Prof. John Mearsheimer on Trump, Ukraine, Nuclear War, Israel-Gaza, and the Dangers of Multipolarity

[@JasminKosubekOriginal]

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[@hanshuber4723]

Danke Jasmin für diesen Gast. Dein bestes Gespräch

[@MrStick-r00t]

Jasmin in Höchstform! Danke ❤

[@JasminKosubekOriginal]

I noticed while checking the interview that I never circled back to the question: Why are German leaders subservient to the US? So I went back and asked John and here is his answer: "Germany is subservient to the United States mainly because it fears that Washington will abandon Europe for East Asia. Given the US concern with the China threat, German leaders worry that America will “pivot to Asia,” which effectively means it will pivot away from Europe. This matters greatly to German foreign policy elites because they understand that the American military presence in Europe serves as a pacifier-it is principally responsible for peace in Europe. Thus, German leaders go to great lengths not to alienate the United Stares for fear that it would then leave Europe, which would mean Germany is responsible for its own security, a thought that scares most Germans half-to-death. To prevent that outcome, contemporary Germany invariably backs US policy, which is not always in Germany’s national interest. This was certainly the case in April 2008 when Angela Merkel supported the Bush administration’s foolish decision to bring Ukraine into NATO, even though she understood it would lead to enormous trouble with Russia."

[@christopherhennings6615]

​@@JasminKosubekOriginal Good point. Perhaps you should have asked John if he saw any (past) prospect of Russia joining NATO. Anyway, I will try the AI.

[@martinr2040]

@@JasminKosubekOriginal that is so interesting! thank you for that question.

[@ahmadmansurialkindii]

This is like a conversation between a Knowledgable Grandfather with his clueless grandchildren

[@robinali6903]

She gave us a great interview with John. Yes, she was naive on issues but that is totally fine. She isn't the expert, which is why she allowed John to facilitate the conversation. Name calling her does a great disservice.

[@fs4456]

​@robinali6903 she deserves worse than what he called her!!! He has been very kind!!!

[@abdoultoure2474]

@@robinali6903No she did not have a “Great” interview. She carefully tried to justify ethnic cleansing by claiming agnosticism and suggesting that people should just accept having their land stolen from them because it happened a long time ago. Through her you hear the condescendance of Germans that led them to murder millions upon millions of people. Go watch the interview he did with lex Friedman who is an actual intellectual. You don’t claim to be clueless about something and proceed to say the most nonsensical shit ever. I have been a student of John for over 15 years and never have I seen him so uncomfortable and dumbfounded in an interview (when addressing the Palestinian questions). She makes point that can be argued and debunked by a 16 year old with 1 year of AP history. The lesson here is simple, when you do know shit, you shut the fuck up and listen!

[@abdoultoure2474]

@@robinali6903you are lucky KZbin deleted my comment!

[@sartoudjibril6698]

A grandchild has the wit to ask the right questions, driven by genuine curiosity. This chick is beyond any redemption.

[@RavusNox-z5i]

"I want to keep my agnostic view on the Israel-Palestine conflict" She keeps repeating that but to me that's just a cop out for basically doing the Ostrich's head in the sand policy. Which is the German policy in general. Denial. They're so weighed down by history that they will never criticise Israel.

[@ivan00001983]

There is another take on German stance which IMO is more convincing - German leadership knows perfectly well what is going on, but they are OK with it, because genocide that Germany committed on Jews will be relativized by Israeli genocide on Palestinians, in the eyes of German elite at least. The gravity of German "sin" will be made "easier" to carry when Israel becomes genocidal state who is mass murdering women and children.

[@GeemBee-yz8no]

Still does not justify a whole country to dispose of its moral compass.

[@AA-ik1ek]

Where is the innate feeling of empathy and humanity !!!

[@A.B.5KRVw]

Nope, its not denial, but the only true realistic view on this conflict. No one, besides Israelis and Palestinians, can truly end this conflict. Everyone who try so pick a side will automatically make an enemy on the other side. Tell me, what will happen when Palestinians win? Right, exactly the same as when Israelis win, a disaster. The current war was not started because outside powers decided to "stick their head in the sand", but because someone particular (USA) decided to pick a side.

[@UpShir67]

She keeps saying I understand but get over it Palestinians. No one can normalize genocide, ethnic cleansing and apartheid like a German.

[@alex_montoya]

Does agnostic mean ignorant in German?

[@rabiabudem]

Yes.

[@Onehuman123]

Yes. Smth like Clueless and cold hearted at the same time. Very complex intelligent word that gives you the possibility to bail out 😊

[@leadon1184]

It means something like: I am desperate to keep my job

[@Onehuman123]

@ means smth like “ never again” was only for one people.

[@Grammarlings-cf8yw]

Ignorance in her profession is culpability

[@mostafaahmed8975]

I like how she understood and commented on every topic except Israel. When it comes to Israel, they all suddenly “don’t know much about the subject”. Cowardice

[@Z5100-k7t]

You mean it becomes complicated

[@HasrinHarith]

What a bimbos anchor

[@Grammarlings-cf8yw]

@@Z5100-k7t the c-word you're looking for is complicit

[@johngeiger3770]

The west is doom. No one will spell out the obvious because they have been guilt-tripped to asinine level of fear and self-loathing.

[@User-r5g5f]

Cultural Marxists were given free reign to mutilate the culture of German during the post-war occupation. These people were Jewish Supremacists who hated Germans/Europeans before the war and hated them even more after the war. That amount of mental manipulation leads to results like this. I will also add that Sunni Muslims tend to Mum up when non-Muslims bring up Sunni Muslim cooperation with 🇮🇱 to commit atrocities against non-Muslims and non-Sunni Muslims. Israelis and Sunni Muslims seem to have that same amnesia when it comes to doing evil to people from outside groups. 👀

[@kvltvr6967]

Jasmin: I'm agnostic because there's so much I don't understand. Also Jasmin: I understand it completely.

[@silviamileva6292]

This is a very complexed topic. And will be never resolved. What haooened with Armenian genocide. Any reparation or land return to the rightfull owners. Bulgarians left their territory and all possessions after the territory was anexed. My great parents were refugees from those territory and had to settle never been compensated

[@GryPoulsen]

@@silviamileva6292it’s not complicated. Israel is in violation of international law, in regards to its occupation and its conduct in “war.”

[@marybarton2011]

@@silviamileva6292 It's not complicated. You have grabbed on to the crutches of "complicated" like every coward and complicit colonizer everywhere. Those who know the history are not confused.

[@marybarton2011]

Jasmin is the typical German white woman going on overdrive to show guilt pride. She is happy the German Jews who were pushed out and moved to Pales. don't have refugee status to come back. She is a clear example of why the Holocaust happened.

[@sandy-dev]

@@silviamileva6292stop being so “agnostic”

[@mikely7354]

She talks so much about a topic she said she's not sure of(Israel). If it's me I'd just shut up and listen. I do appreciate at the end she's done a 180 turn. Good job John for staying cool through all this. You're are a true teacher.

[@zubimaha]

Exactly 💯

[@betro4292]

Nah man, it's not about what she don't know, everyone knows that ethn1c cleans1ng is wrong, but she think that it's OK and Palestinians should be expecting their fate, not just that but she doesn't want the oppressors who been stealing others land, G siding them for over a century to be held accountable, on the contrary she wants them to keep the land they stole, be forgiven for their cr1mes in the name of "unfair peace" (what ever tf that means) just bc they're Jews! "I can't imagine Jews dont have a country", she said.

[@pappaflammyboi5799]

Nope.

[@DanVicary]

Was she playing the part? Was it the two staging a clear statement to disarm the Zionist argument? Showing the unreasonable reality of Genocide Settlement Annexation.

[@lotusjp]

What is your comment about Israel all about? Why don't you enlighten us ⁉️⁉️⁉️

[@passionaterebellion]

whew she’s COLD HEARTED when it comes to the Palestinians undergoing ethnic cleansing, horrifying as a German

[@AmdeMoba]

'cold hearted' is an understatement What will @jasminkosubekoriginal do if ZIONISTS occupied Baden-Württemberg?

[@SuperKripke]

She suffers so much as she talks about the conflict as if she herself was bearing the burden of ethnic cleansing.

[@virgil4marvolo5crowl]

​@SuperKripke does not you should be OK when the people you oppressed go on and opress someone else.

[@Peter-ej5nc]

She's a product of how academics are controlled in Germany.

[@Peter-ej5nc]

​@@SuperKripke I didn't get that impression at all about her and in your case get the impression you are ridiculing her.

[@SarraLovesTunisia]

How can someone claim to be a journalist and still be very ignorant on the topics she discusses? This is alarming.

[@pikemen3477]

@DPiddy_8128 I think you meant “fairness” with the hand movement. She was talking about justice as if it’s cheap unnecessary thing in life, like seriously, how can an adult with a basic level of education have this view of justice and even talking publicly undermining it and expecting any kind of positive results.

[@mygrandpasayshesd.b.cooper6200]

Cause that's what mainstream "journalists" do these days. It's propaganda. They're mouthpieces for everything that's wrong with this planet. Wanna see some real journalism? Check out The Grayzone.

[@ahmedabdullah8327]

She's not ignorant, she just can't defend the undefendable

[@VotYaVam]

The ignorance of Frau Kosubek is astounding. I’m even more in awe of Professor Mearsheimer for the infinite patience and tolerance he displayed during the interview

[@SarahAshelford-o1u]

She completely admits her lack of knowledge

[@VotYaVam]

@@SarahAshelford-o1u yes, but the way she constructs her questions presumes an established opinion which is often misinformed

[@SarahAshelford-o1u]

@ yes I see your point

[@giorfi-n7v]

Isn't that the point? She channels common opinions which he then can refute.

[@VotYaVam]

@@SarahAshelford-o1u thank you, Sarah

[@jdg9999]

"how can you call it an apartheid state when half of the population is Palestinians?" - lol, does she think blacks were a minority in South Africa or something? Apartheid South Africa had a 95% black population. And yes, there were blacks that had South African passports

[@firuzpulatov7750]

True. That argument was a little bit lame. But this made a good conversation even better. Probably she did it on purpose.

[@borisstremlin4577]

South Africa was 80% black, but the main point still stands.

[@MikeJanecek]

Her agnostic view is a little bit weird (in regard to Israel/Gaza) as to why the Palestinians don’t just accept their fate. Why didn’t Germany just accept the treaty of Versailles after ww1? They thought it was just so unfair they couldn’t.

[@abdulsufi7894]

She is German bro. They love Genocide.

[@xShiiqey]

@@MikeJanecek but in Germany people think that GER should have accepted the treaty of Versailles during the Weimarer Republic

[@dossantos_films]

She said she doesn't know nothing about the conflict, but 10 minutes later she talks about the videos people are circulating about Gaza being "a great place", talks about Palestinians having passports... When it comes to knowing about the Palestinians being murders she just says "I don't know much about it". What a joke...

[@秋分-d8i]

typical...

[@tompoynton]

It means she’s been fed lines to say, like all their propagandists are

[@itakarerio2821]

What do you expect man, she is German 3rd generation guilty

[@zenicv]

because these are the average B$ an average German reads in their favorite pro zoin1st propaganda newspaper of the day

[@vanillacarnivore]

Exactly typical of Zios

[@abdulghani8269]

Thank you Prof.J. Mearsheimer for PEACE work.Your brilliunt mind ,to humanity decency and justiice is immeasurable. God bless you.

[@aanakrukavi]

But will he go to Heaven as he is not Muslim even with this beautiful mind and thought?

[@midanwoleh2437]

She is a perfect example of the ignorance of German media towards Palestinians: She is not even aware that 2,3 Million people in Gaza are stateless. Stateless means, there is no entity defending your rights. Has she ever tried to understand what's going on there? It's painful to watch.

[@marieviva8220]

Who do you mean?

[@TheBerliner]

Defenseless is not what stateless means. There is an entire UN Organization tirelessly focused on assisting the population of Gaza and the West Bank called UNRWA. Both the US and the EU spend countless of millions each every year on the protection of the status quo. Benevolent people around the world are very charitable and politically active for the people, including about half the people in Israel -- until 10/7. You, my friend could reread your own commend and ponder. She is awesome, and her skepticism is appropriate.

[@Phil-n7c]

Germans are in an impossible position on this topic.

[@MYTAccount]

*The world is sick of **-Zios'-** criminality.* ✔

[@MYTAccount]

*I believe, if she was not in Germany, she would tell the truth less reluctantly and more conveniently about the genocide.*

[@Act1veSp1n]

John....what a mind...what a man. The disbelief on his face for last 20 minutes of this pod is priceless.

[@putra4101]

The disbelief which shared by many of us, I'm not surprised most Germans had this kind of thinking. They don't believe they support something heinous, just like when they support the moustache man from Austria. As John said there's no Free Speech regarding "that" issue.

[@Samirustem]

He is use to it. Talking to morons. At least she is not so bad to look at.

[@thinktank-uq3gx]

Man I agree 100% listening to a sain person is very healing

[@hexxan007]

​@@SamirustemI think you are being unjust here. She herself noticed the mental programming that blocked her from being objective. Morons can't do that.

[@TheBerliner]

He gets almost no pushback like what she gave him.

[@andyp5194]

“…Because they are Palestinian and that’s their land and they don’t wanna leave…” priceless

[@margaretcaine4219]

Actually it isn't their land. The reason most Palestinians have Egyptian and Syrian surnames is because their very recent ancestors migrated there when it was a British Mandate, looking for work, and prior to that from around 1900's when the Ottomans started building infrastructure such as railways. This lie of ownership now seems to be widely accepted but a simple Google search tells a different story. The whole Mandate area, including present day Jordan had a total population of less than 1 million yet today millions claim to be Palestinians and refugees by descent.

[@soulsmouls]

​@@margaretcaine4219 80% of Palestinians have over 50% of Canaanite ancestry. So no.

[@soulsmouls]

​@@margaretcaine4219 and afro Americans have English surnames. I guess they're from England now

[@soulsmouls]

Most Palestinians don't have Egyptian or Syrian surnames. They have Islamic surnames. You're just making stuff because you Zionists always lie. ​@@margaretcaine4219

[@chrismurray7004]

@@margaretcaine4219 Don't believe Israeli propaganda. It is mostly Palestinian land. See Wiki's page on the demographic history of Palestine for a more nuanced view eg Justin McCarthy...... ...evidence for Muslim immigration into Palestine is minimal. Because no Ottoman records of that immigration have yet been discovered, one is thrown back on demographic analysis to evaluate Muslim migration.. From analyses of rates of increase of the Muslim population of the three Palestinian sanjaks, one can say with certainty that Muslim immigration after the 1870s was small. Had there been a large group of Muslim immigrants their numbers would have caused an unusual increase in the population and this would have appeared in the calculated rate of increase from one registration list to another... Such an increase would have been easily noticed; it was not there. The argument that Arab immigration somehow made up a large part of the Palestinian Arab population is thus statistically untenable. The vast majority of the Palestinian Arabs resident in 1947 were the sons and daughters of Arabs who were living in Palestine before modern Jewish immigration began. There is no reason to believe that they were not the sons and daughters of Arabs who had been in Palestine for many centuries

[@Draxtor]

Germans have gone mad. Or have I lived outside of my country of birth for too long to have noticed it was always a apathetic/lack of empathy/lack of historical context coupled with smug elitism type society? At least in the so-called “Bildungsbürgertum“ strata. Thank you Mr. Mearsheimer. I would not be able to stay this calm!

[@themuffimaam]

I lived in Germany for some time. They all have the same opinion. The only difference is that it sounds different in English. But in German, it's fine because of the echo-chamber that is the German-speaking-world

[@churchofsolipsism2716]

@@themuffimaam German here - what exactly are you referring to when you say echo-chamber?

[@dudaboj1519]

@@themuffimaam , no, not all have the same opinion, but some are louder and more free to express it.

[@User-r5g5f]

Cultural Marxists who hated the Germans before the war were given free rein to manipulate Germans after the war.

[@User-r5g5f]

@@churchofsolipsism2716The echo chamber of cultural and mental slavery to 🇮🇱.

[@mango4ttwo635]

The Palestinians should not accept theft, imprisonment nor their slaughter. I knew a black south African. He told me he was a child in the Apartheid era, and visited Switzerland with his mother through his Swiss father. He begged his mother to allow them to move to Switzerland. His mother gave him a lesson he has never forgotten. "This is our country. And no racist thug or people is going to drive me or my family away from my homeland or yours." And shame on those Western nations enabling this slaughter. PS. Apartheid South Africa was beautiful, too

[@MADNESS084]

Being Agnostic on Gaza is crazy to me. You have one of the most genuine political scientists in the world. Telling you it was an apartheid state. A few pretty pictures doesn’t change how they’ve been treated for decades. You have a platform interview some of them.

[@solid1378]

When she brought up Hasbara Propaganda photos, you can see that Dr. Mearsheimer was genuinely shocked & disgusted. I could see that he was very angry too. Kudos to him for maintaining his composure. Germans have habit of always being on the wrong side of history. Her crazy views confirms something depraved about Germans & Germany...👹

[@thehotsuop1]

Consciously or unconsciously, some people decide to be Agnostic on Palestine issue.

[@dindu551]

why interview an Arab? nobody has any sympathy for Islam, full stop. Islam cannot get along with any of its neighbors anywhere in the world. sick of it.

[@josereyes-md2ww]

She's so cute as in silly and stupid and ignorant. She's lucky she's kinda pretty

[@rethinkingtools7425]

Being agnostic tell a lot about your subconsciens . what do you think about pride guilt? Thanks about it

[@ICreatedU1]

One can notice the switch from genuine debate to dishonesty on her part from the moment she starts interrupting Mearsheimer constantly, because it is not about his answers anymore, it's about confirming her bias, nothing else. That's what she calls "being agnostic". How did she put it? "The situation in Palestine is a series of "unfortunate" events". Right.

[@kathiduran9583]

@ICreatedU1 exactly. This is the second interview I’ve seen this week wherein the interviewer constantly says “I don’t know anything about it” then proceeds to put forth every talking point that western civilian has used for centuries to justify their genocides, crimes against humanity and theft of resources. It’s pretty stunning to me that ppl in western civilization just refuse to recognize their history 😢 Then again, I think I was decolonized the minute I came from the womb so have recognized the abuses of the West since a child. To me it’s just incredible how propagandized western populations are, even in genocide 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@stanislavstoimenov1729]

@@kathiduran9583 when reading your comment , all I hear is the losers' knee jerk reaction to whine and complain. The West was, and still is, the strongest -- that's all there is to it.

[@DerFlotteReiter]

​@@kathiduran9583 I follow her for a while and so I guess: she will adapt her mind based new information.

[@atishbaboolal6993]

@@DerFlotteReiter haha good luck with that sentiment. People like her will never change their bias. She’s scummy as hell.

[@pranavjagdish]

October 7th was also a an unfortunate event. But people dont have any moral consistency. All laws and IHL is for Palestinians not for anyone else

[@megawutt]

Jasmin, Jasmin. Ich kann es immer noch nicht fassen, was für einen Quatsch du hier verzapft hast.

[@jamessethi5792]

Is she a political analyst in Germany ? I don’t know her but I am in complete shock..

[@lolakauffmann]

@@jamessethi5792She is a well known Putin propagandist. Worked for RT, the russian tv channel. She is not mainstream media, nor respected independent media. And Maersheimer stoops really low, since his fall from grace after predicting Putin would never big scale invade Ukraine!

[@midanwoleh2437]

The moment Mersheimer realizes Kosubek is not ready for this topic: "I watched a few video's where people posted how nice Gaza was before the war, so it wasn't a prison. Either Gaza was shitty or not" Mersheimer: "Gaza was shitty". I love his patience.

[@melina7026]

she would have fawned over nazi concentration camps too lol

[@wolfgangreichl3361]

I'm not certain of Kosubek, she does seem to often play the advokatus diaboli to provoke opposition/clarification ( ... or maybe not??).

[@stanislavstoimenov1729]

@@wolfgangreichl3361 preparing oneself for a discussion with someone like mr. Marsheimer isn't a simple task at all.

[@timfronimos459]

@@stanislavstoimenov1729 My first thought was hse's out of her depth on this one.

[@MA-bt9ui]

Gaza was a prime real estate left by the Israelis 2005 bordering two strong Neighbours Israel and Egypt. Why the Palestines crossed almost soly Israels border for work?

[@patriciaknight1332]

Genocide is absolute EVIL

[@pierrekid]

Yes! They need to stop sending missiles in to Israel. Thank you

[@willfeen]

vengeance is God’s. There will be wrathful retribution that terrifies even the innocent. But also makes the way for us 🌈

[@us3ryx]

Liebe Frau Kosubek, ich habe mir Ihre Sendungen in letzter Zeit öfter angeschaut und war sehr überrascht und erfreut, dass so ein Hochkaräter wie John Mearsheimer Ihrer Einladung folgte. Was mich weniger erfreute oder besser gesagt, erschütterte, ist Ihr Mangel an Wissen in puncto Naher Osten. Ich finde, wenn man jemanden über dieses Thema befragt, sollte man selbst wenigstens das nötige Grundwissen haben. Ich glaube nicht, dass ich zurückkommen werde.

[@juliannaruffini]

ja furchtbar, die weiß ja gar nichts, peinlich

[@rashafaqeh670]

It is not that she does not know, she decides that she does not want to know!!!

[@موعوذ]

Die Frau ist peinlich und unmenschlich. Sollte sich ein anderen Job suchen.

[@nafeesulhasan2762]

I must give a hats off for his clarity and morality.

[@he1461]

Excellent analysis, as always by Pr Mearsheimer. He does not mince words. He stayed polite and considerate when the interviewer asked him idiotic questions and made a number of stupid comments.

[@historydiscover]

Maybe Jasmin Kosubek can give her home and her country to israelis and stop asking us to do it for her? Then we can have peace?

[@NJIT22]

@@historydiscover return land to the Jews and go back to SA. Amazigh people are saying “Arabs came to our land on camels but will return on airplanes”. The same thing is here

[@NJIT22]

@@historydiscover you are the proverbial imperialist, it’s time to revisit the history of your ancestors and reevaluate what they have done to others

[@historydiscover]

@@NJIT22 you would only be able to say it is 'jewish land' after 30 years of British occupation and the destruction of over 500 Palestinian villages from 1947-1949

[@zeflute4586]

indeed. Germans can go elsewhere 🤣

[@pikemen3477]

@@NJIT22 Europeans are not from the Middle east. Having ancestors that followed a religion originated from there doesn't grant you land after 3000 years of not being related to them.

[@idkmanwhat9279]

Her German guilt for something she wasnt even born around that time is her dying on a hill illogically defending Israel under all circumstances

[@soulsmouls]

It's not guilt, it's obedience

[@slightlyamusedyoutuber3517]

Her surname isn't even German

[@vadalafir-jd2ui]

This isn't why Germans do what they do, it is never about guilt, it is about shifting the blame to arabs, they successfully did this back during cold wars by calling nasser a nazi, and it was west germany that armed and funded early zionists and israel before US, they also never de nazified and some ex Waffen SS agents literally joined mossad, see.. germany never denazified, they took a pause

[@YevhenKabasin]

No, its Israel totally logically protecting itself after worst terrorist attack in the world since 9\11

[@slightlyamusedyoutuber3517]

It's Isreel that has illogically chosen to 0ccupy and besiege an entire people for decades. Isreel continues to expand s3ttlements on 1llegally 0ccupied land, in clear violation of international law. In July 2024, the International Court of Justice (ICJ) ruled that Isreel must withdraw from 0ccupied territories and dismantle all 1llegal s3ttlements, reaffirming longstanding UN resolutions that have condemned the occupation and s3ttlement expansion. Additionally, in 2023 alone, before October, Isreeli settlers in the 1llegally 0ccupied West Bank were responsible for kllling over 240 Palestinians.

[@Aykoo]

Liebe Jasmin. Mit deinem Part zu Gaza hast du wahrlich den Vogel abgeschossen. Respekt. Das kriegt nicht jeder hin. Der internationale Gerichtshof lässt grüßen.

[@stevebeschakis9775]

Great interview. I'm glad the German police didn't arrest Prof. Mearsheimer for saying unflattering things about Israel. hahaha

[@craigcorbet]

They did to Celtic fans vs Dortmund. Shame on them.

[@baitman2368]

That would be terrible PR, that's the only reason they didn't arrested him

[@Jean-rg4sp]

@@baitman2368 Give them time.

[@Dumbo12345]

Warte nur ab.

[@GeemBee-yz8no]

I'm pretty sure she said at the start that they were in London.

[@emfegmfeg7100]

She believes that because some areas of Gaza are semi-developed and maintained, it doesn’t qualify as an open-air prison. This overlooks the fact that Palestinians are incredibly resourceful and resilient people.

[@Sophsta04]

Just a thought, seeing as the HAMAS leaders are pretty much all multi millionaires, is there a slim possibility that the billions on foreign aid were not spent on developing the infrastructure of Gaza? Just consider for 1 second is it possible the 2.4 billion dollars spent building the network of terror tunnels may have been better spent investing in desalination plants, super-efficient gas power stations, business investment, and development or possibly heal care? THEN finally consider the infant mortality rate in Gaza and the life expectancy in Gaza are on a par with most western countries and way above many of the surrounding Arab countries? How exactly can this be if they live in an open air prison that's hell hole? Do you think the infant mortality rate and life expectancy in the German concentration camps or the Warsaw Ghetto was on par with the average Western country? Yassa Arafat, an Egyptian nephew of an infamous Nazi supporter who worked with Hitler in WW2 and planned to set up German-style death camps in Israel if Germany won the war, Haj Amin al-Husseini (former Grand Mufti of Jerusalem appointed by the British after they pardoned him for the crime of in sighting the murder of Jews at the annual Nebu Musa parade after proclaiming (falsely) that Jews had murdered and raped Arabs, THAT Yasa Arafat KGB agent died with a net worth of $1,000,000,000 having at one time had financial interests valued at $3,000,000,000. Can you explain where he got that money, please?

[@rugheadedporchmonkey]

@@Sophsta04 but that might make sense right! we won't be having any of that!

[@GeemBee-yz8no]

@@Sophsta04 Sprouting and tossing out Israeli-created propaganda will not get you far. Keep on lying, mate.

[@globalcitizenn]

@@Sophsta04 That is literally Israeli propaganda. Hamas leaders are definitely NOT “multi millionaires”. Yahya Sinwar lived in the tunnels with his men, fought on the field and hadn’t eaten for 3 days when he died. Definitely not what corrupt “multi millionaires” do. This kind of propaganda is just a smear campaign by the colonisers.

[@dltguitar6532]

@@Sophsta04there was a blockade on Gaza not to mention they were bombed multiple times with infrastructure and farms deliberately targeted

[@HalaMa10]

The beginning of the interview was good. After that she's making very strange arguments: "Sometimes things are unfair" excuse me?? If the Netherlands tomorrow decides to take over Belgium and remove all the people to France. Should the Belgian, accept that? Cause yeah sometimes things go unfair... What logic is this???

[@MasKurto-mv5ie]

I totally agree, it is even strange that her English and reasoning become poor when talking about Palestine and Israel

[@IanDocker-rf7cw]

Could not agree with you more. Her expectation that the Palestinians simply shut up shop after centuries of connection to the land. Could imagine saying to an Englishman or American to do that? Didn't also like the way she generalised about Arabs

[@Amalokch]

Exactly what I was thinking!

[@Amalokch]

@@MasKurto-mv5ieI noticed also that, she started to forget English words and so on, and saying; I am just agnostic

[@solid1378]

Well ya know, Germans have a constant problem of always being on the wrong side of history. Her abominable ideas & views is a mask-off moment...👹

[@zhraaomar]

Her remarks about Gaza’s beauty and how scenes of life there contradict the depiction of Gaza as a massive prison camp are among the most absurd questions I have ever heard. The difficult living conditions in Gaza do not mean that its people haven’t tried to improve their lives and work tirelessly to make Gaza a livable place. On the contrary, the beautiful scenes of life in Gaza further indict Israel. Despite the siege imposed on it, Gaza has managed to remain perpetually beautiful. However, the brutality and barbarity of the Zionists have consistently contributed to its destruction. You cannot blame the Palestinians for this devastation; all they want is their stolen land, nothing more. As for the part about Palestinian refugees, it reflects the superficial and shallow thinking of the interviewer. Why should Palestinians compromise and abandon their land? Just because Europeans have done so in the past doesn’t mean Palestinians are obligated to follow their example. This is a blessed land, and Palestinians want to return to it even if it takes a hundred years. While Palestinians in most Arab countries have obtained citizenship and are treated as full-fledged citizens, this does not negate their right to return to their homeland. The betrayal of some Arab regimes does not equate to the abandonment of Palestinians by the Arab people, who continue to stand with them and will always support them with whatever they can. The foremost form of support is ensuring that Palestinians remain on their land, preserving it, and fighting for it-not leaving it to become citizens of neighboring countries while leaving their land to the barbaric thieves!

[@leoncariz]

💯💯so true, everything you said is exactly what i think about our current situation.

[@Fromrivertotheseaps]

@zhraaomar sister they are nazi

[@bubu6210]

Jasmin's argument "why do the Palestinians not just leave and go into another Arab country" is insane and shows how little she understands about the history of the conflict. With this logic, the Boors in South Africa could have said "the Black people should just leave South Africa after having been oppressed by the white minority for 250 years and go into one of the many neighboring "black" countries. Why did this work with the Germans - e.g. why did the vast majority of the German people accepted to have given up vast territories in the East after the lost world war is a different question ... which I don't want to go into now.

[@Dr.Seltsam100]

You compare things, that are totally different.

[@josereyes-md2ww]

She's incredibly idiotic, ignorant, and unprincipled on the matter.

[@startfromwithin8107]

​@@Dr.Seltsam100but still is her suggestion bullsh...t😢.

[@TheoOosthuizen-xs2nq]

Except my people didn't oppress black people for 250 years, it shows you how little you understand about the history of South Africa. South Africa, the Union of South Africa, is only a little over a hundred years old. And before the English unified the Union it did so over the corpses of the Boer republics and different black kingdoms at the time. So how exactly did my Boer ancestors oppress black people for 250 years? Can you give me an example? The Cape Colony, which the English took over from the Dutch and started expanding into black kingdoms and the eventual Boer Republics, only started its expansion about 200 years ago, and they were a separate group from my people (the Boer) and the Cape Dutch who were also an entirely different group at that time subjugated by the English. Bantus aren't native of South Africa, they've been here for about 1500 years, during which time they displaced Khoi people (according to genetics they killed the men and took the woman which was normal in that period), so the question becomes how far do we go back to call people colonizers and non-natives and why? You don't want to go into the question of the ethnic cleansing of German communities in the East after and before ww2, in some cases even before ww1, because it doesn't fit your political narrative to acknowledge Germans as human beings.

[@TheoOosthuizen-xs2nq]

@@startfromwithin8107 Not really. You're operating on an idealist position, and technically so is Mearsheimer, because you want to pretend there is fairness in the world, and you want to pretend that people all treat each other with respect. History both past and present tell a different story. I see no reason why a German should support Palestinians against Israeli ethnic cleansing if Palestinians don't oppose the ethnic cleansing of Germans that occurred in recent history. Why should people treat others better than others treat them?

[@SectionSixteen]

J.M. always responds with great patience and courtesy when he's challenged by someone knowing a lot less than he knows. Never condescending. Always impeccably the gentleman.

[@margaritadubrovina7063]

“When China comes to us : we got new bridges, hospitals or schools, when US comes to us - we got lectures “ from Africa

[@langzeitstratege3191]

Das ist leider nicht korrekt. Urheber ist der namibianische Präsident. Er sagte, dass er von Deutschland eine Predigt erhalte. Von Deutschland. Und die Deutschen sollen nicht über China reden, sondern über ihre eigenen Probleme und vor der eigenen Haustür kehren. Bitte richtig informieren.

[@MarcoZeuner]

Können wohl mehrere gesagt haben nehme ich an😂

[@jakebarnes28]

​@@MarcoZeunerthere was a saying in Germany after the war, during the occupation: "the British promise nothing and deliver nothing, the Russians promise everything and deliver nothing, the Americans promise nothing and deliver everything." (A History of Germany 1945-1947).

[@margaritadubrovina7063]

@@jakebarnes28 what exactly?

[@dipderpderp6988]

@@jakebarnes28 What does a 80 year old saying have anything to do with the world we're living in? The US was the last industrialized country standing in 1945. Now its industry has mostly hollowed out and is living in their long past glory by sucking wealth and resources from the rest of the world. Things have changed.

[@jaypie8]

Reading thru the vast majority of these comments brings joy to my heart ✊️✊️✊️

[@roycoco1085]

Wow. She basically says "just accept being driven off your land!" At least she's honest but very disgusting.

[@nishobit.1293]

Very disgusting also that Europeans drove out natives from America and Australia, right? And FYI it was the Arabs who first ethnically cleansed the Arabic peninsula from Jews and Christians.

[@Seb7an]

And now imagine a woman like this with the power of USA. The whole world would burn. 😂

[@ealtinta]

And she does not explain how can Palestinians leave Palestine without some other country accepting them. Does Germany accept all Gazans if they want to leave? What about US? What about Egypt or Jordan? This is like asking Jews to leave Germany in 1935. Did anyone give unconditional visas to all Jews in Germany at that time? Only most affluent Gazans could leave for Egypt by paying tens of thousands of bribes. Just like only few Jews could leave Germany during Holocaust.

[@BojanPeric-kq9et]

Jasmin explained to us all that there are "acceptable" ethnic cleansing and some other were "unacceptable". Some may wonder where is that fine line? It is very simply: depends on lobbyists, PR/public opinion shaping agencies and money poured in. Or maybe "acceptable" ethnic cleansing became a thing in 2023 so everything before (but after WW2!) was barbaric by those damned Serbs/Arabs/Russians/.

[@daniervonnaroon4696]

Anyway she is right with this point. Some millions of germans had to leave their homelands because of the results of 2WW. What world would we live is this german people never restarted an rebuild their life ??

[@Jose-w9x9x]

I am from Mexico and follow Prof Mearsheimer on a regular basis and always find him fascinating, for his knowledge and very solid arguments. Just ordered his book on AIPAC and look forward to reading it

[@zenlei8258]

Why did Mexico never get to export to US tariff free ? Why is Mexico cannot benefit from being next to the biggest consumer market inthe world which is USA ?

[@richardparker1338]

@@zenlei8258 Because the US doesn't see an advantage. The US is fundamentally against the economic development of its backyard, Latin America, which it wants to keep relatively poor, exploitable and not a threat.

[@Lurch685]

@@zenlei8258because Mexicans export millions and millions of unskilled migrants into our country, weakening it.

[@zenlei8258]

@@richardparker1338 I think Mexico are not able to gain economic advantage is mainly due to poor quality leadership. The mexican elite are too closely linked with the cartel who are linked to the american deep state becos of immense profit. The elite on both sides do not want to give up the huge profit from the cartel.

[@zenlei8258]

@@richardparker1338 Why must Mexico depend on US market alone. There is a big market in EU and Japan too. Why China can be the biggest exporter inthe world when China is very far away from US ? It is because Mexico have poor quality leadership who never cares for the poor and middle class people.

[@Spook291]

"Many of us like to ask ourselves, What would I do if I was alive during slavery? Or the Jim Crow South? Or apartheid? What would I do if my country was committing genocide?' The answer is, you're doing it. Right now." - Former U.S. Airman (Air Force) Aaron Bushnell

[@bupo123]

Thank you, John Mearsheimer, for your frankness on the Palestinian issue. I am truly amazed at how successfully the "lobby" has frightened even very intelligent Germans into submission to their propaganda. Trying to explain this with "agnosticism" in the face of what the whole world can witness every single day makes me very sad and almost hopeless. Perhaps the seed you have planted will grow into a small plant of hope, even if it seems weak at first.

[@rogerhagger]

"very intelligent Germans!?"

[@bupo123]

​@@rogerhagger She's not stupid, but she's brainwashed and probably scared. The lobby is powerful and ruthless.

[@anbang4531]

If she is considered as a "very intelligent German " then the mighty Germany that made the world tremble has truly fallen .

[@BalkanMode]

Jasmin is making some very stupid comments. Why should Palestinians leave their land? Why doesn’t Netanyahu go back to Poland? I’m not buying this “I’m agnostic” BS. Jasmine is playing dumb.

[@adamrandall5163]

@@BalkanMode she knows exactly what's going on. Even JM found it difficult to hide his revulsion at her questions and statements. He caught his disgust pretty quickly and channeled it into maintaining his composure which allowed the conversation to remain constructive. I could not be that professional and I doubt there are many out there that can fully comprehend the coldness and cruelty of what she was saying while remaining calm.

[@Edin-c2d]

She should be in the kitchen, but maybe came there by mistake.

[@baassiia]

As a polish person - they hate Poles. They will hate no matter where they go.

[@Edin-c2d]

@@StGeorge257 She is quite stupid.

[@Edin-c2d]

@@StGeorge257 Very stupid.

[@25redman25]

The second she said, "i am agnostic to the situation and see strange things," made me realise how she is not a true journalist nor a decent human being. How can you see day in and day out children being slaughtered, orphaned , amputated, etc... and feel agnostic? Truly remarkable how people, especially Germans, given their history that they can be "agnostic" Power of the lobby truly being displayed here as John points out! He just proves his point even more. Support her in interviewing him on her platform but not her spineless character with regard to the genocide.

[@grpdv]

She is a hostage of censorship in Germany and has to be very careful at what she says to avoid criminal prosecution.

[@nic_cage]

Guilt for WW2

[@andrewlesterthomas5581]

And neither are you for not mentioning YEMEN and who is responsible: IRAN AND THE HOUTHIS: the same as those responsible for attacking the Jews and causing the Gaza crisis - along with Russia!

[@toughsituation8347]

Germans slowly but surely are on the way back to their old ways.

[@Dorothymorrissey]

Palestinians should not have to pay for Germany’s guilt -

[@melakunegash7556]

John Mearsheimer , Jeffry Sachs and Noam Chomsky are my favorite scholars!

[@marybarton2011]

And Norman Finklestein and Howard Zinn. GOATs

[@Nillu888]

Ayatollah Chomsky

[@RobPires]

@@Nillu888Is that his Hasbara name? It is Noam Chomsky.

[@Peter-ej5nc]

Noam Chomsky pretends not to know anything Jeffrey Epstein and Woody Allen and is a coward on 9/11.

[@atm-gs2vv]

@@RobPiresit’s basically an insult to anyone who shuts their trash down. They resort to being an islamaphobe.

[@omarjoamm]

Jasmin admits she doesnt understand anything about Gaza but I worry about her moral compass

[@edenrosederonsard]

Especially when she says she doesn’t understand why other countries don’t just accept 2m Palestinian refugees! Jasmine, would you like to welcome 2m Palestinian refugees in Germany since your govt supports Israel? Probably not! This situation is similar with many other countries but as the Professor quite rightly points out to you why should the Palestinians go somewhere when they have their own land?! 🤯

[@andrewlesterthomas5581]

And I worry yours and all Muslims who know perectly well, this is about the eradication of Israel, whilst knowing and ignoring what is happening in YEMEN where the same culprits are at play: IRAN, HOUTHIS and of course: ISLAM!

[@ElenaMorell-v7e]

Nope, she is uneducated and hypocritical.

[@andrewlesterthomas5581]

@ElenaMorell-v7e you lot can't see wood for trees. She will never talk about Israel honestly as Russia with Iran were the architects of the problem. She is a Russian stooge

[@titikyulianti2897]

​@JarirTabari-vl6qr I don't understand what it have to do with being agnostic?

[@Mich2024]

Watching this from New Zealand. Jasmin is getting schooled by the world’s best and she still keeps on digging her hole. Jasmin shut up and listen. Be respectful and learn.

[@indridi]

I agree. She wasn’t being respectful in the end. Like a pubescent child, not willing to accept facts.

[@albanismaili8271]

True

[@walterstoll8043]

Well compared to your CovidLockdown president* Mrs Arden - Jasmin is a perfekt moderator. NZ could be proud to have such Jasmin women in politics.

[@masonschannel9506]

I think she did well and was receptive for the majority of the interview. But it's amazing to see reason and logic run head into the programming absorbed by osmosis and exposure to the Zionist propaganda seeded throughout the world by Israel

[@koujhgloup]

@@walterstoll8043Feel free to worship and keep her in Germany. No one wants a genocide sympathizer.

[@cedubrutal]

What a brave woman! Exposing her brazing ignorance, stupidity, and lack of humanity without fear of judgement.

[@guraminiro]

100% accurate 😂😂 It's like describing the zionist mentality 😂

[@Facerip]

German fascist brainrot in play

[@tpb2]

She seemed intelligent right up to the Gaza discussion - was it then that indoctrination kicked in? She is uncomfortable with the term Genocide - has she heard of the ICC? Why can't a displaced people not just accept their displacement? She was vague about how it all began - were the British involved? If the Palestinians would just give up and disappear then the Israelis wouldn't need to slaughter them. You must have to work very hard to be that ignorant.

[@Silent_Death]

She is simply afraid.

[@AIembeddings]

​@@Silent_DeathI would say she's very brave to make such unhinged remarks then put on KZbin

[@Silent_Death]

@ Watch the full part of Gaza where she states she is afraid to not to know.

[@12nuk]

@@Silent_Death Not to know is basically a choice at this point

[@Facerip]

Germans wants to desperate wash the blood of one genocide from their hands with the blood of another. They think that if they dont let Israel commit genocide and do whatever they want, they are antisemites.

[@gunnarwaage4343]

The answer to the genocide question is simple: there is a legal threshold, look up "genocide convention 1948" Why do the neigboring states not help ? Even though support for Palestinian rights is overwelming, those are not democratic states so their leaders do not make decicions based on the will of the public. I think Germany has a serious problem understanding this matter. According to international law, Gaza, west bank, east Jerusalem, Golan heights and the Jordan Valley are illegal settlements under International law. This means all unlawful settlers will have to be removed from those areas.

[@Seekingwisdom123]

To add to your point, Regimes in Jordan and Egypt are propped up by the United States. See list of US aid recipients. As for Saudi Arabia, the tyrannical rulers are afraid of their subjugated population and count on the US to keep them in power, an example was when the current crown prince wanted to overthrow his cousin he needed the green light from the White House and when Obama seemingly said no, they waited for Trump who agreed in return for arm deals and basically shaking down the Saudis.

[@gibrailhassan]

israel will grab land, and never give it back, like it did with Golan Heights which belongs to Syria

[@al-al5497]

The legal threshold you refer to was established by Raphael Lemkin a Polish Jew who coined the term genocide and campaigned for establishlishment for the Genocide Convention which produced the "legal threshold" based on the Holocaust.

[@charlesscott4722]

Also the neighbornig countries don't have the military to do anything, and most of them depend on US's aid

[@Jean-rg4sp]

@@charlesscott4722 They have more military than Hamas.

[@salmankhawaja9626]

Good conversation but I think there was a major misconception implicit in one of Jasmin's questions during the Israel-Gaza section of this podcast. Her question implied that the Palestinians are i) a population of refugees, ii) that that has been their status since their displacement in 1948 and iii) they should come to terms with their loss and move on because iv) it is a foregone conclusion that they are not going to get their country back and their fight is therefore futile. That may or may not be true for Palestinians living in refugee camps in the surrounding Arab countries who might never be permitted back into what is today Israel proper. But what about the Palestinians living in the West Bank and Gaza? Granted some of them are refugees from the Nakba (1948) who were expelled from what became Israel. But they are now living on land - the West Bank and Gaza - where they are a clear majority and that does not legally belong to Israel. This land could form the basis of a Palestinian State in the event of a two state solution. Should they accept their permanent statelessness? Should they leave and go elsewhere as refugees to eventually be assimilated into another country? Or should they struggle for their rights and self-determination on territory which i) has historically been their's, ii) where they are still living as an overwhelming majority and iii) that has been earmarked by the United Nations as the basis of an eventual Palestinian state.

[@svenr.8365]

It is incorrect to say that the Palestinians are a majority in Gaza as jews are simply not allowed there. Gaza was free of jews since 2006, when Israel left Gaza completely in the pursuit of peace. What happened next was that Hamas took over. Gaza had the chance and the freedom to determinate themselves since 2006. Yet Hamas chose terror. And unfortunately an overwhelming majority of Palestinians do not fight for and do not want a two-state solution. They want the whole territory and the jews gone. Check the channel „ask an Israeli/ask a Palestinian“. You will hear their answers.

[@Sara123-j8t]

​@@svenr.8365😂😂😂really? Are u sure? It IS completely thé opposite. Who rejects since the beginning the 2 staats solution? Even the UNO is completely ignored.

[@madrooky1398]

Those in Gaza and Westbank should join Israel, the best choice they could make for themselves and their children. But they wont do that and probably even if they would want to now, I don't think Israel could accept it at this point. All sails a set for war now and the lines are as blurry as they have never been. Your remark about history is simply wrong for the fact that the history of this place is much older than the ethnic people identifying themselves as Palestinian. Heck the Islam is the youngest of the three big religions yet they have the wildest claims about history. Don't let these things get to your head, all religious fanatics will tell you the same no matter from which side. The logical choice would be to let history rest and settle with an agreement under which all involved people can be okay with. Issue is now, can you find such an agreement between people living a dogmatic philosophy? If I had a say in German politics about this, I would withdraw any financial help for Palestine via UN and any help for Israel, UNTIL, both sides would stop any hostile actions and start seriously talking to each other how their people can live in peace. And that will require from both to step back from historical and religious claims, and settle on the shared humanity. For someone not trapped in a dogmatic world view this seems rather simple.

[@salmankhawaja9626]

@@svenr.8365 Your description of what happened in Gaza in 2006 is completely inaccurate. Gaza was occupied by Israel in 1967 during the course of a war. The Israeli settlements that were built in Gaza were illegal because under international law it is illegal to transfer a population into an occupied territory. Furthermore, the settlements, in both the Gaza and the West Bank, were a major obstacle to the peaceful resolution of the conflict because they undermined the viability of a future Palestinian state. When Israel left Gaza in 2006, they dismantled settlements (which should not have been there in the first place because they were a violation of international law), but they did not dismantle the occupation. In fact, they maintained their control over the borders, the surrounding waters as well as the airspace, deciding who and what could go in and go out. Over time, the occupation was turned into a brutal, suffocating siege which only allowed in the minimal number of calories to ensure Gazans had only just enough sustenance to survive. Gaza was turned into a barely habitable concentration camp, in order to make the lives of the Palestinian inhabitants unbearable so that they would leave. Moreover, the settler withdrawal from Gaza was part of a broader plan to accelerate settlement building in the West Bank, which was also a major violation of international law and which the Israelis proceeded to do immediately after "leaving" Gaza. They withdrew 8 to 9 thousand settlers from Gaza, but in the following year alone introduced 12 thousand new settlers into the West Bank.

[@svenr.8365]

@ Sorry, but this is complete nonsense. First of all it is totally normal, that a sovereign state maintains control over it‘s own borders. This is part of the definition of being a state. And furthermore it is unevitable if Your neighbour endlessly commits terror attacs on Your country. This argument is childish. And why do You think that Israel has any obligation to supply water to Gaza? Why do You not ask that from Egypt, that has a border to Gaza by the way too? Israel had no control of the border to Egypt, so all Your further arguments are nonsense too. How could Israel prevent Egypt from providing anything to Gaza from its own border? Few other countries got such huge amounts of international aid that did Gaza. And where is all the money? No water supply. No own educational system. Nothing for the population. But terror tunnels and rockets. And Hamas leaders who are billionaires. And by the way: How did they leave Gaza to go to Qatar if it is so closed up? 🤦🏻‍♀️ If the situation would be the way that You describe it, I would agree with You. No doubt. But it is not. Still I feel really sorry for the population of Gaza because they are being used by the iranian mullahs and other islamists to put pressure and to perpetrate terror on Israel. Gazans should be freed from Hamas and Iran.

[@Caissator]

The professor shows Jasmin a lot of kindness and understanding of her ignorance and discomfort with using certain terms. It seems to be that his approach wins hearts and minds.

[@gerardodmedina]

Amazed to see how an intelligent person works so hard to look stupid...jasmin is painful to see playing the genocide down...

[@josereyes-md2ww]

No way she is intelligent. She asked stupid questions thruout, not just on the Gaza issue. The Gaza issue just illustrated her intellectual dishonesty and her refusal to acknowledge facts presented to her by one of the most knowledgeable minds in the world.

[@peegee2024]

​@josereyes-md2ww when a lack of intelligence and prejudice converge, then you get the kind of questions she poses.

[@krusestephan4009]

Meine Damen und Herren! Dieser Podcast wird immer besser. Von alltäglichen Dingen hin zu geostrategie. Klasse. Mir tun die Leute jeden Tag mehr leid, die sich ausschließlich im Mainstream informieren.

[@JasminKosubekOriginal]

Vielen Dank!

[@albert29818]

Weiter so💖👍👌😊​@@JasminKosubekOriginal

[@manuheber9011]

​@@JasminKosubekOriginalEine durchaus bemerkenswerte Leistung so lange auf Englisch (als Fremdsprache) diese ganze Zeit durchzuhalten. Chapeau & 🎩 ab! 👍

[@Yps3]

Hallo Jasmin, dieses Interview ist großartig! Du stellst die Fragen, die man sich unweigerlich stellt wenn man sich dieses politische Trauerspiel anschaut, die aber in den Systemmedien einfach nicht vorkommen, geschweige fachlich fundiert diskutiert werden. Danke an Prof. Mearsheimer.

[@mo-kq8ko]

​@@JasminKosubekOriginaldonate them to a charity in shitty Gaza.

[@overseeingeye]

Now I’m thinking - how could you presume to invite someone as famous and educated as John Mearsheimer, attempt to pose geopolitical arguments, while not even being prepared on contemporary Israeli / Palestinian history? You basically failed your debate session by showing up totally unprepared.

[@laoch5658]

both wars are American proxy wars but yet you support one

[@kolejny111111]

She is not unprepared, she just would not accept the facts, she tried to put some ambivalence in to the subject but she failed, that is why she appeared as a kind moron here;the antipathy for migrants is so great that anything they might believe ought to be wrong

[@LakeNeeks]

@@overseeingeye exactly, I would be mortified to see such a terrible performance of myself. I remember preparing harder for grade school presentations, forget grad school 😂😂.

[@overseeingeye]

@@LakeNeeks Right? And to think that it was deemed fit to post online...

[@LakeNeeks]

@@overseeingeye yeah it was painful to watch her grasp for one straw man argument after another 😂

[@Wisdomisgift]

Your questions reflects your hate.. and encouraging oppressors to exploiting their powers against innocents .. thank you professor for standing in the right side of history .. and shame on you jasmin

[@mojedsamad7184]

She pretends to be stupid on Gaza and then end up casually defending ethnically cleansing them. "Why don't you just go to other countries?" Why don't you accept the Israelis in your country?

[@solid1378]

🎯🎯🎯

[@k.s.421]

Yes, she was not well prepared in in some ways i would say she is very naive. I was a bit disappointed. Following her channel since a while (in German) and she had great interviews most of the time. Jasmin obviously needs a bit more education on this topic.

[@kathiduran9583]

@mojedsamad7184 exactly. Why wasn’t her FIRST response “if Israel would just give them back their land the fighting would end”. Because colonizers honestly believe they have the right to take whatever they want. It’s western civilizations only history and all they can identify with 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@allydea]

​@kathiduran9583 there was never such thing as Palestinian state and Jerusalem is called Jerusalem for a reason. Who are the colonizers here?

[@solid1378]

@@allydea Sure Bevis. Jerusalem was called Al Quds long before the imposter joo-converts came to steal the lands. You have a homeland, it's called Khazaria. Now skidooo & go back.

[@cocosocialistrat8979]

Ok she has screwed up now with the argument 1h25m 😂 No you can’t steal someones land and not expect the people to resist!!

[@Midorimatt-v8k]

Yea that shit was weird, she was turning full german there

[@Phil-n7c]

It really went down hill at 1h 20m.... But this is the situation Germans are currently in. One day it will change as our understanding about the past evolves.

[@sk8erbyern]

@@Phil-n7c it's not the past that's the problem, it is the present and the future. You guys think you are hot shit, even if you didn't commit the holocaust you would still be morally abhorrent people all around because the whole west is germany or not. Do not use the Nazis as a shield, event the anti-nazis suck. Heck it was fucking Stalin who supported Israel like Marx ordered him to do it.

[@michaelschutz5817]

@@Midorimatt-v8k *Was hat das mit "ganz deutsch" zu tun? Wenn, dann nur etwas mit "ganz anti-deutsch".*

[@Miguel-th3wx]

@@michaelschutz5817 germans try to answer an english comment in english. Impossible

[@vt21081]

I had no idea that Germans were so brainwashed. In fact, I believed that they were sophisticated people. @JasminKosubekOriginal proved me wrong. Conflicted about the Gaza genocide? What's wrong with you?

[@candicechieffo884]

Professor Mearsheimer is the man ❤

[@schrimpf]

Chapeau Fr. Kosubek! Den Herrn Mearsheimer - einer der ganz Großen - vors Mikrofon zu bekommen - tolle Leistung und Kompliment!

[@voodjin]

Ich kann den Kerl nicht für voll nehmen. Russland ist nicht so stark, aber sie treten gerade der ganzen NATO in den Arsch. China hat noch nie einen modernen Krieg gekämpft oder gewonnen, aber die sind die ultimative Bedrohung für die USA. Die haben zwar keine Navy, von der man sprechen könnte, aber die sind echt gefährlich … der Typ reden wie ein US-Politiker mit wenig Ahnung übers Militär. Da gibt es bessere Gäste zu dem Thema als ihn und ich hoffe, die kommen auch mal zu Wort.

[@jhopmann2000]

Genau DAS wollte ich gerade schreiben! Ich denke Frau Kosubek ist genau die Richtige für ein derartiges Interview, aber zugegeben, auch eine "schwergewichtige Aufgabe!"

[@geoeconomics5629]

Those who control EurAsia control the World JH Mackinder

[@djordjekostic6944]

He is not gonna save your ass anyway!

[@Yps3]

Hallo Jasmin, dieses Interview ist großartig! Du stellst die Fragen, die man sich unweigerlich stellt wenn man sich dieses politische Trauerspiel anschaut, die aber in den Systemmedien einfach nicht vorkommen, geschweige fachlich fundiert diskutiert werden. Danke an Prof. Mearsheimer.

[@serdarozbek8944]

The lady is asking stupid questions without a clue about the subject. Will never watch her interviews again. She has to do her homework before interviewing such great people.

[@LuisAlvesFerreira]

Her “agnostic” view on Israel is very close to accepting genocide as natural. Let’s say a very racional “final solution” for a land dispute between the original owners and the thieves. Certain things never change…

[@katrinweigel3796]

Yes. And what does „agnostic“ in this terms even means? It’s a lazy excuse for being ill informed.

[@k.s.421]

@@katrinweigel3796 Ja, eine unpassende und blöde Ausrede. Agnostic does not mean stupid or naive.

[@soulsmouls]

She is German after all!

[@evennot]

Hamas wants to wage a war of annihilation (still does so, and officially at that). They got the war of annihilation. Then everyone is like "that's bad!" Wow Also the word agnostic is quite fitting when you need to choose between the fundamentalist billionaires who don't count non-believers as people and fundamentalist billionaires who don't count non-believers as people

[@bashiirabdi4066]

Prof mearshimer. You are great. Thanks

[@joyaflabk2265]

How could Mr. Mearsheimer accept an interview with such low-level beings!!

[@robbybaggio4007]

This lady: I just want the fighting to stop, so let's give Israel what it wants and help it ethnically cleanse the Palestinians from their land by asking the arab states to take in the Palestinians. She most likely has no idea that there are millions of Palestinian refugees already living in many arab states.

[@miloszforman6270]

That's nonsense. Most probably less than one million. Arab population of Israel was not that numerous in 1947.

[@robbybaggio4007]

@ just Jordan has over 2 million. The numbers don’t stay stagnant. A few hundred thousands become millions over a 70 year period.

[@michaelcurran9830]

What i found horrifying about the "final solution " was not the numbers murdered . But the fact that it was carried out in such a "matter of fact " manner ,by a civilised nation . Listening to this intelligent lady , who can be agnostic about a similar situation happening in Gaza , obviously her brain works differently to mine. " Her point being "As the palestinians can't win they should pack up and go and if they won't they must accept their faith . Unlike the Israelis ,most of show have duel nationalities ,the palestinians have nowhere else to go

[@grpdv]

You claim that Israel pursues a policy of "the final solution" towards the Palestinians. How exactly are they doing it? Do they build extermination camps to deliberately murder all of them?

[@монак-с2з]

I could listen to prof. Mearsheimer for hours!

[@zetristan4525]

He's in the catbird seat

[@alanfraser4897]

Same

[@AstraGem-u5q]

if you're simple boy you can listen to his bs

[@AstraGem-u5q]

@@zetristan4525 he is more like a dumb bird

[@zetristan4525]

@@AstraGem-u5q 'That's just not a serious argument'

[@msa-uk]

She prioritizes her comfort above justice, unfortunately a common trend in the West.

[@87BlackJacket]

I am still shocked with this complete and total blindness the Germans have about Gaza and Palestine. It shows a total egocentrism about projecting their historical guilty on contemporaneous reality.

[@LAV9743C]

I'm German and this silly girl certainly does not represent me

[@radwanabu-issa4350]

John Mearsheimer is taking a moral position and not a political one! John Mearsheimer has skillfully cornered Jasmin Kosubek, and hopefully, this will help her see the reality more clearly.

[@IanDocker-rf7cw]

Yes, to him, and any logical thinking person, morality is just that, regardless of race, colour, creed, or social status. This thinking, this superior mindset that somehow immoral actions become less so depending on which side you are on, is immoral in itself.

[@RedXlV]

There's nothing moral about Mearsheimer, which his support for Russia's imperialism and genocide against Ukraine.

[@wojciech-nq5gq]

It's not moral position . It just an honest academic pragmatism .He is a pro American , pragmatic thinker who wants the preservation of American dominance because he understands that Americans enjoy particular life style only thanks to control of capital markets and return on investments. Losing that means a collapse of American society as we know it.

[@emilialauer7724]

​@@RedXlV when Ukraine turned into Anti-Russia and all Russian soeaking (half of Ukraine population if not more) were in fear of their life. Ukraine (with puch of USA) had started an internal military action against russian-speaking Eastern regions in 2014. That in turn forsed Russia to "annex" Crimea, and do not forget that vast majority of Crimea population clearly expressed their desire to be a part of Russia in 1990's, and in 2014. The people wo lived in Crimea for generations cosider the Crimean land sacred because it was soaked with Russian blood. There always lived people of differen ethnic background - Greek, tatars, Russians and many others.

[@RedXlV]

@@emilialauer7724 Literally *none* of that is true. There never was any military action against Russian-speakers, and the majority of Ukraine's population is anti-Russian because of Russia's actions against Ukraine.

[@ift7628]

The lady needs either to stay quiet or educate herself on the Palestinian conflict, she sounds like a 15 year old ignorant teenager. Johs as always is very balanced in his assesment

[@ИгорьШаматрин]

Yeees!

[@smartlady3892]

1. Former Roman Empire capturer Adrian invaded into Jewish land and tried to rename it into palestine, into so called palestine a country that never existed, in retaliation against Jewish people for resistance to occupation. 2. In 1946 Jordan got created for them already but on 70 % Jewish land. 3. In 1948 Israel, with thousand years history, got re-established following WW2, after being captured by foreins invadors former various former Empires who oppressed and discriminated against Jewish people. 4. Terminology "palestinans" got created in 1964 by KGB from former USSR and its agent, arafat from Egypt for those who invaded Jewish land from nearby countries. 5. In 2005 Israel gave up on Gaza territories and forcebly removed all Jewish people from thier homes in Gaza in exchange for territories from promised peace. But those who live in gaza voted and choise ham as and its idiology, built millitary zone with tunnels under hospitals, houses and schools despite of getting humanitarian help and trillions with intent to live peracfully with its neighbors violated cease fire numerous times. 6. How Israel should reasonable respond to terror attacks, took hostages and bombarding on ongoing basis by those who commited, welcomed and supported 10/7/23 Saturday during Jewish holidays and promissed to contunue the same again and again? 7. Facts are important. Peace to all.

[@dulsen2011]

"Give up your home for peace ” smh 😮

[@mustaphamabrouki3872]

شكرا للدكتور المحترم، شرحه ممتاز للقضية الفلسطينية وملم بها، عكس السيدة التي تحاول فرض أكاذيب على أنها حقيقة مسلم بها، لن يكون هنا استسلام للمقاومة. WE WILL LIVE FREE OR DIE TRYING, FREE PALESTINE ✌️

[@taozheng4772]

She really does not know what’s going on in Palestine. There’s no point debating such a person.

[@ibracadabra78327]

She says she doesn’t know about the conflict. But she knows it’s not to be called a genocide and Palestinians should give up their land. What a disgusting hypocrite just like 99% av all westerners

[@paulsansonetti7410]

Making them look incredibly Stoopid has great rhetorical value

[@GTA5Player1]

Most viewers won't know much about the topic, so it's actually the PERFECT opportunity to explain your view.

[@GregorClegane402]

Nah she's just following the mass media arguments.

[@liuj88]

"There’s no point debating such a person." Yes, there is. People are watching and learning.

[@kashifhaq9993]

Thank you for teaching Jasmine a lesson. She was acting naively while she knows it all.

[@indridi]

The interview was good until Jasmin became a pubescent teenager when it came to the Gaza genocide. I found that incredibly exhausting to watch. Initially, her professionalism was excellent, also the good English was remarkable. But then the hysterical little girl came out on the genocide issue. With such an outspoken expert in the interview, it was very embarrassing. Why can’t Germans accept the fact that Israel is committing a genocide? Is it so hard to face the facts?

[@Anemoia100]

💯💯

[@ha98372]

@@indridi It is rather simple because it’s not Genocide. It won’t become Genocide when a so called „outspoken expert“ says so. I respect Prof Mearsheimer but I don’t agree with him on this. Check back History to Hitler - Pol Pot and Idi Amin, if you need some examples for Genocide. What’s happening in Gaza is war with collateral damage. The truth may be hard on you but it won’t change therefore.

[@peterallegrini6624]

​@@Anemoia100 The Interview was good until Mearsheimer changed form a scientist to an activist.

[@beatxassassin6439]

Ask yourself why they can't accept the fact about genocide?

[@vitorcunha5249]

Wow This man has a LOT of pacience.

[@toatatoa]

1:23:02 "But these things happen all the time in history" - So, she is basically saying, when the Germans attacked Poland in their grab for German Lebensraum in the east , the Poles and the jews should better have accepted "what IS"; they should have accepted "unfair peace" and "things that are unfair", to quote her own words. 1:20:55 Should the Russians have took up the Poles, their slavic brothers, when they got under attack by the Germans?

[@soulsmouls]

She blames the victim for ethnic cleansing, not the perpetrator because she doesn't like who is on which side. She is racist like most Germans.

[@kassratavakoli]

The later part of this interview says a lot about current state of Germans!

[@hugothales4902]

A good interview turned into a large confusion at the end. Appreciate John's clear views.

[@mvs9122]

Palestinians cannot have a better life outside of greater isreal. There is no where for them to go. As a german, she can't see that.

[@Jean-rg4sp]

John sometimes gets things wrong. For example, 7:57 he keeps pushing the falsehood that China is a threat to the United States rather than the other way 'round. Secondly, he maintains that one of the principal reasons the Kiev regime is losing is that it does not have sufficient armaments 10:15 whereas their biggest problem is that they are running out of men.

[@nadiiiine89]

@@Jean-rg4sphe says it’s the biggest threat but he’s talking economically and size, which is accurate

[@Jean-rg4sp]

@@nadiiiine89 You are mistaken. Mearsheimer is not an economist. Jeffrey Sachs is an economist and he disagrees with Mearsheimer about China being a threat to the United States. Did you miss what Mearsheimer said about China being the most dangerous for nuclear war with the United States at 40:04 and this is not talking about economics. Then at 43:55 he says "It's very easy to imagine a war breaking out between the United States and China in the South China Sea." Again, this is war not economics. Keep listening to him in this section.

[@nukiolbartes6279]

you can replace "agnostic" with "ignorant" or "letting myself be brainwashed by one side"

[@rayanfermann3078]

Agnostic, what a hell is the host doing here in this point! The guest is a very intelligent, and she takes an umbrella of “agnostic and I don’t know history “.

[@garethbatchelor3305]

That's cop out she either wasn't prepared for this discussion topic... rather she should of said my understanding at this moment...

[@reebud]

"agnostic" is such nice word to describe ignorances; the absent of the care for, and the absent of the honest effort to dig the facts and to really know the reality of it, and then to follow up by taking proper stance upon the matter for the sake of higher morals and humanity.

[@mansatradingchannel]

@jasmine I am a layman and let me ask a simple question: if your water is controlled, if your movement is controlled, if your house is searched whenever, if you are asked to strip at checkpoints each day, if you are shot if you dont listen - would that class this as an open prison? I am extremely neutral when it comes to all this war. My view of life is love and peace for everyone. Irrespective of their color, race, ethnicity, language, views etc.

[@karencloskey7147]

John is a top of the line professor. He really explains things well.

[@panamerica5649]

Amazing conversation. Thanks a lot to Jasmin for inviting him. You are a great host and speaks perfect English. I feel really sorry for you (Jasmin) for not being able to critize the criminal regime running Israel. Sad cancel culture in Germany!!! Bitte, unbedingt übersetzen lassen. Wir brauchen das auf Deutsch...

[@user-rh5jp2sh4s]

Es gibt die Möglichkeit von automatische Untertitel... auch auf Deutsch

[@henkzwaneveld164]

In South Africa 🇿🇦 it would have been a fight forever, De Klerk understood this very well. That’s the reason for the transition to the status quo of today.

[@StGeorge257]

Unsubscribed, Palestinians can just move out?

[@yearling1]

Thank you for this great podcast, Jasmin! You are a fantastic interviewer because you have a good balance between allowing the guest to speak and providing them with some level of pushback. I hope to see more English language content from you, and I hope you'd bring professor Mearsheimer again at some point. I want you to know that I very much appreciate you giving a voice for professor Mearsheimer, especially on the issue of the ongoing genocide perpetrated by Israel. I understand you don't share the professor's opinion on the topic, and I also understand as German this topic is sensitive to you, but that makes what you're doing here not just an act of journalism but also an act of true bravery.

[@JasminKosubekOriginal]

thank you very much! 😀

[@Жжоиоллдддд]

@@JasminKosubekOriginal study about Palestine, fool

[@malaikamckee-culpepper261]

Hey fellow human being. That was really a compassionate statement that took into consideration her potential psychological state during the interview. Thank you for providing that insight for what may have been motivating her particular line of questioning and the assertions that to many smacked of willful ignorance or even arrogance. I am humbled by your example of internet civility. Thank you.

[@andrice42]

The tense conversation around Israel/Gaza situation near the end was great to see. It was cathartic and needed to be asked. We need more honest and difficult conversations around this topic. I appreciate what you're trying to say too, Jasmin. We'd all like a resolution to it. Please have on more people like Mearsheimer. Yes it's dark and largely disappointing knowing how terrible things are projected to play out. However, if we have more people like this that can communicate an effective analysis of the situation we can maybe hope that others can come along and start contributing towards a social synthesis that can resolve all these troubling concerns. I think we need leaders we don't currently have. Thank you for this great discussion.

[@salzpfeffer772]

No way! What a pleasure to have the professor here with us! Thank you Jasmin

[@IanDocker-rf7cw]

In the end the interviewer threw out both logic and empathy..."why don't they" - emphasising that the Palestinians should simpy shut up shop and leave despite centuries of connection to the land. And in the context of how other ethic groups & nationalities historically have endeavoured to push back when being disposed, why must the Palestinians be different or an exception? Could you imagine telling an American or Englishman something like that if someone encroached on their property? Also, as the Professor righty said, you need to think empathically. How would you feel if you were in the same situation as the Palestinians? Lastly, the interviewer, ignorantly or arrogantly, or both, generalises, suggesting that Palestinians in essence are Arabs just like all the other people in the middle east are all Arabs Imagine thinking this way about ALL the people in Europe? Imagine thinking this way about ALL the people in Asia? Imagine thinking this way about ALL the people in the America's?

[@dudaboj1519]

Liebe Frau Kosubek, für mich war es unerträglich, Ihren Fragen und Bemerkungen zu Gaza/Israel zuzuhören. Es fehlte u.A. am Grundwissen zur Geschichte und Politik dieser Region.

[@christianscheuermann5440]

Well done!

[@JasminKosubekOriginal]

Thanks alot :)

[@CA-or6ge]

​@@JasminKosubekOriginal You're an ignorant racist. Read some books.

[@Midorimatt-v8k]

I could see john visibly confused as she was having a moral quandary on the Palestinian issue, "the beaches are nice, so why are they complaining ? "

[@solid1378]

Confused? He was shocked, aghast & angry. He controlled his emotions very well. He's quite amazing...👏

[@s.christopher1236]

Klasse Frau Kosibek. Vielen Dank für diesen wunderbaren Gast. Einfach Danke

[@The_Voice_of_Reason_is_here]

"If I don't steal it then someone else will" - Yakob the settler from NY

[@tyrantonion6660]

Always a pleasure to listen to Prof. Mearsheimer. This is a welcome change from the provincial German mainstream media.

[@atcamci]

Mearsheimer was beyond patient against the ignorance he had to endure there. That's a truly incredible skill.

[@TheSurendrasharma]

What a crass view on being agnostic and expecting Palestinians to give up their fight! Also, in "other players" if you count other countries of the world, most of the world overwhelmingly supports Palestinian state and oppose Israeli Settlements. Its like asking and pleading a bully to stop bullying and then in the end asking the bullied to just leave because bully is not ready to stop. Further, such a position would never have been acceptable as being "agnostic" if it was a developed western nation in place of Palestine under occupation and genocide.otherwise your video is good. Its always good to hear Prof. Mearsheimer.

[@AbuMiqdamAlAfriki]

A thief will never become an owner even if the whole world supports the thief.

[@Linn-1269]

👏👏👏👍I totally agree as a German!

[@ajibolak9022]

I love this man.... Full of knowledge and humble.