STEM students in non STEM classes be like...

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[@masternobody1896]

This is so easy be they will be like

[@masternobody1896]

Btw I fail physics rip

[@harsh9558]

Happy new year!

[@dimitrivavoulis2184]

Jajajaja, They are actually pretty interesting when they stick to the classics, I remember for a test we had to read 2 five-page long stories and make 2 essays about them, I just read them by checking every couple of lines and getting back 2-3 times to the main bits for evidence, I got an A.

[@LLlAMnYP]

@@dimitrivavoulis2184 Like that ever works. Many years ago at school a piece of homework on a short story by Chekhov contained a question "what did so-and-so want?". I scanned through the text, found a sentence saying "so-and-so wanted to build a bridge across the creek near his residence" and wrote just that in the answer. Got an F, lol.

[@elliectroncake]

Philosophy: If you clone a person, are they still the same person? STEM students: Depends if you clone by reference or by value.

[@Morphoidism]

This question reminds me of Roko's Basilisk. Since this AI will make a clone of your conscience and torture you, then who's to say that's your original conscience. Why should I care about me being potentially tortured if it's just a copy of me and not the original. It reminds me of an episode of black mirror where a prisoner sells his mind and his mind is made into copies to be forever tormented. Are these copies him, or are they just a different version of him.. really makes you think.

[@stm7810]

@@Morphoidism the point is an entity is suffering, who they are is irrelevant. the Basalisc is stupid because it was a thought experiment by some idiot with no knowledge of computers or brains, let alone AI.

[@sparkynicole3941]

Bruh that’s philosophy not psychology

[@elliectroncake]

@@sparkynicole3941 whoops, typo!

[@billyweed835]

“No. The guy who came first is the person.”

[@thesysop4998]

It's always really hard to tell the difference between a philosophy major and the local weed dealer

[@idiomi8556]

Exurb1a

[@astraios69420]

@@idiomi8556 lmfao true that guy sounds like a weed dealer

[@skykrasher4475]

Can I please put this on my “shit I’ve heard college students say” list?

[@karthiktirumala1773]

@@idiomi8556 just searched him up, wtf is his channel even about?

[@idiomi8556]

@@karthiktirumala1773 everything and nothing

[@spiderdude2099]

Non stem class: “ok, argue your point and you’ll get a good score” Stem majors: excuse me….WHAT?! Stem class: “there is only one correct answer, you cannot argue to increase your score” Non-stem majors: excuse me…..WHAT?!

[@vapx0075]

This is why I did so poorly in Art class in High School all those years ago?!

[@SomethingCool51]

I don't know, I saw a lot of people argue for curves in Engineering school

[@abz4852]

@@SomethingCool51 you could argue a 49 to a 50 but its not happening with an 89 to a 90

[@SomethingCool51]

@@abz4852 who gets an 89 in engineering lol

[@zimzimal8547]

@@SomethingCool51 a lot of people who aren’t stupid asf and actually study

[@jordanpeper839]

The literature class was so incredibly accurate. I was always so confused how people came up with their answers.

[@ThisIsNotAhnJieRen]

I thrived in Philosophy, Literature, Art and History Classes. I literally got As. I'm only good at Earth Sciences and Biology and Basic Chemistry. I suck at Physics and Math. All kinds of math. I kid you not, i still haven't memorized the multiplication table. So you could only imagine what happened to me in Algebra, Trigonometry and Calculus classes. I literally stabbed a classmate with a pencil.

[@TT-jg6tp]

You just write what the teacher wants to hear. First you come up with a meaning, just something that sounds good maybe with some fellings. Then you look for random examles in the the book. First write what you think the autr thougt then read the book. Maybe a forest stands for how our soul was always lost even in the stone age or sth. Then you get good grades on such things even if you think like me the writer was just tring to sell the book

[@lightningbolt4419]

@@ThisIsNotAhnJieRen I had no problem with math and I still stabbed a classmate

[@returnoftheromans6726]

@@TT-jg6tp Exactly. Especially when you put some ✨passion✨ into it! Lol.

[@WhatDuhDogDoin]

@@TT-jg6tp I thought like this before I grew up and realized there was a lot more to the world than just my own closed-minded perspective. Not trying to be too harsh, but you should try to put some effort into understanding things you don't find interesting rather than writing them off as meaningless.

[@bobriss1579]

Felt that English class. My prof literally read out the title and the author's name of a poem and asked the meaning behind the AUTHOR'S name. That was when I knew I was fucked

[@chris-dd6uq]

I had a professor ask us to write what we thought one author would think of another authors work. Fuck those classes.

[@duckymomo7935]

@@chris-dd6uq that’s insane analysis It’s like I barely know the authors how am I gonna put them each other

[@chris-dd6uq]

@@duckymomo7935 Exactly.

[@adamtheginger5882]

That's easy. The meaning behind the author's name is whoever wrote the poem. SMH.

[@xdeathcon]

I wish I could just say that I think there's no hidden meaning the author is hiding from you and the words mean exactly what they say.

[@jamesstevens5468]

Question: How do u know it is a STEM student in your class? Answer: they will tell you.

[@MrSdsok]

under rated comment

[@thatsepicification]

I'm not here to get called out like this.

[@natedole8276]

I am not busting my ass and ruining my life just to keep that shit a secret

[@joasmares5836]

I have never seen the amount of likes on anwers increase the further i scroll down I know i broke the pattern

[@niklasholgerson3779]

Although the video is funny, I don't really get it. Why the hell would a STEM student be in a human science class!? Is this a thing in the US?

[@TheJocey714]

My sister thought college would be a living hell after listening to my STEM major shenanigan for 2 years, but after a single week of college life she just said ‘it was your major choice that was wrong’ coming back drunk from a business major party. It was 2am and I was still doing my Week 1 homework from Inorganic Chemistry.

[@arf6899]

I love chemistry but damn is it tedious

[@rainyday9002]

Hey, don't worry, do what you love. There's no such thing as a wrong major. It may be a lot of work right now but it will be worth it in the end.

[@TheJocey714]

@@rainyday9002 that story happened about 3 years ago. Now I am in a grad program for chemistry to get a phd. Wrong major for a party person, but it def it the best major for a science nerd.

[@rainyday9002]

@@TheJocey714 awesome!! go you!! and I totally agree with that last sentence

[@eskimoof4804]

It’s always them business majors that say college is easier than they expected 💀

[@leonardodavinci3589]

I'm an author and creative writing major, and seeing it from the other point of view is hilarious. I've never been able to track math, but I was always the annoying one catching weird stuff in the poems they made us read. I love how human brains vary so much

[@carolinediaz4834]

SAMEEEEEE

[@fananox2057]

But have you found the thread? The plot to all stories? Mr. Leonardo of venice

[@raymond4218]

Same!

[@Zaptosis]

When the teacher asks: "what do you think the author was trying to do here" The correct answer: "Make money"

[@meapyboy12345]

Oh my god its leonardo da vinci

[@TealPersonal]

"This essay requires you to have a minimum of 500 words to pass. " "So you mean exactly 500 words?" "Well we encourage you to write mo-" "500 words exactly. Got it."

[@ninepuchar1]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@artsbybware4790]

me

[@guiserixsacha4520]

but like is it true that you get grades based on the noumber of words ? or pages !?

[@courier6960]

@@guiserixsacha4520 You get a zero if you don’t match the required word count (ex. You have to write the paper to be at least 1,500 words). But other then that, no.

[@sshernandez810]

My IB end of year essay be like, except I'm not a stem student, I just hated writing essays.

[@akhileshwargurram8363]

"Okay, I found the weed dealer" lmao

[@oximas]

that's me alright and Aristotle

[@hanrecoetzer8556]

I lost it when he said that 😂😂😂😂

[@justinw8370]

I didn’t know Aristotle smoked weed

[@waterfallsdontsaymeow2917]

@@hanrecoetzer8556 q

[@kellyeaton7252]

@@justinw8370 dude bruh, weed smoked Aristotle and that's how we got dabs.

[@darthchait]

To be fair, math just turns into philosophy the higher up you go lol

[@alfredomulleretxeberria4239]

Not really. Math has more in common with programming than it does with philosophy.

[@RajatKumar-jc5nj]

"lets assume..."

[@56independent42]

​@@alfredomulleretxeberria4239you haven't been high enough yet, i guess

[@bogusmcbogus2637]

@@56independent42 I have and it definitely doesn't morph into philosophy.

[@pedrosso0]

@@RajatKumar-jc5nj It's just a confusion of what the word "assume" means in mathetmatics. It's really an if statement. if X then Y if (all the axioms) then (all of mathematics)

[@abigaylarnold8505]

“Who is your weed dealer?!” Caught me completely off guard!

[@AniketKumar-lw6su]

"Ok i found the weed dealer"

[@shine-uy5fq]

HAHAHAHAHA

[@DrDoomie]

"If you think that one sentence is enough, then you think its enough." The Mathematician in me: "Are you confirming that there exists a single sentence for this assignment that will award me an A?"

[@ludwigvanbeathoven-beatsmo8228]

*Suffering from success*

[@katragaddaalekhya4811]

This is one of the best thing I've read all day😂

[@discretelycontinuous2059]

The mathematician in you should spot the Tautology :)

[@baerververgaert1308]

Also the mathematician in me: Finding that sentence would probably be too hard, but if I can describe an algorithm which is guaranteed to find it then I'm done. Algorithm: -initialize dictionary -n=1 -while not done --for sentence in dictionary**n ---hand in sentence for grading ---if grade==A then done --n++ To the teacher: give me an A or I'll run the algorithm. Q. E. D.

[@xXJ4FARGAMERXx]

Yeah but he said if _You_ think, so what he's actually doing is confirming that there exists a single-sentence essay which will make you think that it is enough to pass, but it doesn't have to make the teacher think that that essay is enough to pass the assignment.

[@txicityy822]

"if a 9.0 magnitude earthquake with an epicenter of my ass happened right now it would literally add value to my life" I don't know why but this shit had me wheezing

[@ThisIsNotMyUsername]

I inhaled my water so hard I almost died. Worth it

[@ballistischerfalke4061]

I died lmao, very creative lol

[@demarkustimeo2989]

Same!!! 🤣🤣🤣

[@ermiker7336]

I haven't laughed as much as when he says that in years

[@cerulean22b69]

I gotta use this someday, just going to wait for the perfect opportunity :D

[@LibertarianPatriot]

Its not about getting the best grades, its about the best grade to effort ratio

[@teamcynda6202]

This is so freaking true

[@sambo669]

This is where I’m at as a med student lol

[@manfromwuhan714]

true for everything in life

[@totallynotaminecraftchanne1923]

YES

[@sorcdk2880]

I have found that the best grade to effort ratio would be what internationally would equate to B. Even if you know the stuff in and out, getting As require a lot of work, but if you know things well, you can do reasonably low effort to keep your advantage and the effort needed for the actual grading part will be low. If you go to more average or below average, you will struggle to just keep up with the level, and you will strugle for the graded parts to keep it up to snuff, so it is actually much more work to be at that level. This means that the optimal strategy for best grade to effort over longer term, is to quickly push your main focuses to solid B level, and then scale back the effort there to just stay at the level, which then frees up space in you effort budget to raise up the next and likely slightly harder for you subject. Once you have done most of this, you can either relax, or when needed push yourself into those As, as the distance from solid Bs to As generally has more to do with how much effort you put into the graded part rather than the foundation. Just make sure to keep the fundation solid, because solid foundations are what makes all the future things easy, and because learning is usually set for the speed of the average or slower ones, with solid foundation you can both much more easily understand the next part, and build a solid foundation on that, without needing to stress over it.

[@amazingturtle5075]

I never understood why people actually enjoyed college until I took non stem classes. They're so enjoyable and easy, you don't have to do homework for like half of them.

[@bbybanshee539]

😂😂😂❤️

[@soccerboss7924]

Facts. I kinda regret picking engineering because when I’m leaving the building at 8 pm everyday after studying for 4 hours I see everyone else on campus having fun and feel like I’m missing out but I’ll just have fun when I’m rich

[@peterlewis2178]

Depends on the kind of class. My classes had a lot of reading and essay writing.

[@CURTAINS_]

Yeah dude as an English major I felt the same way about intro to bio. If you took one of the upper level humanities classes I’m sure you’d have a different opinion.

[@spectreone]

@@soccerboss7924 facts

[@thegingerxd1938]

"Is the hole in the donut a part of the donut?" - My philosophy teacher, 2019 or 2020. I still can't fall asleep thinking about it.

[@nuklearboysymbiote]

Especially hard to answer when selling ”donut holes” is also a thing

[@reeti5958]

Well now I am not able to sleep too.😬

[@samuellanghus1455]

It is, at the very least, part of the donut, as symbolism. A donut is widely recognized to be in a certain shape, right? And that shape predominantly features a hole in the center. So, even as there is only air, can one have a donut hole without a donut or vice versa? The absence of something puts the presence of its antithesis in high relief, so I would argue that yes in a symbolic sense, no in the material sense. Remember the painting “This is not a pipe?” It’s like that, I think.

[@reeti5958]

@@samuellanghus1455 I will just pretend that I understood what you said.

[@thegingerxd1938]

@@samuellanghus1455 If this was Reddit, you'd get an award, but the best I can do here is a like. During the lesson I was absolutely focused on the fact that a hole means a lack of something and I forgot about the symbolical meaning. I feel a bit silly now. Thanks for sharing your answer, I get it now. You're a genius!

[@tamzidrahman2673]

I wanna see a liberal arts major taking a computer science class. “Hello World”

[@realdragon]

Would conservative arts major be any different?

[@Adomas_B]

Yeah uh one question, can I hack my friend's Facebook account with this?

[@kidzvidz3262]

@@Adomas_B Possibly.

[@Simas1234]

Philosophy majors go: "Why world?"

[@whoisheiforgothisname2103]

*Literature Major:* Well you see the phrase "Hello World" has a lot of deep symbolism and meaning, it could symbolise the feelings we as a whole as one individual walking through life dissatisfied with no purpose because of society and you can really feel the emotion behind the sentence "Hello World."

[@OhNoNotAgain42]

I was a Mechanical Engineering major. As a junior, I realized that “Physics for Poets” (physics without any math, just philosophical discussion of principles) actually met a general education requirement. It was a 4 credit course while “Advanced Thermodynamics” was only 3 credits the same semester. I literally got 100% on every exam. I couldn’t believe people got C’s in that class.

[@rogergeyer9851]

Lack of interest makes a HUGE difference in ability to pick up material. At least it did for me. I remember when taking the SAT, one verbal section "read a passage and answer comprehension questions on it" was about how astronomers could infer how far away some stars were by relative brightness, pulsations, math, etc (I don't remember the details - that was 50 years ago). I was fascinated and easily answered all the questions without needing to check on anything. Then another such question was on the life and work of some idiot 19th century writer, and I COULDN'T POSSIBLY HAVE CARED LESS. I almost just skipped the whole section, but I wanted decent SAT scores. I picked up almost nothing from the material and had to scan and reread for every single question. There's a LOT more going on re learning than just "pure intelligence".

[@rogergeyer9851]

Same thing for me in the intro to compsci class. I was lucky enough to have the equivalent material in high school (early 4-H Fortran 77 course), plus the geeks went on to work on PL/I, Basic, etc. ourselves, as I found programming fascinating. So in that class, I literally read the textbook for a couple hours (first half for that course), went to class, did the super simple programs, and never had to study at all. The tests were all so simple I got done in 15 minutes vs. the 50 minute hour, and having triple checked everything, would just turn in my paper and leave. And quite a few people struggled like crazy in that class. It was nice having a total breeze for one class my first semester, making it easier to get used to college (which was much more intense than high school overall, re the academics).

[@finngeometry7570]

As a molecular biology and biochemistry major, I’m really glad the biotechnology course I took had us do a test and two essays about science in society. That stuff was more “artsy” than I was used to, but the perspective I gained from doing those assignments was honestly really valuable. My brain doesn’t really compute social sciences/art subjects too well, but I understand that they are important.

[@kevinzhang6623]

If you end up being a researcher, you're gonna end up dealing with a lot of political stuff and communicate/persuade people outside your community, that's inevitable and a big part of it.

[@finngeometry7570]

@@kevinzhang6623 yeah with some of the stuff we talked about that became pretty apparent.

[@TimTYT]

I'm in CS and the biggest shock for me, when I joined the Zoom meeting for a class on politics, was that everyone just had their webcams on. In my CS classes the prof begs people to turn on their cams and still no one does.

[@josedeleon9273]

I've only had stem courses and that is true. Some professors don't allow us to turn on webcams. Some do, but by the middle of the quarter almost everyone has it off.

[@ongaldiladevvy]

We do share screens for elaborating difficulties during an exercise not faces

[@takerukari]

Screen Share if we need help. Majority of the time, only the professor will have it on. Too distracting having everyone and their face on zoom.

[@KeisariEurobeat]

Weird. Teachers asked to turn off webcams and mics in CS to save internet connection, and no one kept them on anyways.

[@creampielover69]

Wait, so people in other courses turn their cams on? What are they, psychos?!

[@blackout995]

80% of my experience in college was taking electives in arts and realizing why all my friends have so much free time

[@cathyhart3946]

Oh my word, I relate!! I always wondered why the university was going to give them a degree.

[@lineupopozao1586]

@@cathyhart3946 what classes are you guys doing?? teachers (at least in poliscience/ir) often ask us to write 20 page essays giving solutions to shit like the turkish-kurdish conflict every week, not to mention the infinite list of mandatory readings per class but still easier than basic trigonometry at least

[@jenniferpearce1052]

Exactly! I did more work in my high school honors classes than university liberal arts classes.

[@asdfghjkl-oo7lv]

@@jenniferpearce1052 this is so true. Dual credit and AP classes were rough.

[@noon_chai]

@Abitamim Bharmal after doubling neuroscience and philosophy in university, I can definitely say you need to put in the work for both of them if you want the grades (assuming you have a competent prof). STEM in school is mainly learning established ways to solve problems and knowing when/where to apply them, but liberal arts is about identifying problems, then creating and defending solutions. Each field requires a different way of thinking.

[@margaretbaldwin4416]

i went to a super liberal, laid back, artsy high school and growing up i was always conditioned to think i liked humanities and arts classes better because my high school invested more in those types of classes and the teachers were always the cool teachers. then i went to college and couldn’t figure out why i hated every humanities class i took, and switched from major to major, not passionate about anything. finally i decided i had to switch it up or risk getting stuck in a low-paying job i wasn’t passionate about. i decided to try nursing (even though science had always been my least favorite subject growing up) and absolutely fell in love with stem. always having a right and wrong answer, figuring out how things work, working methodically through problems, getting to feel super smart when a concept finally clicks. i think my experience is the reverse of a lot of people’s - most people’s schools heavily invest in STEM and really cut corners when it comes to the humanities classes. maybe that’s why so many people go into college and get super excited about humanities, because they’re finally taking classes from passionate teachers who love their jobs and are great educators. for me it was the opposite, and i got super excited about STEM as soon as i was exposed to well funded classes and teachers in that field. i think it does send a message about the importance of well funded education, and well-rounded allocation of those funds.

[@avisnubia]

I'm a dance professor at a small university in the south. My classes terrify the STEM students because dancers only count to 8 and we start counting at 5. Y'all are very funny!

[@musaratjahan7954]

Wtf kinda counting is that??

[@SomeOne-gm5md]

I've always wondered why they go 5, 6, 7, 8. If dancers wanted to count four numbers, why do they start at 5 instead of 1?

[@gracechen624]

@@SomeOne-gm5mdthey want to count 8 numbers, but they want a short leadin so everyone can land on the subsequent 1 at the correct time. Hence 5,6,7,8 and then 1, which marks the start

[@hasch5756]

@@SomeOne-gm5md Vulgar! Everyone knows counting starts at 0

[@SomeOne-gm5md]

@@hasch5756 I think that's when your first instinct is computer science instead of math. After all, 1, 2, 3, ect. are called the "counting numbers"

[@Mr-xf9me]

“What is the significance of ‘the’”? Me: yes

[@xavierburval4128]

English teachers in a nutshell

[@ArcticZombie]

@@xavierburval4128 Smoking lots of weed.

[@TheFootballPlaya]

It is a good question.

[@SeismicHammer]

3?

[@TheFootballPlaya]

@@SeismicHammer It's 321 as it maps to ascii decimal values.

[@AndrewDotsonvideos]

I hate how good you are at these

[@m9tarnowski]

I LOVE HOW GOOD HE IS

[@mastershooter64]

yea because you were the originator of these, now you and jens are just messing around in a basement full of kidnapped physicists

[@isaacmckague8930]

I am in stem and this is not accurate.

[@studentperson4552]

@@isaacmckague8930 then you’re not in stem 🤯

[@PapaFlammy69]

@@mastershooter64 :'D

[@magorovthegreat6801]

Im a IT student who just recently took a course called "animal motifs in Czech literature" for one semester to get some free credits and i gotta say this is EXACTLY how it felt. And i mean exactly. One of the most fun courses ever

[@cocooavu2907]

3:57 ''Super mememable moment that helped me boost my _karma_ on reddit'' Lmao

[@Oceananswer]

One thing I like about STEM was that there's an objective right and wrong answer. I always hated non-stem classes where the answers could be so open ended and getting a shit grade because you didn't basically regurgitate the professor's opinion or interpretation on something.

[@fakedungeonmaster5740]

true like more then once a teacher sent back my work for being too short but when i asked them what was the minimum they said there was no minimum length

[@zea_64]

"Why did the author say this character started walking" "So that the reader knows that the character is walking" "0/20 pts. It's actually a metaphor for the character finally escaping their troubled past..."

[@limsiryuean5040]

I feel you so bad lmao

[@blastbomb2798]

This is why I love being a half STEM

[@fakedungeonmaster5740]

@@blastbomb2798 wdym half stem?

[@WailFin]

1:30 would have been killer if the professor responded, "No, m = 0 because what you wrote *_has no substance."_*

[@creativeastronauts6894]

missed opportunity 😂

[@shepbirddog]

I laughed way too hard at this comment 🤣

[@odysseus231]

I thought rather that he should have answered "1 what? Apples? Trees? Bananas? Ha, caught you at your own game"

[@NoActuallyGo-KCUF-Yourself]

And as usual, a law of nature is defeated by a figure of speech.

[@meapyboy12345]

👌👌👌👌👌nice

[@Freight_Train]

My dad was a doctor. He said the easy class in premed was art appreciation. I went to an art school for graphic design. The easy class was physics and the one everyone feared was drawing class.

[@chancerc7523]

Haha yes! In the mathematics department, and the toughest classes are major classes for every department.

[@pappanalab]

I hit the amazing sweet spot of being a STEM major who was also great at humanities. I’m an artist, musician, and writer, all of my talents were hobbies I just got really, really good at. My specific interests in STEM is focused on biology, especially evolutionary biology/paleontology. That eventually lead me to learn about anthropology which got me interested in ancient history. Ironically I got into philosophy through my love of science. Don’t worry. To balance it out i was also severely depressed throughout my who time in academia. I had terrible grades in most of those classes even though I understood and was good at everything.

[@denniscunnane5795]

i mean i dont want to burst your bubble but if you got bad grades u probably didn't understand or were good at everything then eh?

[@Pandara-up5lw]

Yea tone down the ego bud you wernt that great at jack if you don’t have anything to show for it

[@frankchen4229]

​@@denniscunnane5795grades don't mean much.

[@brickbybrickproductions8614]

Perhaps your depression and terrible grades stemmed from your ego...I don't mean this in a sarcastic way but when people are arrogant they think they know the information and so they don't actually learn. They also convince themselves that they don't have to study/seek help/learn because they think they know everything.

[@dragon-kun199]

i dont know why the replies are so mean when you're just sharing your experience. i think your expansive interests is one to be admired. i wish i have a wide array of interests like that but it is pretty narrow scoped so far. striving to expand on it. hope you're In a better Emotional state right now. Even when we believe we understand everything bout a topic there is always room to improve. confidence is good but make sure you know where things went wrong to prevent it for next time. Hope you're having a great day

[@chaosunleashed274]

I'm actually a STEM student with an exceptional passion for languages, and I can tell you that most of my STEM colleagues and teachers can't write for s**t. I'm talking about a "your a compatible blood doner" level of mistakes in actual written reports.

[@HilbertXVI]

Tbf that's not their job

[@asitas]

@@HilbertXVI you can't communicate ideas without langauge. Language is important, especially for academics. I say that as a STEM student myself.

[@PrometheusXV]

​@@asitas But there's also a distinction between written and verbal communication, and more nuance to even those categories. Many professionals in STEM tend to be very capable technical writers and verbal communicators, but often struggle with non-technical writing. Obviously this isn't ideal, but for the vast majority of people this is satisfactory as it allows them to communicate technical ideas in written reports, even if their communication with management struggles. You don't need to spend any significant portion of time studying language, as the amount of help the information provides is rather logarithmic: particularly if you predominately work with individuals in a single language and culture.

[@MarceloArzubialdeRodriguez]

Mmm well yes language skills add a plus on you and will open so many Doors to you. But, still, if you see those people as workers, they dont need it to comply what they are suposed to do. So depends on what's the person looking for, and if he mind being succesfull.

[@FlowerTower]

Same here. It’s literally ridiculous - like I don’t expect anyone to be writing novels but they literally can’t relay a simple idea.

[@eminemlandsteiner168]

"I am more of a python fan" I felt that

[@harleyspeedthrust4013]

I disagree bro I don't like pythons type system

[@citroenboter]

@@harleyspeedthrust4013 me neither I'm a JavaScript React kinda person

[@harleyspeedthrust4013]

@@citroenboter aw darn javascript has an even worse type system, but react is pretty cool with typescript

[@sinom]

@@citroenboter really? Using react with JavaScript instead of TypeScript? Do you want to torture yourself? (Until you run across a library with shitty TS support and wish you were just using JS instead)

[@somenamelastnaammee52]

@@citroenboter this

[@nirmalsuki]

I was a STEM student, but I also studied business. While doing my masters, I worked as a note taker for a few students in the humanities. It was a weird experience.

[@merryoldgrinkh9020]

Oh I should do this.

[@redsoxu571]

As a STEM major who loved his non-STEM subjects too, I had a great time in my freshman seminar. There were a number of them, and they all focused on writing (they were basically about priming students to understand what would be expected of them going forward in terms of writing workload), but they placed all the STEM students in the same one that had the same sort of writing assignments but with a STEM-subject bent. We'd get all sort of casual "write a page's worth" single-night assignments that I would tear through, but before long I realized how much of a slog the whole thing was for a number of classmates. Fair enough, to each one's own, right? By the time I graduated, I had concluded that if my goal had been to get maximum enjoyment out of college classes I would have been a history major. Don't get me wrong, that "if" was not actually true and thus even retroactively I'd stand by my major, but that alternative track would have been like a vacation!

[@sovietunion7643]

considering how bad my highschool years were, the only way i was going to actually stick with another round in school systems and not actively hate my life and drop out was if i actually enjoyed what i was doing, so im 100% glad i picked history. you can keep your fancy jobs i just want to actively try to not be a idiot at my parents home being a bum

[@Ash_W04]

1:57 The author purposely chose the definite article “the” as opposed to the indefinite article “a” which clearly shows a determined and concrete thought or desire (I do stem and non-stem lmao)

[@grankoczsk]

The fuck

[@summerbrotman4925]

I like that a lot :)

[@Charlie-yq8hu]

Youd be a great English teacher

[@denominagainatedableus13ye5]

Whose your weed dealer?

[@AustinJASMR]

How long did it take you to actually think of that?

[@phrophetsamgames]

As a Polsci Major I once sat in a STEM class and realized I couldn't just participate in an debate with the professor and other students about wars or public policies but actually had to have the same answer as everyone else in the room.

[@SRosenberg203]

That sounds so boring lol. Where's the fun in everyone just having the same answer?

[@batukhan1]

Science has to conform to nature. The debate in science is basically who's model of explanation is closest to natural occurance.

[@Subt0nix]

@@SRosenberg203 the fun is finding different ways to get to that solution.

[@cptn_chromo3189]

@@SRosenberg203 Because once you learn how to have the right answer every time, you go on to make a lot of money after graduation for having that skill. Then with that money you can do anything you please in your free time. It's called delayed gratification.

[@danielkim3525]

It's a large misconception that STEM problems are as straightforward as you assume. There are plenty of instances where you have to find an answer based on your own judgement for what's best as a solution to a given problem based on your own interpretation. Typically, you have to make a compromise and find a solution at the cost of one or more tradeoffs, which highly depends on the situation. In STEM, there are plenty of debates for a massive variety of topics, because not everyone comes to the same conclusion or follows the same process to get an answer.

[@ykm_mirror_ghost5154]

As a STEM major who wants to be a teacher, writing a paper about the value of art and STEAM felt like this video at first. But now I’m realizing that art, scientific illustration, and creativity actually do play a role in creating a more accessible educational experience. Who knew?

[@lurategh]

Of course!! There's indescribable value to a liberal arts education. People should be well-rounded, and oftentimes the skills learned from the two disciplines can bleed into the other anyway. Just because something doesn't produce a tangible product or doesn't produce profit doesn't mean it's any less worth our time. Pretty much everything that makes us human is found in the humanities (the fact it's called humanities should be a dead giveaway)--art, writing, philosophy, music, all the things that have made up human culture since quite literally the beginning of humankind. And at the same time, STEM is incredibly important too for obvious reasons. There's no stressing the importance of valuing BOTH kinds of educations because they're both extremely vital to civilization. That should go without saying.

[@sovietunion7643]

well of course. humans are flexible and don't work as machines. we don't have certain backrounds or inputs that make an exact output every time. different people have different tendencies, skill floors/ceilings, stress/work tolerence, and so forth. economics for me has worked best in finding the balance of this, mixing brutal darwinistic mathematics and structures with genuine debate on how society should run.

[@zerocooljpn]

that "the fuck" got to me man. I relate so much. They spend hours talking about nothing. I read the super boring books and everything. But the difference of opinion with the teacher/professor usually got me a C tops. C doesn't betray you. It justs compiles and runs beautifully.

[@stevegamer68]

The only problem with C is that it runs beautifully until it doesn't and then you spend the next hours trying to find out what happened only to trace it back to some irrelevant piece of code that triggers undefined behaviour

[@musaratjahan7954]

"C just complies and runs beautifully" what planet are you living on?

[@stevejones69420]

​@@musaratjahan7954the one where segfaults are nonexistent

[@smikkelbeer7890]

Error: segmentation fault.

[@funtinomccoy9989]

“How many sig figs” triggered my fight or flight

[@weareallbornmad410]

What on earth is a sig fig?? Please enlighten the poor non-STEM student... :D

[@emperorpalpatine8943]

@@weareallbornmad410 something to do with numbers in chemistry. I’m not to sure

[@th3oryO]

Significant figures, or how many numbers after the decimal point

[@SomeGuyandHisHerps]

How many numbers to round to so you can be precise

[@renagonpoi5747]

@@th3oryO no, it's the number of digits before trailing zeroes.

[@omlett6482]

"How do we know we exist?" "Easy, we just accept the axiom that we exist"

[@oximas]

no that's called cheating

[@inotmark]

I don't care if I exist, just feed me when I am hungry and the rest takes care of itself.

[@64standardtrickyness]

Define exist

[@inotmark]

@@64standardtrickyness after dinner....

[@aceo_o2295]

@@inotmark 😂😂

[@myagrimm4719]

I'm getting a STEM degree and wish there was more of a focus on writing. So many scientific papers I read are horrible - they either over explain things in the most convoluted way or barely provide relevant details. Finding a well-written scientific paper is soooo satisfying 😌

[@candyman4769]

People don’t have time to focus on writing well, it’s publish or perish out there

[@myagrimm4719]

@@candyman4769 True. I hope those standards change. Research should be encouraged of course but there are a lot of issues with expecting research to always be something new and "exciting." Especially in regards to people not doing follow up studies to confirm results and not releasing negative results, and sometimes people just straight up fake their data to conform with "publish or perish"

[@chancerc7523]

Maybe it will! With concern over low-quality or reproduced“data” from technology percolate into certain research circles in later or upcoming years?

[@plasmakitten4261]

Should have tried math, where good writing is essential to being understood at all

[@lurategh]

As someone with a degree in the humanities, I probably would've been just as much a fish out of water in STEM classes. I took a computer science class for one semester and didn't know what the f I was doing, and I only took the lowest-level math class required for me to graduate bc me + complex math = nope. Good thing we as humans vary widely in our strengths and interests, huh? Where would we be as a society without the humanities and where would we be without STEM?

[@musaratjahan7954]

Same here but my majors were reversed. I'm majoring in STEM and, as an elective, we had to take some humanities classes. I decided to take English (I think it was literature?) and immediately on the first day, it was obvious to me, I had no idea what was going on. I had an episode of impostor syndrome just sitting in that class while everyone seemed to come up with answers out of no where. I'm a bit egotistical and used to figuring out answers in mathematics easily and before anyone else, so I was not used to being speechless in a class

[@JayTemple]

Math major, French minor. (I suppose languages count as humanities. Not STEM, in any event, although a Ph.D. in any field, including STEM, requires them.) In high school we had a writing assignment one day where I said that science classes, construed to include math, were important because science makes or preserves life. The teacher replied that the humanities make it enjoyable. Now I like to say that we're both right. Science saves and improves lives at the fundamental level, but humanities make life worthwhile.

[@lurategh]

@@JayTemple Yes, I like to think STEM is a manifestation of ourselves on an external level (the curiosity and intelligence to create a better, more advanced outer world) while humanities are a manifestation of our internal, innate selves as humans (just think of art, music, writing, language, philosophy, everything that makes up human culture and has been with us since we've existed). It's obviously more nuanced than that but that's just if I had to word it in a nutshell. Both extremely vital to the perpetuation and advancement of civilization.

[@g4uzy]

@@lurateghbeautifully said

[@chancerc7523]

@@JayTemple​​⁠​​⁠@merryway3 I love these answers.

[@snowcake2846]

Next vid: non-stem students in stem classes.

[@pugboi8017]

Lol... i took a philosophy in physics class. It was open to all students. It was weighted 60% philosophy and 40% physics, basic math no calculus although the formulas look a tad nasty. This was also the rough ratio of physics to non-stem students(philosophy,journalism etc). By the end of the semester, of all the non-stem students, only 1 remained and he barely passed. The philosophy tutor sounded like he really knew his stuff but because he didn’t teach the first principles - although alot of the stem kids walked away with a good grade as it was considered a bludge subject for physics majors, they didn’t really know what philosophy was about

[@SmokeySpace]

@@pugboi8017 how do those relate to each other? Lol

[@RebekahParkhurst]

YAS PLEASE

[@pugboi8017]

SmokeySpace i’m not sure lol, i looked through the slides many times, it was pretty much fluff lol. Cop out course though

[@MaraudingManiac]

@@alexanderdvanbalderen9803 Honestly though, you can flip that back around on them. You could easily say "Well, what use does anyone have for poem analysis in their day to day life?" The truth is, the ability to digest and understand problems in a concrete way, and the methodologies that are used by various fields are themselves useful. Maybe I won't personally ever to figure out the trajectory of a ball when tossed in a rotating cylinder on a space station, but differential equations themselves are a very powerful methodology. Maybe a bit of pure mathematics will never be "relevant" outside of pure math, but it's not like the practice of it and understanding can't apply to your problem solving skills.

[@nathangehman7018]

"OK. I found the weed dealer." That's quality writing right there.

[@housellama]

As someone who majored in experimental psychology and minored in philosophy, his writing is spot on.

[@forbidden-cyrillic-handle]

I can confirm. I watch philosophy videos to get high. No substance abuse is required. And also it's freely available on KZbin. Once I watched a video that claimed it would clarify something. I got about 10 times more confused after all clarification.

[@user-qw3xj4qv8j]

Well, as a Fine Arts student whose older sister is a biomedical engineer, I have seen both sides, and I think what it comes down to is to be good - and I mean really good - in a field as a CAREER, you have to put in A LOT of work. Granted, what that work is extremely different STEM vs. art, but work is work. Recognize and respect that, artists and engineers!

[@kevinzhang6623]

Thanks, I needed a good laugh. Not all work is equal.

[@user-qw3xj4qv8j]

@@kevinzhang6623 It’s just my opinion. You can have yours without being rude.

[@wintermelon8268]

@@kevinzhang6623 Did they say art took more work than science or is equivalent? They said the work involved in STEM and art differs... This isn't hard to grasp. The point is both science and art still take a lot of work to get into...

[@rosyreverie]

As a biology major and current med student I was so triggered by the “sig figs” it brings back horrible memories from chemistry lol.

[@matthewsj]

In Philosophy: OK, found the weed dealer. Best Line Ever!!

[@acca1461]

Bro😂😂😂😂😂

[@larswillems9886]

@@acca1461 I get the joke so no r/woooosh but isn't what the weed dealer said actually a scientific toughtprocess.

[@justinw8370]

My philosophy prof. made sure to frequently mention that coming to lecture high does not automatically make you better at philosophy so I don’t think all professors are incapable of understanding what students think of given subjects. Idk sometimes I assume that they aren’t really people but are actually robots and some of the times I am wrong.

[@maxybaer123]

@@larswillems9886 yes I assume they are about to launch into a lesson on one of the basic arguments of philosophy which is basicaly how we prove things are real. its not I think therefore I am. the most common answer to the problem afaik(not a philosophy major) is simply things are reall because they behave the way we expect them too and thus beleving they are real is the most useful framwork.

[@AfroMedic]

Lol my professor sent a 32 pages PDF file to read just to answer 10 questions. I converted it to a word file and serched words and saved my life.

[@jonathangrey6354]

That’s how you get through the humanities

[@AfroMedic]

@@jonahmann no time for that

[@jorgegomez3224]

just open the pdf on the browser and use ctrl F, no need to wast space creating a word document ;)

[@AmandaFreitas1998]

@@AfroMedic that's sad

[@AfroMedic]

@@AmandaFreitas1998 lol why, the American education system is not standardized. Why waste your life while others are doing less work for the same class .

[@sincerelyremy]

I've noticed that people have an odd tendency to discredit any field of study they aren't personally good at. I was never particularly good at math, to the point I was actively failing math classes for a while, but I never thought math was a useless subject that wasn't worth teaching, nor did I think mathematicians weren't important to society. In fact, I have a lot of respect for them because they can easily do something I can't. However, I have met people who do think that mathematics is a worthless field because they personally don't understand it, even though that's not the case. The humanities get this sentiment all the time, especially from STEM majors, who don't personally understand how to engage with them, and thus write them off as meaningless. Just because you don't understand something, doesn't mean there's nothing there to understand.

[@datahigh]

Alright... if you say so, but promise you won't end up one of those people on LinkedIn that after 6 years post grad and having applied to over 500 roles without landing a single interview, posts weekly about maintaining a positive attitude, complaining about the job market, and reminding others you're willing to work. Because you know doesn't do that? STEM majors!

[@takebacktheholyland9306]

@@datahigh found one of them right here

[@datahigh]

@@takebacktheholyland9306 I'm a junior, and I have to turn down job offers all the time because I havn't even graduated yet!

[@yazeedalfrog]

I'm not saying that subjects like history and literature don't contribute to society, they can help us understand ourselves and such, but it's hard to argue that are as important as STEM subjects, nowhere near them in my opinion, they are the backbone of our society.

[@kringle7804]

​@yazeedalfrog hmm is that the case really of course stem and all that stuff is a back bone but the abstract side of reality is what determines how we use that stuff being able to understand and shape that abstract reality is how we make the ultimate lifeforms one that doesn't just have the technology to rule the world but has the knowledge to rule himself

[@poorlittlesheep4098]

As an engineer, I actually found history and philosophy quite fascinating. It's too hard to predict the future with science, but looking back gives you a pretty good idea about what's gonna happen. Humanity has never changed.

[@carson4174]

Nerd

[@DeathnoteBB]

@Questa Semplice Animazione So I guess everywhere else inventing things just didn’t matter according to yiu

[@DeathnoteBB]

@Questa Semplice Animazione You know Greece didn’t invent philosophers right?

[@Tom-cc6qo]

@Questa Semplice Animazione spoken like someone who knows very little about philosophy or technology

[@AofCastle]

@@carson4174 no u

[@jenniferpearce1052]

At my school, the STEM kids taking their one French class to collect their AP credits outperformed the French majors in the same class.

[@hoangnguyenvuhuy5535]

@ཀཱ or they just know French in advance, there used to be a Japanese in my JPN 101 class

[@MCSROkickz]

STEM majors outperform arts kids in every class.Elite shit.

[@percyweasley9301]

So their syllabus and difficulty level were same with French majors?

[@jenniferpearce1052]

@@percyweasley9301 Exact same classroom at the same time. Same exams, same readings, same assignments, same quizzes.

[@percyweasley9301]

@@jenniferpearce1052 Wow, that's not right. French major's syllabus and exam should be tougher than AP credits syllabus.

[@TTCBlaze]

0:59 that is a great programmer joke

[@HyperDevv]

Mf’s using js and using semicolons sometimes and not at others

[@martyruth77]

the literature discussion is so real- i'm a computer science major now, and back in the 12th grade i took AP literature. i was really sitting there at my desk, doing actual math with the ages and timespans listed in Wuthering Heights to disprove the theory that Cathy's ghost could have been at the window

[@Nathan55411]

As a CS major, the one on philosophy I'm not actually sure is accurate. One of the philosophy classes I took, "critical reasoning," talked all about how we make arguments, how we reason and how we come to logical conclusions. This was all actually very useful information in computer science, especially when it comes to proving things.

[@Dougy359]

Yeah science is a branch of philosophy. We just restrict ourselves to observation. People who don’t understand this will have a hard time explaining why their data is actually important. A scientist who can’t write is useless. People need to be able to communicate their ideas and if they’re the only ones who know but can’t share because they want to write the absolute minimum then that’s no good.

[@CiXCometOp]

You can differentiate each STEM student focus through philosophy. Lol. Most math and CS majors will find philosophy easy and essential. The same can't be said for engineers. Haha. Slight /s

[@AbandonedVoid]

Theory of computation and computational logic are also philosophy courses that, unsurprisingly, help a lot in computer science

[@misterchubbikins]

I had a class like that. It was also my ethics class. The prof was deaf but could read lips. After I realized she'd respond to shit I silently muttered to myself i began having full class discussions with her without vibrating my vocal chords. In short, the rest of the class only got one half of the conversation and had no idea what I was saying. . . Good times.

[@JV3Player]

It's definitely interesting, however, abstract thinking doesn't help, CS needs some concrete thinking to solve problems. I don't think you're going to philosophize with Python about what should be correct outcome values.

[@pashpashe]

Since "the " is a definite article used to refer to a specific object, the choice of the word "the" also indicates that the forthcoming object is something specific and important to the story. If used in relation to the protagonist, it is something they consider to be unique enough to be separated from the rest of the objects in their life. It could also be a signal to the reader that the forthcoming word is something that would to be universally understood as a unique object or concept. On the other hand, if the word after 'the' is neither specific to the character nor reader, it could be a means for the author to engineer confusion and thus interest in the reader. Regardless of the intention of the author, beginning a story with "the" signals to the reader that the words coming after are worthy of interest and curiosity. In this way, an author can more quickly immerse a reader into their story.

[@nebby947]

damn you're high

[@pashpashe]

@@youtubeviewer2381 Well thanks

[@pashpashe]

@@nebby947 high on natural serotonin 😁

[@canilogin1730]

I FOUND THE WEED DEALER

[@fairycat23]

I hate how well this holds given our limited context. Like we literally don't even get a title from which to predict stuff and you're just killin' it.

[@Wolksvagen-nr1lb]

I somehow managed to ace two literature classes (one English, one Classic) and a Slavic History class as an engineer. My professors were just as clueless to the logic of the universe as I was.

[@Nigel222]

I did a Chemistry degree and it was funny when we were forced to take a Law class and every single student failed as we all thought it was stupid waste of time so the lecturer had to just give us an easy assignment so we could all pass and she said she hated us lol.

[@agathajohannbuenorosa175]

As a guy who likes non STEM classes, as much as the STEM classes themselves, I found this to be funny as hell, the part with the art history class was the one I most identified with

[@alexzanderroberts995]

Soooooo, how many sig figs did you use?

[@ausernameiguess7058]

The literature one spoke to my soul

[@divyanshu3149]

I loved my philosophy class, and the last "Ohkay, I found the weed dealer" had me rolling on the floor.

[@alex1114_]

Same here

[@jacksonletts3724]

I got to take a non-STEM class for the first time (I’m a sophomore in CompEng) just recently and I literally cried tears of joy when I got to write an essay again. I missed them so much from highschool.

[@GymCritical]

“WHO is your weed dealer?” 😂😂😂 (Edit: why is my first comment with over 1K likes about drug distribution)

[@Vex-sn7ne]

“I found the weed dealer”

[@GymCritical]

@@Vex-sn7ne I was making tea pot noises at this point 🤣🤣🤣

[@whoisheiforgothisname2103]

Can I see this chair? Does this chair exist?

[@rujotheone]

🤣

[@hesterclapp9717]

The Philosopher

[@PsychoSavager289]

When I was doing my chemistry degree, I was living with two non-STEM housemates. Our 3rd year presentations were all coming up at the same time, so we practised our talks on each other. I had no problem understanding their talks, usually just pictures of people with a few bullet points and the occasional quote, and I was able to ask some questions (likely amateur-sounding, but I got the gist). I gave my presentation, largely consisting of chemical reactions, graphs, tables and molecular models.... they were lost on the first page.

[@pinkcloud8182]

i have a lot of respect for my STEM friends, and am even getting my masters in a more science based field, but i've noticed a lot of them don't have training with critical thinking, debating, or analyzing arguments, especially when it comes to large blocks of text. it makes me grateful that i was pre-law in undergrad and got my bachelor's in a social science. i have the best of both worlds now :D

[@exotic1405]

True. Engineers will think of a plan that sounds genius, fuck it up so incredibly spending 300% more time than they should have, only to realize the answer was really easy. Atleast it's finished eventually

[@robonator2945]

I wonder if there are like two metastable states for STEM majors or something then because I am and know people who are the 180 degrees opposite. The reason I prefer "STEM" fields (hate that classification but it's good enough) is that through enough arguing and reconceptualization you can always find a single answer which fits all of the criteria while minimizing baseless assumptions. In something like Philsophy alone a theory like the Boltzman brain is completely valid, but when combined with principles of analysis used to create predictive understanding (i.e. : the foundations of the scientific method) it can be ruled out because there is no method by which the external world would continue to behave predictably so reliably. Maybe the difference is in applied and localized engineering? So someone who is given a general problem and has to find a solution knows how to reconceptualize the problem to find new solutions, whereas some people go their entire career already given strict parameters to operate under? Can't say anything for certain other than I've spent cumulative weeks or months arguing with friends over my life so I can say with confidence what you've observed is not unilaterally applicable.

[@exotic1405]

@@robonator2945 I believe he is talking about rhetoric and wit

[@bofa-zi4fj]

2:12 “da fu*k” 💀💀💀

[@denzelgalamgam]

"HuHhh?"

[@brightappiah6327]

Huh?

[@heatherthedutch-american1481]

Who is your weed dealer?

[@jonathanharoun5247]

Educational channel. Says fuck.

[@thomaskhlebovitch6198]

I have rewatched this part three times and it gets better every single time xD

[@ryanalving3785]

"You got an F." "But what is F, if not MA?" And you're the one asking someone else "who's your weed dealer"?

[@coals6262]

Can Force really be force without Mass & Acceleration? Philosophy majors debate or to this day as it’s their 5th time having to take intro to physics.

[@RakkiOfficial]

non-STEM students hearing this be like "ok you and your weird jumble of letters, if it makes sense for you, I guess?? xD"

[@isabellafleury1161]

I’m an art history major and to be completely honest with you that’s kind of how I feel. It’s more interesting to read the textbook than to be in the class

[@rightwingsafetysquad9872]

I liked to use humanities electives as a chance to troll the professors. Telling a philosophy professor that postmodernism is just nihilism with extra steps wrecked him for like a month.

[@musaratjahan7954]

I literally did this whenever I was forced to take humanities electives😂. Flexing on them was a fun way to let off some steam lol

[@TheErikjsm]

see thats not trolling thats more you looking dumb.

[@Ilanon1569]

Yeah sure Jan

[@Ilanon1569]

@@musaratjahan7954 Uh huh

[@MexicanSpinach]

A couple of years ago I had to take Econ 101 alongside my engineering classes, and the first day we were taught "what is a graph and how are they used". I've never rolled my eyes harder than that day.

[@Atlas92936]

So what's a graph? Jk😂

[@ladasodaexplains3355]

And then you get to Econ 301… “Class our first lesson today is going to be about how to use the Lagrangian method to maximize utility…” *WHEN DID I SIGN UP FOR A MATH CLASS*

[@JV3Player]

I actually have a lot of respect for economics majors, understanding the society which revolves around an economy.

[@JosephDT]

I am an engineering major myself. But, fun fact economics has wayyyy more pure maths than engineering. Engineering is just real world approximation of trivial physics models - that are 40 years old

[@athleticnerd8333]

I’m a senior in high school and I took AP macroeconomics and AP microeconomics but I’m also in the highest math class at my school, multivariable calculus and matrix algebra… yeah when we did the graphs lesson us four multivar kids were like “you can’t actually be serious”

[@heroicexecutive2025]

As a STEM student, I LOVED non-stem classes. So easy, so many gray areas to expand with BS I loved it. The only things padding my GPA to graduate above a 3.0. Got a BS degree for a reason :)

[@ryanward5770]

They actually added to your GPA? Must be nice. Forced classes in uninteresting and useless classes dragged my GPA down.

[@Andrew-mg3ib]

@@ryanward5770 Those classes are usually easy A's, much easier than having to memorize several pages of math proofs just so you can understand how an AI works.

[@ryanward5770]

@@Andrew-mg3ib I would probably say the opposite. Most option classes would require memorization while math classes are more about using basic tools you learned.

[@Andrew-mg3ib]

@@ryanward5770 Memorization and problem solving skills at the same time!

[@bloopletank2491]

@@Andrew-mg3ib not even close

[@dogmechanix]

Agreed on art history. A whole lecture was dedicated to Whistler's Mother and the only good part was when the teacher showed a clip of Mr. Bean ruining the painting. Another lecture we broke down some short film where an old lady sits in a chair and repeats something like "for herself, by herself, just a little like herself" or something like that. Can't remember how it went exactly only how I felt.

[@tehreemraza123]

I am an AP Psych lecturer and even though it is officially categorized as a STEM discipline now, students (like computer science majors) just can't wrap their heads around it. I still vividly remember the day we discussed about perceptions and streams of consciousness. It had been a quite enjoyable lecture to say the least.

[@ikapika]

ap psych was probably the easiest ap class i took in HS. cant imagine anyone struggling with it.

[@lurategh]

@@ikapika I'm sure there are people who do. It's good you had an easy time, but people have aptitudes for different things. I breezed through my English classes but knew others who just didn't get it.

[@OnlyTheJoyful_ALT]

@@ikapika haha, I hated AP Psych, and my child psych class is so much fun becuase it's discussions and not memorization

[@tyrannosaurusimperator]

Wait, psych is a STEM field now? Did they also add astrology, divination, and alchemy?

[@tehreemraza123]

@@tyrannosaurusimperator those things have no similarities with Psych. Disciplines like cognitive psychology, neuroscience behavioural analysis and psychometric testing are strongly rooted in objective evidence. Don't make your limited knowledge obvious.

[@HollywoodF1]

As an engineer- let me encourage you younger people to focus on being well rounded. You’ll find that when you’re the engineering expert member of your team, the rest of your team is more interested in your ability to communicate on their level. They hire you more often. You make more money. You have better job security.

[@woozihae]

Ohh now I have a reason to be interested in every subject, lol. Thank you!

[@zuludude2]

There's a difference in being able to communicate and being able to extrapolate the inner thoughts of a 13th century author who wrote the curtains were blue when in reality no one gives a fuck. I've taken some arts classes where you actually learn something like mixing paints, color theory, photoshop/other digital editing. I've taken some history classes where you learn something, like how X idea literally never works, how current events today parallel historical ones and the likely outcomes in the near future if X happens or doesn't happen. The occasional useful class doesn't change the fact that nearly all of the rest are subjective circlejerks where you learn nothing and waste your time and money listening to a stoned asshole who doesn't particularly want to be there.

[@little_pretty_little_dead]

@@zuludude2 couldn't have said it better.

[@blue123456ization]

How are non-STEM classes effective in STEM communication ? Learning History or any humanities subject seems like a gigantic waste of time. In my undergrad i hated all these classes. They made zero sense to me apart from getting the necessary credits

[@lordanonimmo7699]

@@blue123456ization I ask you how the fuck learning history is a waste of time???

[@50Hz]

“What was wrong with my work?” “You didn’t interpret the question correctly” “I answered the question because that’s how it was asked”

[@toothfairy10133]

or the questions that can be answered with three sentences but are worth 12 marks. god im glad im not doing english any more.

[@user-dg3ug7ny5d]

Literally me in terms of every assessment for Health. I almost failed my last assessment I did because I couldn't understand what the teacher wanted, as the marking key didn't even say what you had to include to get full marks. I had to use the description to work it out, and that's how I did so bad. Honestly, it's supposed to be a "relaxing, easy class to take my mind off of the work load".

[@kaankanca4634]

Dude this is NOT only for non-STEM classes. I’ve seen some uni level math questions that were asked so horribly that I thought I had to do an hour of calculations rather than just rewrite a simple definition. I wasn’t the only one who thought that either.

[@Bladerunner5146]

Me with theme or main idea questions like multiple lessons can be taken from things how is it my fault I find a different one than what you want

[@prapanthebachelorette6803]

@@kaankanca4634 relatable

[@carterburpee8499]

I recently changed my major from bio to philosophy because I hated the procedural algorisms all the STEM classes required. They require very little thinking, just a lot of memorization. One thing I will say though, the STEM majors who actually learned how to think out the whole integrated system- say of an animal cell- were far smarter than all the kids who just memorized the equation or diagram to get the grade. Philosophy is fantastic because it is all about the art and the logic by which you support you argument; there is very seldom a true answer. It actually compliments science really well because of this, as well as it backs the thinking of all the humanities. BTW, your LA and SS Profs don't actually mind if you give an altering opinion or conclusion to topics than what they have, as long as you reason your opinion out and check to ensure that you are not using a baseless or false argument or false premise(this is what gets most people) to said argument.

[@genny1814]

Biology is the barest stem class Possible. Ranking goes anatomy, biology, chemistry, physics, math. From most memorization to least memorization.

[@johnzhao4641]

Ultimately human understanding is built upon precise mechanisms that explain phenomena, Philosophy takes the most direct route through the usage of human language, while something like maths utilises a harder-to-comprehend language of mathematics.

[@ivanmk8287]

Take engineering or physics and u would not be saying this…

[@pleasedontlookforme8036]

@@ivanmk8287 physics or math go very well with philosophy. The logical processes link very well. They have a historical relationship as well as the ancient Greeks used to link them.

[@anniedownum451]

See, I am that STEM person. I HATE memorization and I struggle with it, but teach me a concept in a way that I understand, I don't have to memorize a thing. I also understand scientific concepts more than most of the humanities. I loved literature but history is just so boring because there's no concepts, just memorization

[@hyrunnisa997]

I loved most of my other classes except English. I took ballroom dancing and it was 🔥

[@ollicron7397]

I remember it being exactly like this, I was in a japanese literature class, and I remember every time a character did something stupid and the professor asked why the character did that stupid thing, my answer in my head was because they are stupid, but other students seemed to come up with a more reasonable answer that makes sense.

[@aliciacaruso6153]

But yours is the most logical answer 🤠

[@AT-ws9lx]

@@aliciacaruso6153 is "more reasonable" & "makes sense" not logical?

[@CrownePri]

trust me, it's coz they are stupid (the characters)

[@josiahgibbs5697]

I like yours better.

[@ferociousmaliciousghost]

​@@aliciacaruso6153 It could be some sort of conflict with goals or something, but just saying they're stupid is also completely valid.

[@pillandredbased69]

As a great programmer friend of mine once said: "I never studied scientific subjects, I just understood them, all the hours I passed studying at home were for literature and philosophy, u can't escape that" and damn is that relatable (at least for me it is)

[@fluffigverbimmelt]

"I just understood them"? Calling absolute bullshit on that. While, of course, humanities you need to learn more shit by heart and in STEM you learn to understand (and probably practised solving quickly enough). But there's no way you get through STEM by just understanding WITHOUT it taking you countless hours.

[@pillandredbased69]

@@fluffigverbimmelt k, he probably didn't just understand them immediately but they sure took him way less time away than humanitarian studies. Everyone has that particular argument in a subject that they really enjoy and they understand immediately (or with little to no effort), well, this dude is like this for MANY arguments and topics, he really is that smart, people like this do exist

[@EnigmaGameMaster]

This quote is my entire education history summed up in one sentence, amazing!

[@AlphaNinjaFTW1]

@@fluffigverbimmelt I absolutely understand what he was saying though, he was basically making the distinction between just doing work assigned and actual having to spend extra time studying. You see for some people a subject is as simple as going to class and doing homework that's all the time they need to spend on those subjects in order to fully grasp it.

[@9553shadow]

@@fluffigverbimmelt it won't take you countless hours If you are into science. But humanitarian studies just suck in general and will take you way longer.

[@webspec]

On my second semester I messed up and took the wrong class. The professor was very inspiring with an opening speech. Once he got into the topics I realized it was for petroleum engineers. I felt so stupid to leave adter being there half way thru so I stayed. And I had to take notes otherwise it would look weird. I was going to just pretend to take notes but that would be more stupid so I took real notes.

[@smellthel]

FOR REAL. I'm doing a computers program and I just failed my first course ever, which was Business Mathematics. I'm doing great in all my computers courses but all the other requirements are absolutely tanking my GPA. University has been a huge struggle for me since I was used to having teachers breathing down my neck and forcing me to do my work in high school. Compared to high school, I'm doing really bad and something needs to change.

[@atomicgiraffe250]

i was a STEM student and I dunno... going to a non STEM class was actually a refreshing change

[@milhollandandrew]

Same. I’m an engineering major but when presented with the question “what are your favorite classes?”, I always answer history. Not all STEM majors have a hard on for physics and mathematics. In fact most of my classmates are half retarded.

[@atomicgiraffe250]

@@milhollandandrew I was a computing major and I knew students who did not know who Joe Biden or Mike Pence were. Some of these kids were scary ignorant

[@frankchen4229]

@@atomicgiraffe250 i mean if they're just fresh out of high school and the only small amount of free time is devoted to their obsessions with computing can you really blame them for not caring?

[@cara9567]

Yeah I love science and technology but hate maths 🤣

[@TimTYT]

I'm in CS, but I currently have a class about politics and economics and it's actually a lot of fun.

[@hunterkiller1440]

Liberal arts teacher: So studying my subject is a science. I don't think you know what that word means.

[@howardbaxter2514]

Me: Oh, it’s a science alright. It’s a science on how many fucks I give about this class. The answer is none.

[@howardbaxter2514]

In all seriousness though, Intro English classes aren’t too bad, and I actually enjoy learning about history.

[@dragonvarine7553]

@Luís Andrade Liberal arts suggests its generalised, so its not exactly specifying social science. 99% of liberal art subjects arent a science

[@dragonvarine7553]

@Luís Andrade "The intellectual and practical activity encompassing the systematic study of the structure and behaviour of the physical and natural world through observation and experiment.". You dont experiment nor create hypothesis/theories (no not that type of theory) in History. Nor do you study structure or behaviour of the physical world/universe itself. If history is a science then the specific act of me remembering what I ate every day is a science too.

[@hurdan3907]

@Luís Andrade fucking goddem hahaha

[@tiklishgirl]

My major has a weird mixture of STEM and non STEM subjects and my friends are all studying engineering so I alway love laughing at them when they struggle to write long texts or lack reading comprehension, it’s all good fun though and I really love both types of classes

[@sleep458]

which major?

[@melsrandomstuff5565]

I really love your contents and vibe Absolute wholesome shtufff xD You're amazing and HILARIOUS

[@themangastand8475]

As a stem student I actually really cared about these classes. These are the things that can make you more well rounded. Understanding history is extremely vital

[@coals6262]

History yes, couple different math and science courses sure. But why the hell do I need a music or art class for a major unrelated on it and spend a thousand plus dollars on the class tuition and books / online books for homework access etc ? At that point it’s extortion.

[@themangastand8475]

@@coals6262 oh I didnt need that for my degree. I just needed my majour and minor. At least take a couple intro sciences that are outside my field of study, and math. I had to take two english courses. Then the rest was optional. Which I decided to mainly focus on classics, and philosophy

[@alilalani9531]

Yes knowing about the cold war will help you make an AI fucking dumbass 😂😂

[@cptn_chromo3189]

That's what high school is for.

[@notlogical4016]

@@coals6262 same with english, its the exact same class i took in high school...... which were also repeats of eachother

[@aweirdguyforever]

I remember my Japanese history class I took as a STEM student. The TA essentially told us she'd grade our (me and my friends) papers easier because she knew we weren't history majors or something. A little condescending but an A is an A.

[@randomnotimportant9607]

I mean, that's usually how it is at least where I live. If you take an elective Russian class or sth it's a complete and utter joke compared to what the actual Russian majors were doing.

[@kikithepupper6774]

Oh no.. i'd have LOVED that

[@ramengurung9913]

This is why you need the best of both Worlds - both STEM and non STEM

[@arpi6054]

engineering major here and i’m in my element when i’m in non stem classes lol i’ve always loved english and also history so i wish i have more non stem classes in the future to balance out all the stem classes

[@RC32Smiths01]

I am a STEM student in World Literature and Federal Government, and I can say this hurts because it's true.

[@vincentdavis8960]

#metoo

[@HISEROD]

An enemy of literature class is a friend of mine.

[@marvinasas2060]

I have a question. So I am not from the USA and to me this whole system is super weird. Can you explain me why you guys take this weird useless classes? Like why would you do that if you want to become an engineer or something like that? It's just a huge waste of time and money isn't it?

[@HISEROD]

@@marvinasas2060 Yes, it's a big, fat waste; but in short, we take them because they're required for virtually any degree program. My understanding is that these classes exist mainly as a result of the indoctrination of many people. They are told that "well-roundedness" is why these classes are important, and while that may have been partially true a few decades ago, it is becoming less and less applicable to modern life since we have the *massive* internet at our fingertips. The classes are now cemented into degree programs by government requirements for accreditors. If an accreditor isn't approved by the department of education, colleges won't bother contacting that institution for accreditation. Why? Because if the dep. of ed. doesn't approve the accreditor of a college, the students won't be able to receive federal aid. So the reason that the classes stay, based on my limited research, is that the (often) lax government employees in the dep. of ed. are convinced that these silly classes should still be required for an accreditor to be officially recognized or they're just too lazy to make any meaningful changes. If anyone who knows a great deal about this topic would like to correct me, please do. I don't want to mislead anyone if I've made any errors.

[@asadruddin6587]

@@HISEROD Well college is a place of learning isn't it? Aside from colleges making more money if you stay in there longer, you really do come out well rounded. I major in economics and a minor in math yet the chemistry and biology class I took were some of my favorites in school.

[@AidanS99]

When I was in College for MechE I always remembered the non-stem classes as a great time to goof off. During Covid I have fond memories of playing Battlefield with my camera off while my Poly Sci professor spoke about the current political climate. Easiest A of my life.

[@Rittendaux]

Another content discovery that I instantly fell in-love with 😂

[@claymusic2205]

Stem: is my answer correct? Let's calculate and see. Literature: is my answer correct? Mmm yea I like you.. and yea.. I'm feeling it.

[@baerververgaert1308]

Teacher: it's not good enough. Meaning: your rhetorical skills require more work. Perhaps you could improve your phrasing and creative language use.

[@SwordWieldingDuck]

@@baerververgaert1308 or may be teacher just an idiot, which you must be to be a teacher in literature, and can't understand your logical conclusions.

[@HotCrossJuns]

​@@SwordWieldingDuck Calling English teachers idiots while horribly butchering the English language. There's irony in there somewhere

[@abnerdupuis7110]

God help you if you need to justify and articulate why what you found was right. If only there was a way to make evidence based arguments and put them into a thought out, readable presentation. Good thing people in STEM never to write anything. Good thing the subjects in STEM are so simplistic that they can always be successfully navigated without language or argumentation.

[@noahbirthisel3285]

@@abnerdupuis7110 Teachers overwhelmingly come out of the bottom third of their class. Also most upper level math is no longer so simple as to not require some amount of work.

[@reijiriho]

4:20 "seriously, if a 9.0 magnitude earthquake with an epicenter of my ass happened right now it would literally add value to my life. The fact that I haven't jumped out the window should alone win me the Nobel peace prize..." That's it, I'm a new fan ❤️

[@obinnanwakwue5735]

Read this as it came up, lovely

[@Arvl.]

That one caught me off guard

[@wheelhouse15]

I never had an issue in either the STEM side or the arts and social science side. I got A's in all my classes it's just a different way of thinking and applying yourself. I took everything from biology, chemistry, math and computer science to psychology, sociology, English, and philosophy and I usually enjoyed the arts classes more. These days I work as a computer systems analyst but I'm learning more in drawing, painting, and music and really enjoying having a wide range of topics to indulge in.

[@chancerc7523]

Yes! A lot of it is being open-minded or allowing yourself to accept or apply in different content, do you have a differing or additional perception?

[@wheelhouse15]

@@chancerc7523 I've seen a lot of STEM studients both like the ones stereotyped in the video and others who really enjoyed the arts, humanities, and social sciences. I've also seen arts students who were really good in science. One of my friends from high school became a radiologist and he mentioned that the top student in his year of medical school was a former music major. I also was friends with a former music major who was a math genius as well and did a double majored in math and computer science after a music degree and is now a well respected professor in computer science. My general feeling is that you miss out a lot if you don't expand your horizons.

[@hadargidron3411]

omg you summed it up so well... if i have to take one more literature class in my life i'm jumping from a window

[@jakec.1136]

I think it’s usually less about finding the classes boring and more about being frustrated the inconsistency of the class structure. I hated how subjective English classes were, even though I like English

[@m.c.martin]

Depends on your professor. Some will literally not tell you what the author thought or was thinking until after you turn in an assignment. Others won’t let you have fun with assignments and you have to be completely in line with what the author was talking about, even if you have no clue what it can mean. Those professors usually aren’t fun

[@marielaberge8236]

​@@m.c.martin Yeah, those are two different approaches to critically analyzing a text valuing either the reader's experience or the author's intention (since those are two different things that influence meaning). Good professors will introduce you to a broad range of critical approaches found in literary theory, not try to dictate what the One Truth of a text is (hence how subjective and inconsistent the field appears to be)

[@yajjatsekhsaria806]

Philosopher: So how do we know the chair is real? Bell's Theorum: "No, No, He's got a point"

[@boian-inavov]

“What is F?” - basically Fortran 😅

[@gone3394]

I’m a computer science math double major and the only class that actually made me truly want to jump off a cliff and dread every assignment was Art History 325 focusing on surrealism I actually had to drop the class.

[@dynamicdingus7003]

I'm an artist at heart but went into CS cus i didn't want to be homeless, and also want a job that requires me to use my brain. Even if art paid well, I don't like the idea of making art with limitations for someone's specific requests. It's more of a passionate personal thing that brings peace and sense of accomplishment to my life. It allows me to exercise creativity and satisfy my curiosity by exploring with different mediums and even with other art form that I enjoy, such as music and film. I like to think that the logical thinking from cs helps me with my art process and gives me a new perspective to work with, in the same way that art gives me the ability to be more creative with my code. I wonder how my thinking will continue to change as I add more unrelated subjects to the brain portfolio.

[@livc.6761]

“Brain portfolio” I love that phrase and me too!!

[@fatixa6792]

Right? Same here. Real passion is art and literature and yet here i am, in med school

[@cosmor7521]

Me too, I went into Chem Engineering but hope to be a poet anyway

[@bubblegumbp9050]

@@livc.6761 same liked the phrase, nice thought

[@kovici7226]

TOTALLY. that’s my view exactly