Professional Cheaters: A History

[@imtoospartan1134]

Talks about dream cheating and doesn’t get dislike bombed. That’s how you know only intellectuals watch the Spiffingbrit

[@Alexander-te2gt]

Spiff just countered it with negative dislikes

[@dgnx1888]

Just wait until they figured out

[@derptyderp5287]

"That’s how you know only intellectuals watch..." I'll let myself out then...

[@sandychen1381]

Hi

[@SIRJACOBSTINE]

Don't worry, they will be here soon. they are like the sand people. they are easily scared, but they will be back, and in greater numbers.

[@legate6680]

I don't cheat, I just inject Yorkshire Tea into my computer and I automatically win.

[@keatonwastaken]

Using Yorkshire Tea as the liquid cooling is a very secret strategy.

[@TheChillerCow]

Nah that isn't efficient as you need to replace it afterwards instead inject it into you blood stream and you can embrace the queen's ultimate power

[@f1shyspace]

@@TheChillerCow irl cheat code to become immortal

[@thelonesculler]

Spiffing Brit/Linus Tech Tips crossover?

[@fantasypvp]

@@thelonesculler we need this. linus dropping things is a perfectly balanced game with no exploits

[@Blaahb]

Imagine using mods to make the hardest part of a speed-run, that you’ve done successfully hundreds of times, extremely easy…. and then only getting 5th.

[@nebei3740]

Well its not the hardest part at all its just rng and its actually possible to get the drop rates he had but he messed up and had those good drop rates way to consistently therefore making it statistically impossible from his actual speed run alone its impossible to say if he cheated but he messed up by streaming or uploading (dont remember) multiple attempts

[@crocsarethepurestformofwea3122]

@@nebei3740 POV: Dream stan trying to say Dream didn't cheat

[@eaglestrike6408]

@@crocsarethepurestformofwea3122 to be fair, I don't particularly think he did chest on purpose. I mean you go through the effort to hiring someone to do math, defend yourself vigorously in the public, lash out at others and also make multiple videos denying such cheating. That's not really something actual cheaters do. I mean, I've seen them. Cheaters tend to just shut up and let it go under the rug. This is the internet, people tend to forget shit after a week.

[@crocsarethepurestformofwea3122]

@@eaglestrike6408 POV: Another Dream stan defending Dream cheating

[@eaglestrike6408]

@@crocsarethepurestformofwea3122 personally, I think attacking me as a person is a poor rebuttal. I also don't watch Dream anyway so, it doesn't apply to me. Should watch Karl Jobst's video on it, it is quite fascinating.

[@Sephiroth5200]

I've always had a rule. Beat the game legitimately first. After that, it's a wonderful sandbox full of cheats and exploits in the name of continuing replayability that I bend to whatever diabolical whims I desire.😈

[@larryjohnson3087]

The rule is single player do what ever makes you happy. Once you join multiple don’t cheat just be bad like everyone else!

[@DannyMexen9]

Just like real life... Wait, what?

[@mathiastheapprentice]

Nothing embodies this like GTA online. Got everything on PS4 legit, switched to xbox one and have glitched tens of millions and am still going.

[@Sephiroth5200]

@@larryjohnson3087 Absolutely. I love rpg's and racing games. Fair is the name of the game in multiplayer for both. I can't say everyone is just as honorable though.

[@pixelated_jefe]

I still use that rule for my games today. Beat them first. Dump shiiii tons of mods and cheats after 😎

[@MrGaiakid]

Riot: "lets make it super easy for pro players to cheat in front of a live audience" Also Riot: "Whaaaaa? They cheated? How dare they! Lets punish them and not fix how they were able to cheat" I feel like they did that on purpose to troll people

[@Dream0Asylum]

Let's put the jumbo-tron where it faces one team only, and then blame them for looking at it. What do you mean; "We're the idiots.?"

[@darthsidious6380]

They probably did that so they could remove winnings from the game when they want.

[@Xenomorphin1]

Why the fuck don't they switch the giant ass screen around, so the opponent is looking at their own screen when they glance up? Having to turn and look up behind you is a way more of a cheater move, and is more noticeable than just lifting your eyes to see everything

[@GuitarListen]

@@Xenomorphin1 bro this incident is 10+ years old. chill out

[@Xenomorphin1]

@@GuitarListen so? Who cares if it's 10 years old if a random person on the internet can solve it by not even thinking about it? Also duck off with your "chill out"

[@PopeMical]

"League is a game for very salty people to enjoy" Sorry Spiff I need to stop you right there. I don't normally correct you on things but I can definitely say that no one enjoys playing league, we are all just addicted instead.

[@pinkyuri5]

ppl actually do enjoy it. it's ranked that salty people enjoy.

[@silentbyte196]

@@pinkyuri5 No

[@dapper_cobra8319]

i hate how correct you are

[@joshwist556]

@@pinkyuri5 No, even Casual and unranked is reeking with sweat, salt, and rage for the smallest shit.

[@mathew4485]

incorrect i am very salty and i play league

[@simracingsemantics9821]

Standupmaths did a video on the odds of it being legit and (im paraphrasing) "if every single human played minecraft every single second of every single day for the entire history of humanity, it would happen exactly once"

[@schwingedeshaehers]

I recommend the video from Karl Jobst

[@balexbalex815]

Oh god lads get ready for the bombardment of rage from Dream stans the second they find out someone said Dream cheated

[@Justacidity]

@@balexbalex815 Nah they know he cheated cause he came out a bit ago and said that there was a mod that could've changed the rates slightly but they are now defending his actions. Look I like his Manhunts and stuff. They are entertaining but if he cheated then he cheated

[@chief5002]

@@Justacidity personally I don’t think he intentionally cheated like he said but he also tried to cover it up and acted like a tool which makes him a loser

[@knowbounds]

No he said it's still magnitudes off (3 magnitudes off)

[@thatrandomguy8988]

"Let's say you've millions of adoring child fans who believe you're the greatest Minecraft player ever" Oh damn, starting with him right off the bat. I wanna see how the Brits vs 12 year olds will go on

[@okboomerbutitsacat8050]

Except no 12 year olds will find this video, or atleast I haven't seen any

[@ezrastewart543]

@@okboomerbutitsacat8050 me being 13:

[@sillydave5544]

@@ezrastewart543 Why it just simply means you have the brain power of a wise man!

[@math3000]

Well, looks like child labor is back on the menu boys

[@ezrastewart543]

@@math3000 how do we eat child labor?

[@jordanjamesstavrakis1683]

I remember when the whole Dream cheating scandal was going down. So many videos from different people doing the maths and showing just how ridiculous the odds were for the drop rates he had (Something like 1 in 7.5 trillion). For weeks he was just denying it, even released his own video trying to "debunk" the original claim he was cheating. It was a time to be sure

[@ChiknPog]

Still don't know how people actually supported him during that

[@thatrandonamedrandy]

Oh, that debunking video. Apparently the document had numerous errors, that even r/statistics basically tore it to the ground in ways that I could only laugh. That video is no longer available, but the aftermath of people basically stating the errors that were present made my day because I don't expect this stuff to reach this far. Dream did eventually confess to the cheating, saying it was an accident. I don't know if I believe him, because I know nothing about what he is talking about with client-side and server-side mods, and his wording continues to impress me with how he confuses even my dumb ass. That being said, feel free to decide whether you believe it or not. I personally don't care about the situation as much as his fans did, but more power to them, I guess.

[@sword_racer185]

@@thatrandonamedrandy it's impossible for anything to run without him giving it the ok, and even if it was an accident it's still his responsibility to make sure no mods or anything that could tamper with the run are disabled beforehand

[@thatrandonamedrandy]

@@sword_racer185 Yes, when you are partaking in competition, it is YOUR responsibility to make sure that you are running the vanilla game without any potential mods that could increase luck, but as I said, the apology was weirdly confusing of a read for me. Again, it's because I am stupid and don't understand Minecraft modding enough to say for certain on the idea that it was an accident. I'm sticking with the neutral, still. Even if it was an accident, it won't change my thoughts, though, because in competition, as you said, you always want to ensure that your game's not been modded to give yourself the advantage. Fact of the matter is, Dream had every opportunity to check his mods folder even BEFORE the streams occured, so the fact that he didn't bother to check is confusing, but then again, I guess reflexes can also be attributed to this, where he automatically assumed that the mod wasn't active or installed. I don't know, I might be busting my own 2 brain cells apart from this. TLDR; yea, I agree with you, but I am still confused because of my low understanding of most of this.

[@sword_racer185]

@@thatrandonamedrandy essentially when you boot up minecraft your taken to a launcher and you can select which version you want to play, modded versions will always come up as forge or fabric as you need either forge or fabric to run mods on minecraft. ive read his apology and watched his video. all i have to say is that dream is full of BS. im not hating to hate either, i gave dream a fair shake for a long time but when he rolled out his apology statement and how it was an accident it instantly screamed lies, the way dream is saying it is the same as alec baldwin saying that the gun fired on its own

[@gellasztomania1643]

"This is why we never cheat in multiplayer game" Tell that to the Payday 2 playerbase

[@Kalmaggedon]

Well Payday 2 is not PvP so we dont realy care about it. Let them destroy there games as much as they want.

[@hashhashbrowns5381]

I remember doing the / glitch in siege

[@toko099o]

Its an online fps game that is coming up on being 8 years old. I would be shocked if the people in it didn't cheat constantly. Although I find the word cheat kinda stretching what people are doing.

[@gellasztomania1643]

@@Kalmaggedon If they kept it in their own lobbies, that would be fine. The problem is, you seldom can join a cheater-free public lobby these days. This may not be a PvP game, but it's still a co-op game. If one can carry like half of Fort Knox on their shoulders while running across the map with infinite HP while spawning in minigun turrets just to fuck your shit up, that ain't fair.

[@gellasztomania1643]

@@toko099o Fair point. It is not the fact that there are cheaters in an online game that grinds my gears, it's how prevalent they are. Barely anyone plays loud missions on the highest difficulty nowadays, and most lobbies have some form of cheating (edited stats and/or achievements, cheat mods, trainers and paid third-party software). Really sours the experience.

[@rolandholmdahl797]

I just love how you say super casually and plainly that Dream cheated like a total Giga Chad. And that is another reason why I subscribed.

[@Zenoferrum]

@@chaoslordnicky9723 dream also said himself that he cheated and told people that they should "get over it"

[@rawn9234]

little Beta lured

[@zaferoph]

@@Zenoferrum they never do. Nobody does on either end of it.

[@whyiwakeup6460]

@@Zenoferrum yeah, I remember going back to a lot of the videos covering the situation like 3 months after it they were made, and have been somewhat defending him since. He did cheat, but he didn’t notice because for all/most of his manhunts and such use the modified drops. People wanted to pounce on him immediately after he did it (for good reason) but didn’t actually listen to what he had to say until he gave more of the truth. He was dealt a bad hand and he should have been trusted a bit more

[@Zenoferrum]

@@whyiwakeup6460 no he shouldn't faking his manhunt drops is fine, using those same drop rate mods in official runs, claiming it to be legitimate for months and allowing his toxic fanbase to defend him by any means only to say he did actually cheat and brush it off as nothing is not only completely disrespectful to the speedrunning mod team and their time (which went through serious drama due to alot of them knowing dream) but also to other speedrunners who get faster times than him without needing mods. Dream deserves to be banned and isn't for the sole reason of his amount of clout and his fanbase who isn't shy of sending death threats and doxxing people. Anyone else who tried doing what he did would've been banned on the spot otherwise.

[@Strohkopfs]

Spiff: We cant use exploits in MMO's. Also Spiff: Exploits KZbin multiple times for real money^^

[@stevedasbru]

Not to mention that he actually exploited FFXIV

[@thesandwich5321]

Creative use of game mechanics.

[@aleksandarharalanov]

@Jonas Thomi who asked you?

[@aleksandarharalanov]

@@stevedasbru and you?

[@mokarokas-1727]

@@aleksandarharalanov - lol, who asked YOU?

[@archiealanwelsh]

There was an “exploit” story on a Russian competitive Dota2 scene. In 2013, during one of the tournaments, a player by the nickname “Solo” bet 100$ against his team and did everything he could to make his team lose. And so they did. He basically thought that that game didn’t mean anything in terms of their points, so he took an opportunity to make some cash. However his deed was found out and he was banned for life from all Valve tournaments. This whole situation spawned a meme “322”, because he won 322$ from his bet.

[@rocketf20]

He wasn’t banned for life by Valve, he was banned from Starladder for a period. He is still a pro player

[@ZorotheGallade]

People going the length to get esports recognized as actual sports and then think fixing bets isn't a big deal

[@100Peterll]

Ah yes, this reminds me of professional players casually "charging their phones" on tournaments which is also a clear sign that they are definitely not cheating...

[@colby1398]

Right? It's like these esport organizations don't understand that plugging your phone into the computer means you can run code stored on the phone lol

[@TracinyaLachance]

Why are esport organizers THIS stupid? If I even had my phone on me at an exam at Uni, I'd be immediately disqualified. It's like cheating 101.

[@thatrandonamedrandy]

Alright, you peaked my interest, please explain this.

[@nachoferrari240]

@@thatrandonamedrandy I want to know too

[@LethalMonarch]

@@thatrandonamedrandy my best guess is they connect their phone to their computer in order to charge it, but their phone has a program on it that injects cheats into the game

[@greenmind3488]

With the dream thing: its also important to note that dream was claiming that his mods somehow stayed on, even after switching off of the modded profile. He claimed the mods somehow had edited the base game files... Impossible on so many levels to the point its painful. Yet people still accepted it as a legitimate reason. The chances of that are lower than him legitimately getting those droprates.

[@WildBluntHickok]

Actually turning off the modded profile wouldn't help because you don't need mods to change the drop rate. Just a zip file with text files in it in your world's datapack folder. You remove the file to turn it off, not restart the game with a non-modded version of minecraft. Changing loot tables has been a vanilla feature since 1.9 (2015). Dream just doesn't understand what mods are. He thought vanilla customization options were mods.

[@greenmind3488]

@@WildBluntHickok Still, datapacks have to be added to that specific world's files, you cant make a new world and it just shows up, which is what he claimed. Still not possible, and he failed trying to lie his way out of it

[@qoque2737]

From his behavior, he's most likely acting in a way to save as much fans as possible from unsubbing to his channel, he knows how people think and act, especially younger peeps. I recall that he "bragged" or stated that he knew that he was gonna be famous, so yeah he probably purposely cheated.

[@jerryteel5682]

You realise he probobly has thrown out 100s of runs because he wasnt lucky enough.

[@NoPlanHan]

@@jerryteel5682 every speedrunner resets hundreds of times due to RNG. Weird how none have ever before or since seen the luck that Dream got.

[@TOSkwar22]

Man, there's so much more history of cheaters you could go into, all the way back to arcade gaming days.

[@callmeriggy]

I don't think he wants to get sued by Billy Mitchell.

[@TOSkwar22]

@@callmeriggy True, have to worry about whiny little losers who lied and cheated coming to sue you if you want to talk about the real facts of what happened.

[@BizarePlayer]

Billy Mitchell and Todd Rogers are legendary cheaters at this point. How long they have tried to deny it, 30+ years?

[@losingluke]

cheating is ok in a singleplayer setting or in a game that is incredibly unfair and requires microtransactions to have fun

[@SuperSlick1996]

I feel bad cheating in Skyrim until I get soft locked..you know how it be

[@LegoLordPro]

Any EA game deserves to be exploited to be honest.

[@corradoalamanni179]

In the last is also gine to sail the high seas

[@Godviahh]

cheating is okay IN GENERAL in singleplayer games. its singleplayer, it doesnt matter

[@papercamera2989]

@@LegoLordPro As in games the publish or games they develop?

[@tbxvividos]

*talks about Dream for 4 and a half minutes 4:34 "lets talk about actual professionals instead" LOL sick burn XD

[@ExplosiveCherry]

Have you considered that they just had RGB lights in the corners of their rooms

[@sandychen1381]

No

[@EEEEEEEE]

‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎E‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎

[@jan-lukas]

THEY JUST HAVE AN RGB GAMING CHAIR FINALLY I KNOW HOW TO BE GOOD AT GAMES

[@thatrandonamedrandy]

Why hello there, would you care to see my RGB lighting? I spent three thousand dollars. Ok, don't ask why I said that, I felt like saying it for fun.

[@jsparrow115]

I hate Blizzard because of their mod policy. Basically when you mod a Blizzard game, they own all your ideas and are free to steal them. (I think they're mad they don't own DOTA.)

[@DarkAuraLord]

Blizzard is a joke, I don't touch anything associated with their name.

[@colby1398]

They're big mad that they don't own DOTA. They even tried to make their own that flopped.

[@teedeegremlin]

It really be a Valve moment

[@sanctionh2993]

Ultima Online did this. Many ideas from private servers made their way to the main game. And frankly, it's their IP, why shouldn't they own any work done with it? It's theirs, it isn't open source.

[@burp2019]

@@sanctionh2993 that's like saying nintendo should own a game just because it has a nintendo character in it, doesn't make sense

[@LTBLACKCOAT]

I find it hilarius that "screen looking" (Or "screen cheating") became an actual thing in competitive sport.

[@toxic_shr00m]

Whom tf calls it "screen looking"?

[@ferrucyon9149]

Who tf says “whom”

[@toxic_shr00m]

@@ferrucyon9149 People that use the English language properly

[@airenlee7084]

@@toxic_shr00m "whom the fuck" doesnt even make sense LMAO

[@Bubbly_Dragon]

@@toxic_shr00m Imagine trying to dunk on someone for proper grammar and not even knowing how to use whom lmao

[@antonioloma2327]

11:18 Spiffing Brit exploiting the Roman Numbers (XIV -> eleven).

[@tylerbrown9631]

All a clever ploy to get extra comments, of course! That spiffing Brit has exploited us all!

[@belisarius6949]

FF11 was right. FF11 would later turn to FF14 after they decide to kill the world and start from scratch.

[@jianzen]

@@belisarius6949 Not quite. FFXI and FFXIV are entirely separate games. FFXIV did go through an entire shutdown and relaunch as ‘A Realm Reborn’, but that is entirely separate to FFXI.

[@Kokuyous3ki]

Main point is, he has shown the FFXIV logo so yea...

[@HurrpyDurrDerp]

You're gonna put Internet Historian out of work Spiff!

[@magustrigger9195]

Thats a bold claim IH has like 7 channels and is much spicer. Spiff is a nice cup of tea but IH is a hot hot plate of curry

[@girrrrrrr2]

He did that himself.

[@VRDejaVu]

considering he used the exact same footage that Historian used for the LoL cheaters... yes, probably XD

[@kouron]

not in 15 minutes

[@ickaruus4909]

Not even close. The editing is like a hundredth of what internet historian does

[@mastercrazyyyd7699]

The only time I've ever "cheat" in a game is when playing a single player game just to try out some crazy stuff or a game in private lobbies with friends just to dick around with each other for the heck of it

[@yourmothergaming9248]

The best cheaters

[@theant2266]

Gmod and Minecraft are the best examples of this imo

[@merijnfluitman5761]

What about Daniel Abt? The professional race driver who hired a professional sim racer when Formula E resorted to e-racing during the first lockdown. He got caught and lost his job racing for Audi.

[@colby1398]

Ah yes, because people in separate cars were such a danger to each other lmao.

[@the_algorithm]

@@colby1398 I get the sarcasm, but pit crews and event organizers etc. etc. etc. There is a LOT behind the scenes just to get the car on the track.

[@barryemery9494]

@@colby1398 ahh yes because the only one who maters is the driver

[@freedustin]

@@barryemery9494 nah the only one who maters is me...Tow Mater!

[@kevinduliesco5468]

Ooh that's hard,sheesh btw 101 like

[@samnesbitt9735]

This didn't even touch the players who took a pay check to throw a match.

[@elmo7608]

ibuypower in 2014

[@vandeus7374]

iBUYPOWER TIME BOYS KATOWICE 2014

[@lylmeep4910]

322

[@DryVice]

I have to admit, when I saw the title, I was expecting you to touch on Runescape's 'Falador Massacre' from '06. Great video as always!

[@Midori-Ge]

"What does this cheat us?" That's an interesting, but not surprising slip, man.

[@tianamaycry]

Truth. lol

[@Foreststrike]

Teaching is an anagram for cheating. Amazing, isn't it?

[@tacticalwookiee7476]

Damn Clara is a world traveler! Going around delivering hacks like Santa.

[@EEEEEEEE]

‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎E‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎

[@keegan1948]

Imagine having your cool little house from Ultima stolen from you just to turn around and see the guy who took your land create a full-time business meant to help gaming companies prevent cheaters from doing exactly what he did all with the money stolen from you without any repercussions at all

[@samuelthecamel]

I'm suprised you didn't mention Todd Rodgers. I guess it's for the best though, because he seems to sue everyone who critizises him.

[@varogoth]

Or billy mitchell

[@heartbeat4atinman]

I find it amusing that he managed to get away with claiming a time on Atari Dragster that was so good, it can't even be reached with a TAS. You'd think he'd at least try to be a little subtle.

[@Vykk_Draygo]

@@heartbeat4atinman Your comment makes no sense in historical context. The real issue has nothing to do with TAS (which wasn't a thing then), but that it is a literal impossibility CODE-wise. The time he claimed wasn't outrageous in that it was extraordinarily faster than the actual record, hence why he wasn't the only one who claimed this time, and why it went uncontested for so long. The man is as subtle as a brick, but more in regard to his stories about obtaining the record (they made no sense).

[@TheTrueArkher]

@@Vykk_Draygo it was brought up because the time he got is literally impossible. This applies to several of his records.

[@FrenchLightningJohn]

@@Vykk_Draygo dude was not subtle at all, look at lot of his fake record even for points record, game that increase in increment of five has 2 or 3 points at the end, some that increase in increment of 50 has a 30 at the end or something like that, if you want to be subtle you do not make that kind of very obvious mistake, only reason he got away is because himand billy who were both moderator of the website helped each other in their cheating

[@justinbuddy56]

Still find it funny that Dream refused to hand the speedrun board mods his mod folder for weeks, until he deleted everything that proved he cheated out of it. Also his fans sent people death threats for believing he cheated, but immediately switched to “oh we all make mistakes, it’s not his fault” as soon as he confirmed he cheated. Edit made a mistake: Dream didn’t hand over his mod folder, but if I remember correctly he made his “mod folder” open to the public in his apology video. This “mod folder” I believe had things removed, but I’m not entirely sure.

[@pzyqux6641]

Dream does not seem to understand what a stan is, since he is positive to people being way too obsessed with him. Slight correction because i care about details: He did not refuse to send his mod folder and then after a few weeks send it after deleting the incriminating details, he never sent his mod folder to the mods at all because he said he had deleted it.

[@Silverlined_69]

@@pzyqux6641 ummm. The mods never asked for it when they first asked for some files. It wasn't until the mods asked again, specifically asking for the mod folder, that dream told them he deleted it

[@Laszer271]

@@pzyqux6641 That's because mods didn't want his mod folder when he offered. And even if he did send it, what would it prove? He could easily send other mod folder than the one he was using and claim that's the one.

[@pzyqux6641]

@@Silverlined_69 I know, what i said does not conflict with this.

[@pzyqux6641]

@@Laszer271 I know this, saw Karl Jobst video.

[@squalho5190]

Manfred's story is amazing, he hacked games for 20 years, and his hacks were very technically complex. If you want to know more there are 2 episodes of Darknet Diaries podcast dedicated to him, he narrates in person most of the stories. Look it up!

[@shaun138]

Was hoping for Spiff to mention Riolu who was one of the top Trackmania players in the world. Turns out he played the game in slow motion and fell from grace harder than the devil himself.

[@LenkyLad]

Each video like this puts him closer and closer to collaborating with Internet Historian.

[@strikervx4435]

But one uploads and one doesn't

[@lye1035]

You forgot the time where a league of legends team playing in the world championship modded their computers so that their maps had no fog of war. They absolutely annihilated.

[@Reveeeey]

Im loving these non-typical Spiff videos, very interesting and entertaining!

[@LegoEngineer003]

For anyone looking for a really thorough investigation on the Dream issue, Karl Jobst has a 1:15:00 video going into every aspect of it

[@pancakes4391]

Thank you, I was waiting for someone to mention it

[@andrewli8900]

This video's comment section is full of misinformation that Karl's video just outright explains or answers.

[@ZeroPC1]

Sadly the masses to this day still believe that Dream had every intention of being a shitty person. I just wish people would watch Karl's video. Man is 100% unbiased and looks at nearly every angle of the situation

[@mewmeister8650]

@@ZeroPC1 Eh, while I agree that Dream didn't set out to cheat that day, he absolutely went on to handle the incident in a dickish way, unintentional at first before going into full damage control.

[@gassug2]

@@ZeroPC1 it's funny because i think a majority watched karl's first video about it, but then ignored the second video to fit their narrative. people really let their biases take control. feels over reals, as they say

[@scarletjester7831]

"I'll never cheat again" really means "I'll (try to) never (get caught) cheat(ing) again"

[@bobbobigson9205]

Well, all of them wouldn't need to cheat, if they just drank Yorkshire Gold Tea

[@Vugtis_El_VillaVODS]

They would WANT to cheat. I mean, look at Spiff. He has built his career in circumventing the rules

[@andyzhu523]

I loved the, “I can’t show mmo exploits cuz you’ll all get banned and it’ll be my fault.” Lmao me thinking back to my solo player bannerlord experience after watching your vids

[@solgerWhyIsThereAnAtItLooksBad]

Fun fact: the fortnite cheaters hiding spot was destroyed by a giant monster soon after. It was also the only thing the monster actually destroyed

[@cxob2134]

the htop in these "hacking" stock photos gets em every time

[@toko099o]

The way I do haxxing is by having 12 monitors that spew out binary...IN GREEN.

[@urugulu1656]

particulary obvious when you are a linux user oh and not to forget tree and bmon comment written on linux btw

[@elzearcontelly2651]

Fun fact: it's not a hacking stock photo, it's the package ‘hollywood’. You can install it as well, it uses htop and a few others to look like cliche hacker stuff.

[@Theribus]

HOLY SHIT! I was actually a part of Overrated's main raiding group during WoTLK Icecrown! I played a resto druid. WTF! I had no idea that this happened!! O_O

[@bahamutbbob]

Spiff, there has always been a raid lockout in WoW. You had to wait 7 days to do a raid again. The issue was that, they skipped a bunch of challenging fights to get straight to C'thun. They literally only had to fight the first and last bosses.

[@chaoslordnicky9723]

But all the bosses drop valueable loot wouldnt that had not been as helpful to skip 8 whole mini bosses

[@Deamia]

@@chaoslordnicky9723 C'thun dropped higher ilevel loot then the rest of the raid, some of it comparable or equal to Naxx 40 ilevels. I think they did the skip when Naxx was live, and they didn't feel like clearing an entire very long raid just for loot from a single boss.

[@TakedaIesyu]

Thank you for making another one of these videos! Hope to see more in the future!!

[@doom2alien]

oh shoot i forgot to turn off the 0.5 speed from watching that other spiffing brit video about 0.5 speed

[@Nikosstamos42]

When spif calls you an idiot for hacking/exploiting a game or audience you know you have taken it too far

[@StrangelyIronic]

Spiff made me feel old by using Halo as a reference for screen looking...You're supposed to use Golden Eye so I don't have to ask myself why I'm watching a British man talking about video games whilst knocking on 30's door. Now I need to go hear Lewis make a reference that makes even me feel young.

[@demi-femme4821]

My personal favourite cheating story was from the DOOM community. In classic DOOM games, there is a challenge called the Iron Man, wherein players are made to play through what are essentially fangames made in the DOOM engine and whoever makes it the longest wins. One player was a consistent winner, regularly making it to the end of these games. However, looking at his demos (a feature in classic DOOM that records the player inputs and RNG so that they can be played back using DOOM itself), they didn't seem like the demos a DOOM god capable of clearing through entire WADs in one go would make, and some of his demos seemed like they were made by someone who had definitely played that game before. ZeroMaster, a DOOM player who has completed several challenges once thought to be wholly impossible, called the cheater out on this. The cheater's response was to accuse ZeroMaster of jealousy, actively tefuse to address any of ZeroMaster's points, and his writing style swung between Shakespeare and Twitter.

[@Reac2]

I like these essay like videos of your Spiff. You can only have so many Perfectly Balanced videos before your life becomes unbalanced, so I think one of these every now and then is very cool.

[@el_pepe_1500]

i love this kind of videos spiff, excelent work, thank you

[@koopalovetoast2409]

Oh I hope there's a second part coming some day! Great video keep up the great work!

[@deanchur]

What did the tiger say when they were accused of cheating? "I'm not a cheetah, and I ain't lion" ...I'll see myself out.

[@silkhenge]

Can you show more cheater histories like this? This was a fun watch

[@Rufio20008]

SPIFF: "Including Final Fantasy 11..." *Shows final fantasy 14* Love you man.

[@H1KE]

Would love to see more of this style please Spiff!

[@kees0313]

By far one of my favorite spiff videos on the planet - glad to have you back online so I could watch this :>

[@cridow]

"because otherwise you'd all get banned and it would be my fault"the way he said that is actually so sweet lmao spiff is looking out for us

[@orpheala]

Very interesting, would love to see you do more of this kind of content!

[@Kite403]

I'm really enjoying these minor history lessons, Spif!

[@tachyon8317]

I've been dealing with "screen hoppers" since Super Mario Kart on the SNES, and later in GoldenEye64. To paraphrase Jesus-allegory Lion - "Do not speak of the deep magic to me, wizard. I was there when it was written".

[@chloemccarthy2297]

1:09 You know, I am fully willing to believe this is truthful and not just a joke knowing how things are over the Atlantic

[@JSS31M]

Some days ago I tried yorkshire tea for the first time, it was quite good

[@tapioperala3010]

I'd love to watch a proper series on this topic. Great video!

[@seriousspikesam7770]

The last one reminds me of Runescape and Deadman mode tournaments. Clans had mules to give gear and supplies to their best players, killed all the other players and died so that only the marked players remained alive. I think they got disqualified in the end, but it was still a bad day for normal players out there. Well, that and people being randomly teleported to instakill zones.

[@garliccc3695]

Single-player game? Looks like a free opportunity to cheat.

[@AxxLAfriku]

I have fewer than 1 friend in the World. That's right. Everybody disses me for making bad videos. I think they are perfect though. Who is right? My dissers or me? Which side are you on, dear na

[@thaias9654]

@@AxxLAfriku guess you must’ve cheated in the multiplayer game called life, and the devs removed your friends list function.

[@colby1398]

@@AxxLAfriku why do you have hundreds of terrible videos on your channel?

[@TheRaptorsClaw]

This video was just barely too early for the incredible Titanfall hacker drama that's been revealed in the last couple days

[@bobmanperson599]

I like this video. It doesn't pull any punches when describing how truly unfair to any fair and competitive players these situations are. I would like more videos if you find more cheaters on a professional scale.

[@namename5336]

*We need to see a collab between Spiff and Josh from Let's game it out*

[@ianwagner4281]

Just rang that bell, this is my first time tuning into a premiere (if you can call it that). Keep up the good work, you’ve got one of those rare gaming channels that’s actually special.

[@astruh9788]

I just watched your broken KZbin video on 0.5 and jumped on this one and was confused why you sounded so slow 🤣

[@LuminouShadow]

All hail Lord Spiff of House Yorkshire tea, breaker of games, developers pain, may he forever reign.

[@yty1941]

3:23 The fact that the paper supporting Dream saying this is purely commissioned by a private individual makes it ten times better 🤣 (plus the 'scientist' asks anonymity)

[@corruptedplayer]

11:18 "including Final Fantasy eleven" *shows FF14*

[@linceaerian]

came here searching for this comment 😂

[@roftone]

@@linceaerian Glad that I wasn't the only one.

[@belisarius6949]

But FF11 IS FF14...Are you guys daft? It only became FF14 in like 2010 when Realm Reborn revamped the game.

[@roftone]

@@belisarius6949 Nope, you are mistaken. FF11 still exists and receives regular content. It did not become FF14.

[@linceaerian]

@@belisarius6949 :O Didn't know about FF11 being a MMO, hence the joke by @The Sipffing Brit, 14 being similar to 11... It was "rebranded" before 2010 thought, the original version that was reworked into "A realm reborn" was already tagged FF14

[@wakebreaker]

“LoL, a game for the saltiest beings on the planet to enjoy.” One of the most accurate descriptions of this game I’ve ever heard. XD

[@バラタァンズ]

Single Player game: *exists* Spiff: "It's free real estate"

[@alexanderthemandd569]

Let’s gooo history time with spiffing Brit! (*Relevant history time)

[@tobiasmills9647]

So, that intro got me. Well, yesterday I lost particularly badly in CSGO and took it out on my mouse. I'm gonna have to see if I can get my hand x-rayed tomorrow - I'm sure you can fill in the blanks.

[@spike35540]

I feel educated in the history of cheating. Thank you, Sir Spiff.

[@jrauch6]

I think my fav cheating moment was forsaken trying to delete his hacks live on stage during a CSGO tournament as admins are trying to check his computer

[@adrianborysionek1916]

I was wondering why this one didn't make it on the list...

[@oldmandoinghighkicksonlyin1368]

**bats away refs hand** No.

[@dairoleon2682]

I'm honestly surprised you didn't cover the EVE Online "banking" scam that a guy used to make enough both in-game and real money to buy an expensive house, car, time in college, and one of the biggest and most powerful ships in the game.

[@scottwatson5851]

I love this gentleman's video's, they are amazing

[@hunterof2846]

Hmm, maybe a sequel to this video on irl cheaters? My man Tigran "Pipi in your pampers" Petrosyan should have a spot

[@Boodikii]

15 minutes exactly? Aesthetically pleasing.

[@Ryu_D]

My family has a rule about screen watching in split screen games: It's not cheating, it's a feature. We just make it clear that everyone's allowed to do it, and have fun. Really, why worry about whether someone cheated or not when we can just declare that it's a part of the game? That way, you can't complain that they're screen watching, just that they're doing it better than you are. XP

[@Ryu_D]

@Lurch7861 Nostalgia. Also distracting the nieces and nephews when they come over. I get to be the cool uncle with all the mysterious ancient technology and games that their friends have never seen. (Or, at least that's how I like to think about it.) XP

[@scopeless22]

2:08, I wouldn't say it was like that, more like the sprint is outside and sometimes players can luck out and get really good wind to push them while dream just put a fan to blow 50mph wind at all times so he didn't have to worry trying for a lucky run.

[@Ro_Gaming]

Money Spiff Uses: £ Money Spiff Talks About: $ Money Spiff Shows: €

[@iljk]

Mmmmm the good old Star Wars Battlefron on the ps splitscreen

[@Just_Another_Gravemind]

Oof when you use a drop rate cheat and still lose to four vanilla dudes

[@kelly4187]

I love how professional mathematician Matt Parker even got involved with the Dream debacle, and utterly dismantled his claims. It was super entertaining.

[@afilthy6digit839]

OH NO HE'S ANGERED THE DREAM STANS RIGHT OFF THE BAT

[@okboomerbutitsacat8050]

Except they somehow haven't seen the video

[@Bluemoon_19]

What about riolu and trackmania? 100's of cheated times. He even submitted cheated times to nadeo for the trackmania turbo challenge campaign.

[@riko0029]

My first thought too

[@siggestaexs8745]

Or maybe you could leave him alone for one second?

[@OTheFool]

@@siggestaexs8745 Why? It's fact at this point. It's part of the trackmania community's history now, and it needs to be spoken about, so that others would know that cheaters will not prosper.

[@siggestaexs8745]

@@OTheFool Yeah, It's facts at this point. That means that you don't have to bring it up everywhere. He's a human. Stop watching Wirtual.

[@OTheFool]

@@siggestaexs8745 You saw the point, approached it, and then performed some real impressive limbo, there, friend. Earning money with your unfair advantage should be talked about and inexcusable. If Riolu comes back to streaming, I'll be glad to watch and forgive, but I will not forget. Neither should you.

[@pokeman747]

The Queen caught me cheating at a game as a child. As punishment she beheaded my hamster

[@calebburrell9920]

This NEEDS to be a series. Great job

[@22yhjjjj]

One time I was playing TF2, and more than half of the enemy team was in a group and cheating. I did manage to get a headshot kill on one of them, which I'm still proud of to this day.

[@teedeegremlin]

Man, TF2 cheaters these days feel rare when there's bots everywhere. I'm still scared at the fact that bots are turning into other classes than Sniper. Imagine if they learned to make a full perfectly-optimized team

[@MrJoeyWheeler]

@@teedeegremlin You shouldn't be, non-spy bots are incredibly ineffective compared to Sniper. Except maybe Ambi spies, but only at close range these days. Most other guns in the game are shotguns, meaning they have a wide area so the crit-hacks don't do a lot.

[@teedeegremlin]

@@MrJoeyWheeler That IS true. For now.

[@MrJpmono]

You could have made some sweet sweet jokes editing in some drawings of cheetahs every time you mentioned the word cheaters smh hahaha

[@tigrecito48]

spiffing brit is amazing and im on the dark side of the coffee

[@garygordle5146]

heresy

[@tigrecito48]

@@garygordle5146 heresy is Ovaltine im more of a heathen than a heretic

[@callmeriggy]

@@tigrecito48 Ovaltine is fucking gross.

[@easy2213]

I still remember being a scammed multiple times in many ways on Ultima Online.

[@sanctionh2993]

Never got scammed, but had a house broken into. They used some sort of elevation hack to get under the house, allowing them access to all items. GMs did nothing, saying I must of not locked down things (all the good stuff). Later they admitted the issue but no one was compensated. Btw, what server? Pacific and Siege Perilous here