Problematic Hadith: Jinn Possession | Dr. Shabir Ally

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@yahya2925
@yahya2925 5 жыл бұрын
The Qur'an says that shaytan (MACH) did not do anything but simply give us evil suggestions and that he had no power to do anything except that. So..
@sub-zeroscorpion289
@sub-zeroscorpion289 5 жыл бұрын
Quranic verses needs to be learn with tefsir (expalantion and interpretation of the ehli sunnah schollars ) not just read like you read .Jinn possession is real and that is real life everyday argument. RUQYA performing ehen jinn talk inside the human body and talk in another language or different voice of thr patient.
@mahbubrm2148
@mahbubrm2148 5 жыл бұрын
@@sub-zeroscorpion289 lol those old people didn't knew much
@MO_1989
@MO_1989 5 жыл бұрын
True, ordinary jinns are not more powerfull than Satan. "I had NO authority over you except that I invited you, and you responded to me. " 14:22 "Indeed, there is for him no authority over those who have believed and rely upon their Lord." - 16:99 Strange how the symptoms only seem to hit those who fear and believe in jinn possesion.
@DeathByDrone-ORmk84
@DeathByDrone-ORmk84 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheDrRow when Mohammed saw Gabriel, he took up the entire sky. If you didn't have the angel, and haven't been purified, God's power could kill you!
@ADeeSHUPA
@ADeeSHUPA 4 жыл бұрын
@@NinjaKiller999 hH
@dualesulaiman1135
@dualesulaiman1135 7 жыл бұрын
I really love this great Scholar Dr.Shabir Ally, he is the kind of scholar we need today. Our religion is rational and we need to take it back from those who are misleading people based on irrational hadiths.
@Mohamad_Kader
@Mohamad_Kader 7 жыл бұрын
Duale Sulaiman yes
@destiny2727
@destiny2727 6 жыл бұрын
Islam is not confined to rational beliefs, it goes beyond, hence the doubts. It's a divine religion, and comprehending it requires real insight which is lacking in people today.
@bubblegumsugarplump5914
@bubblegumsugarplump5914 5 жыл бұрын
That is what exactly Ahmadiyyt is rational
@sub-zeroscorpion289
@sub-zeroscorpion289 5 жыл бұрын
Only muttezile sect reject jinn possession. All ehli sunnah schollars agrees that jinn possession is true. We have argument in the Quran and in the hadirh also we have argument in everyday RUQYA performing on patients. Islam is from Allah and its not only rrational. Irrational things are part of Islam.
@thmallik
@thmallik 4 жыл бұрын
Yes.. I like his smart concept about Islam...
@talhadoci9897
@talhadoci9897 4 жыл бұрын
People from the Middle East are saying that they don’t believe in jinn possessions because schizophrenia and epilepsy are considered as jinn possession there. I live in Albania and i know a lot of cases when it was clear jinn possession and sometimes even the doctors(even if they are secular) recommend people to go to an imam because of the unexplainable symptoms. Jinn possession is real.
@kokksesos2699
@kokksesos2699 3 жыл бұрын
100% agree
@sirajalghuraba
@sirajalghuraba 7 жыл бұрын
vary logical answer- his stance on taking a different approach with Hadith is not heretical, Muslims come in all shapes & sizes, we can have different views within the set boundaries & still fall under the same umbrella of Islam, thats the beauty of it.
@ParvezKhan-py5ys
@ParvezKhan-py5ys 7 жыл бұрын
Dr Shabbir's approach to the hadith literature is rational and also consistent with the Quran. Since the Quran is the most reliable source and is preserved, then it shoul be the criteria to distinguish authentic hadith from false. Quran explicitly states that jinn have no control over humans.
@alysellin686
@alysellin686 3 жыл бұрын
@@ParvezKhan-py5ysWhich surah of the Quran says that?
@justCommando
@justCommando 4 жыл бұрын
It's a shame with all those people taking advantage of these 'jinn posession' situations to make money and defraud people.
@NRFP
@NRFP 3 жыл бұрын
Can u give the hadith number?
@leemajor5003
@leemajor5003 6 жыл бұрын
4:30 did sister just say GODDAMN lol
@yusuffulat6954
@yusuffulat6954 5 жыл бұрын
LMAO
@Toolgdskli
@Toolgdskli 5 жыл бұрын
You are very observant
@foremoststore1359
@foremoststore1359 5 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@TheKingofdans
@TheKingofdans 4 жыл бұрын
@@infinityApologeticsClips 😂😂😂
@mertmitm
@mertmitm 4 жыл бұрын
I'm very positive that she'd not curse in front of a scholar. It's very unclear what she's said
@BAFREMAUXSOORMALLY
@BAFREMAUXSOORMALLY 6 жыл бұрын
NOBODY seems to know here what "JINN POSESSION" is, yet they have a big mouth!
@rayyanamir8560
@rayyanamir8560 4 жыл бұрын
Ghosts don't exist. Yet you have a big mouth.
@BAFREMAUXSOORMALLY
@BAFREMAUXSOORMALLY 4 жыл бұрын
@@rayyanamir8560 Rayyan Amir HAS NO MOUTH AND DOES NOT EXIST!!!
@ableskill
@ableskill 4 жыл бұрын
@@BAFREMAUXSOORMALLY you seem to have a big mouth and also seem to be blind. It’s about time you get close to the Quran and read it with understanding, maybe than you will come to your senses.
@Khamran20
@Khamran20 3 жыл бұрын
Not a big mouth, this one is a dirty mouth.
@misterpacha1
@misterpacha1 3 жыл бұрын
@@rayyanamir8560 ghosts? They are talking about jinn. U don't believe in jinn? Are u a Muslim btw?
@ibrahiymghany9928
@ibrahiymghany9928 6 жыл бұрын
It's sad when ppl suffering from mental illness, depression, psychological trama or sickness and they need medical & psychological help some conman profits off their condition by telling them a jin has possessed them. The plasibo effect of the exorcism sometimes works only because the foolish person "believes" the jins was removed from him or her. Then not long after the problem returns & the spend more $ by the jin doctor! ! Smh!!
@usamanawaz1126
@usamanawaz1126 4 жыл бұрын
Its vice versasuppose if someone is really suffering from such spiritual afflictions then he's labeled With some disorders etc which don't have any tests to verify/diagnose he will be put on to drugs for rest of his life that's also injustice with such person
@Meese29
@Meese29 3 жыл бұрын
This is old but yeh it's abuse! The hadeeths that talk about possession are problematic. Ruins the image of Islam and people underestimate even just owning a title which makes you well respected, like an 'exorcist'. I mean people give these people their house, car etc. In my experience it's a placebo effect and if you're unlucky they abuse power to tell you what to do based on their understanding of deen which may contradict your values (you're vulnerable so you listen), instill more fear in you and makes you more ill + paranoid. Seriously people need to go to qualified doctors, psychiatrists and psychologists. I mean you can hallucinate during grief
@tshepomasike7662
@tshepomasike7662 4 ай бұрын
mxm i wish you were there
@abdihakimsuleiman5856
@abdihakimsuleiman5856 4 жыл бұрын
Please brother Shabir don’t stop there. It’s our responsibility to inform people. This jinn procession is consuming people and like you said, comes against the teaching of Allah and his prophet SAW. Allah tells us over and over again in the Quran that shaytan has no authority over. Shaytan himself tells us this, but yet we think they can control us or harm us. It’s mindnumpingly stupidity. Jazaakallah and keep up the good work.
@mosh1881
@mosh1881 4 жыл бұрын
Abdihakim Suleiman brother what about black magic, can shaytaan control us then?!
@Feisabeilillah
@Feisabeilillah 4 жыл бұрын
This guy is controversial in his verdicts . About masturbation too,he is saying controversial things.....
@darkcomet1607
@darkcomet1607 2 жыл бұрын
@@Feisabeilillah masturbation is not haram, its makruh Even Dr Zakir Naik said that according to Hadith and Qur'an
@Hugulubugulu
@Hugulubugulu Жыл бұрын
There are also certain ruqyah people that can generate income from scamming people into buying their anti-jinn products like anti jin soaps, oils etc etc from people who want to be protected from jinn possession
@TexasVenom347
@TexasVenom347 Жыл бұрын
The fact that millions of exorcisms take place every day across many religions logically suggests to me that jinn possession is very real.
@ebtehalalmutairi6110
@ebtehalalmutairi6110 4 жыл бұрын
I searched this a little and found that there is an Ayah in the Quran mentioning those people who practice riba and their condition rising up in the Day of Judgement...the verse is 275 from Surat Al-Baqarah. other than that, I agree with some the the previous comments that supports the idea of Jinn possession and I suggest that you should mention what is exactly meant by Jinn possession in the Islamic culture and what they agree on and the cases that are talked about. I think that referring to it as "Jinn possession" without much explanation would cause some misunderstandings for all of us.
@occrugs
@occrugs 3 жыл бұрын
You are a blessing to us Mr Ally. Almost every time I listen to your speech, it simply refreshes me spiritually and physiologically . May Allah Almighty bless you and likes of you.
@TanimZamanOfficial
@TanimZamanOfficial 6 жыл бұрын
is the Buraj and the Mi’raaj and irrational legend as well?
@abuthetruthfull
@abuthetruthfull 4 жыл бұрын
Buraj and miraaj?
@MAli-pm2qg
@MAli-pm2qg 4 жыл бұрын
@@abuthetruthfull I think reference is being made to when our prophet ascended the heavens with Jibreel i.e. what is known as the "night journey"
@rshikanga
@rshikanga 7 жыл бұрын
Are you trying to say that Jinn possession isn't real? I wish you come to the East African Coast and see these things for yourself
@rshikanga
@rshikanga 7 жыл бұрын
But I have seen exorsism where the Quran is used and you even hear the Jinn speak as they get out of a person. Associating everything with Jinn possession might be the real bomb to Iman but some face real Jinn threats. For instance one of my relatives used to experience some beatings at night until his jaws got dislocated. You know how hard it is to turn a blind eye to what seems very real.
@WaqasAli-dp3lm
@WaqasAli-dp3lm 7 жыл бұрын
My younger brother Mohsin is suffering till this day for 10 years straight as I type this very message. He is a strong 6foot 3" tall boy . powerful to strike once and hurt someone badly. he is possessed with jin /Jinns and they have FULL CONTROL over him for the past 7 months. me and my family NEED a proper ruqya for him . Its not negeligable its Extremely dangerous because sometime he hits my parents sometimes the small babies in the house. Who once was a saint of a boy is now taken on the form of a shaitaan ! pls pray for Mohsin Ali ! May Allah bless all those with unseen illnesses and give then shifa. Ameen!!
@salmanqureshi5131
@salmanqureshi5131 7 жыл бұрын
Waqas Ali may Allah grant your brother mohsin shifa ameen. You must do ruqya on him. Instructions are in the following link islamqa.info/en/12918 Or you can take him to the masjid and get it done there
@masimusic316
@masimusic316 6 жыл бұрын
Watch this :Quran about jinn and extraterrestrial Entities, Aliens Zeta Greys kzbin.info/www/bejne/eZbKYn1vYqyGsLM
@mirror0images
@mirror0images 6 жыл бұрын
Waqas Ali have you tried taking him to a doctor? psychosis is real
@tshepomasike7662
@tshepomasike7662 4 ай бұрын
I really do not understand this argument: I am Muslim and in 2009 when i was in madrasah, i experienced a fellow student who was apparently possessed by a JINN, he was taken to the Masjid and the bothers read Surahs while seated around him, the possessed boy started speaking which was the Jinn answering questions of where it was sent from and why, the brothers read Surahs , tied his one small finger if i remember correctly so that the jinn can exit the boy's body from the other finger or something like that, there was a specific process implemented to cast away the possession and the process seemed to be known as something that had been implemented before. Furthermore, when i was in madrasah, we were taught that we shouldn't enter the toilets with bare feet ( a teaching still practiced all around South Africa in all the Majids i have visited), we were taught DUAS for entering and exiting toilets and all these rules and practices are apparently to protect us from being possessed by JINNS because we ere told that JINNS leave in the toilets which is why we were also taught not to eat,speak,read Quran verses or even think about them while in the toilet. On top of that there's Sura NNas and Surah Jinnat both in the Quran talking about JINNS and these were some of the Surahs read for the possessed boy in the Masjid while he was possessed............... NOW IT IS UTTER CONFUSION TO HEAR THAT IT IS NOT RATIONAL FOR A JINN TO POSSESS A HUMAN BODY: ALL CONFUSING AND BRINGING ABOUT DOUTS. I MEAN IF THERE ARE QUESTIONABLE FALSE HADITHS THEN HOW DO WE FOR CERTAIN KNOW IF THERE ARE TRUE HADITHS
@ibrahiymghany9928
@ibrahiymghany9928 6 жыл бұрын
The only thing that jins can do to us is to "wisper", nothing else. Any hadith saying otherwise is fabricated as the Quran says that ppl will blame iblees on judgment day & iblees will say... "I had no power over you except to wisper & call you to do wrong". (Sura Ibrahiym) also, sura falak & naas is a duwa asking Allah to save us from falling for the "wispers" and "suggestions" of jins.
@Altavian
@Altavian 6 жыл бұрын
three levels of possession, but you are right, we invite each level; it is common knowledge we all have a karim, a whisperer
@rameezrather5385
@rameezrather5385 4 жыл бұрын
when humans don't have a logical explanation for anything they ascribe it to supernatural or metaphysical forces.
@raythenomad
@raythenomad 3 жыл бұрын
what makes supernatural and metaphysical forces "illogical"?
@covalentbond7933
@covalentbond7933 3 жыл бұрын
@@raythenomad there's no proof of their existence, anything claimed to be the action of jinns or angels can easily be explained with science, that said, a Muslim believes through faith not through seeing and feeling
@tshepomasike7662
@tshepomasike7662 4 ай бұрын
@@covalentbond7933 Well i saw JINN possession with my own eyes, what do you say to that?
@MS-zm8fh
@MS-zm8fh 6 жыл бұрын
I agree with the Shaykh that the hadith is problematic if there is weakness in the chain of narration, not because he thinks it is not rational. Many things you think rational may become irrational in the future, and indeed what you think now is rational might not have been so in the past.
@suaydibrahym718
@suaydibrahym718 5 жыл бұрын
Shabir ally is a mu'tazili fake scholar
@Godzillaaaaa11
@Godzillaaaaa11 4 жыл бұрын
@@suaydibrahym718 1) being mu'tazli is not wrong, in fact some would argue the type of rational discourse they had was the essence of Islam 2) He isn't a fake scholar he has certainly done more studying and training than you have 3) What does it say about you that you find being rational a problem when the Quran asks everyone to think critically and not be a blind follower
@adilc8849
@adilc8849 3 жыл бұрын
What a great video. This is a straight-up informative, straightforward, honest and REAL video, unlike all the other crap about jins that’s on KZbin.
@DAWAHTIME1
@DAWAHTIME1 4 жыл бұрын
0:37 "either jinns are a branch of angels or a seperate creatiion" Does the Quran say that? Not only does he have only a very basic knowledge of Hadith he doesn't even know basic Quran. misguiding and confusing people. Look at the anchorperson who also seems to be devoid of basic Islamic knowledge of Quran and Hadith. Shocking how he seems to be sitting and posing as an expert on Quran and Hadith giving opinions and definitely neither.
@KryptonKr
@KryptonKr 4 жыл бұрын
When I heard he said that Jinns are a “branch” of angels is what made me suspicious of him. I like his reasoning so far about many other hadiths but when it comes to the jinns, he is wrong. Jinns are completely different creations than angels because they have free will and they are made from smokeless fire and the angels are made from light(but this is not mentioned in the Quran though) 66:6 يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا قُوا أَنفُسَكُمْ وَأَهْلِيكُمْ نَارًا وَقُودُهَا النَّاسُ وَالْحِجَارَةُ عَلَيْهَا مَلَائِكَةٌ غِلَاظٌ شِدَادٌ لَّا يَعْصُونَ اللَّهَ مَا أَمَرَهُمْ وَيَفْعَلُونَ مَا يُؤْمَرُونَ O you who believe! Ward off from yourselves and your families a Fire (Hell) whose fuel is men and stones, over which are (appointed) angels stern (and) severe, who disobey not, (from executing) the Commands they receive from Allah, but do that which they are commanded. Angels cannot disobey Allah and always do what is commanded by Allah while Jinn or Iblis are obviously not like the angels that can disobey Allah like humans can disobey Allah.
@sash2590
@sash2590 3 жыл бұрын
He said about theology jjinns not about jinns in quran. Get your english right
@sash2590
@sash2590 3 жыл бұрын
Cuz some versions of islam thinks th at Jinns are a branch of angels and HE DID say angels is a separate creation
@I-AM-Yousuf
@I-AM-Yousuf 7 ай бұрын
MashAllah learnt alot from your series regarding "Balanced approach to Hadiths", JazakAllah.
@ahmadhisham8888
@ahmadhisham8888 4 жыл бұрын
i don't believe that jins possess, they always tell you that the man who is close to god will never be possessed but yet a lot of muslims claim that they got possessed, but on the other hand atheists who don't even believe in god and not close to him never had one claim of being possessed, so why do muslims and christians get possessed and every religion solves it in there own way and it's seems to work with every religion, but with atheist they never get possessed...
@tshepomasike7662
@tshepomasike7662 4 ай бұрын
Hi, I once asked this exact question, i am Muslim and the answer i was given is that the JINNAT see no need to possess already lost souls (Atheists) but challenge and possess believers (MUSLIMS) to lead them astray
@DeathByDrone-ORmk84
@DeathByDrone-ORmk84 4 жыл бұрын
My question is, why can't Djinn talk to us more clearly? Why don't any of them yearn to let their existence be known, for power, or other reasons? I think back to an old English saying about the devil: "the devil's greatest lie the devil ever told, was the lie that he never existed". Do any of you believe this saying to be true?
@ia285
@ia285 4 жыл бұрын
Jinns as spirit demons do not exist.
@DeathByDrone-ORmk84
@DeathByDrone-ORmk84 4 жыл бұрын
@@ia285 yes, but they have families and languages like us ...
@shadeedahmad6542
@shadeedahmad6542 4 жыл бұрын
ALLAH IS THE BEST KNOWER! ALHAMDULILLAH!
@MegaRizm
@MegaRizm 2 жыл бұрын
There is a viral video about a Russian witch about the Black Magic. In this video the witch said she could not influence Muslims and gave reasons as piety, regular prayers that keep Muslims safe. Why not Dr. Shabbir watch this video and discuss what he feels about it? These things that act as deterrent to Black Magic have not been clearly highlighted by a non Muslim. So this deserves to be discussed.
@ParvezKhan-py5ys
@ParvezKhan-py5ys 7 жыл бұрын
Quran is the criteria. any narratives that go against the Quran must be rejected. However it should be noted that most of the authenticated hadith are reliable as it does not contradict the Quran and has been transmitted with precision
@wieisyassin
@wieisyassin 5 жыл бұрын
Salamouleikoem. 2 years ago you posted this. I am quite interested in your opinion, do you still uphold the pretty high view that most of the "authenticated" hadith has been transmitted with precision? For example how Aisha was to be 6 years old?
@SR_9_
@SR_9_ 5 жыл бұрын
JajaYassin Yes she could have been 6 and that goes in line with the life style of humans 1400 years ago. What’s your actual question about Ayesha though because I don’t think your actual concern is if the hadiths are authentic or not it’s probably more about the age of marriage right?
@saraqostahterra4548
@saraqostahterra4548 5 жыл бұрын
@@SR_9_ I get your approach. But... 1/ Whatever the youngest acceptable age of marriage is now, or was in the time of the prophet (saw) doesn't really matter. What we humans deem to be acceptable or unacceptable cannot determine wether a hadeeth is acceptable or not. Regardless of the day and age we live in. Whatever the prophet (saw) actually did, is justified by Allah, so regardless wether it is acceptable for us or not, in this age or in ancient times, we have to accept it as the prophet (saw) did it. So, arguments about how this was supposedly normal in the time of the prophet (saw) are invalid. 2/ The actual reason that the ahadeeth (that inform us of Aisha's age to be between 6 and 9) are fabricated is because: 1. They totally do not chronologically fit within the timeline of events. 2. The ahadeeth contradicts the Quran. 3. The ahadeeth contradicts the principal teachings of Islam, such as the principal teachings and purposes of marriage in Islam. 4. It goes against reason. With all respect but... Every person that believes that Aisha's age at her marriage to the prophet (saw) was 6 or 9, or anything close to that, has no clue about what marriage is all about in Islam, has no clue of the Quran, has no clue of other ahadeeth, and with all respect, has no clue of what reasoning means.
@wieisyassin
@wieisyassin 5 жыл бұрын
@@SR_9_ With my knowledge of Islam at the moment I take supposed sahih hadith with a grain of salt. Insha Allah I will be more knowledgeable, may God guide us. Regarding Aisha: I'm more comfortable accepting she was not 9 as the most evidence show. If you accept her to be 9, you have to almost reject other hadith in Bukhari. For example: multiple other hadith show her to be 14 - 20 at the time of marriage, if you mathematically deduct this. Furthermore , she isn't even eligible to be pray yet she can merry? So that's why I take hadith with a grain of salt. I've feel like I've been lied to and I feel that some of the mainstream ideologies are a insult to Islam. Allah knows best.
@saraqostahterra4548
@saraqostahterra4548 5 жыл бұрын
@@wieisyassin What your talking about in the end of your comment is a result of the last 100-300 years of spreading ideologies introduced by the arrogance of Muslims and the None-Muslim enemies that throughout history, even in the middle-ages, tried to attack Islam.
@rainmakerartistjourney3615
@rainmakerartistjourney3615 5 жыл бұрын
My question is do you beleive the Hadith about the black puppy is valid or invalid? Rational or irrational , do you believe it is invaild because it seems legandary or extraordinary. Because of its text(matn) does not seem consisitant with other hadith relative to our general practices as Muslim. Thank you
@seconic1639
@seconic1639 7 жыл бұрын
I study medicine and I came to contact in my Psychiatry rotation with people who are schizophrenic. These people exhibit two sets of symptoms, the negative symptoms are depressed but otherwise existing domains with humans, like apathy, loss of interest, alogia, avolition etc. The positive symptoms are delusions, faulty ideas in brain with no rationale or not based on local culture, like the patient thinks the government is trying to control his mind (delusion of control) or someone is gonna kill him (delusion of persecution). Within the positive symptoms, there are the hallucinations, which are precept without stimulus. They can be as simple as flashes or simple knocking sounds, to more extreme like seeing animals or ghosts or hearing people where they are not there.
@NK-bc5xw
@NK-bc5xw 6 жыл бұрын
Jinn possession is real. Dr Shabbir Ally is wrong about Hijab, wrong about age of Aisha RZ at the time of marriage and wrong about Jinns.
@krow3416
@krow3416 5 жыл бұрын
Saying its wrong without disproving it is just showing us nothing
@craycray507
@craycray507 Жыл бұрын
why don’t you come on TV and prove that he’s wrong?
@NK-bc5xw
@NK-bc5xw Жыл бұрын
@@craycray507 Have you read Surah Jinn. If you think that Jinn possession is not true, you have to go long ways in learning. And if you also think that coming on TV equates to being right, then you have to go long ways in learning about Islam.
@craycray507
@craycray507 Жыл бұрын
@@NK-bc5xw thank you. That’s a very weak argument on your part 😂 and you have no idea of who I am and how I learnt islam. Surah Jinn acknowledges of existence of this creature, does not mention posession. The video is not about denying their existence but what we think they do. And I don’t think they posess people. Neither do I deny that they exist 👍🏼
@tshepomasike7662
@tshepomasike7662 4 ай бұрын
@@craycray507 mxm i wish i took a video of the possessed boy in 2009
@mohdrazali9117
@mohdrazali9117 3 жыл бұрын
I'm suffer by jinn posession 19 year i lost everything in my life...i hope all muslim in entire world could help me...plez ..i hope i get my right back..
@rosariakhaled6138
@rosariakhaled6138 3 жыл бұрын
Allah Karim bless you. Amen
@Sheifaa
@Sheifaa 3 жыл бұрын
here to read the comments saying , i have expereinced it, i have seen my cousin my aunt my uncle..... open your eyes!!!!its mental ilness, if the is was so important it would be in the quran
@saqibsheikh2790
@saqibsheikh2790 7 жыл бұрын
Salam I have deep respect for Dr Ally. Perhaps in the future you can do a video on the accusation of cherry-picking hadith to fit your own selective world view, because that accusation will surely be hurled at you?
@irwincrook567
@irwincrook567 6 жыл бұрын
Saqib Sheikh He explained that many Hadith don't sound true from what he has gathered information from the Qur'an about the Prophet pbuh. And he bases his logic on that. Not cherry picking. As I understand it... Qur'an is the ultimate truth and Hadith can only help us understand Qur'an, not make a new view of the Prophet pbuh or the religion. Hearsay used to be stronger in the times of no Internet to cross check. And Hadith like Sahih Bukhari was compiled 200 years after Prophet pbuh by a scholar called Bukhari from present Uzbekistan who travelled to Arab world to gather his Hadith collections. It was quite possible many people believed in wide accepted hearsay and passed it on.
@mirror0images
@mirror0images 6 жыл бұрын
if Jinns prefer a hot climate would Jahanam even be punishment for them (the sinful)
@capo2076
@capo2076 6 жыл бұрын
D im a human your a human if i slap you in your face will it hurt? Enough said
@SR_9_
@SR_9_ 5 жыл бұрын
It’s also a different type of fire. Jinns are smokeless fire so that can be interpreted as many different types of form one being just energy. Jahanam fire is very different as it is unimaginably more hotter than actual fire.
@S....................1
@S....................1 3 жыл бұрын
Jahanam fire is a different tyee of fire and from which jinn are made from (smokeless fire)is a different type
@608756
@608756 6 жыл бұрын
Dr. Shabir Ally with all due respect, there are things you need to see especially in Africa. There are lots of thing happening here which you might miss in Canada. Jin possession is actually real. People I know experienced it. It's very different from psychiatric problems. You really need to come see it yourself. I am sure you will change your mind.
@irwincrook567
@irwincrook567 6 жыл бұрын
Dream Work shut up!
@Altavian
@Altavian 6 жыл бұрын
its common in the west also, he is blind to all but his own rationality
@rayyanamir8560
@rayyanamir8560 4 жыл бұрын
@@Altavian fake imams who are known to cast of jinns are common, not the jinns. Lol
@umar-farukadama8839
@umar-farukadama8839 2 жыл бұрын
Haven’t you wondered why it’s only very common in Africa ? (Maybe we have beliefs that reinforce this idea ? Lol)
@masshaka
@masshaka 6 жыл бұрын
These days sheikhs seem to know everything and without hesitation giving ambigous answeres. Abu hanifa once said. To say i dont know is part of education. I like dr shabir but am disapointed on these issues.
@Nikah-uf6xj
@Nikah-uf6xj 4 жыл бұрын
When Ahmad ibn Hanbal’s son asked him regarding people who deny the possibility of the entry of jinn into human beings - Imam Ahmad replied to his son, saying “they lie, rather, it is the shayateen themselves who speak on their tongues”
@tao2007
@tao2007 3 жыл бұрын
Cool, did you ever read Kitab as Sunnah, which says that Allahs feet are resting over the Kursi? Stay on Qal Allah, Qala RasulAllah, Sahaba. Ahmad ibn Hanbal and his son arent even Tabi'in. Allah yadeek.
@o56_idress_ahmed_ee32
@o56_idress_ahmed_ee32 3 жыл бұрын
Who is Ahmed bin Hanbal to be reliable
@Nikah-uf6xj
@Nikah-uf6xj 3 жыл бұрын
Ahmed Ibn Hanbal was a Great islamic Scholar who based his opinion on Quran and authentic Sunnah. Dr Shahir is Dr Shabir from Canada who has a youtube channel and his family interviews him. Let's not joke around
@tao2007
@tao2007 3 жыл бұрын
@@Nikah-uf6xj Imam Malik was a greater Scholer and what did he say?: from every man you can accept or refute, except this man (pointed with the finger to RasulAllahs grave)
@Nikah-uf6xj
@Nikah-uf6xj 3 жыл бұрын
@@tao2007 Better tell that to your Dr Shabir Ally. He is the one who is ignoring the Quran evidence and hadiths . He is denying everything from possession to magic. Does not even believe that magic was done on Prophet PBUH. If something does not fit their logic , Quran is interpreted differently and hadith are rejected authentic or not
@AtifAli
@AtifAli 5 жыл бұрын
With all due respect sir... please read Quran Surah 2 verse 275
@abidmajeed6156
@abidmajeed6156 4 жыл бұрын
With all due respect sir ..... please learn Arabic first and then read tafseer from authentic source then you will realize what you have read in urdu, english or any other language is not exactly the meaning of the verse.
@AtifAli
@AtifAli 4 жыл бұрын
@@abidmajeed6156 Do you know the meaning of authentic source? Do you know the meaning of Tafsir? Let me try to explain.. 1-in order for you to authenticate a written text you need to trace it back to the person who wrote it. Do you have the book that Bukhari wrote? No! The oldest known book of Hadith is less than 800 years old and is definitely not written by Bukhari. 2nd Problem, is Oral transmission and translation. There was not a single Hadith that was written during life of our Prophet Muhammad صل اللہ علیہ وسلم Writing of Hadith started 285 years later when none of the Sahabi was alive. Proof? There is not a single Hadith writing that can be scientifically traced back to 6th century or 7th century or even 8th centuries.. So we have ther collection of Hadith..some maybe word to word but many are not. Which is why you need to check Hadith against Quran and accept anything that is favored by Quran
@abidmajeed6156
@abidmajeed6156 4 жыл бұрын
​@@AtifAli I know where you are coming from ... But do you think reading the translation Quran in any other language will serve the purpose with out understanding the language and culture in which it is revealed ?
@AtifAli
@AtifAli 4 жыл бұрын
@@abidmajeed6156 Who said you just have to read translation? We are living in Information age. You can use number of dictionaries and learn meaning of Arabic words used in Quran, compare meaning with existing translations and figure out what is the best meaning.. You need to understand one thing about Islam and Quran. Unlike Christianity and other religions there is no intermediary in Islam we have direct connections with Allah through his book Quran. When you read Quran with sincerity Allah opens your heart and it will make sense to you.. if you are skeptical and think that you will need someone else to explain Quran then you will not benefit. That is all I am saying. You can read all other books and listen to every Shaikh out there but your first obligation is to read and understand Quran so no one can misguide you in the name of Islam.
@mahfuzh5726
@mahfuzh5726 3 жыл бұрын
It’s about riba lol
@FHDCREATIONS
@FHDCREATIONS 5 жыл бұрын
I totally disagree with this. It's misleading. And wait, Did he just say that there is a possibility that Jinn are a branch of Angels? 😭😭😭😂😂😂😂
@hodanc6526
@hodanc6526 5 жыл бұрын
Fgd yes he says some are angels you know this is not true as you know there sura call suratu jinn as you said he is misleading and they keep lasting someone must stop this guy
@fknthng
@fknthng 5 жыл бұрын
Jinn are not angels...jinn were made of smokeless fire...there are different types of jinn..some are just like humans have families,some are religious other are not...then there are shaytans,Ifrit that are in christianity demons and finally Iblis Who is to some considered to Be lucifer in christianity...this is very misleading and the lack of proper knowledge on this subject is unnerving...hopefully this man is not am imam.
@DeathByDrone-ORmk84
@DeathByDrone-ORmk84 4 жыл бұрын
I thought he was referring to the CHRISTIAN belief of what angels are! A Muslim would never call Djinn angels!
@DeathByDrone-ORmk84
@DeathByDrone-ORmk84 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheDrRow iblis was an angel... I don't think that's the argument! The argument is about the "fallen angels" he's referring to! Iblis deformed himself, I suppose...when he didn't one God.
@abuthetruthfull
@abuthetruthfull 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheDrRow he was raised to the status of angel by allah
@mosh1881
@mosh1881 4 жыл бұрын
Isn't black magic a form of Jinn possession? Didn't people try to use black magic on the prophet PBUH. There is a Surah in the Quran called 'Al Jinn'. Why has the guy dismissed everything as a medical problem?! If someone's behavior/attitudes changes overnight then it is not a medical problem!
@ashikurshahriar2876
@ashikurshahriar2876 4 жыл бұрын
I have watched some videos on this channel.Now it is clear to me that dr shabir is misguiding people.Jinns are clearly not angels.They are completely different entity.But dr shabir here is confused whether jinns are angels or not.The whole discussion is Against Quran and Hadith
@maxxammedhus.468
@maxxammedhus.468 4 жыл бұрын
ashikur Shahriar Jin & Insi are free will creatures and were made to worship Allah and they are tested in order for them to be awarded or rewarded for their good and bad deeds. Angeles are not free will creatures who may disobey Allah’s commandment but to serve and worship Allah with no hesitation no matter what.
@atwaterkent911
@atwaterkent911 7 жыл бұрын
This video disturbs me and causes me to lose respect for Dr Ally. To say that a hadith is problematic shows lack of faith and knowledge of our Deen. For those like me that have had glimpses of the Unseen (e.g. "seeing" Jinn, etc), we KNOW that there is so much power of MIND, both positive and negative. A bad thought and be destructive for self and others, just as a Dua can be healing for self and others. For those who have "seen" the Unseen, we KNOW how interconnected Thought can be. So to say that an "evil eye" is not real shows lack of Faith and Knowledge in and of the Unseen.
@AlexOjideagu2
@AlexOjideagu2 7 жыл бұрын
atwaterkent911 He is using his brain and rational questioning ideas and beliefs. That's what your religion teaches
@flightofsight4343
@flightofsight4343 7 жыл бұрын
Perhaps Dr. Ally does not believe in the Isra wal Mi'raj as well.
@dzomar4299
@dzomar4299 6 жыл бұрын
well said
@destinylord7194
@destinylord7194 6 жыл бұрын
FlightOfSight source?????
@fidelcatsro6948
@fidelcatsro6948 5 жыл бұрын
what glimpes did you see amigo?
@mustaqimahmad2657
@mustaqimahmad2657 2 жыл бұрын
Sister honestly I like your last smile on advertisement. May Allah bless you and grant you all the best and may He allow to keep smiling all the way.
@m-i_
@m-i_ 4 жыл бұрын
Dr, Thanks for the Info about problematic hadiths and using Qur'an as the true authority.Please go on Mindtrap with Mufti Abu Layth Al-Maliki again! Some of your views are like his reasonable views.
@Meese29
@Meese29 3 жыл бұрын
I watched the Mindtrap thing a while back it's great seriously!!
@Adolf_wizzermen
@Adolf_wizzermen 3 жыл бұрын
They are not angels nor look like angels but another creation of unseen.
@morfiiin08
@morfiiin08 6 жыл бұрын
I disagree with his rationality argument. The existence of Jinn is irrational. That does not mean it is not true. We can't see Jinn or hear them as far as I know. That does not mean they don't exist. Even in science there are things that you might view are irrational but still are there. For example, there are many types of light we can't see with our eyes. Infra red for example is not visible to the human eye, but it still exists. Just because something might not be rational from one point of view does not mean we can push it away.
@ladyz2655
@ladyz2655 5 жыл бұрын
Yes but infrared light is proved scientifically and there is evidence for it. And the existence of jinns is mentioned and established in the Qur'an which is why Muslims believe it, but possession isn't clearly established in the Qur'an at all. It isn't said anywhere in there that jinn can possess any human.
@Amaadification
@Amaadification 5 жыл бұрын
Exactly..this guy uses science to decipher what his rationality is in the first place.
@abdihakimsuleiman5856
@abdihakimsuleiman5856 3 жыл бұрын
I just want say. Thanks for the video. There are so much misleading when it comes to this subject. And a lot of venerable people. This is due to lack of basic understanding of Islam and Allah. We are responsible being therefore accountable for whatever we do. Allah also promised us his protection. Therefore Jinns shayatins can not physically make you do things, but merely suggestions. ( Wiswaas). Power of suggestions is what magicians and hypnosis use to control some people’s minds Never the less you can be protected and be free of this kind of mind conversations. Remembers of Allah. And ask protection only him. Jinns shaytiins are only trying to scare use so we think they are better and more powerful then us. Walaahi they are as strong as a child with a lower IQ then a child and fear us because the honour Allah gave us and his protection May Allah protect us Allah from the evil within and outside.
@elkapitan75
@elkapitan75 5 жыл бұрын
Very very interesting points. As a Muslim with limited knowledge I'm trying to fact check what Dr Shabir said about jinn with verses in the Quran. I'm recalling the surah about Moses and the Pharaoh's magicians.. And Surah Al Jinn...(both mentioned by Dr Shabir). But I also know that in the Quran syaitan will say to the dwellers of Hell that he did not will or make them follow him; that they followed him on their own will; and that he cannot help them and neither can the dwellers help him on judgement day. So if we say jinn can possess humans at any time does it mean jinns are more powerful than syaitan (the most powerful evil jinn)? Does it mean we don't have free will? So these do go against Islam. But then what about ruqyah? I know in my country the belief in jinn is so strong that we commit shirk easily. We say don't go to that tree or don't go into the jungle because of "spirits"...so much so that we fear jinns more than Allah! Definitely something to ponder upon. The take away from this is Allah is the most high and to go back to our Quran. May Allah guide us.
@suaydibrahym718
@suaydibrahym718 5 жыл бұрын
Shabir ally is wrong.. who the hell he is challenging our Salafs joking about their intellect! JINN CAN POSSESS HUMANS, AND IT HAPPENS WITH THE WILL OF ALLAH. WE HAVE GUARDIAN ANGELS TO PROTECT US FROM THEM ALSO WE R PRESCRIBED TO TAKE PRECAUTIONARY MEASURES AGAINST THEIR EVIL. TO OBEY ALLAH TO MAKE MORNING & EVENING AZKAAR. so they cant harm us. ALLAH may cause them to possess us bc we disobeyed Him or for just to test us. For this world is a test.
@Gulfraz.
@Gulfraz. 5 жыл бұрын
@@suaydibrahym718 you are going to make yourself believe in this so much the more you focus on it. Its actually quite unhealthy. You shouldn't scare yourself or others into worshipping Allah which is what it seems people have done over the years with these stories. Simply put, it's just a misunderstanding of how to deal with people with mental health issues. Has been quicker and easier for people to label people as possessed rather than look at the reason why they are stressed or having issues
@maxxammedhus.468
@maxxammedhus.468 4 жыл бұрын
I would suggest to Dr Shabir that he should not take the root and approach of the so called Muslim Reformists because they are definitely worrying about what some academics who don’t believe Allah would think about Islam and that is too bad. Disclaimer, I know there’s exaggerations and false diagnosis and also business aspects into this field. Allah knows the best.
@bushraanjum7175
@bushraanjum7175 4 жыл бұрын
I was told by someone that I have a possession of jinn but he is there to protect me. the person also told me that he can't free me because the jinn has been with me from a long time and that he is there to protect me so I want to ask that is it possible that a jinn has possessed me to protect me? Plzz someone reply
@AishaKhan-pu9ih
@AishaKhan-pu9ih 4 жыл бұрын
No not at all. Please watch Abu Ibraheem Husnayn and Muhammed Tim Humble. If you watch that's enough to know about jinn possession /black magic/ayn, how to do ruqya, how to spot Magcians. One of them have a full Ruqya course and diaries of an exorcist those two were enough form me. (You can find this on Abu Ibraheem channel)
@Adi-AD
@Adi-AD 3 жыл бұрын
No. Allah is the only protector!
@faariskahn3660
@faariskahn3660 7 жыл бұрын
This man is an expert in comparative religion not ruqya لكل فن رجالevery field his it's men... Or women for that matter This is not his field
@faariskahn3660
@faariskahn3660 7 жыл бұрын
Has its men I mean
@dzomar4299
@dzomar4299 6 жыл бұрын
well said
@dawoodhafeez2485
@dawoodhafeez2485 5 жыл бұрын
Faaris Kahn what a terrible comment
@rayyanamir8560
@rayyanamir8560 4 жыл бұрын
When ghosts don't exist, what's the point of learning Ruqya?. Go spend money on those fraud maulvis who claim to cast you off from ghosts that don't exist.
@ডাঃউচ্ছ্বাস
@ডাঃউচ্ছ্বাস 4 жыл бұрын
Because it will ruin your business/career?
@matikhorasani3842
@matikhorasani3842 6 жыл бұрын
I am absolutely shocked to see such an esteemed scholar deny Jinn possession. Jinn possession is something very real and in fact can be very dangerous at times.
@irwincrook567
@irwincrook567 6 жыл бұрын
Mati khorasani No it's not. I am a Doctor and have seen many patients come up to me after trying exorcism and failing, thinking the patient was possessed by jinn. Finally, we treat them with anti-psychotics and they show improvement.
@irwincrook567
@irwincrook567 6 жыл бұрын
Mati khorasani No it's not. I am a Doctor and have seen many patients come up to me after trying exorcism and failing, thinking the patient was possessed by jinn. Finally, we treat them with anti-psychotics and they show improvement.
@matikhorasani3842
@matikhorasani3842 6 жыл бұрын
Irwin Crook Those are in cases of mental problems. In cases of Jinn possession no amount of medicine in the world will help you. A Muslim who deals with jinn and stuff can very easily know if it's jinn possession or some sort of mental problem.
@Darweysh
@Darweysh 6 жыл бұрын
+Mati khorasani: provide your proofs from Qur'an and hadith, so we can understand it better, don't quote stories of relatives or others, those are subjective experiences of people which are not objective for others. provide a solid proof from Qur'an and Sunnah where it is said that Jinns can control the physical actions of human beings.
@mirror0images
@mirror0images 6 жыл бұрын
If Jinns (which I believe can just whisper, be seen and take on human form) could literally posses people (not through compulsion) then wouldn’t all the „kufar“ in the „west“ be possessed? why doesn’t it happen here? why just to the muslims? also why would Iblis have turned to whispering to Adam not just possessed him? why would the Quran always only write about whispering, compulsion? why would Allah not warn us? Allah does not forget and the quran is complete. Jinns however were already part of the pagan beliefe system/culture before Islam came and just as we see with amulets (against evilneye) us humans tend to not let go of our culture even when things are forbidden
@sirajalghuraba
@sirajalghuraba 7 жыл бұрын
vary logical approach- i totally agree
@Mohamad_Kader
@Mohamad_Kader 7 жыл бұрын
Wadeea Ali same
@lighttheoryllc4337
@lighttheoryllc4337 4 жыл бұрын
Assalamualaikum
@BAFREMAUXSOORMALLY
@BAFREMAUXSOORMALLY 4 жыл бұрын
IF THE HADITH IS "Problematic", WHY DON'T YOU JUST LEAVE IT ALONE???
@elmasmono4962
@elmasmono4962 3 жыл бұрын
Are the possessed sensitive to light according to islamic beliefs?
@syed9855
@syed9855 3 жыл бұрын
Where does the Quran say that Jinns are branch of Angels... Whaaaatttt??? They are separate creation made from Fire and Angels from Light
@debd8100
@debd8100 3 жыл бұрын
Alhamdulillah, I am pleased after watching this video. He explained the matter very clearly.
@LethalFusionPicture
@LethalFusionPicture 6 жыл бұрын
I disagree with him watch billal Phillips lecture about exorcism. He only picked one unauthenticated Hadith there are other too. In Tafsir of Sura Al Falaq we can see hint to possession and there is a Hadith in sahih Muslim no 2186.
@mymuslimthoughts6903
@mymuslimthoughts6903 6 жыл бұрын
LagacyOfGlory Billal Phillpis is a Salafi.
@mirror0images
@mirror0images 6 жыл бұрын
you should be focused on hadiths but the Quran, Allahs words weigh heavier than humans don’t you think?
@awakenthegreatnesswithin
@awakenthegreatnesswithin 3 жыл бұрын
Did he just say some Jinns are Ángels 🤔🤣 where did he get this from.
@KikoLatte
@KikoLatte 5 жыл бұрын
The black puppy part got me cracking up hard!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@Sultan11-MF
@Sultan11-MF 6 жыл бұрын
So jinns don't have any control over humans .
@aleksanderblinn4492
@aleksanderblinn4492 6 жыл бұрын
They do this guy is giving his opiniondont tsje it for fact cos he is wearing a hat
@Procrastinators
@Procrastinators 5 жыл бұрын
@@aleksanderblinn4492 so I could kill someone and pretend to be possessed? Then blame the jinn?
@calmpassenger
@calmpassenger 5 жыл бұрын
Adam Dz hahaha
@mirror0images
@mirror0images 4 жыл бұрын
@@aleksanderblinn4492 by the will of Allah they cant contoll us! They can only whisper. Allahu'allem
@sayyedtech9340
@sayyedtech9340 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks alot for your clear and vivid information..thats what I have been arguing "the prophet (pbuh) would have been at the for front of this cmplicated job of removing demons" but fortunately there is not a single authentic narration if such matter..thanks again to our light from Canada ..viva Dr shabir .long may u live ...
@dawahtube136
@dawahtube136 7 жыл бұрын
Could be that the jin took the form of a dog once it was out
@ravshanormsby
@ravshanormsby 4 жыл бұрын
Yes.
@hbsblkk3842
@hbsblkk3842 3 жыл бұрын
Lol cmon guys.
@IslamicTalk1
@IslamicTalk1 7 жыл бұрын
Shaykh Ibn ‘Uthaymeen (rahimullah) said: “Undoubtedly the jinn can have a harmful effect on humans, and they could even kill them. They may harm a person by throwing stones at him or by trying to terrify him.”
@michaeljohn4629
@michaeljohn4629 7 жыл бұрын
For context, this Sheikh is a Salafi scholar and believes Muslim women should not use pain-relieving medication during labour because he believes it's a plot against Muslims to reduce birth rate.
@worldpeace8824
@worldpeace8824 7 жыл бұрын
I think we have a christian jinn in the comments trying to deceive as usual.
@mohammedkhan6818
@mohammedkhan6818 7 жыл бұрын
Abd Allah please provide proof for what you say regarding sheikh Uthaymeen
@Darweysh
@Darweysh 6 жыл бұрын
+Mansaf Mushtaq: just because a reputable scholar said, it does not make it a fact. can you tell me where he says that so i can check his reasons behind this belief? or you can let us know his reasons here.
@mrbacker5780
@mrbacker5780 6 жыл бұрын
Read 14:22 please
@billcaan4192
@billcaan4192 3 жыл бұрын
Allow it he don't believe in evil eye Jinn possession nothing where does he get his islam from. And no wonder only his daughter interviews him anyone else eud question him
@Aurum2734
@Aurum2734 6 жыл бұрын
Misleading
@joshuawainner787
@joshuawainner787 7 жыл бұрын
Shabir Ally, giving Muslims permission to be rational since 1978.
@aleksanderblinn4492
@aleksanderblinn4492 6 жыл бұрын
@@holdshiftt2run308 indeed
@joelgoodlet
@joelgoodlet 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Mo found that helpful
@diaralcasanibrahim6582
@diaralcasanibrahim6582 5 жыл бұрын
It is not a problematic hadith but problematic people of not reading & understanding the Quran as Allah's swt Only & Ultimate Purpose, Law & Guidance of Life for all of Mankind from Adam till end of time, Only Path to Eternal Life in Heaven. Why rely on people when Quran is there complete & perfect for anyone to study, understand & follow. Allah swt is with us to guide us to what we knew not. That is clear in the Quran. Prophet Muhammad pbuh never had said something outside of the Quran for people to believe he being forbidden in Quran 7:3 & 69:44-46. Subhanallah! Allahu'akbar! Subhanallah! Allahu'akbar!
@samven582
@samven582 6 жыл бұрын
Where can I find that Hadith?
@zareengulabi9569
@zareengulabi9569 7 жыл бұрын
Jins are not angels.Angels are made of light and Jins are made of smoke. Don't get confused sir
@theequalizerbro389
@theequalizerbro389 6 жыл бұрын
Zareen GULABI smokeless flame... Smokeless flame mate...
@AmeerHamza-hw7cf
@AmeerHamza-hw7cf 6 жыл бұрын
Smokeless fire or heat.
@fidelcatsro6948
@fidelcatsro6948 5 жыл бұрын
hahaha confused lady
@didarulkarim7644
@didarulkarim7644 5 жыл бұрын
I am 100% agree with you that he said wrong about it
@peacepeace2379
@peacepeace2379 3 жыл бұрын
Is the Hadith mentioned in this video authentic or not? There was no discussion about that. Calling a Hadith problematic is a problem within itself. There are several categories of Hadith; none of them are known as problematic. A Hadith is either sahih, Hassan, weak, fabricated etc etc. So discussion must move around those categories to convince people of knowledge about particular Hadith. It’s unfair to call it problematic and leave it there. I am not saying Jin possession is real or not. I am also trying to learn about this topic. But I want to learn it with more logical and proper reasoning
@DBUification
@DBUification 3 жыл бұрын
Hadith are rated by Islamic scholars (normal human beings). There is a probability of them making mistakes or maintaining a Hadith to suit a particular social or political ideology (depending on the time frame in which they lived), or that they may have believed something to be true which was not. We must learn to carefully distinguish between rejecting a statement of prophet Muhammad SAW (which is kufr), and questioning a statement which ALLEGEDLY came from the prophet that does not make rational sense or contradicts the Quran and other Hadith.
@riaaduddin4813
@riaaduddin4813 4 жыл бұрын
Is this saying widespread in the states problematic hadith fear ALLAH and watch what you say. It is either authentic weak or fabricated use the correct terminology. There's no such thing as problematic hadith stop using this term. If a hadith is sahih and one says its problematic that is dangerous and only a munafiq should use such terms about sahih ahadith.
@dashcamtraveller4236
@dashcamtraveller4236 4 жыл бұрын
I question this man's aqeedah! Jinns are a separate creation from the Angels, they do not possess the qualities and attributes of Angels. As for Jinn possessions, they do happen and there are reasons why it happens, these facts are well documented throughout history. If human beings can control other human beings through mind-control techniques, why can the Jinns not do the same since they are also intelligent beings with free-will? Also why could the Jinns not posses humans physically considering they do not have a physical form and humans do. He's reasoning that the Quran didn't mention Jesus expelling demons is completely irrational. That's what happens when you put aql before naql, your religion becomes watered down, like the religions of those that came before us. The problem is the outlook of people, especially living in modern the times everything has to fit into a "rational" frame-work otherwise its not acceptable. It is far easier, rational and reasonable for me to accept Jinn possessions over Alien abduction.
@Feisabeilillah
@Feisabeilillah 4 жыл бұрын
Brother i am meeting these guys now everyday who say jinns dont possess they can only whisper,i am confused
@dashcamtraveller4236
@dashcamtraveller4236 4 жыл бұрын
@@Feisabeilillah , Bro, Jinn possessions are true and the evidence for it are overwhelming over the centuries but each case has to be assessed on its own merits by experts in the field who are well versed in the knowledge of the deen and also understand human psychological issues. Those that deny it, they're are in denial of the dark world of magic and evil. So, don't worry about them.
@mombasa7
@mombasa7 3 жыл бұрын
@@Feisabeilillah don't waste your time in this superstition! Go see a doctor...jinn experts are charlatans who make money ...
@MoBahar687
@MoBahar687 3 жыл бұрын
Regarding the Angel and Jinn statement, i think he meant it as a complete different creation and just showed example by using Angels. Also, I believe in Jinn possession but i also believe 90% of those claiming Possession is definitely a Mental Health issue that should be diagnosed by a professional psychiatrist . Exorcism should be the very last last option. Don't let the unseen world take over your mind... It will make you a paranoid person who is easily manipulated by Conspiracies etc.
@billcaan4192
@billcaan4192 3 жыл бұрын
Don't listen to this man he even said evil eye does not exist bcs science shows u can't harm anyone by looking at them.. I'm confused where he gets his knowledge from bcs no other real scholar seems to say what he says
@muslim5067
@muslim5067 3 жыл бұрын
Shabir Ally is very good with comparative religion but don't understand that Jinn can take shapes of animals like dogs, monkeys etc. They manifest themselves in this form. It is not a real puppy which left the body according to the Story.. It is, actually a jinn who left in the form of a puppy. Those who studied the behaviour of jinn will conquer. Please Dr Shabir consult with the experts.
@hammadqasimsiddiqi6717
@hammadqasimsiddiqi6717 3 жыл бұрын
This guy is an example of the sign of the day of judgement of so called “scholars” who will try to change the deen to please the people and undo the deen. Same dude says music is halal and hijab is not obligatory 😂, y’all still listen to this Shabir Ally ?
@AeromaticXD
@AeromaticXD 3 жыл бұрын
You can’t refer to any scholar you disagree with like this. Show some adab and stay humble.
@boubakar2010
@boubakar2010 7 жыл бұрын
Jazaka allahu al khayr sheikh ❤
@somalitalk8383
@somalitalk8383 2 жыл бұрын
Why does dr.shabir say jins are a brance of angels at the beginning of the video , when clearly the quran stated " the angels bowed to Adam except ibliis, he was of the JINS " . Clearly the quran does not count jins as brance of angels but jins are jins and angels are angels. 2 different things clearly,. Dr.shabir should stop the confusing and stick to the words of the quran. Its going the wrong direction with dr.shabjr
@mohammadhaque1023
@mohammadhaque1023 6 жыл бұрын
How come so many scholars were deceived?
@irwincrook567
@irwincrook567 6 жыл бұрын
Muhammad Haque How come 80% of the world is decieved and not even Muslim?? Give it a thought
@hamzatniyi3541
@hamzatniyi3541 2 жыл бұрын
This man seems to be a hadith sceptic and his bias is very obvious. Calling believes Jinns irrational is not something a scholar should say. May Allah guide us.
@fazalahmed2329
@fazalahmed2329 4 жыл бұрын
Well, there have been real cases of possessed people speaking entirely foreign languages while exorcizing , even cases of exactly the episode of dog vomiting , etc.. There have been extensive research by very learned scholars on this subject even having doctorates on the subject subscribing for the existence of Jinn and their evil effects on humans... I opine with due respects to this scholar that there are lots and lots more on this subject... sura Al Baqara v 275 speaks about the touch of Shaithan when speaking about Riba.
@----f
@----f 3 жыл бұрын
There's also cases similar with people on psychedelics, speaking and reading foreign languages
@aksauslu6439
@aksauslu6439 3 жыл бұрын
It's not psychedelic, not all of them. There was a news about a British man speaking Chinese even though he's never been in China, never had a Chinese friends, did not even have any Chinese word in his memories or any dictionary when he woke up. So some cases can be fake but generalizing the situation do not lead us about it
@zukied4817
@zukied4817 6 ай бұрын
It seems difficult to understand Islamic religion and what it stands for than Christianity, let alone that Islamic attacks the Bible instead. But i do know also that the bible does warm about false prophets, strangely Muhammed is not in the Bible, could he be one of those flase prophets since it says Jesus never die, he was not the one on the cross and all? While the Bible is about Salvatiin of humankind from sin of Adam and Eve.
@Mpostana
@Mpostana 6 жыл бұрын
I respect Shabir, finally Muslims are beginning to challenge their religion. You can never rationalise the irrational without losing your credibility as a scholar..... Jesus is Lord
@S....................1
@S....................1 3 жыл бұрын
😂
@holdshiftt2run308
@holdshiftt2run308 6 жыл бұрын
I did't know Shabyr Ali was the Quran.
@SARAHIJAZ
@SARAHIJAZ 6 жыл бұрын
I like Mr Shabhir Ally's Lectures
@bodymind195
@bodymind195 7 жыл бұрын
I'm a psychiatrst for 30 yrs...our research fully corroborate...JazakAllah...
@usamanawaz1126
@usamanawaz1126 4 жыл бұрын
And How many patients u have cured and how much patients u have wronged due to negating this factor/dimension think sometime while alone.
@ashaariahmad708
@ashaariahmad708 4 жыл бұрын
ibnu abbas is the only companion that able to see prophet khidir and confirm with our prophet. thus thre is chances that Ibnu abbas have a different way of looking into this world
@drindrin4926
@drindrin4926 5 жыл бұрын
I've seen someone face change and said what's up Gilbert
@nasseraljaber40
@nasseraljaber40 4 жыл бұрын
Jin posession is a myth
@mosh1881
@mosh1881 4 жыл бұрын
There's a Surah in the Quran called 'Al Jinn'!
@nasseraljaber40
@nasseraljaber40 4 жыл бұрын
@@mosh1881 jin do exist but they do not posses human beings
@stainz1up679
@stainz1up679 3 жыл бұрын
@@nasseraljaber40 Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyah, mufti menk, farooq ibn uthman, sheikh ibn baz (one of the greatest scholars of our time), sheikh assim Al hakim have all spoken on Jin possession. They are scholars Shabir ally is an iman. I’ve literally experienced sihr myself... if you wanna disregard the general consensus of the Islamic scholars worldwide past and present because of a 10 minute KZbin video from an iman you really need better ways of seeking knowledge.
@realislaamcom
@realislaamcom 3 жыл бұрын
@@stainz1up679 excellent point, well said
@Schizophrenic176
@Schizophrenic176 3 жыл бұрын
The ad was awesome, islam net
@mhuuudhaarrarhhhmmmez4829
@mhuuudhaarrarhhhmmmez4829 2 жыл бұрын
There is truth in a large majority of ahadeeth.. though yet there are some plausible which are entirely untrue.. so is even to which purpose it provided -whether where gives for thought or instructs or enlightens a part or full affect.. If you were possessed by a jinn - you would '*TRAUMATISED*' _(MIND THE FALSE MEDIA!)
@fahass2
@fahass2 7 жыл бұрын
This guy is too smart for the average consumer of this content - this is why you believe he hates Hadith and such. I suggest those of you who are confused by his content to redirect yourselves to scholars who are geared towards the average layman such as Mufti Menk. If you think this man rejects ahadith and is starting a new movement you are not conceptualizing what he is saying and it's better for you to move on to other scholars.
@roberthannah7983
@roberthannah7983 5 жыл бұрын
Agreed - except dont send people to Menk!
@idontknowyou876
@idontknowyou876 3 жыл бұрын
Refreshing to hear the other more rational side of Islam
@khanimania
@khanimania 2 жыл бұрын
In my life i seen 3 times jins openly day time with my friends.
@faheemmm5183
@faheemmm5183 2 жыл бұрын
how do you know its jinn ?
@khanimania
@khanimania 2 жыл бұрын
@@faheemmm5183 both time over 3 people witness, and we don't drink and twice was day time.
@faheemmm5183
@faheemmm5183 2 жыл бұрын
@@khanimania quran and sunnah didnt explain to us the appearance of jinn ( correct me if i am wrong ) . then how do you know what you saw is jinn ? how are they different from humans ?
@khanimania
@khanimania 2 жыл бұрын
@@faheemmm5183 allah explained their existence in Quran and in hadith we have events about them. They are also those who are muslim and non Muslim, they live a longer life and they have their groups. I believe what i saw was them, because i say them in day time and disappearing. ALLAH'S CREATION is also that which we can see or not yet explored.
@edriskadil6473
@edriskadil6473 5 жыл бұрын
Brother Sabir, your understanding of the verse 5 in Surah Almaida is problematic. Please read and study the tafseer of the said ayah ((يَا أَيُّهَا الرَّسُولُ بَلِّغْ مَا أُنزِلَ إِلَيْكَ مِن رَّبِّكَ ۖ وَإِن لَّمْ تَفْعَلْ فَمَا بَلَّغْتَ رِسَالَتَهُ ۚ وَاللَّهُ يَعْصِمُكَ مِنَ النَّاسِ ۗ إِنَّ اللَّهَ لَا يَهْدِي الْقَوْمَ الْكَافِرِينَ (67 )) O Messenger, announce that which has been revealed to you from your Lord, and if you do not, then you have not conveyed His message. And Allah will protect you from the people. Indeed, Allah does not guide the disbelieving people. " Your understanding of wallahu yahsimuka Allah will protect you and nothing can harm the Prophet Muhammad(S.A.W.)? Prophet Muhammad(S.A.W.) was harmed or injured in the battle of Uhud, what happened to his teeth? Prophet Muhammad(S.A.W.) experienced fever, sickness,etc. Sihir can harm people by the permisson of Allah to increase the rewards of the muslim who is harm and to increase the Punishment of who did the sihir. In the said Authentic hadith Prophet Muhammad(S.A.W.) was harmed but Allah protected him by healing him after applying the two Surah Muawwidath. In the said verse Allah told Prophet Muhammad(S.A.W.) to protect his life so that Allah's messages and religion will be completed. It menas Allah will protect his life and mission even he was going to be harmed physically and mentally by his People . You can not misapply the said verse to judge the said Authentic hadith as Problematic because your understanding of the said verse is problematic and bias.
@abdullah_alrai
@abdullah_alrai 5 жыл бұрын
salmun ala man iteb3 al huda..., first of all, i must say i do like his videos.. but at the same time i see him leaning towards other faiths when explain Islamic beliefs and concepts.. and here is another example of this, when he said Jinn are branch of Angels.. (kinda of supporting the ideas of Jews/Christians where they believe that Diablos/Iblis was falling angel) where as it is clearly said and Allah negates (this false belief of Christan and Jews) in the Quran alkareem that He was not Angel but of among the Jinns who were created out of Poisonous Fire (Naar Samoom) and similarly it made clear disctiction that Angels were created out of Light (Noor). A person of his caliber must speak the truth only. and STOP TEACHING or MIXING TRUTH with Falsehood (Christianity/Judaism/atheism), We have the absolute Truth - Al-Islam - Verily deen in the sight of Elohim/Allah/Alaha is Islam (Total Submission to His Will) - that my 2cents...
@Gulfraz.
@Gulfraz. 5 жыл бұрын
Just wanted to point out that you totally misunderstood. He didn't say that he believes they are fallen angels. Listen carefully. He said in Islamic Theology it is believed that they are this that and the other.. He was merely introducing the concept of Jinn
@fknthng
@fknthng 5 жыл бұрын
Jinn are not angels...jinn were made of smokeless fire...there are different types of jinn..some are just like humans have families,some are religious other are not...then there are shaytans,Ifrit that are in christianity demons and finally Iblis Who is to some considered to Be lucifer in christianity...this is very misleading and the lack of proper knowledge on this subject is unnerving...hopefully this man is not am imam.
@lighttheoryllc4337
@lighttheoryllc4337 4 жыл бұрын
Assalamualaikum
@izanmohammed3584
@izanmohammed3584 3 жыл бұрын
Walaikum assalam
@lighttheoryllc4337
@lighttheoryllc4337 3 жыл бұрын
@@izanmohammed3584 Al hum dulli ALLAH
@sammas7422
@sammas7422 5 жыл бұрын
Please change the title there is no hadith that is problematic. Without knowing for certain the great scholars accepted these hadiths knowing that jinns can take the form of a dog.. I dont see the issue?
@berkamp9832
@berkamp9832 6 жыл бұрын
The Sahaba and the people of that time lived on planet Earth, just like us!!!! The same way we have different characters and personality in 2018 they did too!!! Some people are not blind followers & this is ok because Islam has nothing to hide, people who want to research and analyse about their religion should be allowed to. The same way people in 2018 have doubts or uncertainty about some Narrations/ Event and Hadiths and so did some peoole 1400 yrs ago. Muslims should be allowed to explore, investigate and analyse if it helps them understand their Deen.
@shugridualle5566
@shugridualle5566 3 жыл бұрын
Trying to discredit scholars. Allah protect us from this scholar.
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