Are Empires SMP Season 1 & 2 SECRETLY Connected?

Minecraft empires SMP season 2 is set over a thousand years after the events of the previous season, so you might think there are no important connections between the two seasons. stay tuned to find out if you are right, and subscribe to prismarina for more videos!! 💙
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Are Empires SMP Season 1 & 2 SECRETLY Connected?
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[@prismarinaYT]

It is still possible that Xornoth was released once again when Oli killed the ender dragon.. only time will tell! 💙⚔

[@marvelgabtv7532]

Maybe, but I hope that will never come to that.

[@marvelgabtv7532]

Maybe Katherine is one of the descent of xornoth because of her curse.

[@jungletherainwing1471]

I am a pretty firm believer that Xornoth is dead, it is not completely impossible there might be new followers of Eor and Exor but Scott and Xornoth themselves are likely still in the afterlife Scott created

[@eddog6666]

Well in someone’s live stream this happened: Xornoth has joined the game. Ban/ xornoth. ? You could do that anyway? ? Yeah. I guess I just forgot. ? So we won’t see it again? ? Nope.

[@eddog6666]

I don’t think it will be xornoth. But I think it is the spirit that corrupted him is now going for Shubble. Katherine’s story basically screams I AM GOING EVIL SOON! And the story of season 1 was as far from obvious as you can get. That’s why I think MythicalSausage and Joey are out of the villain because they were possessed villains. Katherine is too obvious. I believe Shubble is going to go full villain this season. Here’s the evidence: Fog: You know the witches of the council are scared of you. You are stronger in magic then all of them combined. They are waiting for any reason to ban you. It doesn’t matter if it is bad or good. I’ll be here wait.

[@daggergaming3943]

My theory is that Lizzie is a descendant of one of Joey's villagers. In her video, she stated that the last interaction her people had with a human, is when a human ruler kept them in cages wearing silly outfits. I think that ruler was Joey, and the outfits were the villager robes

[@Ostralucia]

Joey’s villagers were tigers so that makes sense

[@lisamariecollins4754]

That’s really smart

[@Guesswhodisbe]

And how the axolotles were great protectors and the water because she was the ocean queen that ruled over axolotl guards

[@noonelooksatusers]

ohhhhh that makes sense

[@-r3al1ty-]

That makes sense because joey's villagers were cats and tigers

[@dopeyturtle3635]

the theory of Shubble & Gem being part of the same academy is SO COOL!

[@qllyns]

shelby said in a live stream the academy theory is not right, because witches and wizards are different magical creatures, and she doesn't want to speak for gem's lore :(

[@fawnlight7235]

It is

[@jordanbutler8530]

There is a 1000 year difference so that doesn’t work canonically.

[@tokki3110]

News! Lizzie recently posted her empires video and it was full of tea and references to season 1. First Lizzie had confirmed (as if it wasn't already spoiled thanks to joel lmao) that she was a cat, and she explained how her ancestors were imprisoned in a certain empire *cough* Lost Empire *cough* never to set foot out. And she even made references to how she made axolotls as cute protection guards in her waters around her village cause she read about how a certain someone can command an army of them (s1 lizzie) and serve her protection. And isn't it just me or her buildings look a little too similar to Gem's academy? and the fact lizzie has her amethyst mines while Xornoth was imprisoned in amethyst?? Could lizzie stumple upon Xornoth in the future??

[@Xorrrrr]

If I remember correctly, she also made a reference to xornoth (I dont know how to spell it-) being weak to water, saying that water was a good defense against evil I think.

[@WitherRose477]

Xornoth shall rule...

[@st4rs_sh1ne4m3]

my theory is that since Lizzie was the ocean queen and FAILED to protect it and became human again The ocean guardian probably made the water not so friendly too her. That’s why she’s a cat

[@juniperflutegacha7496]

Fun fact : when Lizzie refers to in the history books “our cat ancestors were trapped in cages in the deep jungle” referring to the lost empire in season one ( I think it’s how he kinda didn’t like the mud bloods ) and how “one can command an axolotl army” referring to the ocean empire in season one I just noticed a few days ago

[@banananana9516]

I really love the theory that the oceans blessings given to Lizzie ssn 1 were taken away when she failed to protect the ocean therefore turning her into a cat, so that she may never be with the ocean again.

[@robbietheweirdo]

maybe i hope she can regain the blessing and be reuninited with her seabling

[@Its-just-Zoe-179]

I think this is a very good theory ❤

[@dougf1249]

Or Joey died as his empire collapsed inward. And he dreamt of his husband’s return. Cause that was way to much like a dream

[@thedanishcatgirl3205]

Especially with what we know happened between Xornoth and Scott

[@oceangworll7944]

Shubble didn't pull everyone to a parallel dimension only that one chunk that dissapeard was from a parallel dimension

[@gwenelle6274]

I actually want there to be a connection between the two seasons 🙏🏾

[@prismarinaYT]

YESSS!

[@ieatteeth5605]

It would be amazing if it was

[@gwenelle6274]

@@ieatteeth5605 Right

[@Florescence1783]

It's already obvious that the empires s1 and 2 are connected because ond of the KZbinrs from empires stated that the events from s1 happened a thousand years ago in the empires s2 timeline

[@gwenelle6274]

@@Florescence1783 🤷🏾‍♀️

[@princezalmueda5719]

The first theory got me thinking that in one of Scott's lore flashbacks about how he got his golden eye There was a wizard or warlock who helped him, do you think that might be Gandalf?

[@luhnllkkj]

Xoronoth was in an amethyst crystal in season 1,, now lizzie owns an amethyst mine 🤔

[@ieatteeth5605]

I think lizzie may find xoronoth

[@star-mc4kw]

AND xornoth summoned some demon cats before

[@AlphaFX-kv4ud]

Xornoths dead, Scott killed him

[@Walnut64]

@@AlphaFX-kv4ud Yeah but in Joey’s video Xoronoth went around with Joey causing trouble. They even got married. Though that might of been a dream.

[@AlphaFX-kv4ud]

@@Walnut64 I’m pretty sure that was a dream because I don’t think xornoth loved Joey that much

[@PastelOracle]

I’ve got a head canon that pixel riff is uncovering grimlands because of the bridge.The bridge looks like the wall in grimlands and the wall probably was destroyed because the cod fathers kingdom went bye bye .And after the sea level rising some of pixel riffs great great family made the bridge as a symbol what they think was their in the past.

[@moonshadow121]

That’s really good!

[@jungletherainwing1471]

I would say this is pretty good by nature of it mainly asking questions to hypothesize about rather than giving disputable answers

[@jungletherainwing1471]

It proposes answers but doesn't say they are the definitive ones

[@nicolaphillips7488]

Mother Emperor is back (name change!) I'm actually not letting my daughter comment on this one, I surprisingly have really gotten into this series lately and have my own thoughts! Maybe Xornoth was released once again when Oil killed the Enderdragon!

[@prismarinaYT]

Haha, awesome!

[@ieatteeth5605]

Ofc it was oil

[@aizxnn]

*Oli

[@MockingjayPart2]

LOVE this video, so many things i didn't think about before this, thank you

[@prismarinaYT]

thank YOU!

[@yugisweets]

I was thinking about something because of Lizzie her Prisma palace is still there Lizzie might regain her memory because they’re basically all incarnated idk

[@Varmit_]

I really like when the CC’s reference season 1, I’ve heard atleast 3 references (I haven’t watched much from others so there could definitely be more) 2 from Lizzie & 1 from Shubble Shelby used old gnome magic on her villager Lizzie referenced Joey’s old villagers in her newest video along with referencing her old Axolotl army!

[@christinewhoyt]

And now we even have Sausage...

[@dawonchoi1050]

I have a theory about Gem and FWhip, after the great explosion, when the twins left empires, they went to where Dawn stood, Wizard Gem has been appointed by the village they moved at as a leader. Later on, as she knew that her time will end, she used majority of her powers and later on gave birth to Princess Gem, it took toll of both Wizard Gem's power and health. Before her last breath, she granted FWhip, her twin's wish, to be able to take care of his niece, Princess Gem, and take care of her till she grows up. Wizard Gem's powers are very weak hence instead of giving FWhip more time to live, he became a goblin. And before Wizard Gem died, she tried removing both FWhip and baby Princess Gem's memories making sure that they'll be able to remember once the time is right. And when Princess Gem grows up, she'll be able to rebuild what was left of Dawn using her mother's guidance, the wisps, the magical beings her mother created before creating Princess Gem herself.

[@moonshadow121]

Whoa this is really good! And I feel like this could be a viable piece of LORE

[@millytheomegawolf6175]

I feel out of all the empires from season one to possibly uncovered by Pix or maybe someone else, I feel like it would be the Ocean Empire. I like to imagine that during the changes to the world between those thousands of years, the lilypads decayed, but the prisma palace stayed standing. It may have been drowned out even, almost like alantis. Still being ruled by fish, just not very smart ones. I'm hoping we see something of it return, lizzie had so much of her own lore for it that could play a part in this season, even if its minor. Like Pirate joe doing a raid of it and maybe finding Queen Lizzies armor, it being insanely big seeing she was ten feet tall lol.

[@kiaratheone4909]

This could happen, maybe Xornoth was there all along and he was watching oki, he was very interested in how he was killing mobs, and maybe he will take over his mind and make him his servant, like him and Joey,

[@kiaratheone4909]

Only time will tell..

[@AlphaFX-kv4ud]

Xornoth died in Scott’s last episode of season 1

[@xXKianaCrystalisXx]

@@AlphaFX-kv4ud true, but I don't think the crown was destroyed, maybe because Scott is back, Scott could be a reincarnation of the old Scott and thus Xornoth's crown may still have his energy in it, and since if one brother dies, the other one will follow, maybe because Scott could be back, Xornoth will follow? Does that make sense?

[@AlphaFX-kv4ud]

@@xXKianaCrystalisXx yeah but still I think xornoths dead and not returning

[@xXKianaCrystalisXx]

@@AlphaFX-kv4ud that could be a possibility, but now I've just created a new headcannon in my head lol

[@debbieKmusic]

Ocean empire - Joey Wizard Gem - shubble Seablings - sausage and shubble Sausage - katherine Xornoth - the scene in the end King Joel - God Joel Mythical sausage and Joel - Joel and lizzy Lost Joey- pixels (The other connections came into my mind and I forgot again lmao)

[@Trixie_editss]

*me who just wants it to be linked so Xornoth can come back and Joey can stop shipping himself with Katherine*

[@prismarinaYT]

LMAOOOOO OMG

[@justajynx]

That would be awesome, it would also make Katherine his target and everyone would have to protect Katherine and in the end Joey would chose Katherine because he fell for someone who wasn’t using him

[@jiromac]

katherine is his princess pirate

[@snowedorchid]

YEZZ SAVE ME FROM MY DISPENSER OF NONE GAYNESS!!!!!!! LMAOOO

[@Trixie_editss]

@@snowedorchid HAHA YES

[@Benji-zs2zm]

Love the video, but instead of Shelby turning Lizzie into a cat, could gandalf have turned himself more humanoid and with his generations passing they left magic and will eventually form a new empire with lizzie. Their is also a connection between the Crystal cliffs and lizzie having amethyst underneath her empire.

[@waytoobroke9373]

And now Lizzie has revealed that she is a cat and has said that her ancestors (cats) were held in cages. (Could be related to Joeys kingdom?)

[@Ostralucia]

Joey’s villagers were tigers I think? So evolution

[@waytoobroke9373]

@@Ostralucia Joeys kingdom was in the jungle so I thought the ancestors were ocelots or the ‘Tiger Blood Prince’ that Lizzie held hostage in her cage. Thanks for the suggestion

[@Janelledeeeee]

@@Ostralucia tigers are cats

[@Ostralucia]

@@Janelledeeeee Yes

[@Itzdevil_Lizzie]

Its amazing how you do this I love your videos

[@prismarinaYT]

thank you so much

[@saramundy4953]

Amazing vid! But I did find a problem with your last theory. In Scott's finale he kills himself therefore killing Xornoth. I don't know what that means about Joey's finale but if the lore adds up Xornoth can't come back. This was not made to be annoying or disrespectful I just wanted to make sure all of the factors were thrown in to the equation. Thanks for the vid!

[@AlphaFX-kv4ud]

Joeys finale was probably a dream

[@user-yp7of7gz1o]

Katherines land or pearls lands are definetly the source of sausages s2 empire's power and joeys villagers might have turned to cats

[@adelani]

I like to believe that Princess Gem was a non-magical descendant of Wizard Gem, and couldn’t attend the academy because she didn’t have the powers to do so. Maybe Wizard Gem cast a spell on herself to make sure she never died, turning her into the sun. Princess Gem found out somehow and now worships the sun, hoping it will give her the powers she always dreamt of.

[@katifa3609]

Me and my friends (who are empires smp fans) created this theory (episode 1) where each of the new emperors/monarchs/princesses e.t.c we’re descendants from the previous empires, and since there was evidence in Emp S1 that the rulers live for like years and years. Also I really want Xornoth to come back, we need to see the Scottish demon come back! Great video!

[@christinewhoyt]

Sausage seems to be the same one and yes I know we didn't know that three months ago and yes I did catch up...

[@marvelgabtv7532]

Well Ollie in fact kill the ender dragon on his new videos.

[@prismarinaYT]

he did indeed! that's why i had to go and re-edit this video slightly to add the part at 5:45 ! 😩

[@marvelgabtv7532]

Lost descendent

[@marvelgabtv7532]

Katherine is relative to xornoth and Scott.

[@rafar8311]

Lizzie's latest episode (episode 9) kinda hints about season 1 and 2 being somewhat connected.. In one scene, she learned from a history book that axolotls could protect and attack mobs Could this be referencing to the ocean queen and her axolotl army? And her story was written in an ancient history book?

[@AlphaFX-kv4ud]

Also she references the lost empire when talking about why she is disguised

[@rafar8311]

@@AlphaFX-kv4ud Ooo what if lizzie is a descendant of the lost empire's people.. perhaps even the tiger blood prince?

[@AlphaFX-kv4ud]

@@rafar8311 maybe, she does mention how people treated the cats of the lost empire as why she hides and pretends to be human, so it is a possibility

[@littlesprout5803]

I think the history books Lizzie refers to are from the ocean empire seeing as it talks about how axolotls have proven to be great weapons or something and water was a great defense

[@oceangworll7944]

Wait Joey's lost empire had feline villagers and Lizzie in this season is a cat soooo

[@lolapetshops9490]

I’ve got a theory! When gem told that she kept telling stories to the villagers in the place she escaped with Fwhip? Maybe the villagers started their own school which then continued teaching students for thousands of years. And because the village was in a sky island (like a different world) that’s why Shelby came to the world with a train. Shes a student of the academy!

[@RunFrom_River]

Well, in her vid she said her ancestors were dressed in fancy clothes, in the jungle, which I think means her ancestors were the tiger blood prince and princess! This would also mean she is actually royalty!

[@Ostralucia]

Yea!!!!

[@teatoohot9014]

SERIOUS QUESTION.... - - - Is Jimmy a toy?

[@Trixie_editss]

Yes.. He is Woody's distant relative

[@aep_adam]

Yes

[@mudiasokoya8347]

Yes

[@ariescostanria607]

no he is sherif

[@wolfgirl1178]

@@ariescostanria607 so is Woody

[@leosflowergarden3178]

There was something I noticed between them that was really small but i thought was neat, S1 lizzy found a lost panda in one of the crown-royalty episodes and S2 Lizzy had the lost panda trail! Its really small but i thought it was a nice detail {Unless it wasnt intentional-}

[@ariellemogol3483]

I'm prolly late for this but I think the character shrub from S1 is alive somewhere. We all know that Shrub was a hundred years old so it might be possible for a gnome to live thousands of years too, and I think Shrub is still somewhere in the empires world either in the nether lookin for the gnomes or living happily with her family and the other gnomes. Thought of her might be alive somewhere meaning she can come back to the story, to me that is something I want to happen.

[@nerezza9250]

I can believe I missed so many links to Season one. Your so smart for figuring this out 😁

[@MochaStoneheart]

i like to think season takes place in a different region of the world then season 1, explaining the vastly different environments

[@JelliinaCup]

Its soo exciting, and now answers about the ender dragon's disappearance have been revealed with TheOrionSounds latest video: He killed the Ender Dragon after "accidentally joing the server". But how has he remained undetected for so long? Did he come before everyone joined? And if so, how long was he stuck in the end credits lol But most importantly, how did he cross worlds to get there, and was it by accident, or is someone pulling strings in the background?

[@Florescence1783]

It's legit obvious that they're connected because i heard from a KZbinr that the empires s2 is like the present day and the events that happened in s1 was a thousand years ago in empires s2

[@dragonlord_ec]

I actually didn’t know that this season took place 1000 years later this could really open up some possibility’s!!

[@Rain_531]

All of these theory’s are amazing!!! I talk about empires of hours and not get bored I just love this Siri so much and all the creatures in especially Lizzie! I have been watching her for like five years and I’m so proud of her for she has made it!

[@linaspocket]

in Lizzies recent video she was putting axolotls in a river surrounding critter city because she read in a history book that someone had made an axolotl army. and that she may just not have the power to control an axolotl army

[@Quinnsites]

Also in lizzie's newest video she did say she learned from something that axolotls are the best for an army or something along those lines maybe she discovered a book owned by the ocean queen?

[@Swifties4LifeVersion13]

I feel like Joey was definitely imagining him and Xornoth as a couple because Scott killed himself, killing Xornoth as well. Also, there is a lot of proof that Xornoth was just using Joey as a pawn, and not having any actual feelings for him.

[@mistressofuniverses]

Pixlriffs mentioned that part of the lore for the Great Bridge is that it has points along it that marked the high tide along it but that something happened that made the water disappear and sink down to the level that it is at in the current time.

[@andreasmith405]

Me personally, I think some of them are connected. Like for example, Kathrine's playthrough, in her first episode, when she's explaining what happened to Glimmer Grove (I think that's her kingdom's name in season 2) gets destroyed like how the Overgrown got destroyed. I also think Shelby's playthrough is connected to Gem's season one playthrough. Lizzie, I'm not so sure. But I don't think Joel or Fwhip's playthrough are connected, nor Jimmy's playthrough because Jimmy said in his first episode that you didn't need to watch season one because it's not connected to season two, but I'm not sure if he meant that for his playthrough or the empire series in general. Joey's might be connected, but that's only because Joey still lives in the jungle biome yet, I haven't watched Joey's playthrough yet. I don't think Scott is connected either. But this is just my personal opinion, I really want some responses.

[@ruuuuuuuuruuuuuuuuuuuu]

i love your videos ngl even if you travelled out of the empires theory niche i would keep watching

[@jam4320]

You Are The Most Into The Lore Of Minecraft Servers I've Seen In. . . Forever And I Love Your Videos :3

[@emilekstrom9222]

Lizzie said that her jungle ancestors were put in silly clothes by a human That sounds like joey from season 1

[@timbamford2311]

Lol. Nice theories and a really well made video. Personally I hope Xornoth does not return as I found his storyline went on far too long and detracted from the more light-hearted shenanigans. I did like Shelby’s Gollum impersonation though when she got hold of the crystal 😊 I think a nod to the ancient history would be a nice touch with them discovering hints of distant ancestors. Wouldn’t it be great if Sausages assassins guild is still lurking in the shadows and his assassin carts suddenly start appearing, and what if Pixandria’s protector formed an ancient order of defenders. One thing is for sure, the players will come up with far better unexpected storylines than I could ever predict.

[@sivasing5108]

Omg I do remember that last season they opened the end portel and the Demond was relesed

[@eljay8193]

Lizzie actually referred to The ocean queen it was ep: 7 it was something about axolotol traing

[@katelynopal1879]

In Lizzie’s newest vid she says that here family was once controled by a human … Could Joey be that human

[@KnotaAlive]

het for the first reason about the academy when asked, shubble did say that the academies that she went too vs gem's where not connected, its a clip on yt somewhere

[@BenjaminKowalczyk-oo6wt]

Maybe Lizzie got rich in amethyst from amethyst debris of crystal cliffs? Also we know that Lizzie was a student of the academy. Also maybe shelb is a descendent of crystal cliffs. Hmmm….

[@RainJamz]

I think that gem’s pet cat is actually Lizzie, she saw how Lizzie couldn’t make it because the ocean or sea was destroyed and she couldn’t it survive. So Gem told Shelby to make sure she survives so Shelby made the decision to turn Lizzie into Gem’s pet cat

[@lyamwolstenholme9742]

I'm not sure but this is my theory(kinda). What if the s2 world is a warped version of the s1 seed? It happened with such force that it knocked all the ruins of s1.

[@Jesterharth]

It did send a shiver down my spine!

[@KallmeKylie]

"Your gonna see more of, your old friend Xorrnoth" -empiers musical

[@ellevictor474]

The Shubble theory was good, but they already confirmed (multipletimes) Xornoth is not coming back , also Scott killed him, what Joey saw was a hallucination created by the crown as he fell into maddness at the fall of his Empire

[@bisexualdisaster89]

I never thought abt that-

[@oliviayeboah892]

I thought maybe xornorth place all the rulers under some sort of a genjitsu spell living in empires 2, so maybe our new witch shubble may discover about the spell and may seek help from the other empires to break the spell and come back to the normal ruin world to see xornorth was the ruler of the server and a villagers where his slaves and dat is where empires 2 will end and empires 3 will bring on the REBELLION

[@liquescemay]

One month ago!? Aww well this was a good one

[@angiefluffy2843]

Can we discuss how Oli killed the ender dragon? The only other ender dragon was from Season one, Violet. Since that was the only egg, that'd mean he'd killed Violets child- or even worse, maybe even Violet herself....

[@richreynolds6320]

Helping me figure out this mystery and I won’t stop until we get it right

[@Lizzy3339]

Since in S2 Lizzie is a cat she hates water but in S1 she loved water since she was one the ruler of the ocean and 2 turned into the blue axolotl. My theory is since Lizzie “failed to protect the ocean” the water isn’t as welcoming.

[@aep_adam]

how… just HOW do you make really cool thumbnails!!!!

[@emelyhernandez7944]

I feel like sausage also has a connection to season 1

[@SirasDemons]

There are a lot of references in season 2 that goes back to season 1

[@katweatherbee2167]

When you started the video and a quick clip of the end popped up, I had the idea that the reason the end portal was already open was because the ender dragon was killed in the first season

[@orissareggler7214]

Lizzy confirmed that she is descended from the Lost Empire

[@animeedits9587]

Xornoth was killed in the first season when Scott killed himself because he was connected to but your theory still works because he was killed and reborn before so he could possibly be the one who corrupted Katherine's kingdom

[@The_brightest_tone]

I hope we have a empires session 3 and xornoth is in it! Pls

[@saturnscurios]

You sound like Anna from inventing anna :O Love it so much! where is it from?

[@glitcheremily8994]

I would love to see a whole timeline of Season 1!!! Than of Season 2 when it fully correctly.

[@ChaosEnthusiast]

i remember watching one of lizzies videos and seeing her read that axolotls were a good defense and it gave me flashbacks to season 1 LOL

[@marcusibarrientos6606]

i think after gem left the crystal cliffs turned into a witch academy where shelby have studied because either gandolf died or the witches might invaded the witch academy

[@kittyscout1185]

NO WAYYYYYYY I JUST HAD A EXPLOSION IN MY HEAD-

[@marioc.valentine1682]

i have a theory that lizzie was cursed after the ocean blessing to be a creature which avoids the water, joel ends up finding the ocean orb and becomes a god himself

[@tristanumalos5368]

Theory they will find each other's empires

[@paulnorris9657]

In s2 Lizzie makes a library one of the books is called The Ocean Queen

[@MVPONLINEdotnet]

So far and watched every single one of your videos

[@notgoodatnames403]

Wasn't Xornoth killed when Scott sacrificed himself? The 2 champions souls are connected and Scott sent himself to the afterlife so he could end the endless battle between the champions. I feel like if Xornoth came back it would kinda ruin the sacrifice Scott made. However EMSP season 2 is connected to season 1 because season 2 is happening 1,000 years later so yes this is the same world

[@GalaxyVaporeon]

Wait it was confirmed in the cannon that it’s 1000 years later

[@notgoodatnames403]

@@GalaxyVaporeon yeah

[@itztocabesties8650]

My theory is that xornoth is actually the “ghost” in the evermore

[@ceilidhmacmullin]

4:08 WAIT… FELINES IN CLOTHING??? RULED BY A HUMAN??? In Lizzie’s Video where she reveals that she’s a CAT(FELINE) her ancestors lived in a JUNGLE (joeys biome) AND WAS RULED BY A HUMAN (Joey?) AND HAD TO WEAR CLOTHES… COULD LIZZIES ANCESTORS HAVE LIVED IN THE LOST EMPIRE!?!?!?

[@superaxolotl4782]

I honestly waa thinking abt how thr Empires would fall is S2 but then I thought about Joel's empire and I think stratos might fall. Like as in *fall* Because its in the sky it might just crash.

[@namelessone2139]

Little did you know that Lizzie is actually the one related to Joey

[@anirmouha2867]

Wait didn't xornath die in Scott 's video where he sacrificed himself to kill xornath also I thought was just dreaming after he fell and hit his head on a rock

[@InksyDragons]

GAWSH lots of lore :D

[@mahdip.h.z9372]

I think wen gem left the crystal cliffs he went to e deferent spot and made a new magical academy and Shelby com from there and maybe fwep helps gem to make new kingdom and fwep made that train That Shelby was in it to come in this mangrove

[@qllyns]

shelby said in a live stream the academy theory is not right, because witches and wizards are different magical creatures, and she doesn't want to speak for gem's lore.

[@cloudyxshadyx5009]

That from the portal did oli

[@marygracemorales1501]

There is a change that they are connected! if you watched Sausage's Episode 1 season 2 You'll hear him say that empires 2 was set a thousand years after Xornoth's Defeat there's also a possibility that they are the descendants of each member of empires 1 and probably false was the descendants of pearl so yea!

[@Wen_The_Willow]

that theory about Gem's academy and Shelby's being the same makes so much sense! I just hope it is right...

[@alexunknown5929]

Xornoth coming back isn't possible though. His and Scott's lifeforces were bound togther bc of them being champtions thing and Scott *did* seperate his soul from his body during the s1 final of his POV. Unless Scott become a champion of Aeor again (which I doubt), Xornoth should not be around again

[@Magici._L]

WAIT I HAVE A THEROYYYYYY!!! So you know how after the reactor thing happened the place turned into a creator? WELL I THINK THAT THAT PLACE TURNED INTO A DESERT AND NOW THATS KNOWN AS TUBLE TOWN 💀

[@cyrusbulalaque3949]

wait scott already disclaimed joey as he went crazy by the end of the series and only imagined zorzor that's why it's like a sugar high montage