Interview with Esoteric Language Academic 2024

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How to create a compiler
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made up programming language
BNF
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Programmer humor
Programming jokes
Programming memes
Computer science concepts 101
Brainfu
Brainf* programming language
Whitespace language
Esoteric
Intercal
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#programming #jokes

[@kailentit]

> Patreon...

[@tigerstallion]

as a programmer, I expect genius level stuff for free 😁 since tech lead lost his wife, youre the funniest nerd on yt. keep it up; I need this humor in my life

[@Jeremyak]

"I have too many computer science degrees to be employable at this point" 😂

[@hospeh]

That one got me.

[@sreedev]

> "has any programmer made anything useful with this?" > yes. > "alright, then its not worth my time" I'm weak lol

[@peterittzes]

I 100% saw that joke coming and it still got me

[@mks-h]

6:10 Now, a Whitespace program embedded into a C program is my new unreasonable phobia. How do I sanitize whitespaces, lol?

[@deathpyre42]

Plot twist, the whitespace program is the only functional aspect of the program, what looks like a c-program isn't actually read by the compiler at all, it exists only as random code meant to space out the whitespaces. So when it comes time to debug it and they see the janky mess of C, they inadvertently irreparably break the whitespace program, and every attempted fix throws out worse and more cryptic errors.

[@Austin-fc5gs]

clang-format

[@raz1572]

write everything on one line and don't use tab, elimiantes 2/3 of the syntax

[@zeustechbr]

@@raz1572 genious, once I saw a game being made under 10 lines, well if you put everything into 1 line it's a one line game ffs hahaha. And the guys in the video were doing exactly that

[@izd4]

formatter on a pre-commit hook

[@hotpil7020]

"Sometimes I take my belt and whip myself. Still better than Java script"

[@TehKarmalizer]

Amen, brother. 🙏

[@Aliceintraining]

not wrong.

[@MelancolicoCatrin]

props on the TempleOS in the background

[@spiteu9272]

RIP Saint Terry

[@burntt999]

As far as I’m concerned this guy is a genius. Plus it takes a shit load of knowledge to not only know about so many different programming topics but to also know how other people view them.

[@NotJustBikes]

Hey! I know that guy from the #masstransit channel.

[@WoolyCow]

avg not just bikes moment

[@iluvsoupers]

Didn't expect to see you here 💀

[@JamesTsividis]

@@iluvsoupers Jason is in the tech industry I think.

[@chri-k]

Now we know it's not just bikes, but esolangs too!

[@Truttle1]

No way not just esolangs???

[@SirFlak]

The Parseltongue killed me 😂

[@Jango1989]

"sometimes I write a malboge program. Sometimes I take a belt out and whip myself; still better than JavaScript." Truer words were never spoken.

[@yt-sweety]

Still better than JavaScript

[@axeman2638]

damn beat me to it.

[@charlieking7600]

Anything better than JokeScript, which was developed for two weeks. And, that's kinda funny, it's earlier name was "Mocha", which is read by native Russians as "piss".

[@j.r.r.tolkien8724]

Your brain was developed for two weeks. Your ancestors missed out on evolution.

[@aafjeyakubu5124]

I lost it right there 🤣

[@hunternegron336]

Facts

[@AdamBosnjakovic]

the "ancient erlang" book in the background is on point

[@NatiiixLP]

I wonder how it differs from "modern erlang". Surely, it can't be worse!

[@cygil1]

But at least one commercial telecom switch was programmed in Erlang. Surely that should be Haskell or ObjectCaml or something.

[@yds6268]

Causally solving the halting problem, I see

[@GSBarlev]

Halting problem is trivially solved-eventually all programs halt due to the heat death of the universe.

[@yds6268]

I made a typo in "casually," but "caudally" fits too

[@dylanclarke9497]

@@GSBarlev jokes on you, all mine halt because I'm a terrible coder

[@ISV_Damocles]

The joke was that the language was designed to not be Turing complete (eg, no recursion, fixed-function looping at best) so it can't be abused in the way he wants (to write a compiler into another esolang) and the fact that an esolang author would write such a language (that can't be abused for other esolangs) is what surprised him and then angered him.

[@drdca8263]

@@ISV_DamoclesA programming language can be such that it simultaneously 1) isn’t Turing complete and the halting problem for it is computable 2) compilers for other languages can be written in it. For example, if the language requires that each program in it includes a proof that it halts on every input, this would make it so that the halting problem for it has the answer “yes”, but this shouldn’t really appreciably limit what languages it can have compilers for,

[@ZapOKill]

"explain it back to me in BNF"

[@mountain3301]

Roughly eBFN, for brevity: ```RESP ::= TRUE | FALSE STR STR ::= { 'a'..'z' | 'A'..'Z' | ' ' }``` E.g.: `FALSE "is fav bool"`

[@RurikLoderr]

The jab at Rust is what really got me... thank you for that.

[@guser436]

Kept a straight face until he said Rust

[@josda1000]

Thank you for putting this out on father's day. Us father-programmers need something to laugh at. Especially javascript.

[@Tasarran]

"This one detects if the program halts..." ..turning back to the keyboard in surprise... "It detects if the program halts?!?"

[@JATmatic]

This one was a golden. :D

[@JohnWittle]

Yeah this one made me pause I was laughing too hard

[@nosuchthing8]

I *think* the joke is that that's not possible if it's Turing complete. So he only has interest in languages that can crash.

[@warpspeedscp]

Nah, it's because that would be the discovery of the millennium. ​@@nosuchthing8

[@ekonomija8718]

​@@nosuchthing8I think it can also be interpreted as the fact that he just stumbled upon _the most useful program possible_ lmao

[@malamhari_]

"If I have to much time, I come up with too many problems." got me

[@MasterSergius]

"The most effective way to waste time" - relates to 90% of modern IT industry

[@XDarkGreyX]

Processes and bureaucracy are the bane of humanity. The dose is usually too high

[@monad_tcp]

JS is the most effective way of wasting time. you could just make a simple HTML and call it a day

[@ellielikesmath]

a triple math phd wanting to work on esolang instead of the hodge conjecture is very accurate. i also would've accepted them wanting to work on their crippling depression and/or their fear of human interaction. lol

[@KingJellyfishII]

"I made this language like 3 languages ago" got me so hard it's very true

[@razac_zr]

> "what is Esolang?" > exactly

[@AlejandroGarcia_elviejo]

ESOteric programming LANGuages

[@johnsmith1953x]

@@AlejandroGarcia_elviejo Is there a list of them somewhere?

[@boner4098]

​@@johnsmith1953x list? What are you, 12? There are ASTs.

[@5cover]

"LLVM? Never heard of it. I use VirtualBox."

[@ChiefBridgeFuser]

As an electrical who understood about half of this with a son-in-law who resembles this character and a son who was rejected from a full-stack javascript job: I approve.❤❤❤

[@andrewyork3869]

Getting rejected from a JS job is a mark of honor.

[@JohnDoe-my5ip]

NodeJS is an abomination

[@miguelguthridge]

The ADHD and autism jokes were such a personal attack

[@The-cyber-imbiber]

Teenagers under the age of 41 -- probably using Rustlang. What has this world come to?

[@alzeNL]

When your late to term on your 1st year of a PhD and the only supervisor willing to take on your research subject wrote an obscure programming language that no one uses and the book costs £95 to learn the basics, yes, thats this man :D

[@tigerstallion]

and he forgets his syntax because he wrote it like 3 languages ago 😆

[@zeckma]

Thanks for bringing Richie Guix back to the show! I'm hoping we'll get to hear from him again about GNU/Linux!

[@ronaldosd]

He actually calls It GNU + Linux 😂

[@lubricustheslippery5028]

Why? When it exists an OS that speaks in tongues

[@yevgeniysimonov5906]

"If I have too much time, I come up with too many problems" - this is genius 🤣

[@joeybuddy96]

That's kind of how maths doctors work. Gotta make more problems than you can solve.

[@unfa00]

I love that Matrix glitch sequence. Having some nice VFX fun I see :) Amazing work! Taking all the pictures for photogrammetry must have been quite a challenge while you keep your hand up like that :D

[@antonliakhovitch8306]

It certainly *looks* like photogrammetry, but I wonder whether it might have been a nerf (which requires a lot less imagery). In any case, photogrammetry isn't too terrible either these days -- just take a video with your phone, and software will automagically grab the best stills.

[@crackwitz]

Idk, likely just was the actor staying still while the camera man moves wildly

[@antonliakhovitch8306]

@@crackwitz It most definitely was not. Those were impossible camera moves (unless they had a robot), and the scene definitely turns into some sort of 3D reconstrut

[@hglankshear]

Without knowing from the inside how an effect is done, you can posit a few options but its hard to know for sure. Here is how I could achieve an effect like that. I would either use - gaussian splatting - nerf - photogrammatry - Single frame camera projection onto a 3D environment with animated camera - some tools can do frame projection with limited animated camera moves automatically

[@linuxcuanthony493]

Richie Guix is my idol.

[@cyberking1128]

Blessed be the uploaders; Programmers are also Human (PBUT). May our minds be opened by their wisdom and our burdens lightened by their humor. Let us rejoice in the unity and fellowship they foster in the hallowed halls of KZbin and beyond. Amen, and may the algorithms ever favor their content.

[@gjsmo]

So I wanted to know how many of the esolangs talked about in this video were were real, and in looking them up I found out that the APL poster on the wall is actually a Deadfish interpreter. So that's fun.

[@GSBarlev]

I'm knee-deep wading through the esolangs wiki rn. *There's a whole dang wiki* of these works of art.

[@thezipcreator]

literally all of them, I've seen them before on the esolangs wiki

[@ped7g]

This channel is secretly documentary channel. Just hiding it under facade of satire, but if you dig into it deeper... there's always truth behind, like JavaScript being horrible.

[@piedpiper1172]

@@ped7gThis channel has taught me, a person who cannot code even a single line in any language, to reflexively hate Java Script and mention that hate any time it comes up in conversation.

[@MatthijsvanDuin]

I still have deep respect for the person who wrote an Unlambda (esoteric pure functional language) interpreter in INTERCAL, and even more for the person which, based on a comment in the source code, found and fixed an integer overflow bug in it.

[@TRDiscordian]

I'm only 1min into this, but as someone who has written a most efficient interpreter for an esolang, and my own language spec, and an interpreter on my Switch for that language, this video seems extremely accurate.

[@johanngambolputty5351]

Took me a while to notice the templeos in the background... nice.

[@Palozon]

The doubletake at the somehow-solved halting problem got a chuckle from me

[@thalber]

i am amazed that they gave this character a vaguely positive character arc. all the other recurring characters only become MORE of a threat to society over time, but this guy - now knows he's autistic - focuses less on bullying people - discusses mass-transit

[@TheOriginalJohnDoe]

"I have too many computer science degrees to be employable at this point"

[@DontAatMe]

"I forgot my syntax. I wrote this language like 3 languages ago." 😂😂 Bro Im dying!! Im not going to pretend I understood everything you said, but the little bit I did understand was absolutely hilarious! I really needed that laugh. You've earned my subscription. Thank you!!!❤

[@krpp]

I was waiting for the APL joke. It was beautiful.

[@chitra___]

Noob here, I didn't get it

[@TeroKeskiValkama]

​@@chitra___, he read it aloud like it was occult script. You can't read it aloud, it's just a bunch of unpronounceable symbols.

[@oserodal2702]

Why does it feel like he would consider Rust an esolang, but hates it because it has real-world usage?

[@DavidPlass]

Because he does.

[@GSBarlev]

The scary thing is I don't think a single one of these esolangs were invented for this video. See: *_Gen Alpha Brainrot_* whose Hello World begins with, as described: sigma _(x8)_ grimaceshake skibidi sigma _(x8)_ rizz gyatt fanumtax skibidi sigma _(x8)_ ohio skibidi...

[@zyansheep]

its beautiful...

[@yds6268]

Gentoo boot menu is Turing complete?!

[@qlum]

You can compile grub with lua support I think or could at some point.

[@zekicay]

Grub's menu system should be turing-complete, it has alu, branches, and with `source` + `normal`, you can even have multiple source files and a call stack.

[@monad_tcp]

grub2 is turing complete, you can source your own script, thus creating an infinite loop

[@A5A5A5A5h]

GRUB has a LISP API IIRC

[@DrunkSnowWhite]

0:11 Plot twist: he's not asking for a Personal System/2 adapter. That's too mainstream. No, he's asking for a PlayStation 2 adapter

[@MelancolicoCatrin]

sigma sigma sigma skibidi... I died here

[@GSBarlev]

A modern update to the SMBC comic about the "most elegant programming language ever created" having been written by twelve year olds: C8==D++

[@NilesBlackX]

@@GSBarlev Can you put a boner array in your butt loop?

[@chattphotos]

There perfect programming languages and those that are used (they do not overlap)

[@davidreghay3629]

Omg, the scoff at the blank paper of printed out whitespace code

[@muxecoid]

I am in a company that has inhouse domain specific langauge, we liked to compare it to intercal. As for adding please that changes the result - this often happens in LLM prompt engineering.

[@tigerstallion]

lol. some dumb PMs are going to start saying you get better results if youre nice to the AI

[@joseduarte9823]

TempleOS on the PC was a nice touch

[@svenstarson1908]

but, can you use the language to mine quinoa-coins? asking for a friend.

[@CompanionCube]

5:19 this actually reminds me of something philosophical; you think you have all the time in the world, until you don‘t have any time left

[@HeatSeekingVelociraptor]

I don't why I never noticed this before, but this character (and a few others) sound exactly like Strong Bad.

[@twobombs]

this is how I feel doing quantum programming. had a lot of fun with this clip. will share with other QC programmers....

[@bluedrack2817]

"It dectect if it halt ?" is the best

[@Caminante-blanco]

This is so great! I literally got to take a class with Chomsky at the UofA

[@Skwisgar2322]

HAHAHA, I was waiting for the white space reference, the printout of it was a perfect joke.

[@AConversationOn]

// Start of main program // Push 'h' ASCII value (104) // Push 'i' ASCII value (105) // Push 'l' ASCII value (108) // Push 'a' ASCII value (97) // Push 'r' ASCII value (114) // Push 'i' ASCII value (105) // Push 'o' ASCII value (111) // Push 'u' ASCII value (117) // Push 's' ASCII value (115) // Push ';' ASCII value (59) // Print the characters on the stack until the stack is empty

[@johanngambolputty5351]

Wouldn't it have to be a dequeue or you're going to pop them out in reverse order for printing? 😜

[@the_dude_josh]

That room decor actually slaps

[@ethanr0x]

That 4:3 laptop though

[@Puschit1]

I am understanding less and less, yet, it somehow becomes even funnier.

[@roboto_]

this is the best one so far

[@PointyHairedJedi]

Pretty sure this is canonically the origin of the Adeptus Mechanichus in WH40k.

[@Pblrzo]

You've got me on "Visually pleasing"

[@gkail6980]

"The esolang space isn't as policed as the academic space. It is policed as the anime space though" - this is a major lol

[@Strykenine]

Thank God for subtitles.

[@robertjenkins6132]

I always have soft subs on, so for this video I had _double subtitles_ - hard subs on top of soft subs.

[@unl0ck998]

The production is amazing, set dressing, everything

[@davidzwitser]

Loved the APL parseltongue. APL’s are the best non-esolang esolangs

[@willmarsman1765]

"Do you happen to have a PS2 adapter for me" LMAO so good right off the bat

[@hikerwolfspaine8200]

Zig mentioned. Alert! Zig mentioned.

[@Cerlancism]

Brainfog is the censored version

[@vacc1001]

THIS IS GOLD. Whoever wrote this, bro, you are a goddamn genius.

[@s1v7]

5:45 "this one can detect if the program halts" - i would be curious to see it as well )))

[@TheDiveO]

"errors are for beginners. we do only undefined behavior"

[@tedtran7855]

This is the most accurate one yet, wow. Especially the body and facial hair lmao

[@75hilmar]

He reminds me of the guy from star trek tng "The Nth degree". The old alien guy with the dreads who doesn't travel the universe, he makes people super smart via space time manipulation so the people come to him

[@marianhreads]

"variables and symbols and all of this bloat" 😂

[@DreySF]

Fckn amazing, 😂 thank you!

[@westbywest]

I'm really liking this documentary channel so cleverly disguised as satire.

[@TechNolaByte]

I love the TempleOS cameo appearance

[@MichaelGraham1980]

Loved the double take on "this one can detect if your program halts"

[@mojeimja]

a little more time and the author solves and fixes Godel's incompleteness :)

[@MrAlanCristhian]

2x COME_FROMs 🤣

[@Ryu-ix8qs]

The whitespace joke got me lol

[@azaleacolburn]

ioccc moment

[@ShadowKestrel]

oh wow this is bringing back some memories. insert meme of 'i should call her' with my old esolangs wiki acc

[@Evilanious]

"It's the journey that matters. The longer, the better." That's gold!

[@neuvocastezero1838]

"Errors are for beginners, we only do 'undefined behavior'".

[@yohaanmaster]

> Write "hello world" in 5d brainfuck with multiverse time travel > Fork statements? what's that > Turing tarpits? my time in the army taught me one thing: it's that tar, tar never changes > Put "esolang dev" on CV > Mfw i become senior product manager at meta

[@rperanen]

As someone interested in compilers this was a blast. Thank you!

[@f1f1s]

I haven’t laughed that hard for years. The ‘SMETANA to Infinity’ made me double up with laughter on the floor for 20 minutes straights. The last time I cried that hard was Stewart Ashen’s ‘Violin (violin)’ review video. This is the best of your videos.

[@SkigBiggler]

Nice increase in production value, looks like they hired a set for this one

[@tinkeringengr]

1:35 "still better than javascript" --- !!!!! hahahahaa

[@franknord4826]

"Now explain it back to me in BNF". I know multiple people who would be starkly offended by that. 😂

[@aichrist]

Thanks for the templeos reference

[@hamsandwich780]

I dont think many people caught the 5d chess with multiverse time travel reference but I appreciate it, a good game

[@LinusBerglund]

This makes me think about that Dan Friedman's 60th birthday video when Oleg Kiselyov had a talk, said something like "... the natural step is of course..." and then had a slide with so many nested call/cc:s that the audience burst out laughing.

[@SuperXzm]

"But the pride remains forever" I died

[@MunnyLerner]

I was waiting for the obligatory APL (or J) reference... I wasn't disappointed

[@jojoanggono3229]

I'm comp sci graduate, found this hilarious...alles gutte...😂👍 He said "out..out..." Reminded me so much of the motorola 68k assembly lecturer, a Prof from Russia. 😂 No offense though to our comrade from Russia

[@bevengersio]

"This one can detect if the program halts. This one can detect if the program halts?" Fav line.

[@xtan-yt]

Richard stall man vibe