Prof. Edip Yuksel | Rejecting Hadith, Rashad Khalifa & Realizing '19' | MindTrap with Mufti #27

[@yusuffulat6954]

Never expected to see the day when Mufti would seem to be the conservative one on a mindtrap episode, but here we are.

[@ShoebAdnan]

Lol, IKR.

[@memduhturan5980]

Hahahahahha exactöy

[@zebakhawaja3464]

I like that he allows us to learn from the guests, and listen to them. But he comes in when needed to make a conversation.

[@zebakhawaja3464]

Abdul Alim I don’t know who rashad Khalifa is. But here is my prayer to Allah “Forgive me and grant me in the future an authority that will never be matched by anyone after me. You are indeed the Giver and the Bestower of everything. Amen” 38:35

[@OmarAbdulMalikDHEdMPASPACPAPro]

@@c5quared626 That's a very good point! I say that dua when I go the bathroom. However, I wonder, "Okay, who EXACTLY ARE these demons?"😈😞And, why the HECK would they want to watch me go to the bathroom?

[@freedsoul5290]

Salam I love both of you! I was born a Qadiani and was struggling with Ahadith from Bukhari when I ran into Professor and then Mufti and finally I have accepted traditional Islam Alhamdulillah! May Allah SWT bless you both immensely! I’m very grateful to you both!

[@abdo19code]

You're happy to have regressed backward in your religion?

[@freedsoul5290]

@@abdo19code I’m sorry I don’t know the background of your question? Are you an Ahmadi from the Qadiani sect that is criticising me for not believing in MGA?

[@freedsoul5290]

@@abdo19code If you are a Qadiani then my simple question to you would be whether believing In Musaylima as a prophet while being Muslim would make you progress in religion? Why or why not? If you are not a Qadiani then maybe you can clarify what you meant if you would like me to answer.

[@abdo19code]

@@freedsoul5290 I don't even know what a Qadiani is...

[@freedsoul5290]

@@abdo19code so maybe you can clarify what you mean by regressing? Just FYI I’m not a Quranist. I hold views similar to that of Mufti Abu Layth. I just don’t blindly follow Ahadith. I follow a stricter methodology than most common Muslims pertaining to Ahadith. That’s all I can understand your comment to mean if you aren’t a Qadiani. I can happily answer you if you would like to clarify your question again.

[@lovmovement8477]

Superb interview. Thank you for allowing him to explain his view, without turning it into an argument. And still asking strong critical questions. Mashallah . Many blessings brother

[@KORAN-ALONE]

This interview was epic. Abu Layth and Edip Yuksel

[@Imichow]

The biggest problem with Islam in the internet age is what I call a 'Hadeeth Centric Muslim'. Now, what is the definition of a hadeeth-centric Muslim? A Hadeeth Centric Muslim is one who is so enamoured by the beauty or the truth found in the hadeeth collections, which the Prophet himself never approved of, they were documented more than 150 years after the Prophet, he is so fascinated by the beauty, that he is unable to see the deceptive ugliness which has been thrown into the hadeeth collection by the enemies of Truth, and these enemies have existed through Islamic history, right from Adam, to Noah, to Abraham, to Musa, to Esa, and to the last and final Prophet, Muhammad (Peace be upon them all). A hadeeth-centric Muslim is someone, who, when it comes to issues (e.g. Apostasy, Adultery, Blasphemy, Prophet's character, preservation of the Quran, treatment of Homosexuals, treatment of women, treatment of Jews, treatment of Christians, treatment of non-Muslims, forced conversions, basically everything which makes Islam look ugly or crazy), so although there is clear a contradiction between the Quran and the hadeeth, one who goes with hadeeth based interpretation, instead of Quran-centric interpretation is an official 'hadeeth-centric Muslim' for whom the honour of a book like Bukhari and Muslim is far more important, than the honour of his Prophet, or the honour of Islam or even the honour of Allah himself. Also, such a Muslim is also someone who is obsessed with his Scholars their "SCHOLARLY opinions, fatwas, and khauls' even when they clearly go against the ayaat of Allah himself. If you are a Muslim reading this, please choose if you wanna be hadeeth-centric Muslim or a Quran-centric Muslim. Being Quran-centric does not mean you dump all hadeeths but dump only those which contradict the Quran, demonizes the character of the Prophet (Pbuh) or goes against the spirit of Islaam,

[@TheLasthourAA]

Nailed it. Trur Allah's word is Quran Alone... Rashad Khalifa is Correct. One Day Muslim World will March towards Submission (Quran Alone).

[@unclekol1]

Wow very very well said... Couldn't agree more

[@abdo19code]

I agree. Join Ahl al-Quran discord discord.gg/D46ZtJwTag

[@asathelogiclaman637]

oh! absolutely nailed it man! cant agree with you any more than that! you dooin it man ! youu dooin it....much love

[@batman-sr2px]

How do you know it goes against the character of the prophet? This would require applying today's moral. And morals shift every so few years.

[@amirmalik3243]

One of the best guest dear May Allah bless you both Ameen

[@xy6068]

Very enlightening discussion! Thank you!

[@nihad2879]

Prof. Edip Yuksel Best man 100 true

[@basheeramir]

loved this discussion.

[@rosh70]

Mufti Sahaab - Please share your 'gear' details (headphones, etc.). I think you have cool headphones.

[@kyedean9698]

love both of you guys.

[@nycnow811]

I'm not even speaking about his rejection of hadith here but he 100% has a secular/feminist lens that he's not fully aware of or he is idk

[@justCommando]

Does this 19 thing validate the use of the Gregorian calendar?

[@edipyuksel]

Yes. 19 uses both Gregorian and the Hicri, since both are used by humans. If God sent his messengers with the languages made and used by people, then why the same God not send message in their calendars. Gregorian calendar is the most commonly used calendar. Here is a simple and prophetic fact: The number 19 is mentioned only in chapter 74 (The Hidden one) and its meaning and functions were unveiled in year 1974, exactly 19x74 lunar years after the revelation of the Quran by a person whose name (Rashad) mentioned in the Quran exactly 19 times. Besides, the first sentence of the Chapter 74, which consists of two verses, contains exactly 19 letters with numerical values adding up to 1974. Think on it!

[@justCommando]

@@edipyuksel That is pretty incredible I have to say.

[@harishaneef26]

I disagree with translation of daraba that Edip uses. The meaning he chooses does not really fit with the following verse because it speaks of a condition of "fearing separation" . If daraba was meant to be translated as " separate " then what's the purpose of seeking mediation after separation? How can there be fear of separation, after separation ? It makes no sense.

[@subilabi]

Have you also watched video about daraba in Quran centric?

[@abdo19code]

I know Abu Layths credentials and I respect his depth of knowledge in his area of expertise... But Edip is dancing circles around him in this interview. This is like watching a grad student interview a world class master. Edip has spent dramatically more time with the Quran and it's obvious.

[@al-kazaz9032]

Woah dident expect to find you here lol

[@SurgeonSuhailAnwar]

The analogy of “Rub” by Edip with emancipation of slaves is just too far fetched . Mufti is right - why is there no clear cut verse about it in Quran. In this context Edip is stretching Quran to similar irrational limits, that he is accusing Muhaddasin stretching the Hadith !

[@lordff3331]

99.9.% better than Arabs 🤣🤣 he don’t even know his own mother tongue let alone Arabic better than Arabs

[@m.wilkinson9559]

99% which is 19% more than 80%😂😂😂😂 I was glad you made that joke because it showed you realised the Professor's obsession with 19. The Y2K problem had nothing to do with the number 19, but rather that the computers at the time were not programmed to count beyond 1999 and because of this when 2000 hit, it would supposedly cause some irregularity making electronics unable to function. Obviously even the way I've put it doesn't make sense, and it was likely just a sensationalist story that went viral at the time. Because 2000 came and went and the electronics are still here. If there was a programming problem then the solution was simply to fix the program. But computers were very new for most people so they didn't understand anything really and projected their own fears. 😂 covid-19 😂😂 if 19 is God's signature then this is proof that God gave the world a mighty slap

[@user-hh2is9kg9j]

How many Quranis believe the cloud-Um Alkitab? 2:58:32

[@MargaritoDiaz-q3r]

Is Rob Christian your brother

[@ALLHEART_]

1:25:02

[@petergibbs8181]

Reading the comments just makes me think what is happening to the Muslim ummah. Quran only believers have inclined towards that belief because the Quran and sunnah way is just too difficult for them. They were finding it difficult to follow quran and sunnah and then pooped along the ideology of believing in the Quran alone, which is easier to follow as you don’t have to fulfill the most of the faradh. It’s just an easier way to follow and follows how you think god should be worshipped, that’s why it’s followed. Something which doesn’t make sense to Quran only ppl then it has to be thrown away.

[@tevhid9121]

Brother you clearly misunderstood most of the follower of Quran. You sound very childish when you say "oh they don't believe it because it is harder". No. Btw no one thinks it is "harder" but since you say so... :D 1-We say "God Alone" because it is the God's command. 2- So called "hadiths" are not reliable. For ex. One says put your hands up your knees in ruku and one says "no, prophet done the opposite". And this is the one of the lawest examples of disagreements about the Salah. Furthermore in the hadith books you will find so many slanders made to prophet. They show the prophet as if he is a man that has no respect for women, child, animals... no justice at all. They claimed that he told them to beat up your wife or if you really a believer of those hadith books you can "easily" kill any human being. Why? Because that liers, hypocrites found book of Allah hard. They thought it was harder them to be in peace, to love others, to have respect for other beliefs, to have respect and love for your wife and children for example. Allah says When GOD ALONE is mentioned, the hearts of those who do not believe in the Hereafter shrink with aversion. But when others are mentioned beside Him, they become satisfied. 39:45 Say, "I am not different from other messengers. I have no idea what will happen to me or to you. I only follow what is revealed to me. I am no more than a profound warner."46:9

[@musawer5]

So what should we do now? Should we accept rashad as prophet of God??

[@Fahad-gf1wx]

That's absurd

[@hyrunnisa997]

No. I am a Quran only Muslim and I dont think Rashad is a messenger. He is a fraud.

[@0808phoenix]

Me as well. I am also a Qur'an alone believer! I DO NOT ACKNOWLEDGE!!! Rashad Khalifa as a messenger of God! That's totally absurd! The last messenger of the Almighty God Allah-was The Prophet Muhammad(peace be upon him).

[@marlobarksdale2424]

3 hours of pufti lame jokes, no thanks !

[@kas3583]

My eyes are now open. I'm now questioning everything I've learned in my 43 years of life about Sunni Islam and the hadith

[@faithreasons3041]

@Kas: It’s much worse than you think!

[@thetruthseeker4985]

Id reccomend u watch "Sacred City by Dan Gibson" and material by Sam Gerrans

[@mirsalondon8829]

As for me , my eyes were opened as soon as i habe read the Hadith , i remember the 40 hadith Nawawi , than started to look at more , i was literally shocked

[@ALEYA-canal-de-islam]

we never stop learning util death come to us

[@Erumyr]

@@thetruthseeker4985 No Thanks, thats just anti islamic propaganda, The devil found new ways, question everything EVEN stuff that supports your narrative. Especially from adversaries in The religion.

[@ronshah246]

I waited for 118 comments so that my comment was 119th

[@nanifilter1741]

Hahaha lol 😆🤣

[@qurancentric7459]

Salamun Alaykum brother Mufti Abu Layth - This is the first video I watch for you and I must say that I commend your integrity and the way you carry such an open and respectful dialogue. I also love your jolly and heartfelt laughter which always lightens the mood :D I personally do not agree on some points with brother Edip but I do appreciate you allowing space to interview people of the Quran-alone ideology. Thank you for these wonderful videos. Peace and God Bless you

[@salvisher]

Was awaiting brother joseph message on this post . Mashallah

[@pineapple9203]

Can u go on his podcast pleaseeee

[@riyaanrossouw7325]

Salaam Brother 'Quran Centric' Im a follower of your Channel, i would like to know if you could maybe get in touch with Mufti abu Layth. We would love to see your views because we need more Quranic Speakers. And i know you knowledgable.

[@obaidulhaque7687]

Truly appreciated 😍💯

[@maisal9401]

As a quran alone follower i would like to thank you for this video. You were a good host as edip usually has problems in reaching the point in his videos and topics fly one to another :)

[@abdo19code]

Ahl al-Quran discord discord.gg/D46ZtJwTag

[@orthodoxmuslim]

Qur'anist Cult Leader, EDIP YUKSEL'S deception Exposed by Himself! WATCH Till End - إذ Past Tense!!! kzbin.info/www/bejne/fKTahmRvm7Gdi68

[@jenny-DD]

I respect mufti Layt I stayed muslim partly because of him He makes more sense than a 100 Regular Mufti's & scholars I loved how he handled this debate with such grace- and this is because for the first time in a long time he has actually met a respectable intelligent sensible well read knowledgeable man as himself ...

[@o2xb]

Intelligent and sensible for rejecting Hadith ?

[@elvinuo]

You better stay Muslim because of Allah that tells you to read Quran ( by ur own mind ) and obey him. If you stay Muslim because of anyone beside Allah - it is deadend .

[@theLetterDoubleYou]

​@@elvinuoAllah may have put wisdom in MAL's words and touched this person's heart according to His plan. Who are you to draw distinctions based on your interpretation of this person's words? They're not saying MAL is a walking talking miracle, and they may mean something entirely different from how you interpret it. Yet you want to wag a finger and act like you know their heart and hold the absolutely truthful interpretation of their words. Do you really think that's what fearing Allah looks like? Doesn't that strike a bit close to holding your aql as equal to Allah, because you seem to know what's in someone's heart to the point where you chastise them in confidence? At least ask a single question before you start criticizing.

[@stuntxl5783]

​@@elvinuoAre we not Muslim because of Prophet Muhammad (PBUH)?

[@ILoveFriedNoodle]

​​​​​@@theLetterDoubleYou​ People who say things like that (like elvinuo, for example) are probably a new revert who had just finished reading a Quran translation not too long ago, their knowledge is still not adequate and yet they act like they know better and regard everyone as less muslims Source: My own experience 😅

[@info786]

There is no abrogation in Quran. The examples of abrogation you give of slavery have been debunked. Summary: Quran allows no way to gain slaves (Arabic: riqab), promotes freeing of slaves etc thus would eventually lead to abolishing slavery. People sometimes conflate terms. Prisoners of war (Arabic: asara) cannot be kept and must be released by grace or ransom after war ends [47:4].

[@harishaneef26]

The Quran did not specifically prohibit Slavery because prohibiting it would've resulted in a lot of poor people totally abandoned and left without any support whatsoever. Instead, slavery was transformed into a relationship where a person willfully stayed with his or her employer/ supporter and exchanged labor for sustenance. They could never be owned , controlled or prevented from seeking independence. So in short , freeing of slaves actually means giving independence.

[@hassanabdur-rahman1559]

The Quran made many opportunities to encourage Muslims to free slaves. In surah al-Baqara verse 177, freeing slaves is considered a righteous act.

[@tausif3k]

Quran 90:11 He should choose the better path. 90:12 Do you know which is the better path? 90:13 The freeing of slaves. 90:14 Or the feeding on a day of great hardship. 90:15 An orphan of relation. 90:16 Or a poor person in need. 90:17 Then he has become one of those who have believed, and exhort one another to patience, and exhort one another to kindness. 90:18 Those are the people of the right.

[@nycnow811]

​@@tausif3k This explains it PERFECTLY

[@tausif3k]

@@nycnow811 Alhamdulilah it does. But people don't actually read the Quran unfortunately. It is an undiscovered book imo.

[@ayeshazareen3092]

What an eye opener

[@ayeshazareen3092]

Most interesting session I must say ....

[@abdo19code]

Ahl al-Quran discord discord.gg/D46ZtJwTag

[@shohorabahamed3753]

All due respect Mufti. You have the broad shoulders to house all kinds of scholarship patiently. I don't think most people who watched this episode (by the look of comments) understand the gravity and the value of this discussion. This is a clash of titans. Historic. Will be cherished. Assalamu elaika mufthi.

[@mrnomad1737]

Not really. Many understands well the thrust of the argument but one simply need more scholstic discourse rather then relying on opinion. Opinion must be tested and validated. Just because something has become sterile does not mean the source oe application is such. One must consider the impact of secular or modernity in the thought process..is often seen through the prism of Western vision where everything is atomised without considering the overall.

[@wasishah2422]

ALLAH ALONE QURAN ALONE FOCUS

[@salihsalam3119]

29:51 And is it not sufficient for them that We revealed to you the Book which is recited to them? Indeed in that is a mercy and reminder for a people who believe

[@syedalirazashamsi]

True

[@o2xb]

cherry picking verses to suit your agenda.If you can do that, what do you say to the verse 59 of Surah An-Nisa in the Quran and known as Uli al-Amr Verse (آیَه أُولِی ٱلْاَمْر). The verse orders the believers to obey Allah, to obey the prophet and those vested with authority (Uli al-Amr)?

[@o2xb]

@@homer1273 QURANIST GOT DUMPED ON

[@rajasyarif1125]

He's a Quran-knight.

[@rayyana.8538]

lol I see what you did there!

[@pesquisaseanalises4859]

Salam dear Brother Mufti, thank you for your peace heart. I have never seen any muslim such simple and transparent like you, when comes to dialogue between sectarian and quran alone the things are end badly, but you are very different with millions muslims. Allah bless you forever and garante you the jannah. be blessed forever brother Mufti Abu Layth.

[@supergirl9987]

This debate just opened my eyes on hadiths . Keep doing these videos really helpful

[@o2xb]

@@c5quared626 Why do you believe in the Quran and not the Hadith? Weren't they both transmitted orally and through the very same people i.e the sahaba?

[@safwaanuddin8722]

@@c5quared626 are u a white revert?

[@safwaanuddin8722]

@@c5quared626 yeah, it's not relevant but I was wandering if u were a white revert then how u became Quran only?

[@safwaanuddin8722]

@@c5quared626 btw did Edip reject last two verses of Surah taubah

[@stanleystove]

@@safwaanuddin8722 Here's the verse that is right before those "last" two verses: [9:127] Whenever a sura was revealed, some of them would look at each other as if to say: "Does anyone see you?" Then they left. Thus, GOD has diverted their hearts, for they are people who do not comprehend.

[@Azzarrati]

Professor Adib spoke out with so much conviction, loved it. I mean thats what it is, whatever works for people, as Mufti said you cannot just outcast someone just because they hold a view that does not really match yours, and only Allah has the absolute knowledge. I knew a lady who use to say I dont really like reading about hadiths or learning new hadiths because she said more she learns more she has to comply by them 😅 Probably not something I would do, but at the end she is a good at heart person. So ya.

[@o2xb]

Good according to who?

[@nycnow811]

I was actually recently reflecting on that which ironically reminds me of a hadith when a man came to the Prophet s.a.w and said (I'm paraphrasing) if I ONLY do such and such am I good, will I enter jannah. Long story short that man didn't know much

[@atilla4352]

it's really interesting, I don't know why people so hateful and scared. Let the man talk.

[@qwite9309]

Yeah the background of this man is very very interesting and history. Although I think layth's community is much sweet and relaxed than others it seems other didnt like him at all

[@inaaranur1611]

@@qwite9309 Yes Edip and mufti have their haters but which of the prophets did not have haters These men are doing what is asked of them in Quran.... apply reason Always apply reason So they are hated and ridiculed by those who do not

[@b_g2017]

Brother, I am a Quranist Muslim and that is why I watched this video. I know that you are not but bc of how you are so respectful and I loved the way you handled this subject, you have won me over as a patron. I am subscribing to your channel. You seem very much down to earth and for an educated man, that is a great characteristic. Basically, I like you so I’m gonna check out your stuff. Thank you

[@edipyuksel]

❤

[@rajasyarif1125]

Edip is throwing bricks at Mufti but the latter just keeps sitting there patiently as a gentle host. Wisdom! Edip had lot of Heterodox yet strong arguments.

[@valsaiti9154]

The problem people have with Edip is taht he's very straightforward. People think he's arrogant but in real he's very happy & enthousiastic to spread the information his mind has perceived. Bless him and every one of you and may we meet in paradise. InshaAllah

[@HA-vy9ow]

Abu Layth was an excellent host and interviewer. The whole show was flowing and made for easy listening. Well done mate keep up the good work.

[@erichusayn]

As a believer in only the Quran myself, I very much enjoyed this video. Tnanks.

[@student7259]

Do you believe the Romans lost against the Muslims?

[@al-muwaffaq341]

علم أل طالب yes it a historical fact

[@erichusayn]

@@student7259 Indeed I do.

[@student7259]

Eric Husayn How do you know that?

[@erichusayn]

@@student7259 historical fact

[@god_said_man_said7912]

A point about accepting some hadith. If we are to accept them and they fall in line with the Quran with the Quran being the criteria then ultimately why do we need hadith.

[@god_said_man_said7912]

@Khalid Ibn Alwaleed yes I agree the history lessons in the Quran is all we need in order not to repeat the mistakes of the previous generations.

[@o2xb]

Because the Prophet pbuh explained the Quran in further detail did he not, along with being the best example of a practicing Muslim for all muslims to aspire to?

[@stanleystove]

No, that would be like comparing man made text to the Quran. You still uphold the Quran only as a book of religious law. But Saying you read what goes with it is like saying you read footnotes of some translation of it, it's man made and unrelated

[@kliffdragonsbane7136]

Check out Sam Gerrans and his view on the quran.

[@subilabi]

The only thing that I am not interested about sam gerran is flat earth

[@Diins_a]

Mashallah Mufti. Good to get other perspectives rather than shutting them down. Peace from a Qurani in Australia

[@adrakazeggway1846]

Lets not call ourselves Quranist though. We should call ourselves Muslim brother. Anyways, i wish you the best!

[@Diins_a]

@@adrakazeggway1846 good point brother. Muslim or mu'min. I dont remember in the quran saying a particular name to give ourselves in regards to our deen/iman. But i know many of the prophets in the quran saying they are ones who believe. If we are speaking english, i guess i am one who believes. Peace

[@hassanabdur-rahman1559]

As-salamu alaykum brothers. I am also a Muslim who follows the Quran alone.

[@o2xb]

@@Diins_a so you reject all Hadiths?

[@Diins_a]

@@o2xb I reject the 6 sunni and 4 shia hadiths as religious doctrine from Allah. Do i disagree with whats in there? Not everything as there are beautiful moral guides in them just like the Torah and Bible but just like the Torah and Bible, i see them as edited/man manipulated doctrine. The only sunnah mentioned in 2 separate ayats in the Quran is the sunnah of Allah. Not the sunnah of any other man. Peace.

[@justCommando]

Ah, very interesting at 46:35, the Qur'an says 'we don't burden a soul beyond its scope', and how it contradicts the story of 50 prayers a day.

[@ilias4609]

Wait so you are actually saying that praying burdens the soul😂😂😂😂😂

[@marekp8636]

I'm here because David Wood and Anthony Rogers did material about you :)

[@syedalirazashamsi]

No doubt the Quran is not lame to understand from other books so called hadees . I agree with Adip

[@aalianahmed92]

i aslo saw your comment on mohammad sheiks channel

[@syedalirazashamsi]

@@aalianahmed92 yes i follow muhammad shiekh in some aspects and also mufti abu lyth as student to seek knowledge . Major of my beliefs is from Quran 93%

[@aalianahmed92]

@@syedalirazashamsi do you have a fb id ?

[@syedalirazashamsi]

@@aalianahmed92 i dont use Facebook . What do you want to know you can tell me no issues dear .

[@aalianahmed92]

@@syedalirazashamsi i want to be friends with you

[@omarmy3495]

A year later and still enjoying the rapport between two foremost erudite scholars. Thanks Mufti Abu Layth for a real treat.

[@bobbyjones8091]

"i Unserstand arabic better than 99,9% of the arabs but i cant speak it" Edip Yüksel Al kathab

[@muraddadasov8595]

So what is wrong with that?

[@bobbyjones8091]

@@muraddadasov8595 because it makes no sense.

[@muraddadasov8595]

@@bobbyjones8091 you have little knowledge about language learning that's why. reading, listening, speaking and writing these four areas are different

[@bobbyjones8091]

@@muraddadasov8595 but claiming that you undertsand a language better then 99% of all natives speakers(including scholars, tachers of arabic) but then say you cant speak is beyond ridiculous. hes clearly a liar and his arabic is pretty bad.

[@muraddadasov8595]

@@bobbyjones8091 you lack intelligence on language learning.

[@usmant100]

Really enjoyed this Mufti, engaging and insightful as always. Many Thanks to you and Br. Edip! Would love for you to give your thoughts on the discussion on your Monday nightsl

[@TheQuranExplainsItself]

Mufti pls have an interview with a standard Quran only believer because people constantly assume that you’re a 19er and a Rashad follower if you just believe in the Quran.

[@TheQuranExplainsItself]

The skeptic and Sunnis agree on everything right 😂🤦🏿‍♂️ A standard Quran only believer is one who accepts the Quran as it is without trying to change the language into “ sharci definitions “ whatever the hell that means and does not impose external narratives on the Quran. Just submit to the message of the Quran as it is.

[@ricbla3499]

@@Anonymous-sq6eo in sunnism there are many different opinions on many matters, why this hypocricy?

[@lukek1132]

Wow how are you getting such esteemed guests please try and get Sam Gerrans and and some one called quran centric (check him on KZbin) on your show

[@Diins_a]

These two guests would be amazing !!

[@TheBraveheart95]

@ Luke K Quran centric is Joseph Yasseen. Indeed, that would be a great idea for them to be invited

[@subilabi]

And shaik ahmed shuby

[@fazliqadir187]

Great discussion.. your guest has some great points

[@mouloudou1]

..specially his belief that rashad khalifa is a messenger of God and that verses have been added to the Qur'an...great points indeed.

[@zebakhawaja3464]

Another amazing Mindtrap Session with Muft JI! So impressed! Prof Edip Yuksel is extremely knowledgeable and correct at translating the verses and meaning of the Quran 100%. Though he did over-exaggerate the importance of Saqqar- 19 as it is mentioned in the Quran, as a disease, The Covid-19.

[@zebakhawaja3464]

FRED hey grandpa what’s this video about?

[@TheQuranExplainsItself]

Zeba Khawaja bunch of islamophobes

[@hassanabdaladl]

Big up Zeba ♥ 💪

[@zebakhawaja3464]

Hassan Sabbah 😆🙏

[@zebakhawaja3464]

FRED Listen people who have more knowledge are always attacked by those who are ignorant and know less, they won't believe and will always be confused. Unless they accept more truth , knowledge and openly think about it. Live life first and then try to understand what lifestyle is best, don't just follow a religion or be against another religion ignorantly and dogmaticallly, we humans who from loving families have everything good in common even if we are from different country's, cultures, and religions. Be good, be happy and dont' worry about those who don't want to listen, except those who want to learn about being compassionate and merciful, peaceful, truth of God the Greatest, laws of the universal truth in the Quran and lifestyle/religion of Islam. Bad corrupt evil people will go to Hell. Mufti is a loving family man and May Allah save him and protect him always Amen. With all given proof will you still not believe? Even Jesus was attacked and hurt though he was pure, good loving man just like any other prophet who was only making people righteous.

[@disndat6271]

I honestly watched this again purely to look at Mufti Abu Layths humility in discussion with someone he disagrees with. It’s almost unbelievable. Mufti. I think you are a legend. Of course I also think Edip is a legend as well. Though his words may sound harsh to the dogmatic, he is also absolutely humble. That maybe because Mufti approached this that way. This is to me, “UNBELIEVABLE”. Shukran Jazilan.

[@ShoebAdnan]

Interesting Discussion. Prof. Edip Yuksel's arguments against hadiths are really strong.

[@trueicecoldfire]

More like strong emotions

[@qwite9309]

@@trueicecoldfire Would you care to explain why you think his arguments aren't strong

[@trueicecoldfire]

Qwite do you want me to do as the guy said : a short answer or a long one, no no no, I’m kidding 😂, well , Islam was conveyed to Muhammed pbuh, and the people who surrounded him received the message, they mastered the message ( they were there to receive it) and after receiving the message , them they served it to us!!!!, like when a chef serves a dish to you in a restaurant, islam was a dish you did not know what it was before the chef of the restaurant served it to you, now, wile you are eating the dish, you can ask about the recipe, you can argue that it could have been made better, prepared and distributed, you want to make it at home , you can, but, there is one thing!!!, the one thing you cannot do, in any way possible, that is my friend, you cannot claim the dish as your invention, unless, you are granted permission by the inventor of the dish, like KFC making you a general manager, or, you can, make a claim that the dish belongs to you and see what the court decides., you see how this relates, or it’s simply so because as any other argument, it’s just an argument, now, all arguments are weighed on a scale, a just scale is the one which will weigh the arguments without weighing to benefit the one who is making the argument, the scale has to be just, in his case , the scale is not weighing justly!, why!, , what I’m trying to say is that his argument is weighd on his private scale, his scale is constructed by his “messenger” of God, now , common sense dictates that, a messenger comes with a religious text, yet in his case the messenger lacked a message , he did not produce a message /religious text, so he found it as hi’s predecessors before him much easier to adopt what was already available, no to be fair, he did find the number 19 in the Quran, but that does not make you a prophet!!, imagine it was you who found out about the number 19, do you then have the right to proclaim yourself a prophet!, ( the rest that he speaks of were already there available), therefore the scale he is weighing with is like an intruders tool, that simply, makes his argument invalid, not in totality, only the main one, that his mentor was a prophet sent by Allah SWT, and that the sunnah of muhammed pbuh is idol worship!, that is the epitemy of delusion, yet thinking on this matter in entirety is a headache, but that said, it means that if his argument is valid, then every other argument made by other self proclaimed prophets of Islam during it’s history weigh equaly the same, that does not make sense, because then it all becomes a gibberish mesh of arguments and if weighed the same then none can come to the top, Unless, you do what is right and put the most reasonable one to the top first, and that is what you should do, anyway, plus , the reason why his arguments are weak is because, he or his prophet can not claim a religion which originally was revealed to someone else, there is something which we can all appreciate which is the right of ownership, if you can’t usurp apple company by making claims that it’s owners are not doing a good job, what makes you think you can usurp the position of a spokesman let alone a prophet of a religion!, let him force his was with apple and see what happens, yes, let him try , apple inc or any other company, they cam mess with God’s religion because the corporate laws do not cover it, but , what it comes down to is a mere choice of taste, if you are prone to accepting whatever it’s fed to you then , you are a “perfect consumer”, final thought: is this why they are so concentrated on producing another translated version of the Quran!! Now, this is my long answer😂

[@qwite9309]

@@trueicecoldfire that analogy is way too simple for an religon and I cant understand what you're saying

[@trueicecoldfire]

Qwite , you cant understand simple things like: you understand complicated stuff better, right?

[@hamedkadkhodaie7715]

It's notable that Edip Yuksel praises Abu Hanifa 🤔

[@harishaneef26]

This is a fantastic discussion. Very respectful and informative discussion 👏.

[@vaseem724]

Assalamu'alaikum bro... Please invite zakir naiak for debt.. I will be great to hear him on this type of questions... As he answers everyone in his gatherings...

[@shaikmudassir6455]

He'd never come. Even I can defeat him in a debate. It's easy. All he has is good memory, nothing else.

[@stanleystove]

He would just scream at him

[@AwaisAli-sk9yy]

I was in bits when the man calls Imam Shafi’i an enemy of the Qurān (nauzibillah) and mufti cracks up! 🤣🤣🤣

[@maturidiwesley4107]

And rightfully so, how can you take such an individual serious. 5G covid 19 conspiracy theories are even more plausible then this whole conspiracy of this guy.

[@danialshah2957]

That was hilarious. I never imagined anyone would do takfir on imam shafi 🤣🤣

[@TheQuranExplainsItself]

Why can’t shafi’i be an enemy of the Quran? Why do you lot idolise men so much?

[@TheQuranExplainsItself]

Abdul Alim how did you determine that? Why are you lot so sensationali 😂

[@AwaisAli-sk9yy]

Maverick X well my friend we’re only claiming them to be great scholars, yes they may have made errors etc because they’re men after all and not Prophets. However these legends who explained the Qurān and Sunnah to laymen because of their in-depth knowledge into the sciences of the Qurān, Sunnah, Hadith, Arabic language etc were still humble and privileged enough to remain as ‘Servants of Allāh’, they didn’t all of sudden become ‘Messengers of Allāh’ just because they discovered some bizarre numerical code in the Qurān 1400 year later! Food for thought 😉

[@silvercloud1276]

Mufti Saap, your channel just became my favourite !! Love from Egypt !

[@jumatron2060]

Shia and Sunnah can't agree on anything but the Quran and the Shahadataan.

[@justchillin3492]

@Zaid they do

[@jamestinsley9460]

Yes very good show mufti is the conservative one

[@bosbanon3452]

The themes are heavy no wonder many people don't understand . I hope Allah will protect the mufti , maybe some one who misunderstood him can do harm things to him

[@subilabi]

Hati2 lah dengan hadith, mas

[@HulaguKhan2020]

Also Shaafi & Hanbal were racist too. Shaafi claimed that Arab Muslims are superior to Ajam Muslims, & NonArab Men can’t marry Arab Women but Arab Men can marry Ajam Women. Glad Abbassids beat the Pan-Arab Racist Ummayyads. Mongols beat the Abbassids. Allah said I will send one nation to destroy another nation hence Allah let Mongols destroy Abbassids.

[@shoaibbhat279]

Can you please provide me with references of what you have quoted ? Or it is merely hearsay that you're passing on ?

[@ozanbayrak562]

Than another enemy grew on that void. Zoroastrian-mixed-shia persian nationalists. The Void Theory 🤷🏻

[@mirsalondon8829]

I started questioning everything , the 5 pillars of islam , No shahada in the Quran , it say believe . Salah isn't a prayer , but to resume it it's to get connected or to reach up to , ( by Quran ) ie Allah make SALAH (Not prayer) upon the prophet ...and that's not exclusif to the prophet , he make salah upon us too , what they say is a blessing ...what's that blessing ? It's obviously the revelation . Perform Salah , it means perform what's in the Quran . Zakah (Money ) ...in Quran it's called Nafaqa or Sadaqah , they twisted the zakah ( self elevating or purification of soul ) into few coins you need to pay . Fasting ... Allah clearly said to marriem to eat and drink when he asked her to fast . I didn't get into hajj , but i just read in the comment some suggestions to watch a video , i forgot the title but i can go back to history and i can find it . I even questioned the Adhan (the call to prayer) Allah Akbar is not in Quran , Allah never called him self this , but you find Al Kabeer Al Mout3al , Al 3aliyou Al kabeer . Now my question is , how to convince family members about all these , as soon as i have tried , i got really aggressive reaction , so i decided to do it in the right time coz i don't want to lose my closest family . Anyway i just find out about this gentlemen , i don't know what his takes on all practices , but all what he said it's on the dot , you cannot argue any point , coz truth always prevails .

[@shahzarkhan1966]

Like they invented the 5 prayers read bukari 349 and 350 the biggest joke you will hear 😅😅 that says it all about hadith

[@lukek1132]

Has this made you question on still following hadiths

[@maturidiwesley4107]

Hell no.

[@ShoebAdnan]

Hell No 2

[@qwite9309]

I hope it did or at the very least brought a new perspective and more information, but it seems otherwise since a lot of sunnis here

[@musam1339]

Hell no 3

[@TheQuranExplainsItself]

The guys saying hell no tell us 1 thing from the Hadiiths you can’t do without 🤣🤣

[@tayyabkhan2228]

i would have appreciated if sheikh ul islam had challenged prof edip more in his line of questioning!

[@wisdomeacrosstheages]

Mufti has been blessed with the patience of a mango tree. He just sits there while the wind sways him from side to side, and clings to his fruits for the benefit of humanity. Come Monday, he will drop the sweet stuff and explain away all the things he wanted to say but didn't out of politeness. I don't know how he holds back 👏👏👏

[@aliditta7768]

I AGREE WITH YOU! I AM SHOCKED THE AMOUNT OF PATIENCE MUFTI ABU LAYTH HAS. HOW THE HELL DID HE DO THAT? I LOVE MUFTI ABU LAYTH AND I HAVE LEARNT SO MUCH HERE.

[@ImranKhan-rt2gi]

@activsterisee 87 beautifully said I agree 100%

[@rajasyarif1125]

@@aliditta7768 Mufti is a great guy.

[@aliditta7768]

@@c5quared626 WAIT UNTIL MONDAY NIGHT! I AM TELLING YOU MUFTI ABU LAYTH OUT OF RESPECT FOR HIS GUEST DID NOT REPLY BACK. MUFTI ABU LAYTH IS A SUNNI MUSLIM HIMSELF. HE FOLLOWS THE SCHOOL OF MADINAH, THE SCHOOL OF IMAM MALIK. MUFTI ABU LAYTH BELIEVES IN QURAN AND SUNNAH 100%. HE FOLLOWS IMAM MALIK. WE HAVE TO ACCEPT AND REJECT SAHIH HADITH. MUFTI ABU LAYTH BELIEVES THE QURAN WE HAVE TODAY IS 100% THE QURAN.

[@aliditta7768]

@@c5quared626 WAIT UNTIL MONDAY NIGHT WITH MUFTI ABU LAYTH! MUFTI ABU LAYTH IS A HARD CORE FOLLOW OF IMAM MALIK AND HIS FAMOUS MUWATTA HADITH BOOK. THE LOVE MUFTI ABU LAYTH HAS FOR IMAM MALIK AND THE SCHOOL OF MADINAH. YOU WOULD BE SHOCKED. MAYBE YOUR NEW. PLEASE WATCH HIS MONDAY NIGHT!

[@syedalirazashamsi]

Mufti this is prohibited in pakistan come on

[@KemalYoldash]

Grandious intellectual Very very handsome host Superb interview Thank for these 3 hours

[@leslieterebessy7559]

Excellent discussion ...

[@mrnomad1737]

Even the secular law uses jurisprudance and concept of precedance. He is conflating many things using a reductive argument to discredit the tradition. Many do not see hadith as devine but these are classed as source material. Scholar uses Quran as yardstick to guage hadith. This is actuslised in Hanafi and Malaki school.

[@salmanhyder1655]

EDIP ❤️

[@SomeofThisSomeofThat]

Ive had conversations with strict hadith rejectors and they’re all the same….a gross inability to contextualize.

[@obaidulhaque7687]

You have "poisoned " your soul brother ; with THAT tomb of BOOK; ✌️👌

[@gazzoul1]

Selam alleykum what talk! Professor Edip Yüksel, was the reason why I only follow the quran, and I am a big fan of you Mufti abu layt, Of course there are certainly hadiths that could be true, but they come from the same source, so it is advisable not to take any hadiths, according to sunnah the prophet has 149 characters that I discovered on my own, the number of unreported cases is almost in the 1000s participated there. I do not believe in the 19 theory that the Christian era that is involved is wrong and is scientifically known. greetings from Germany !

[@LAILA-2816]

Those who point a finger of any kind to the quranist are actually pointing a finger at god and his creation...one pointing at god that hos book doesn't have the power to guide on its own....two pointing at gods creation MAN and in the manner god has created him as ahsan e taqweem being given faculties by god to understand his book.

[@rajasyarif1125]

He's just interviewing a Quranite!!!!

[@qwite9309]

yes he is and?

[@rajasyarif1125]

@@qwite9309 Awesome!

[@qwite9309]

Raja Syarif I know right

[@muraddadasov8595]

muhammad was a quranite so what is your point?

[@yasinozkan]

Hes not even a Quranist lol he reject the last 2 verses of Surah Tawbah and claims its fabricated.

[@drdreamz5731]

Prof Edip is in a class of his own. Well done to him for writing on the mathematical signs and the powerful message the Quran has through numbers. Wow! enjoyed the number 19 argument.

[@yusufalef92]

Him and rashad khalifa removed the last two verses of surah 9 in their translations to match theory 19 etc

[@seesaw7320]

@@yusufalef92 credit where credit is due. Not everyone accepts what he say, we have our different opinions, but those things doesn't negate his work on the Quran

[@yusufalef92]

@@seesaw7320 yes I agree I was only talking about his theory of 19

[@o2xb]

@@seesaw7320 it does negate his work if he has the audacity to remove verses from the Quran.Who does he think he is, that after 1400 years he can come along and say what is and isn't the Quran`?

[@harishaneef26]

I feel the correct meaning can be understood if we look at other verses in the Quran. First , the word daraba is used in response to nushooz and this i believe is in context of adultery or the wife being unfaithful. There is another verse which says that women are to be forced to remain in their homes if they indulge in fahsha. So clearly the daraba is referring to exerting pressure or restraining a partner if she insists on her illicit behavior.

[@MASSAM9669]

That would completely contradict the apparent meaning of the verse So much for a clear guidence if it's so hard to understand

[@harishaneef26]

@@MASSAM9669 how does it contradict ?

[@obaidulhaque7687]

Wow .... what's going on here.. eye opening discussion .

[@Moon-gc2cv]

Very interesting debate. Props to Mufti Sb for having such a topic discussed which most people will never discuss.

[@shoaibbhat279]

There is a part of discussion where Mufti literally turns into hadith defender 😂😂😂😂😂😂 Quite ironical!

[@rashidrayhanabdurrahman5299]

Salam Mufti, thank you for an amazing and engaging mind trap session. I had mistyped a word in the verse during the live stream chat. But my question was as follows. Doesn't the verse و تلك نعمة تمنها علي ان عبدت بني إسرائيل in surat shu'ara, verse 22, categorically imply that slavery should not be practiced, and Allah is against it? For it would be sort of hypocritical of God to be against it when it is against a believing people (in this case the children of Israel), but allow it when it is against people of other beliefs or no beliefs.

[@aleefmohammed244]

What we call “slaves” are actually house helpers or maids in today’s societies , like how kings was a term used for civilization living thousands of years ago, but today we call them presidents and Politicians. Slavery is a vague term. If someone work for you but you did not pay them , then that is slavery , even though you did not physically abuse them.

[@rashidrayhanabdurrahman5299]

@@aleefmohammed244 I am aware of that, Aleef, and that is close to my understanding as well.

[@rashidrayhanabdurrahman5299]

@@aleefmohammed244 but thank you for the observation

[@michaelmanu3468]

Been thinking about this 19 theory for last 20 years nice to have a discussion around the subject.

[@CapoKhan]

54:00. I believe that the alim lam mim is Allah challenging the Quraesh by showing them that this is their own language. Their arabic. But yet they cant produce a Quran like the Quran If u get what i mean.

[@noumanqureshi8489]

Absolutely beautiful 😥😥😥

[@salahuddinmerrill7520]

I might add that if the Quran is so easy to understand and apply, such that ordinary people can derive rulings from it, why does Mr. Yuksel’s translation include an UTTERLY MASSIVE number of footnotes? I am not saying that he is always right or wrong in his interpretations, and he brings our many good points about social and religious problems in modern Islamic societies; but all this commentary on the Quran does get in the way of his Quran Only methodology… Are we not just trading Hadiths of Muhammad (sas) for Hadiths of Edip Yuksel? Another issue is his distancing himself on key issues from his mentor Rashad Khalifa, including the important claim still held by the Masjid Tucson group that Mr. Khalifa’s translation (including footnotes and appendices) is ‘authoritative’ and hence free from error. You can witness this at the beginning of the interview. Problem is that without Dr. Khalifa, Edip Yuksel might still be the Sunni radical that he once was! In watching his many videos and reading several of his books, it seems that he still believes that Rashad Khalifa was a Messenger sent by GOD to reform Islam, and bring to light this 19 Miracle. But now he is saying-albeit a bit sheepishly in this interview-that Mr. Khalifa was wrong on certain issues, which means his Quranic translation (or rather, his Quran in English) is not to be trusted. Well how does a Messenger who was supposedly in direct contact with GOD make mistakes? One of the important issues, as I have mentioned, is the prayer. Mr. Khalifa interprets the ‘Milliat’ of Prophet Ibrahim (Abraham) mentioned in the Quran as the intact religion of Islam as we know of, complete with specific Rakats of Arabic prayer and as well as rules for Hajj, as if this was all being practiced before the time of Muhammad by the people of Mecca. This is what Hazrat Isa’s (Jesus Christ’s) disciples would have practiced as well. Now any biblical scholar or educated Jew would just laugh at this theory, and Edip has understandably moved himself away from it, seeing only three daily prayers in the Quran, rather than five, and I suppose he has gotten rid of other details of the Salaat as well, which the Quran does not mention (the Quran does not even specific reciting Al-Fatiha, for example…). But for starters, without a specific procedure, how do these Quranists pray in congregation behind an Imam? Wouldn’t they just bump into one another? And you would infer that if three was the original number of prayers, then at least SOME groups SOMEWHERE would have preserved that, or at least there would be a historical record of a time when some Sunni authorities after the time of Bukhari has to root out these Quranists and bring them in line with the new dogma. But where is the historical evidence of such a period of enforced conformity to a new norm? (The Shia’s believe in joining together certain prayers out of convenience into three, as Sunnis do during travel. But they still BELIEVE in five prayers.) In sum, Mr. Edip’s current theories are the eventual outcome of the Quran Only way of thinking; but his biggest elephant in the room is that he still accepts Dr. Khalifa as a messenger, and again, how does a messenger of ALLAH get things so bloody wrong? Why did Mr. Yuksel pray 5 times a day with the Masjid Tucson group before Rashad’s death, and then change his mind afterward? Is he claiming revelation himself? My instinct as a Muslim after years of investigation and reflection is that you must take your Islam from the esteemed Auliya throughout the ages, such as Hazrat Abdul-Qadir Jilani, and Ibn Arabi, who have reached such levels of purity and devotion, that their relationship to Muhammad, his family, and companions (Peace be upon them all) is a living and direct one. Muhammad (sas) is not dead. Salaam, brothers and sisters in Islam.

[@shoaibbhat279]

Wow man ! Those are some really good observations!

[@MinMin-ng7rr]

The difference between Iblees and Us, Adam, is Muhammad! Without Muhammad ur Rasul Allah, both Iblees and our Kalima would be the same! La illaha ilallah! ( Why we are in Existence, embracing the office of Prophecy and denoucing the office of Iblis and the world of magic) .

[@subilabi]

Allah forbids us to make distinction among prophets (2:136)

[@disndat6271]

Mufti Abu Layth. I wonder if I have the honour of calling you "my brother'. You have won my utmost respect.

[@akashchauthmal8559]

1:02:17 see Mufti'$ reaction 😆

[@DistortedEmpath]

Quran 19 involves number manipulation

[@mewying5184]

1:10:00 important

[@TheA38O]

Give me that ring edip. Please. Its adam