Professor Brian Harvey on why not to cheat

Taken from UC Berkeley's online video archive.

[@TheXodic98]

This was so inspiring that I stopped cheating on my wife

[@dotzero3014]

Lol

[@ΒίκτωρΚιρόσκα]

bruh moment

[@Fish_152]

Fish

[@mmuhee151]

Fish that’s deep😳

[@strebicux6174]

What absolute dedication

[@giusepperesponte8077]

I’m proud to say I never cheated a single time throughout school. I failed most of my classes and dropped out but that’s beside the point.

[@NotShanks.]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@CRUUGG]

A true king

[@theozuretti6091]

Who asked tho

[@Barbspongebob]

@@theozuretti6091 would you shut up?

[@wawa9468]

Shoulda cheated

[@aisparrow9734]

see you all in five years when it’s recommended to us all again.

[@Icouldntthinkofanamelol]

See you soon bro

[@NotEvenSquidward]

This is the third time Ive seen you today

[@Icouldntthinkofanamelol]

Not Squidward me?

[@Icouldntthinkofanamelol]

Not Squidward or Barney?

[@aisparrow9734]

Not Squidward fr? on what videos cause ive been commenting on short videos all day. Also there’s a lot of barnes which is why i will be changing my name soon

[@hoi-polloi1863]

Prof Harvey was my first CS professor way back in the day! Loved his lectures, and am glad he's getting some love on KZbin.

[@eshatbereitsbegonnen7313]

Hoi Polloi! ❤ Humanity is a living whole and we are just (in)significant parts of that crazy mass.

[@whitehorse8558]

​@@eshatbereitsbegonnen7313How can be we insignificant if we make up the mass lol

[@princealmighty5391]

He was mine too he took us to Disney world as all the students passed. Met my first love there in Disney world been together for 3 years including now. We visited all parks magic kingdom animal kingdom and Hollywood studios.

[@tarik6990]

Is he still teaching?

[@hoi-polloi1863]

@@tarik6990 Yep! He's still going strong.

[@MattWithTheCat4541]

"The reason children cheat is because the school system values grades more than children value learning. " - Neil DeGrasse Tyson

[@djbreck1041]

When Neil says something that isnt dumb it's pretty good. Edit;spelling

[@emcustard]

Really, the school system values grades more than it values teaching. The children and the teachers are doing the best with what they're given.

[@richman360]

No people cheat because they don't want to try and learn the material lol.

[@quab5738]

Solitude I don’t understand you, you literally just repeated what the original quote is saying, while also insinuating that the quote is incorrect? Like, what the fuck

[@sirgrinder]

Yeah but these are fucking adults

[@felipemartinez5809]

This is so true I passed my hiv test without cheating

[@samnuebel]

Felipe Martinez finally something positive

[@nuke2625]

I think you did that too by cheating someone unless you are dead single.

[@MKD1101]

*Because you didn't cheat but the other person did!*

[@wenelol]

Damn, these replies are gold

[@vencasuamente]

Smartass

[@NinJa-qr1sp]

Grading on a curve is evil... This statement is pure gold

[@HassanAhmed-rf9xr]

sorry how is that pure gold?

[@theWebWizrd]

@@HassanAhmed-rf9xr because a lot of schools at least in the US does it and tries to justify it. It's refreshing to hear someone actually speaking common sense.

[@tseikkisnelkytkaks9013]

@@theWebWizrd Completely agree. It also makes your grade dependent on what kind of luck you happen to have with the classmates - there necassarily aren't that many people on some small course, get five absolute brainiacs who will ace every test and boom you're now bad even tho you're doing just fine. It's simply not a fair way to grade anything when there's a set of things you need to learn and you're examined on how well you learned those things. I have no clue how this makes sense from the institution's point of view; except if they teach poorly or have particularly bad students (which is almost never the case, it tends to even out); they can then pretend their results are average because they are average by definition.

[@bigdaddyj2026]

I wouldn't call it evil (or gold). In my experience in college, in most instances of grading on curves with regular size classes (30+ students), either an average (myself) student's grade won't change or it will slightly go up. Yes, you're going to have some brainy people that ace every test/assignment, but I find that usually teachers will apply the curve to help, rather than hurt, the other students. Of course, the goal of the class is to learn as much as possible while applying ourselves the best we can to that goal so we should all strive for A's. Just my 2 cents.

[@314shorts]

News flash: in the real world you actually compete against other people. This dude is such a moron

[@hamcheesecola]

College - Don't cheat Also college - we know you're an art history major, but you have to take this Calculus class, even though you specifically chose art history because you're bad at math

[@drakenguard95]

Same but with English literature. I sure as fuck cheated on my math course. Why do I need to know statistics for old dead guys?

[@mibosaurus]

@@drakenguard95 lmao

[@Vortex-qb2se]

@@drakenguard95 Math is the language and logic of the Universe. Knowing basic math and having decent logic is necessary for every human being in today's world. It is just as important as speaking the primary language of the country you live in. That is why you need to know math, but it doesn't necessarily mean that you'll achieve those two things through University classes, since mojority of math teachers don't know how to actually teach math. For example, instead of having the students understand the logic of a formula and be able to use it, they make the students memorize the formula. Math is not about memorizing, it is about logical thinking. Sadly, most of the teachers and even some professors don't get the main concept and prioritize memorization over thinking and learning. Here's how a good math teacher proceeds: - Explain the importantance of that field of math and what it is used for in real life, students will never question. Motivate them to study that before moving onto the lesson itself. - Show a formula and explain how to get to that formula out of something the students already know OR if there is enough time, make them "discover" that formula themselves. - Make them solve many exercises using it. - Let them use a list of formulas in test if they need to, but in most cases they would've already memorized all formulas if doing previous two steps properly. -Spend time to explain something even if it's not the topic of today's lesson because everything is important. Here's what a bad one does: - Give formula or theorem. - Memorize it or you'll die 👹👹👹 - Give easy homework without even explaining to them why they need to solve homeworks (solving exercises in math is the key to learning it but in reality students dont understand that unless you convince them that this is true). - Expect students to be able to solve everything with the formula of theorem because they know it, even if they don't understand it. - "if we had a lesson about it, you must know it. I wont explain something we already studied because you didnt understand it"

[@Among340]

@@Vortex-qb2se Uh yeah that's true, but i think some people are just naturally bad at math For example I always liked math but I sucked so bad at it because I just lacked the logic in that field. I don't blame my teachers though, they always tried to help, but sometimes it just wouldn't get into my thick skull, no matter how hard I tried. But then again I never really put that much effort in it, maybe if I would've, things could have been different, but it would still have been a hard subject no matter how much study I would get. 🤷

[@kaidenderomero4235]

@@Vortex-qb2se understanding basic math essential too bad 80% of essential math courses are far from basic and won't be used unless you're specifically going into a field that uses those. But also from that agree with you

[@itslash8493]

“I don’t wanna fly an airplane that was engineered by someone who cheated in this class” *2020 zoom class tests*

[@carlbergelcias]

Hahaha the cheat is not a part of the process, the cheat is the process

[@user-de4cq6uk6l]

Boeing: *looks away*

[@gregc6441]

You'd be amazed at how many people cheat their way through A&P school (aviation mechanic) as the tests are all based on a prepware study tool where all of the questions and answers are exactly the same word for word on the actual tests. All you have to do is look through prepware and memorize the answers to get through the program. These are people that want to work for major airlines you all fly on!! Only thing that will hold them back (hopefully) is the O&P where they will have to explain and demonstrate how they got the answers and perform a simple maintenance task on an aircraft. Scary shit.

[@jake9854]

well for my class... they re still alien cipher even if I cheat...

[@zan1971]

@@gregc6441 How is that any different than memorizing a text book for school? By your logic all children who memorize answers for exams are cheating.

[@RohanDaDev]

"WHY YOU SHOULD NOT CHEAT" -Recommended for you

[@Rosa_0000]

You looked at your phone during the test, but you didn't expect your phone to look back. You just got nothing-personaled by your own phone.

[@forzaguy835gaming2]

bruh, same, it has showed up for me like 4 times in the past week

[@gabem3251]

KZbin knows its finals week.

[@apocalypticbean]

I never cheat! (anymore)

[@SankhaKelumDahanaggalaSKD]

Didn't see this coming 🤣🤣

[@Sami-xv8ve]

my teacher always says " your integrity is worth way more than a number"

[@sofanice7445]

Hes wrong

[@jamesMcroy12]

lmao bs no college is gonna be like "Yeah THIS gUy Has A 4.0 BuT THIS OnE Has A 2.9 Gpa aND IntEgRIty, LeTs taKE Him". Yes, if they know you cheated ur fucked but if you cheat without getting caught its gg

[@Sami-xv8ve]

@aka Theonly1key there is no better champ son

[@Coolguy-mk7hg]

Integrity is not going to pay your bills

[@disuelallkanjari8249]

NO IT'S NOT

[@cachdeques]

I never cheated on my exams at university, but during the weekly assessements cheating / copying answers while understanding what was copied was common, and I must say it was a great way to learn, and I still remember some of those questions. That was for me like cooperation

[@LNVACVAC]

Weekly assesment? Where did you graduate? At Solovki Gulag?

[@You_Ate_My_Soap]

Well, good for you then

[@nickcunningham6344]

I literally use ChatGPT as a free tutor. A lot of professors would consider it cheating, and it is if you're just blindly copying answers. But if you actually read and check ChatGPT's answers, understand them, and maybe even verify some of them online, at that point it's just a more efficient way to learn.

[@HughJass-313]

​@@You_Ate_My_Soap😂😂 Don't be Bitter!

[@Ryan-bw9to]

Many professors don't even consider that to be cheating, as long as you learn from it.

[@kingsly1900]

I think I need to restart the story of GTA San Andreas ..

[@donlansdonlans3363]

Don't leave it unfinished

[@Chibibowa]

Remember, don't cut corners.

[@o1dragone]

lmao I finished GTA San Andreas for the first time a month ago without cheats

[@lenvoor1633]

LMFAO

[@orience2225]

@@o1dragone congratulations

[@brodypenn]

I love how KZbin recommends this to everyone during the coronavirus online school era when everyone’s cheating.

[@liambuchanan3942]

Lmao for real

[@mosesdevadass6056]

I’m really hoping my teachers don’t look at this comment

[@adidascat5773]

@@mosesdevadass6056 math papa moment

[@jimboreaddabible777]

Like in the 2020 election?😏

[@jimboreaddabible777]

Good for this guy! Mega-kudos to you sir!

[@iizvullok]

"The reason you don't cheat is that you will become a person that quotes people in the internet to sound smart without even knowing the person who was originally behind the quote." -Aristoteles 330BC

[@tigertian1251]

OOH self roast those are rare

[@adwitatherealadwita]

tigertian 12 A suicide by words as the redditors would say.

[@justoriginal6029]

@@tigertian1251 but he wrote down who made the quote. edit: *sigh* after 11 months people are still commenting on what I said... mine was also a joke to add on to what tiger said...

[@tigertian1251]

@@justoriginal6029 OOh that was an even worse one to your self.

[@channel_1-z1f]

tigertian 12 bruh YOU missed the joke

[@remyratatouille520]

A lot of the students that missed this lecture went on to design and manufacture planes at Boeing

[@Rikri]

TRUE

[@mustard639]

Boeing just keeps getting destroyed by random people on internet

[@hoangtran4736]

"grading on a curve is evil" i wish more people adopted his ideas.

[@electro_yellow9295]

Bruh

[@doofus33]

@@electro_yellow9295 what is curve

[@jacksonenglade6054]

@@doofus33 If people all do poorly on a test, the teacher will make the test worth less points so that everyone's percentage goes up. It can suck because like he said it makes students compete. If one person gets a 100% then no curve.

[@doofus33]

@@jacksonenglade6054 I think curve is good thing..

[@eggyrepublic]

@@doofus33 that's not what "grading on a curve" means in his case. Some teachers gives you a grade solely on your percentile score rather than your actual score. So if you scored the most points in your class, you get a 100 regardless of your actual score. However, if you scored in the bottom 10%, you get an F even if you had a score of 90.

[@distant40]

Current situation: - Exam tommorow - Preparing cheat sheets KZbin: *Don't cheat*

[@danielallison3540]

If you cheat to get a degree, and its caught later even after you have a career/licensed, the college can and would probably revoke your bachelor's degree/license in a state and therefore loose your job. Ever day you make money is money stolen because you dont deserve to have that license to work to begin with. End of story: DONT CHEAT ANYWAY

[@kullaxp4563]

@@danielallison3540 congratulation

[@kullaxp4563]

@@danielallison3540 congratulation

[@Alperpuse28]

@@@danielallison3540 congratulation

[@robbiverse]

@@danielallison3540 congratulations

[@hugosalazar4715]

My teacher had this video in one of her tabs then she gave a speech Almost exactly like this

[@randomdude6719]

That’s perfectly ironic

[@arturpendrag0n270]

@@randomdude6719 No that is called Learning.

[@FailBucketFilms]

Thats hilarious 🤣

[@someoneprice2371]

😂

[@Ril014]

Hopefully youre joking; cause if not thats sad as fuck.

[@createone100]

I SO agree with this professor. It is about your own moral integrity. I am old now, but never will I forget my first year English professor, who called out one student in our class mercilessly (how I cringed for her!) because she cheated on an essay. I was just 16, and already had a fairly good sense of myself, and wasn’t about to cheat, but boy, did that event hit home. For me it is about intellectual honesty, and is something I have always put a very high value on.

[@badabing3391]

it would be nice if moral integrity was a significant boost to a resume compared to +0.5-0.8 GPA

[@tiscomplikated]

my teacher says; what do you call someone who cheated through medical school? *a doctor. you call them a doctor*

[@CoffeeSnep]

That one always cracks me up

[@yesrooster762]

I've spent 10 minutes trying to understand this. Please someone explain

[@CoffeeSnep]

@@ricardo_2717 its because you don't know someone's academic past. A doctor who graduates last of his class and a doctor who graduates first in his class will appear the same after graduating. Their success or mediocrity doesn't follow them past that. You could be getting a fantastic doctor or one who cheated and barely passed. They both get the MD.

[@micosstar]

@@CoffeeSnep Oh, wow.

[@MonkeysRaw]

Ricardo _ you don’t have to be a d***

[@dennis_duran]

This would be better if he was assembling a sniper rifle the whole time.

[@davidabidoye8389]

Why does fit soo well

[@CashLibertyMusic]

David Abidoye cause it’s a school

[@parkerdalrymple4398]

Wolfpack Provisions well then I guess that’s one benefit to online school.

[@CashLibertyMusic]

Joel Park shut up bot

[@donk5058]

Joel Park wtf is this

[@icanspelle6050]

“Grading on a curve is evil” tell that to every professor I have

[@vagasint.4345]

TactialF1sh the curve will save my grade tbh god bless the curve

[@saskiadenboer3239]

Only the us grades on a curve lol

[@rhettwinwood6302]

@@saskiadenboer3239 the UK grades its GCSE on a curve. It's insane because it means we cant compare grades across years.

[@saskiadenboer3239]

@@rhettwinwood6302 wow, didn't know! I'm surprised though tbh

[@Kier4n99]

@@rhettwinwood6302 yeah you just have to hope your generation is the dumb one lmao

[@fosres]

This was one of the greatest lectures I have ever listened to in my life. Really it was.

[@TheOriginalJphyper]

"Don't cheat off the guy next to you because they're probably an idiot." -my 6th grade teacher

[@wayneurquhart1967]

Was she talking to the person next to you?

[@TheOriginalJphyper]

@@wayneurquhart1967 She was talking to the whole class. Nice try, though.

[@wayneurquhart1967]

@@TheOriginalJphyper Did you get my joke?

[@TheOriginalJphyper]

@@wayneurquhart1967 She was talking to me. You're the one next to me. (Yes, I did. Hence the phrase "nice try, though." I was too busy at the time to counter-joke; I'd just woken up and had to get ready for work.)

[@arhamsaa]

That's so idiotic of her.

[@StephenVTran]

“Nah.” - zoom class of 2020s

[@AtomicDude]

seems about right.

[@lukeberko701]

@@AtomicDude lmao you’re just here

[@tooler8689]

@@AtomicDude Funny finding you here XD

[@shivmirani748]

@Lello facts

[@ronnieturner6820]

Don’t get it

[@ploof592]

I had a teacher that told me “Cheat smarter not harder.”

[@JonahMV]

I whish that was my teacher.

[@pianoingels7128]

my architecture professor for static once said:"cheat, but dont let me catch you"

[@Void-by3ti]

Piano Ingels architecture and medical fields are the worst possible fields to cheat in lmao. I’m not tryna walk into a skyscraper designed by some guy that cheated in college lmao

[@pianoingels7128]

@@Void-by3ti haha dont worry mate i passed with the second best grade :)

[@dontreplyyourestupid136]

@@Void-by3ti Even if they didn't cheat, somebody out there is going to the doctor with the lowest class grade

[@Zlics]

Honestly man, you know what, this speech right here just gave me a different outlook. I’m someone who cheats a lot on tests, quizzes, you name it. You never know when it’s gonna catch up to you. Ive decided I’m gonna continue cheating, but this really changed my outlook on doing it.

[@weneverjokeaboutbunniesbunny]

Hope things have gotten better

[@JamesCarpeDiem]

just study harder

[@odie-wankenodie8607]

Wise words

[@BornTrespasser]

😂

[@badabing3391]

​@@JamesCarpeDiem nothing before grad school is worth studying hard

[@jaymiggs2045]

College board paying youtube to recommend this to us before the ap test

[@_cynth_wave]

Ngl that's like the first thing I thought seeing this lmao

[@jidu.]

Fr😂😂

[@jaymiggs2045]

@The Name shut up that shit was off dome

[@Navajonkee]

@The Name "Nobody will ever appreciate unfunny jokes" directly followed by "1100 people who liked your comment". Well, it seems over 1100 people do appreciate 'unfunny jokes', although I believe that they would consider this 'unfunny joke' a 'funny joke' if you were to ask them. Gee, could it be that whether something is funny or not is completely subjective, and is a matter of personal opinion? Boy, that would be crazy. I guess you should chill out. Though I doubt that you had much chill to begin with, considering that you've answered to a 4 month old comment with the sole purpose of picking a fight. Talk about unfunny.

[@Navajonkee]

@The Name 1100 people liked it because they found it funny. It's that simple. Calling them idiots because they are not you, and they don't share your snobbish view on things is a pretty ignorant thing to do. Seems like you didn't quite grasp what I was saying about subjectivity.

[@jamey90]

“The way you do anything is the way you do everything.”

[@THECHOSENONE-dx8lp]

Evan Smoke?

[@OfficialDugu]

How you do anything is how you do everything

[@OfficialDugu]

@@diegopascual101 No.

[@OfficialDugu]

@@diegopascual101 no

[@OfficialDugu]

@@diegopascual101 noye

[@insert_username77]

School system: Don't cheat Me: no KZbin: Don't cheat Me: ok

[@MrTrevor0567]

😂😂😂

[@averagebodybuilder]

School System : be honest and honorable You: "no - i am a dog, a POS, and a hellbound scum"

[@xtremechaos5771]

str8 faxxx

[@nathanmyles1]

lol

[@shirogami4224]

Maybe you should cheat on your lover that's a breath of fresh air

[@dophop]

I remember putting such little effort into a biology assignment I didn’t use the text book or internet. I was okay with getting bad marks on it. But then the teacher tried to say i plagiarized when I hadn’t used any information materials at all. Just off the top of my head. One of the most frustrating encounters of me not caring and a teacher thinking I cared enough to cheat. Smh.

[@TheSilvershadow200]

You said you didn't use any material. If you write something off the top of your head and it turns out to be a fact proven by someone else, it has to be cited or it is indeed plagiarism. Most likely that's what they meant.

[@dophop]

@@TheSilvershadow200 it’s not what they meant but thanks for the response anyway.

[@BornTrespasser]

​@@TheSilvershadow200no it's not. It's not plagiarism to explain or show understanding of scientific concepts without citing who discovered it every time.

[@marcoottaviano527]

Plot twist: he cheated and stole the speech from another professor.

[@ff_paladin]

lame sh!t man

[@ham8780]

let me guess, and you stole this comment /s

[@svenes2326]

genius

[@tonknka7392]

Its probably the opposite now, professors are stealing this from him

[@swedishfish1]

@@ham8780 lemme guess, you stole that reply.

[@bredslayer4251]

This was very inspiring to listen to and honestly his speech has moved me, no joke this was very motivational and after deep consideration I have decided that I will still cheat

[@zenkai5481]

Lol

[@theguitarplayer6816]

I couldnt help but read this in morty’s voice

[@heracleum3353]

hahahahaha, that was brilliant

[@hameemhalim]

Nice one lol XD

[@shaggymoose5690]

Another inspiring speech

[@muchobado9972]

This sounds like something a cheater would say.

[@leannihi6807]

Just another tiny part of this infinite universe that’s cool cuz I never interpreted it like that but... it’s a joke

[@psychlyeslg]

Anyone would say it so everyone is a cheater. Tis a joke, don't get wooooshed fellow reader.

[@tuxedosteve9556]

ボン iM nOt A cHeAtEr!¡!¡!¡!

[@code122]

@@tuxedosteve9556 That's what she said XD

[@RH-mh5tp]

this reminds me of something someone would say in among us for some reason

[@KingJerry2323]

I’m 28 years old and it took me forever to get out of my basics . Because I never cheated . Life taught me a lot on the way! Life will teach you more than any class room ever can . I’ve learned that having a little street knowledge and learning a little bit of books is always the way to go . I’ll be graduating with my bachelors in 2 weeks! Thank you

[@enjoyitbro]

I cheated off you in class so thank you

[@williamknox4303]

@@enjoyitbro And I cheated off of your cheated paper, would like to thank everyone up this chain for getting me an A in this class.

[@wu2166]

He speaks so truthfully that even auto generated captions are 100% accurate

[@kurosakisuzuki1142]

Is it actually townie and not towny?

[@eeeeeek]

@@kurosakisuzuki1142 its tony

[@kurosakisuzuki1142]

@@eeeeeek then I guess it’s not 100% accurate?

[@eeeeeek]

@@kurosakisuzuki1142 im just joking XD the correct one is townie.. i think

[@kurosakisuzuki1142]

:0

[@dawibong9013]

This man is speaking facts and now I’m not cheating on my DNA tests.

[@gotdemnoscopez]

Aight ima head out

[@pixelz1199]

@@gotdemnoscopez saying "aight imma head out" doesn't even make sense in this situation.

[@supersecret604]

@@pixelz1199 aight ima head out

[@BibtheChib]

@@gotdemnoscopez See you later homie.

[@imasiontist653]

@@pixelz1199 aight ima head out

[@STING-AH]

“I don’t wanna fly on a plan that was programmed by a guy who cut class” *boeing recalls the 737 Max

[@lorenkargard8303]

It was about saving money trying to keep up to the EuroBus

[@apollocreed2089]

I don’t want to fly on a plane that was built by a bunch of diversity hires.

[@pirozigzigwam8594]

@@apollocreed2089 Nice bait bro

[@IAmHereForeve]

@@apollocreed2089 I don't think Boeing is a bunch of diversity hirings so it makes it worse.

[@IAmHereForeve]

@@apollocreed2089 The moment you think other people and races are stupid is the moment you start becoming stupid.

[@mulsimin__]

Cheating is a terrible feeling, but failing gives you suicidal feelings

[@andrewgajdalo480]

If you are really feeling suicidal from getting a bad test you should probably take it more easily or get help

[@alecLogan]

@@andrewgajdalo480 Or, perhaps, trying something else. There’s something to be said for continuing to try despite failing, but there’s just as much to be said about recognizing that something isn’t “clicking,” and moving on to something that can.

[@slick_schlick2879]

@@andrewgajdalo480 Uhm don't you have parents and other relatives just dying to know your grades? If not then you may never know the true horror tests and grades bring to a person.

[@halflight8811]

@@andrewgajdalo480 Well people unlike you have no choice, "I will throw you out of the house", "I will beat your face up","you have no future". This is what they get, And i got it for not getting full marks on a test.

[@VenusChad]

Exactly, especially if you’re paying for the courses

[@triple6keyz497]

that’s why you guys better stay healthy. your surgeon could’ve skipped page 10 of their textbook

[@chadzahirshah2588]

@@alexandra.v No that’s the dumbest fucking comment I’ve ever read so far in this comment section

[@chadzahirshah2588]

You think you can just walk into medical school all clumsy and shit and then walk out still clumsy and stupid?

[@morasoftwood8224]

I- **visible fear**

@@poopheads Wtf?!

[@badza47]

@@poopheads LOL! I miss when I killed people man, those were my glory days

[@Cheese-sk4ky]

I have a feeling this was made way back where you couldn’t find answers to everything online. Oh, how times have changed lol

[@rubikfan1]

Google isnt cheating. We use it even in the work feelt. School is more than just raw information. Its learning a way of thinking. Google is useless if you dont know how to process the information. Thats why cheating wont get you anything in the long run. You dont know what to do with the information you aquert(my english is terrible i know)

[@Solbashio]

@@rubikfan1 uh.. Nah there's literal complete answers to worksheets online

[@rubikfan1]

@@Solbashio but no longer in the workfield when you work with stuff that nobody workes on yet.

[@MA-wt2xb]

It gets way harder to find answers online as u further ur education

[@jaafarkaoussarani9703]

@@Solbashio There are no worksheets in real life buddy. If you don't know what to do with the information you find online, you're done.

[@OmegaVestoLord]

The price of tuition has inflated to unbelievable levels. Students quite literally cant afford to risk not doing well in a class.

[@ezra4566]

That's what sucks about the us

[@brianallen140]

So your takeaway from this is that cheating is ok because college is expensive? Some people just can't be helped.

[@TheKusarigama]

@@brianallen140 yes, you never had any financial issues if you can't see it whats more stupid, is that much of the university scoring system doesnt make any sense, its just made to cut a big portion of the class into having to repeat exactly the same course again without changes to what you "learnt"

[@OmegaVestoLord]

@@brianallen140 it's not about being "ok", it's about reality. If you commercialize education to the point in which it becomes a commodity, people will treat it as such and try to obtain the greatest result with the least effort. It's clear colleges prioritize their bottom line, so why would students not prioritize the end result of grades?

[@brianallen140]

Keep blaming everyone else for your choice to be a shitty human. Pathetic

[@JDXC666]

Doug watched this lecture and still became Diablo the Cheater.

[@JonathanXLindqviust]

"You condemn yourself to doing something you do not like doing." That's a great point

[@dizzysleepers5005]

I sensed this lesson prior to clicking. But always good point.

[@FreedomOfTħought]

I think it's actually a bad point. When you're doing a course, there will always be things you hate doing that have little to do with the core of your course or little to do with the job that you will have once you graduate. Cheating on those modules would not be condemning yourself to do something you don't like doing, it merely means you hate this one module and want to get it over with as soon as possible.

[@Parvodocabelo]

Stew yup

[@voisart]

School is something that many people do not like doing, isn't it?

[@anshul9856]

Stew stop justifying your cheating habit , he's talking about general stuff. I can find fallacies in every argument if I took it out of context

[@willypete8155]

“I don’t wanna fly an airplane that was engineered by someone who cheated in this class” Boeing: HOLD MY BEER

[@Lithiim]

Bruhhh

[@Moneyfromaps]

programmed*

[@sean5431]

Another one... Big oof

[@epistomolokko]

next time be careful about what you joke about mate

[@ninor3079]

@@epistomolokko What do you mean? Why should he be careful about a joke, it's just a joke

[@serhiimamedov]

Average programmer googling every single thing during his job: "Interesting"

[@everyone01]

this is so true

[@DeWitherWarrior]

I remember that old meme that went: "Silicone valley crashes and loses almost half of its value because of Stack Overflow going down for maintenence for a week"

[@kaisenwastaken]

@@samiahmed4799 He said “during his job” meaning he’s already employed.

[@fnatic118]

This is what I was just thinking 🤣

[@moo4700]

@@samiahmed4799 wow ok cool but who asked bro

[@SHx589]

I understand his sentiment. But the real world doesn’t reward honesty. Unfortunately. Fake it till you make it!

[@nathanr1713]

Yeah, Fake it till you make it to federal prison

[@krispybacon9927]

@@nathanr1713 lmao

[@krispybacon9927]

See how that works out

[@Smokey1419]

Youve condemned yourself to a life you dont know how to do

[@logang4632]

It depends on who you work with. I know too many honest people to leave this statement unopposed.

[@tingwesley3285]

imagine cheating in the 90s, like you have to write everything down and basically study to cheat.

[@isaac7337]

no thats just studying dumbass

[@thomas-tk6ce]

I’d rather spend time carving answers into a pencil than memorizing them fuck the system

[@bigrunts9768]

@@isaac7337 thats the joke

[@sirduxdaedalus8561]

​@@thomas-tk6ce I once got all the answers on my hand for a test back in middle school. Good times.

[@bvedant]

it was also easier to get away with it back then.

[@dequavisjeremiah8605]

I like how this was recommended to me after I cheated on a test

[@jasminelee3935]

They know

[@na77-]

The man is always watching

[@spacelevator]

I just procrastinated for two weeks, cheated on the assignment that’s due in an hour and now karma is making sure I know how fucked I am

[@AidenPearce806]

Dequavis Jeremiah Big Brother is watching you

[@pk-fi1ok]

@@AidenPearce806 You stollen my comment. That is why BB will be now watching you (too), not me. Lol :)))

[@DarkAngel-tm8ke]

*I cheated through school because I want to be a politician.*

[@Trench303]

Dark Angel lmao

[@farenhite4329]

Politican class: Where your ability to cheat IS the test.

[@68air]

Dark Angel is Joe Biden's pen name.

[@hinata5736]

@@68air Lol Trump paid someone to write his entrance exams for university...

[@68air]

@@hinata5736 Go look up the speech that Biden and classic plagiarism of Kinnock. Then we'll talk soy boi.

[@pastorcameronmurphy6130]

“Cheating is just, the smart man’s expert” -Johan Goodwin

[@matt4048]

"The person who you are now is constructing who you will be for the rest of your life." *Me who has been depressed and lonely as fuck during univerity:* Well that's reassuring. Edit: Heh. This blew up, didn't it? Well, thanks for the kind words everyone. It's a bit too late for me, I'm afraid - I'm graduating - so I'll never be able to make up the opportunity that I lost here. I did everything right as well. I put myself out there, I tried to make friends. But some people just didn't want me around it seems, and did everything possible to make that happen. Oh well. Sometimes, you just end up with the short straw. But hopefully now I can put this mess behind me and move on.

[@sergiosuraci7306]

Oh boy, I can relate. Virtual epic handshake for you bro. Fuck it, we're gonna make it.

[@herbertbert3147]

Times will get better but even these better times start by makeing small improvements to your life.

[@TheLastEgg08]

Me who was depressed during university even before corona hit: Well that's reassuring.

[@Prescape]

Yeah, try and change it, reach for advice so you aren't depressed in the future lmao

[@dylanjones268]

@Mr. SB I'm curious about what kind of person you think you are that you don't belong?.. and apparently wanna leave the world?

[@meteorneor11]

Cheating on everything is bad, sure, but cheating to pass crappy, irrelevant courses is a way of surviving. (Edit) Now for some fresh music: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bKaTlKdpe9hsjMk

[@meteorneor11]

Karpov Liam Loser? Ha! The only losers--or victims, rather--are those who don't cheat and get failed because of it. The whole concept of failing is stupid anyways; the person won't like or get to know the material any better the second time. Its just alienates kids and makes them hate schooling

[@godofnothing428]

Qwerty Metastin the real losers are the ones who didn't prepare to pass. Anyone can pass if they work diligently.

[@meteorneor11]

David Adesegun Untrue; that's a common misconception. There is something called the zone of proximal development--it's a psychological term. What it means is that there is a limited space of growth an individual has for a particular area, such as mathamatics say; people have differing limits. So, you take a person who has limited memorizing capacity and or poor spatial reasoning, and then you plant them in a mandatory advanced math class; she gets a poor grade. Now you blame it on her being lazy, yet the reality, as it often is, is far more complex. Kids should not be forced to learn subjects that have no meaning for them and fail out of school--damaging their livlihoods and futures--because of it. It's archaic and unfair. People have differing talents and or interests; our schooling should reflect and encourage this, not deter it.

[@Requestnetwork1]

You're talking about about High School, this video is about college students who signed up for a course on their own accord that will affect their future. Like the guy said in the video, "I wouldn't want to fly an airplane programmed by somebody who cheated in this class." If you are implying that the required courses in college are too difficult then that is just nonsense, the zone of proximal development states that every person has different limits alone. If a student gets help and guidance, then their ability to learn increases.

[@jackschreiber4397]

Universities in the US typically require that you take certain general ed classes in order to graduate. For example, some make you take a history course or a music course +Metro

[@foxxi_on_eggnog8212]

90% of people: “interesting, i shall take this information and do nothing with it”

[@merenish]

Rest 10% : " I will deliver this speech to my class"

[@Oscar_AH]

Blame the habit, though

[@LondonLock]

If im being honest learning to cheat and get away with it is one of the most usefull skills you can learn for 99% of jobs but most schools dont do enough to stomp cheating for people to actually develop those skills properly Not saying thats a good thing it sucks but it will get you ahead i've actually gotten jobs in the past by talking about how I was able to lie and cheat my way though things (mind you this is stuff like marketing jobs not doctors jobs or anything)

[@lil_jong-un6668]

@@Oscar_AH Not the habit, habit is easy to change, it's more like the pressure to always go up in scores without letting students to fail.

[@JS-hk3eq]

Wisdom that does not become action is stupidity. But, stupidity that does not become action is wisdom.

[@mklein1]

I've cheated multiple times during my studies. I feel absolutely no remorse. If I'm going to be assessed in such a cut-throat way, I will do what I can to succeed.

[@xXscreamingkoalaXx]

By "succeed" you mean make money. Truth is, you've already failed at being a trustworthy person. So you might as well admit it. You value money over everything else.

[@mklein1]

​@@xXscreamingkoalaXx And? I know what makes me happy in life. You can't pull the moral high ground on me here by claiming that I failed in being a 'trustworthy' person because truthfully, I don't care. If money is a pathway to my goals, which it is, I will value it like my life depends on it.

[@mklein1]

@@xXscreamingkoalaXx Wow, more personal attacks despite you knowing literally nothing about me. You don't know how I approach my commitments in life, and my relationships with others, so don't assume. I'm not harming anyone in what I do, none of my courses are even graded on a curve. If anything, the most harm I'm doing is to myself, if I did decide to do anything related to my degree, so you literally have no reason to care other than claiming moral superiority which is honestly more pathetic.

[@mklein1]

@UCf4c0JJpGVrrMTcy7Vppw5w "Violent criminal" right, my drive to earn money to live a good life, provide for my family, and achieve my long-term goals is really pushing me to rob a convenience store for the money because I just have to "go for it".

[@xXscreamingkoalaXx]

@@mklein1 You said it, not me. "Like my life depends on it." There's your mistake. Your life is about more than money. One important part is being trustworthy, so that others can love you. What you just said is a demonstration that you're not trustworthy at all when money is involved. You should tell that to people in your life and see what they think.

[@amateur-madman3047]

“I don’t wanna fly in an airplane that was programmed by someone who cheated in his class”. Yeah, you got that right

[@lordlopikong6940]

Well, courses like those requires practice exams. It's like cheating on your driver's test but how you gonna cheat the practical one?

[@Predated2]

Depends on what classes they cheated in and why they cheated in those classes to start with. I cheated in classes that I felt had nothing to do with my future and that simply lacked my interest. Heck, I've learned more about politics through twitter doing it's thing than I've learned from civic classes. I doubt any single person has an issue with me cheating in civic classes when creating a large batch of chemicals, considering I excelled at optimalizing concentrations and have been a chemical prodigy. Dont add civic classes into a chemistry major. Its never going to be used, its only distracting and it encourages cheating in a course for no reason.

[@Man-sz8ep]

I don’t think I would want to fly on a plane programmed by one person either.

[@ベージャーオリバー]

Foreshadows Boeing 737 max

[@godlygumbo]

@@Predated2 Same bro. School really be teaching the most useless shit sometimes.

[@mohamadzfr]

This is the most important part: "You condemn yourself for life doing something that you don't know how to do and don't like doing" !!!

[@jonathanfairchild]

Borsalino, you missed the point. Learning how to cheat doesn't help you learn how to solve problems and get knowledge. It teaches you how to avoid taking responsibility and do inferior work. It teaches you to be happy with your low standards. And btw college doesn't teach you everything you need to know but it will teach you the basics of your field if you take college seriously. You will learn most of the skills and knowledge by finding it out by experience.

[@earlnoli]

so true. low grades are a good indicator you simply don't have talent and your time is better spent somewhere else.

[@crosstolerance]

@@earlnoli That is a misleading comment. Low grades and talent do not always go hand in hand. Other factors may be in play such as lack of motivation, poor study habits, time restraints, etc. You can't make those types of overarching statements without considering other factors. I do, however, believe if your talented at something, you are more inclined to excel at it. If I misrepresented your comment just let me know, but I can't justify your reasoning.

[@earlnoli]

Denial Not Accepted , ah i agree on your points. As they say, grades and creativity are not correlated. That's why success is not often times determined by grades but rather by a healthy amount of risk taking and determination. My point is merely a generalisation of knowing the difference from hobby and capacity to become professional. At some point at least adequate/median grade should be there (just like reaching required IQ levels) else work would simply be hellish for you and your peers. And jobs are not merely jobs. They are long term choices that have implications in 5, 10, 20, even 30 years if you manage to keep your career that long. You would be studying new things as your cognitive ability deteriorates throughout the years. Cheating early is a good indicator that one should rethink one's strategy in career selection. I believe grades are not important really. I even answered questions wrongly (compared to following professor's approach) because i believed that my approach is better or i will only answer methods how I understood them rather than copy approaches that may be correct by not my own. Anyway grades are (at least during Bachelor's degree) and indicator of good at following instructions. Master's would delve on understanding related literature and comparing approachs which is worthwhile to understand than any grades.

[@orangesky925]

@@earlnoli nope.. it means that u need to nurture the talent that is sleepin within u... everyone can be one of greatest of men or women

[@darpress9086]

I had a college professor that would go over the test questions a day or two before the test. Or sometimes he would hand out the test and go over each question with us. He would tell us the answer Nd explain why thats the answer. I dont know why but yrs later I can remember those answers. It was a totally unique way of learning.

[@AH-lx5nj]

That would actually help you learn better.

[@ericgrimes341]

One of my best professors in my upper division finance classes would do this. On the actual test he would change all the numbers, but for those of us who knew what we were doing, we didn’t need to study. We knew what to do. Because he was a good teach.

[@darpress9086]

@@ericgrimes341 Would he keep the same answers and just scramble the questions? Im assuming u mean since its finance have different numbers to the questions. Same question but instead for example 2. He would have 3. Thats not bad either

[@ericgrimes341]

@@darpress9086 I got more out of his classes than any other professor period. I took 2 of his lower division classes and his two upper division classes. Robert Donchez at CU Boulder. Used to work at Solomon Brothers when the government shut them down Lehman Brothers style. The man was involved in some shady shit. Exactly the type of guy you want teaching the next generation to be successful.

[@YEP753]

damn props to Your prof

[@theoriginaljean3917]

He speaks facts. Now, the real job schools have, is to make students be actually interested in the subjects, make them feel useful, make them feel like they’re actually building something.

[@LEAHKIM94]

I was here. October 4, 2019. Just in case that it was recommended again after 10 years.

[@kennypowers17]

mikmik ✓ I’m with you

[@onlyonemrxonlyonemry306]

Me 2

[@st.lopikongiii151]

F - this F will be the first for all generations of F

[@kaiky1807]

So... you cheated?

[@notreidd6350]

same

[@hellboy19991]

I rarely cheated in my school career, but when on a professional school you are learning things that got deprecated 23 years ago with the introduction of html 4, you have to question yourself why you go to that institution in the first place. I didn't go there to learn, I went there to get a piece of paper.

[@xocomaox]

That's why I don't hire based on credentials, I hire based on experience, character and verifiable skillsets. Coincidentally, I did not go to college.

[@wisico640]

Aww man, I came here for some positivity, yet this is so true for most "education" now...

[@oskarstobinski4522]

I mean thats how this kind education works, its for the job market an to Position yourself in it. The whole system is based around it

[@Badjazy]

Can depend on what you learn. It's good if you know what you want to do, but bad for just the sake of it. A degree for example is good in IT but not required to get a job in IT. Of course there will be a cap, but you can always go back.

[@kevinstefanov2841]

EXACTLY, my computer science degree started off with JAVA!! Can you imagine? Not knowing the basics like variables, memory and functions AND ALREADY being forced into learning OOP shit like inheritance and polymorphism. Java is the reason it took me (somebody who was probably overqualified more than 99% of the new students, having come to the degree from a super advanced mathematics course in highschool that only had 6 people left at the end, having started with 30) all the way to the start of second year when we started C++ to finally start getting the hang of programming after barely passing the Java exam. It was THEN and C++ that allowed me to finally go "Oh... so all this oop shit that never made any sense is actually only optional and you dont have to use it." Do you think it was because I was too dumb to get it in the first year? I dont think so.... And it is for this reason that no matter what, I will always have a sharp burning hatred towards Java and OOP in general. Even more so after having watched a few videos by prominent ENGINEERS (no, not regular programmers, cuz these aren't really engineers these days like they were 50 years ago) that tell us how and why OOP has failed and sucks and even ITS CREATOR hates on it at the moment. Oh and dont even get me started on the topic of programmer these days not really being engineers (you can often find software "engineers" who suck at and claim they hate math), I have devised a very simple test to check if the programmer you're talking to is an engineer or not: Ask him 1. What her/his favorite programming language is, 2. Ask him/her what the difference between sine and cosine is. If they say something like python/c#/java and/or even worse that they hate math, you're talking to a pathetic funny wannabe engineer. Anyway, back to the topic of why my computer science degree was a COMPLETE JOKE. The most technical thing we ever had to do was write half a compiler in Java that didn't even go to real assembly, but rather to some made up "intermediate" language. And yes, you read that right - a compiler IN JAVA!!! Who the fuck writes compilers in java??? I have a feeling my university actually got paid to teach Java, because ask any serious programmer and they will tell you starting with an OOP-forced language makes zero sense unless the university got paid to teach it and produce funny code monkeys. While my friends at universities in the US tell me how theyre writing custom specialized OS kernels for homework.

[@KalkuehlGaming]

You shouldnt cheat on something you actually want to become. But if you need to do something that is just there for the sake of the grade, cheating makes no difference.

[@CrymeLord]

Yeah stop making me take useless classes to get my degree. More than half of what they teach you at University is useless. Also, how about they stop being lazy and make tests that model the real world. In the real world you don't need to memorize a million things. You can use Google. Teachers tell the students not to be lazy but are lazy themselves lol...

[@mauricewenig3624]

@@CrymeLord the amount of useless classes depends on the University. Same thing for realism of tests.

[@THEDONKAGE]

Exactly. Padding out degrees with useless courses just to make you pay more for your education is fucking deplorable as is. If it means getting to do what you want and aspire to do, cheat on the exams for stupid courses that have nothing to do with your degree. Nobody is going to look at your mark in economics or social research if you're a doctor, for example.

[@ASTRA1564]

Bingo

[@ATRElDES]

thank you!

[@famguy218]

It took me 6 years to finish college. Almost everyone I know who finished in 4 in my major (computer science) used chegg or would find answers online in someway. The way college is set up in America makes it much more rewarding and time saving to cheat and figure out why the those answers are the way they are afterwards

[@nickcunningham6344]

Definitely doesn't help that you gotta take like 18 hours every semester just to graduate in 4 years. Comp sci major too. And I have ADHD. I can barely handle 12, and that's why I'm taking an extra year (I also took dual credit in high school). 4 years just isn't realistic unless you cheat honestly.

[@inferious777]

"I dont want to fly in an airplane that was programmed by someone who cheated in his class" -> 737MAX

[@tomusi]

That was exactly my first thought.

[@ClassyJohn]

facts. people fucking died for that bullshit.

[@flisko123]

@@ClassyJohn link?

[@pierrecurie5188]

@@flisko123 kzbin.info/www/bejne/fmPXpn6fnt-hqbs

[@the-real-zpero]

except the reason why those planes crashed was because they outsourced the electronics to a cheap indian company that pays their employees less than $8/h to write code for an airplane. The same company that was made coding mistakes in the past that were caught by Quality Control before making it to final product. Eventually they were going to miss something. What they should have done is not try to cut costs by outsourcing to poorly trained workers in india and hire well prepared american professionals instead.

[@GIRUUUR]

Why this shows up to me straight the day before exams ?

[@extraterrestrialhorse9722]

Same here wtf

[@aryamansharma9555]

IKRR!

[@tmoneytechnic]

this got recommended to me an hour before my final.

[@sarong4292]

youtube knew i cheated on my midterms last year using my side eye to the smart kid on my left. i still failed it.

[@starfall8659]

Same :)

[@dandychiki]

It makes absolutely no sense, why dont we have more smart people just like him in pre high school?

[@AntiKiwieCS]

Dandyych1ki Because very few smart people want to be teachers, especially in the US where the school is so shit

[@SwainerGamer]

Cause if they're that smart they're lecturing at uni not high school

[@james64ibm]

There aren't that many very smart people around, and society is usually unwilling to give them credit and recognition on a personal level, since intelligence is the ultimate ressource and few people are willing to admit to the world that they have less of it than others, so smartness is often suffocated in a hostile environment and possibly only really accepted in university professors.

[@yumatom]

Public k-12 is all about putting butts in seats to get federal dollars, implementing the social justice program du jour and avoiding controversy at all costs. Good teachers have a difficult time thriving under these conditions. My hat goes off to the good ones that stick it out.

[@jorgevencespizzakiller933]

Or in Pre Birth

[@AmirPB]

If the school system wouldn’t be structured, in a way, that if you make mistakes you get punished for it. That’s how it feels when you make mistakes, which will result in to a rhythm and a lifestyle where you do not want to make any mistakes. You learn from mistakes, that’s the whole point. Cheating is co-operating in my opinion, they should really try to structure education in a certain way that applies to real life. Instead, we get education based on the way people lived in 1800s lmao. I study Engineering in England, almost done, yet there’s 1 teacher that always says:”I don’t even know why we don’t teach you guys the stuff that the companies, that are waiting on you, are demanding from people nowadays. Instead you guys are learning physics, maths and aspects you won’t need to use in the business.” School system is fucked.

[@nathanr1713]

You’re right to a point. I agree that there are other ways to motivate students to do good, but making mistakes allows you to learn and overcome. That’s a life skill that applies to pretty much any challenge.

[@member5003]

Couldn't agree more. "You didn't do well enough on this problem on this exam therefore we are going to have to ask you to do the whole thing again but with different problems". That's not how a job works. If you mess up you get feedback , you fix it and you ask for feedback again until it's better. Then on your next project you know how to make it right the first time

[@enjoyitbro]

In some cases mistakes should be penalized, that's lide

[@AmanomiyaJun]

@@enjoyitbro In some cases, mistakes should be penalized. School, however, makes that **most** cases.

[@bottlecap6169]

Claiming that Physics and Math aren't used in the engineering industry is one of the most delusional things I've ever heard.

[@jansommer5735]

Fully expected him to say “The reason you shouldn’t cheat is because if you are caught you will be promptly expelled and rest in pieces your debt”

[@williamwells956]

Not entirely true since some students don’t pay for their education but valid point

[@3kbschannel288]

This got recommended to me on the day of an exam

[@netz610]

Cheat if you need

[@cinespressotvok]

@@netz610 Somebody didnt learn the message of the video

[@netz610]

@@cinespressotvok cheating is fine, you need to find smart ways to find the answers and then you dont get fucked because you didnt learn, you even remember the answers better because when you need to remember it you immediatly remember how you got it

[@noorahmed6620]

See, our lives aren't private anymore we're being watched 😅😅😂

[@Spodie]

And to me after an exam 😂

[@Wertsir]

“What are you gonna do when you actually get a job” well, in my experience the workers who cheat are the ones who get promoted. So probably become a CEO.

[@JA-jb4ti]

Cmon

[@EvelineJ_redditstories]

Corporate politics I'm assuming?

[@TheCheermeister]

Retired and loving the fact that I don’t have to take orders from bosses who got their positions for the worst reasons and then punished those working under them out of spiteful insecurity knowing many of their “subordinates” could out think and out perform them. ( That was true for 70% of my bosses throughout my 32 year career ).

[@dairyprods]

well that explains some things

[@isaiahthompson2134]

Not to mention that assumes both a) the job work is similar to classroom work, which frankly isn't the case for a super majority of the time and b) that the job work is harder than the classroom work, which also ain't the case cus most jobs like to hire ppl that are over qualified for the work to ensure precision and accuracy

[@Michael-pp8lz]

I watched this video the summer before starting my bachelors degree. I ended up following his advice and graduated a semester early with a 3.95 GPA. My classes only got easier as I went through my degree because I studied the hell out of my textbooks my first two years.

[@riegen.]

How very convenient this is recommending to us on Finals this week...

[@potatobird52]

AP exams coming up :(

[@iceeeyy3557]

I am also in my finals week

[@alexistorres4148]

I’m still going to cheat though 🤣

[@potatobird52]

@@poopheads you could at least try to make it seem less fake

[@user-qn4ym5ht8b]

Bout to start college, any tips and tricks for beginners?

[@SkywardPhantom]

"You cheated not only the game, but yourself. You didn't grow. You didn't improve. You took a shortcut and gained nothing. You experienced a hollow victory. Nothing was risked and nothing was gained. It's sad that you don't know the difference." - Confucius

[@jospehstalin6379]

SkywardPhantom 10/10 comment

[@revolvingworld2676]

This comment now actually seems profound and important.

[@adityabharadwaj2031]

You ran the risk of getting caught cheating. Also even if winning through cheating doesn't mean anything, you still won, right?

[@entropyofallcreation]

@@adityabharadwaj2031 People who cheat tend to be short sighted. The teacher is talking about the long term and you only have the capacity to think of those five minutes after you "win". Life is a series of battles.

[@ArmoryArchive]

Kain Sanchez People who cheat also tend to be aware of the fact that if the system really did care about us we wouldn’t have to cheat it. If schools cared more about educating their students rather then the appearance of that school then students would cheat far less if at all. Why play the game fair if the game itself is rigged.

[@rdrumbeats]

Him: Don’t cheat Me in math class the next day: THE NUMBERS MASON WHAT DO THEY MEAN

[@kal-el5470]

Nonsense , i even cheated my seminar by making someone do it for me , got praised by teachers and students for it too lol

[@ben15yearsago64]

kal-el 5 what are u on about he’s making a cod reference 😂

[@kal-el5470]

@@ben15yearsago64 meth methmatics

[@malachiventura8295]

Ben • 15 years ago fr this shit funny and he just wanna get all literal

[@rdrumbeats]

Ben • 15 years ago lol yes thank you for understanding

[@Zzzatch1000]

I never cheated -before the pandemic Now I do my exams at my house with my notes At least I did it alone and not make groups to do the exam :/

[@xXscreamingkoalaXx]

Good on you

[@alfianodamanik]

And parents say “Stop watching youtube, you wont learn anything”

[@MikhaelAhava]

I watch tutorials.

[@justaguy7003]

They are right, we’ll all forget this exists in a week. Unless you’re creating something with the knowledge, it vanishes all too quickly and leaves behind vague baseless emotion.

[@blauwbeer556]

@@justaguy7003 no, i still remember the physics videos i watched from a year ago, in fact, i will go back to those videos to see if rember them all.....yeah, completly. mainly because i was actually interested in physics and such and i learned some pretty cool things.

[@harveybright8348]

@@justaguy7003 yes, but we will forget that single equation told to us by a teacher in an hour. Let's be real, KZbin is more entertaining, which makes it more likely for information to be implanted. Who are kids gonna listen to, a disconnected boring adult that feels like a chore to listen to, or the norm modern age technology that makes it just that bit more interesting?

[@justaguy7003]

Stick Man That’s fair, and perhaps my point was a bit hyperbolic. However, I think it still stands that KZbin is vastly an entertainment platform rather than an educational one. Some entertainment has good educational value, but I hold fast in stating that unless you’re actually putting those teachings to practice (following and expanding upon the tutorial or lesson), you forget all the detail rather quickly and are left with vague and sparse tidbits. It’s great for discovering interests, but it also can leave a lot of people feel like they know a lot where they know very little.

[@lenap4956]

"it's not cheating if you don't get caught" -a random classmate

[@fille118855]

I’ve heard a different version: ”It’s not illegal if nobody finds out about it”.

[@xrayban2]

For once in french it's shorter than english : we just say "pas vu, pas pris" - "not seen, not caught"

[@jebvehxu566]

In the netherlands we say 'regels zijn er om te breken' witch translates to : rules are there to be broken

[@aidilnoor1123]

"Cheating isn't a cheating, unless you get caught"- D'arby, Jojo Bizarre Adventure

[@CooperTUGA]

-my teacher

[@RichieWilliams97]

“If you ain’t cheatin’, you ain’t tryin’” -Richard Petty

[@miaouew]

1970's NASCAR is a lot fucking different than modern engineering competency demands or basic human decency in everyday society.

[@RichieWilliams97]

@miaouew thanks and good on you for being morally sound, but I wasn’t being serious, dawg.

[@zacharybourlard1299]

@@RichieWilliams97 😂😂

[@aka_Jdizzle]

“And if you get caught, you ain’t tryin’ hard enough” -my uncle

[@ggb6383]

Words to live by

[@timmurphy5541]

I used to prepare for exams by doing all the past papers. The lecturers rarely did anything truly new - same kinds of questions with the same kinds of answers. I often wondered what good it was that I could only pass in this way. It wasn't too far off from cheating.

[@micah8125]

I'm not cheating, I'm just trying my best to survive.

[@muhammadali3138]

you dont need to seperate the 2. You can be surviving through cheating. Just say it like it is

[@xephyre6955]

Survival of the fittest.

[@forevershampoo]

@@xephyre6955 your not fit if youre cheating youre playin yourself

[@zerozone5848]

@@forevershampoo not if you do it successfully and not get caught in the process.

[@premiumcache6184]

Sounds like you're cheating then.

[@nashton7057]

"here's why you shouldn't cheat during online class" **Virus detected**

[@ReallyMegaEvenMoreUltra]

Use quizlet and use brainly i know u were jokeing but Im just trying to help

[@shanecostello4004]

not funny

[@Phiilly]

I looked up answers now I’m scared 🤣

[@ham8073]

@@Phiilly now all of china knows you *cheated*

[@ilyaasarsala9147]

Chegg is e best 15$ I ever spent

[@RawDoggin_78]

I wonder if somebody actually cheated on that exam.

[@R3lay0]

obviously...

[@toplyrics457]

obviously...

[@thunderbolt4741]

obviously...

[@iPowerMedia]

obviously...

[@minhriart]

@@iPowerMedia ...ylsuoivbo

[@BellaTheTitan]

I miss my teachers man School fucking sucked for me personally but I was lucky enough to have teachers that actually cared about me

[@STUNTSTHEREALONE]

There wouldn’t be any cheating if schools were about learning and not about grades.

[@greedisbad9890]

And how you supposed to know if a guy understand a thing in that class?

[@vdns477]

@@greedisbad9890 The corporations do that already. It's called interviewing, and it's tough on it's own.

[@lllMacBethlll]

@@greedisbad9890 let them work in the field with experts, they can prove the skills and knowledge. to be a teacher, prove at first that you like kids/childs!

[@chicksdiggit9239]

So how do you differentiate between morons and intellectuals. Should we just clump them all in one class and stop the smart from becoming smarter or pummel ahead and have the morons not understand a thing.

[@chicksdiggit9239]

​@alex rodriguez I don't know why you feel the need to resort to ad hominen attacks but 'learning things slower' is, by its very definition, stupid. In fact, the merriam webster's dictionary defines stupidity explicitly as slowness of the mind. For you to call me a moron and follow it up with a quote of Einstein is laughable especially considering the fact your comment is littered with grammatical flaws and logical fallacies. You can try to justify your own slowness all you want, but when your teachers say you aren't stupid just slower at things, they are just really trying to tiptoe around the fact you are indeed a moron. Better luck next time.

[@Giggeles]

Sometimes I put more effort into cheating than actually studying

[@nodice100]

LMFAO

[@MaynardGKrebs-gv4vy]

How is your job at Burger King going?

[@zach11590]

go fuck your self dumbass 😂😂😂

[@MrScarf-zm9ih]

@@MaynardGKrebs-gv4vy Go get a job first and talk dumbass

[@kalasneed3809]

Bleeb so fucking glad I’m not alone

[@larawabsie]

Man, 8 years. 8 years. - Oct 5, 2019

[@jaydens.2526]

Lmao what are you trying to say?

[@zaebos0079]

@Jayden Snell that yer moms gay

[@Malindor-rk1uk]

- Oct 6, 2019

[@udith]

Wtf???

[@larawabsie]

I didn’t think anyone would even read this lmfao I meant what a long time it takes for KZbin to put this in my recommended - would’ve been useful a while ago

[@nuclearbwl]

Our professor was of opposite opinion. Why remember stupid tables and engineering coefficient (etc.) and then get tested from that? You will be able to use books, resources, the internet and your colleagues in your future work. Do the work and what is really important will stick around in your memory. We could use all the resources a person in reality could on his exams and we actually got to solving real problems. To this day, I remember the most from his lectures.

[@HughJass-313]

Agreed. My memory sux nowadays. Fortunately, my documentation skills keep me employed at my job 😜

[@luisdb2844]

“He cheated” 6ix9ine-2019

[@jakezark]

i get it

[@noah2k07]

xXTread LightlyXx “He cheated, in my 1996 middle school class.” 6ix9ine - 2019

[@luisdb2844]

James Branighan chill

[@gerardomartin7]

Snitchynine

[@h0axify]

"In school, working together is considered cheating" "In the real world, working together is called collaboration"

[@martinc8273]

Yeah but in school we need to make an estimation of your capacities as an individual so that hopefully you can get a diploma which certifies you possess certain aptitudes. The work you produce outside in the real world is not fundamentally meant for you to display your individual capacities but to produce a certain outcome which is more easily achieved as a group. That's why school grades are not about collaboration... cause there are no collaborative diplomas. So your comment doesn't make sense :/

[@joshhayes5728]

@@martinc8273 well said

[@TruePT]

@@martinc8273 Why’s the current school system so bad then? I’m homeschooled btw, so I’m genuinely curious.

[@martinc8273]

​@@TruePT Well I think there are many thing with the school system that could be improved but none them I think are linked with the way it adresses cheating, school says you shouldn't cheat and school is right about that. I think the number one main issue with school is that it undermines the value of creativity : students are always asked to explain the mindset of another person and never to form their own so they become like parrots that are only good at repeating things at least in the earlier stages of education. I think there is also too much pressure in learning a ton of very specific data that you will have forgotten by the next week instead of developping a long term ability to think and use argumentation. I think a big issue is also that we don't explain students why they do what they do and that because of that they grow frustrated with their education. I think politics and philosophy should be way more important in schools than they currently are. I also think that it's kinda weird that schools expect everyone to do the same when it's clear that people have special abilities that are unique to them that they should focus on developping. I'd say that school should have some means to help or bring guidance for the students that are unwell mentally cause not all bad students are bad just cause they don't ahve the technical skills but often because of outside issues. I also think that overall we work too much to have the time to deeply developp such things as personnality or social skills or just growing up as people which are things that are not taught in school currently but defenitely I'd say more important than learning a all of the data which there is on the history of mankind. I'd also say that teachers are not Paid enough at ALL for the very difficult job that they do. That there are way too many students in a class for them to be able to teach properly. I'd say that it is completly stupid that teachers are selected only on their technical competence and knowledge and not at all on their social capacities and their ability to bond with their students. I'm not american but I've also heard a bit about school tuition in america which seems to me like a nightmare... So uh yeah

[@lolwutman]

There's a difference between types of cheating. Cheating answers will screw you in life, learning how to find answers within material will help you far more than the classes ever will. Both are considered cheating in a school environment. The issue in the school system is that it values and teaches *answers* rather than valueing and teaching how to find them. The limited answers you learn in classes will not help you when confronted with a problem you are unfamiliar with.

[@abstract5249]

Funny the professor mentioned pilots. I remember chatting with this hippie looking dude who had recently started flying planes as a hobby. He admitted that he knew next to nothing about planes and that he cheated his way into obtaining his pilot's license. I asked him how he could possibly fly a plane when he barely even knew how to start the damn thing. As it turned out, the fella was quite skilled at cheating death, too.

[@vp4744]

High achievers sometimes use self-deprecating humor about cheating and being a bum. What it means is that they are making you feel normal by throwing such phrases around. Don't be swayed by that. They are not cheaters. Jobs with most demanding skills have equally demanding tests to weed out cheaters. The military, for example, has methods to weed out and even offer graceful exits for those who think they cannot do the job. That's how some top gun pilots "retire."

[@pedrodonato899]

Funny shit right there

[@Ashpkfmdmdmdmd]

If you believe him. Youre an idiot. A poor fool.

[@whoistheroach136]

You cannot "cheat" your way into a cockpit now. There is no way for this to happen, just from the process that a person has to go through to get into the cockpit in the first place. Once someone reaches the cockpit in a professional capacity, their knowledge and skills are tested and evaluated continuously. On the days in which you perform a practical exam orally and physically (flight test), pilots refer to this as "career day". It means you pass the tests with proficiency or else your career as a professional pilot is in great jeopardy. I have encountered lazy less professional pilots who have scoffed at the level of knowledge they were required to demonstrate and I can assure you that they either got their act together real quick or they were terminated. The "golden days" of aviation are a thing of the past. It's an extremely technical and extremely regulated and rigorously tested profession now that no one can try to slip through the cracks without being detected immediately.

[@justinnanu4338]

It's difficult to cheat your way through performance tasks. You either perform or you don't.

[@tz7763]

"What are you going to do when you get a job and the person sitting next to you isn't doing the same thing" Make it up on the fly, cutting every corner along the way and still get paid.

[@JasioniBubbaloni]

This was probably the last time any UCF student laughed at a rape joke

[@MikhaelAhava]

True.

[@TheeKittyPie]

I bet the football players present were reaaaaaal quiet

[@folbykleetwood7462]

I don't understand

[@Skizzap]

Ashton Kutcher of course you wouldn’t Ashton

[@matthewmatteomatheus6483]

I'm more shocked by the fact that they laughed about it. It really sucks

[@chrissthrillingvideologs6053]

Cheating in STEM courses, not good. But cheating to get thru your lesbian dance theory class... ehhhhh the line gets pretty blurred

[@GoScience123]

this is the exact sentiment i have on this. like for classes that your major would depend on you defintely wanna keep cheating to a minimum, maybe do it on like homework and stuff. but for tests you gotta study hard and know what the knowledge is atleast, then cheat if the teacher is known to throw bullshit at the kids. dont just cheat for the A w/o knowing what ur cheating on. for lesbian dance theory, cheat away, just dont be dumb with it and get caught.

[@MrSidney9]

lol agree

[@korosuke1788]

If you can study lesbian dance theory, your university degree is worhless.

[@GalacticGamerYT]

I'm an aerospace engineer, but I cheated through all my math courses. Just the math courses though. When I'm doing math, I can't understand it unless it is applicable. Just writing down random equations and telling me to solve it? Hate it, end up just finding something else to do. But if the equation, say, relates to me having to solve a problem for work? I'm on it right then and there and I solved it yesterday.

[@drkInxgud]

@@GoScience123 i feel bad for american college students having to study these bs classes lol. i studied abroad in UK and we went straight to the things related to our major. i did mathematics with actuarial mathematics btw.

[@Sufflet]

Why is this always recommended EVERY start of a school year to me...

[@d.hotchner3550]

KZbin recommendations go brrrrrrrrt

[@retroconcept]

They know...

[@vhlk]

👀

[@suave605]

RetroConcept your pfp is a dead meme, it was funny 5-6 months ago but now it’s pretty gay.

[@eduardrafael643]

@@suave605 why do u even say that? No one cares, no one asked

[@Phlegethon]

I’d like to see which kids took this speech to heart and where they are now

[@christopherstockhaus9596]

cheating is bad mmmkay

[@PariahCarry]

now.... who the hell took a number 2 in the urinal?!?!!?

[@prithvirajdj]

Why, Clyde? Why did you do it? You think it's funny?

[@ruskieconrad]

And drugs are bad mmmkay

[@syr72]

That made me laugh lol

[@IZAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR]

linkinmetalica I think it heavily depends on what field you're in.

[@tolvajtamas8567]

You know you are having good teachers when they tell you what you are truly capable of and what you are lacking, instead of pulling your grades up so that your parents wont argue with them.

[@federicomelis7791]

@TsunamiFPS exactly, I can't

[@vandpgaming2103]

If your parents argue with your college professor for you then you're already a lost cause.

[@nsnsnns2183]

@@vandpgaming2103 He's probably not talking about college professors.

[@vandpgaming2103]

@@nsnsnns2183 well I mean that's who this guy in the video is 🤷‍♂️

[@poopheads]

We once pranked our teacher, it was great. So we went to his house and poured gasoline through his window, lit it and the house went up in smoke! The next day at school, we all had to gather and the teacher was there. He was crying and told us the house of his neighbours burned down and they died. We all had to laugh and the police came in and escorted us out and put us in jail, it was great! I miss my youth! Subscribe to my idiot KZbin Channel.

[@MWC1184]

“If you cheat and fail, you’re a cheater. If you cheat and you succeed, you are savvy.”- Cartman from South Park

[@mmcad0a951]

Yeeeeee

[@zerozone5848]

10/10 quote

[@MWC1184]

Adam Jensen ohhhh did I trigger you?!?! Need to go to your safe space!?!?

[@leoortiiiz]

@@MWC1184 he's right tho

[@kidsseeghosts28]

@Adam Jensen quote is from the show's writer not by a cartoon

[@hiimbonsai]

As someone with a degree that actually never cheated but was several times close to doing it: don't feel bad about it. The pressure can be immense especially if you come from a family that has to pay for your college while being close to poor. The thing is though that you absolutely should study the things in your curriculum. In the end you are only betraying yourself and getting a good education is a privilege, even if the concept of exams is absurd.

[@waccness449]

If you need to cheat to graduate, whether that course is in your major or not, you 1. Shouldn’t be in college 2. Parents definitely shouldn’t be paying for you to go. I’m glad you didn’t cheat yourself, but your advice is horrible. You should feel bad about it if you do, because then you didn’t really earn your degree and shouldn’t have graduated. Even the courses not part of your major are required for a reason.

[@Maladjester]

This is terrible advice. Pressure isn't a reason to cheat. It's an excuse after the fact. I'm not going to be that asshole going on about how pressure makes diamonds. I'm saying, if it's really too much, get out. Do something else with your life. If it's too much pressure to study a field, you should never in a million years get near a real-world job in that field and the pressures it will bring. Lack of guilt about one's own bad behavior is not a virtue, full stop. Exams are not absurd. There is a legitimate need to verify that prospective professionals have some idea what they're doing. Every homework assignment is a mini-test to absorb a bit more material. Every so often there's a larger test recapping large sections of material. Even if their job is going to be 90% Googling answers, they've got to have their own knowledge base to work from. Exams are meant to establish this.

[@adamnaqiuddin7807]

The concept of exam isn't absurd. If you ask the students, most of them would say they'd _cheat_ for the good grades. If the exams were absurd, no one would bother taking it.

[@thereareantsbehindyoureyes7529]

the two people who replied to you dont understand the necessity of being in college for some people lol

[@Chris-fh3qv]

Ignore the moralists in the comments. The education system is absolutely a cauldron in regard to grading. If you are going to put me in a position where I have to study and engage with modules that are nowhere near my field, I am cheating. I'm not stupid enough to be hoodwinked into thinking some left-field module is going to contribute to my professional development. It's an insult, a waste of my time, and just a half-crocked effort to fill out a timetable. Then come exam time you can bet I will be putting more effort into modules that are of more importance to me. But to say cheating has no place? Grow up. If no one's plane is going to fall out of the sky because they decided to cheat on a nonsense topic, go for it. Just put that effort into learning how to program a plane.