch found at a charity sale. It's awesome.

@degenerateWA 5 ай бұрын

That's awesome man. You always find hidden gems at things like that🍻

@K.J.H_ 5 ай бұрын

Great showcase and collecting thoughts that certainly echo some of my own conclusions I've come to! Although there are many ways to enjoy this hobby, i think it shows a more authentic appreciation for it when you are truely able to enjoy a watch for everything that it is, completely free from the hype, stigma or bravado. Ok maybe a little bravado when a fellow watch nerd spots your Vostok 😉

@degenerateWA 5 ай бұрын

Okay maybe just a little bit of flexing😁

@watchdogpodcast239 5 ай бұрын

Very relaxing video despite the fact that I did not agree with some of the things you said lol. Great job as always

@degenerateWA 5 ай бұрын

That's expected; these thoughts were for my own collection

@antevrankovic4539 5 ай бұрын

I prefer colour TV =) Vostok is my favourite, still it reminds me on Panerai

@degenerateWA 5 ай бұрын

I can see that; beautiful👌

@chaikianhee841 5 ай бұрын

I have the same vostok pamphibia. Even though it's the most inaccurate watch in my collection running fast about a minute a day, it's certainly one of my favourite.

@degenerateWA 5 ай бұрын

I completely understand that

@radiocontrolled9181 5 ай бұрын

Just remove the back cover and slightly move the regulator to slow it down a bit. Easy.

@thegorn 4 ай бұрын

I really want to get one of those now.

@degenerateWA 4 ай бұрын

@@thegorn I'm not going to say it's the best watch in the world, but damn it looks good.

@KP-wp5sz 5 ай бұрын

Nice video - taking control of your watch journey!

@degenerateWA 5 ай бұрын

Gotta have fun with it🍻

@adk7962 5 ай бұрын

“Calm your tits…”😆. All great watches! And since your SM inspired this video. I don’t think your standards are going down, the quality of the Chinese Brands are going way up. It’s going to be something else when they start putting out great original designs. Thanks!

@degenerateWA 5 ай бұрын

Right? These watches are objectively good; there's no over exaggeration. They do have a handful of original designs and I see a lot of potential in the direction they're heading🍻

@adk7962 5 ай бұрын

@@degenerateWANo one took Japanese and Korean car makers seriously when they first started selling cars (in their respective decades) outside of Japan and Korea. 🤷🏻‍♂️

@degenerateWA 5 ай бұрын

@adk7962 even I have a hard time realizing some Kias I see on the roads are Kias. They look fantastic👌

@riflemusket 5 ай бұрын

An excellent video. Love what you love! Subbed.

@degenerateWA 5 ай бұрын

Awesome, welcome🍻

@wkanost 5 ай бұрын

I think you are just realizing that great watches don’t always cost $5000 or more. Some truly great watches exist for just $200 or less in some cases.

@degenerateWA 5 ай бұрын

Very true. It was important for me to experience the higher end stuff, and I'm glad to know for sure now🍻

@kaczynski2333 5 ай бұрын

The Chinese are kicking it out of the park .

@degenerateWA 5 ай бұрын

There's no way around it man, they're stepping up their game

@gsallada84 5 ай бұрын

I think every watch is great. As long as the story of the watch has bin written by the owner by years of wrist time. I would take a seiko or casio with my own stories tied to it vs. a brand new rolex

@degenerateWA 5 ай бұрын

Fair enough, I get that

@brianfromireland 5 ай бұрын

Such an amazing video , such beautiful and unique watches and content. Thanks for your time investment making this , I’m inspired 😊

@degenerateWA 5 ай бұрын

That's awesome man. Appreciate the positive feedback 🤝🍻

@MrZenhookah 5 ай бұрын

Bravo

@degenerateWA 5 ай бұрын

🤝🍻

@sensible202 5 ай бұрын

Would you consider a different dial color?

@degenerateWA 5 ай бұрын

Not really, but not completely opposed to it.

@Skyler.Santana 5 ай бұрын

This video was awesome Real as f*ck I relate to a lot of it. Interesting that you owned Lux brands and still enjoy these watches the same if not more. Love the custom work you have done to the watches. Cheers

@degenerateWA 5 ай бұрын

Yeah man, I needed to know for myself what the experience was like owning a certain tier of watches. Truth be told, those watches are awesome and are great quality no doubt, but so are these watches. These watches are great on a different level that resonates more with the person I truly am instead of the person I try and pretend to be. Hard to explain but I think you know what I'm talking about🍻

@kl-ly2xh 5 ай бұрын

what bracelet is that on the Boctok?

@degenerateWA 5 ай бұрын

Retro Razor from Strapcode.

@goldfools5445 5 ай бұрын

Interesting..

@degenerateWA 5 ай бұрын

Indeed...

@PhilBot4OOO 5 ай бұрын

Yo I would if you would take a look at the black dial San Martin world timer. I can't find a single yt review on the black dial version, only a few of the grey dial and some of the older dial with a different bezel! SN0116 I believe

@degenerateWA 5 ай бұрын

I'll check it out. I've got a bunch of San Martins sitting in my wishlist so it might be a while

@antevrankovic4539 5 ай бұрын

Agree

@degenerateWA 5 ай бұрын

🤝🍻

@erictrice3545 5 ай бұрын

Great collection that a blue collar guy can njoi and also laugh @ the thirsty wanna b's in😂😎🤔😍 You get It.

@degenerateWA 5 ай бұрын

Right on. I've been there, done that, and this is where the most fun for me is🍻

@bettersteps 5 ай бұрын

Buy one really nice Swiss Made $2000.00 automatic watch and you'll push that collection to the side. I understand sentimental value; I'm a watch guy! Still, you have a collection of beater watches. That's great, but I believe you may not understand the value of a superior designed and finished watch.

@degenerateWA 5 ай бұрын

Fair enough, I can see what you're trying to say. To give you some context, my collection consists of Patek Philippe, Rolex, Omega, Tudor, TAG Heuer, Bell & Ross, and so on and so on; I do very much enjoy more expensive watches. It's hard to explain definitively why I enjoy the watches featured in this episode more, but I just do. It's probably not logical.

@bettersteps 5 ай бұрын

@@degenerateWA Gotcha! I just discovered your channel and believed you were new to watches. ...That being said...I stand by my statement sir! ...Even though it doesn't apply to you. ✌

@degenerateWA 5 ай бұрын

@@bettersteps I do agree that it's important to experience certain tiers before making a statement like mine. Not everyone is going to be happy with these watches and will need more and that's perfectly fine.