Project CARS 2 Gameplay: First Impressions

[@FutureF123]

Who's gonna be the one to tell Ben that pCARS Formula cars probably handle more similarly to F1 cars than codies F1 cars...

[@anvilmarauder318]

If it's a sim, or close to a sim, the formula A car shouldn't really be easy. Your average person wouldn't be able to even keep one on the track, so it makes sense.

[@JDisLimitless]

'As you can see' I need to copyright that 😏

[@hennodebaar1936]

I love how the Engineer can help you with your setup, through some simple Q&A. I am always bad in setting the car up, and I believe this will make the game a more fun expierence for me. I wish the F1 Series would implement this aswell.

[@Blaira89]

@Tiametmarduk -- I reviewed your spin that occurred around 3:16 in your video and you mentioned "I'm not even really sure what I did wrong". I looked at your brake/throttle/steering inputs and it appears you just had liftoff oversteer. Pausing the video and looking at the input: 3:15 - 90 MPH - 0% throttle - 20% brake - turning maybe 30% 3:16 - 73 MPH - 0% throttle - 0% brake - turning maybe 40-50% 3:17 - 70 MPH - 5% throttle - 0% brake - counter correction begins This is a fairly common observation I've made on open wheel racing races, the turn in off power is very good, almost too good, and the back can't follow. Especially when coming out of a brake zone and the weight is shifted forward. As you turn in harder, the car slows down, further shifting the weight around. I would recommend experimenting with trying to apply a small amount of throttle during turn in to settle the car. With most open wheel cars I find feeding a little throttle as turn in begins neutralizes this sort of thing and I can wait to see the exit and put the pedal through the metal! Or just modify the car so it handles to match your driving. Either way, good luck!

[@chikennabugwu2296]

Blair Aitken You actually see that in real F1 I don't remember the race but I remember a commentator saying about the rear end are you serious that much speed your kidding me, (imitating the rear end)

[@Blaira89]

@Obione Thank you for the response. My apologies, I don't fully understand your quote of the commentator. Are you stating they showed real F1 drivers performing a similar mistake and causing a spin? It's important to note that the speeds that @Tiametmarduk was traveling when he lost is was

[@jpracing893]

one thing I've noticed with project cars 2 is that the GT3, GT4, old race cars and stuff like that are really good. But F1 cars are a lot more challenging to drive fast compared to F1 2016.

[@AMWULF]

Joe Pinder there's probably less attention to detail on the F1 cars because of licensing.

[@inigo_anton33]

AMWULF GAMING yeah that quite true

[@RacingAtHome]

Most of the older cars were slid around through corners. On PC1, there was an issue with sliding cars that's now been changed.

[@flatsix9400]

"F1 cars are a little to difficult", you mean they're not as easy to drive as in the F1 games? F1 cars aren't easy to drive, I mean TC off in F1 2016 isn't even a thing,...

[@sgtepicspeed3033]

PorscheAG 930TurboS Yep, not as easy as the Codemasters F1 games.

[@Ryan97NZ]

Oh dear..

[@jameshodson9999]

NzLRyaNLzN this video is fucking shit

[@welshblade5451]

yep looks disappointing . f1 cars dont lose grip half way around a corner with no throttle

[@macorn007]

Oh a dear. OH DEAR

[@MrHilary47]

WELSHBLADE Well yes they actually can. Could be due to not enough rear wing, suspension causing oversteer. Just because Ben plays F1 codemasters games all the time doesn't mean that the correctly simulate F1 car physics correctly.

[@xPiGeOnNiNjA]

WELSHBLADE Lift-off oversteer is actually a thing though

[@zacharyford1228]

Ben, Turn 1 at The Glen is called The Ninety. Turns 2,3 and 4 are the Esses. After that is the Bus Stop Chicane then the carousel heading into the cot. Then you finish the lap with turns 10 and 11

[@PPedroFernandes]

Is it just me, or does ben think driving an F1 car is easy? Srly?

[@alwynmalan1]

coxy in other words arcade f1 games

[@hash_sim4286]

Nope, AMS and RF2 has it all over AC and IR is worse of the bunch physics wise......

[@SpeCifiC0507]

Phil Did you just compare F1 2016 to that of IRacing/Assetto Corsa? Oi....you compared a title developed by Codemasters, infamous for Dirt 3/4 and games like the Grid series. I.E You essentially compared a developer who specializes and are famous for Arcade games. Sorry, but you lost all credibility and opinion too for that comparison. What makes it worse is that Project Cars has a SIM background, containing employees from games like GTR2. Sorry but, bright you are not and a clue is what you need to have before you try and at the very least "act" like you know what you're talking about.

[@mase002]

SpeCifiC0507 though true, try not to sound so triggered next time.

[@briarios666]

SpeCifiC0507 🤣😂 please don't tell me when you used gtr2 you are referring to Gran Turismo 2 ???. If you are and believe that and project cars are sims that laughable 🤦. They may have sim backgrounds but there far from it

[@SestoEIemento]

At least this isn't as cringy as a Fifa KZbinr switching to F1..

[@blue_scorpio_88]

How is that cringey? Is a FIFA KZbinr just supposed to play FIFA all the time. Fucking idiot.

[@xChillOutHDx]

hahahahha who did that

[@StanceTheoryBro]

in4info

[@jonnym610]

Lupo who did that?

[@jonnym610]

Bastiaan Boontjes???

[@mattdobz]

Losing the rear at speed is caused by a lack of load from turning under heavy braking or too severe a weight transfer, braking further sends the weight forward. Unless the car has ABS, left foot brake to lock/reduce grip on the front wheels whilst accelerating to keep the load towards the rear until the car snaps back into a straight line.

[@JakePetrolhead]

Aside from the derpy recovering McLaren, the AI is a definite improvement over the first game,and I'm glad you've looked into sportscar Racing, it was the strongest aspect of the first game. How are the single seater collision physics? There were times in the first game where there would be slight taps and yet somehow one of the cars would end up upside down

[@camcambambam5128]

uping your deceleration will help with back end, also avoid braking if your loading up one side of the car, a more frontal brake bias should help as well

[@RDMracer]

Try the indyars, those are also quite similar to the F1 cars you are used to. Keep in mind the downforce works best in a straight line, so the effect is best on turn in and goes off when rotation increases. This means that the back end will rotate too quickly and lose downforce if you turn in too quickly. Also, the auto-blip is poorly calibrated so you will get drivetrain shocks on downshifts. When oversteering keep corrections very tiny, the base of the rear wing will also keep the car straight so it is very easy to overcorrect.

[@danoontjepauper4104]

Hey Ben, are the IndyCars in the preview build, and if so, could you make a video with them?

[@TheGoprokid22]

I played project cars 2 at goodwood and it felt soooo much better than the first game

[@James-od4cz]

For any Pcars one fans just look at 5:52 The cars actually have physics in the air and are effected by gravity. I'm sold on Pcars 2 The big Italian names plus Porsche combined with loads more tracks, ovals, an online matchmaking service and rally cross!

[@_clemens_]

Does it have also the realisitc skew steering wheel damage model like PC1? #Vettel #Hungaroring

[@SkyForceOne2]

+Clemens s. they might add that, but since it's a preview build, i dont think that they currently have it in.

[@josephnewman713]

If I remember right you needed to run a different degrees of rotation for the wheel when driving the Formula cars.

[@williamgraves8122]

One thing I would love to see is a comparison of pit stops between different motor sport disciplines

[@johnnyboy3949]

How many restarts did you do for your first race? Are we talking xmattyg numbers?

[@johnnyboy3949]

Just call the engineer Jeff, we all call every engineer on every racing game Jeff now. And if you say you don't you're lying.

[@nickedgeworth1]

I know this is 4yrs later but I had this problem initially until I adjusted the steering bias and opening up the differential in setup for FA cars. Now it feels just like F1 2020 with added force feedback!!

[@akmal94ibrahim]

You should do one with the damages on. Just to see how much have they improved on the collision system and also the graphics of damages.

[@huntermcrobie7540]

How is the handling model vs games like Assetto Corsa or iracing?

[@OneTeeGlory]

Hunter McRobie "If feels like Project Cars 1 but more refined" was a quote from the video.

[@HandlesSuck123]

Hunter McRobie It's on par to AC, judging from ISR, and other youtubers. Ben just sucks.

[@WavveBoi]

URsuckishATlife if it's on par with AC we are in fucking business. I just reinstalled project cars again last night and uninstalled before I finished a lap at Bathurst.

[@niklassilen4313]

The default setup is made for pad controller users. This explains the rather sluggish steering of the Formula A car in your video. It's a simple matter of tweaking the Steering Ratio, a single setup tweak, very easy to do. As for your struggles with the car, I don't really know what you are doing wrong. I suggest giving the rear a bit more camber, so that the front to rear camber difference is smaller. I suspect the default setup for the Formula A car is one that hasn't been tweaked/polished yet as it really does look like a true handful. Then again, a Formula 1 car isn't supposed to be easy to drive. This is not Codemasters F1 series.

[@bilbo2k45]

Ben, you can lift into the first part of the uphill s section and then go flat out through the second part to get a much better run

[@alijohnston1598]

Sometimes the steering ratio can help, also with starts, put it in gear before the lights go green, should help with the standing starts

[@abelooi2442]

Please also do races with changeable weather (i.e. clear to rain to clear), snow, indycar, compare rallycross to dirt 4

[@ChrisClark31415]

I was doing career mode on project cars and took part in an invitational BMW race. No matter what I did, it would start raining at about half-way through the second lap. I had to start taking it really easy into turns but the AI cars just drove flat out. I just did my best and powered through after about 20 attempts of driving on what was similar to ice. Then I did an invitational race with Porches and the same thing happened. The AI cars were not affected by the rain while driving on slicks, but my car was all over the place.

[@axeljacquemet7534]

Seems your lack of rear grip wasn't coming from the wing, but more from the differential in deceleration, looks way too high so it's locking the rears when you're downshifting/off throttle. Also you can totally change the steering ratio

[@RedlineRossi]

Could You please give some insight into the force feedback in the next video Please? Thanks!

[@KrinerMLB]

I live in the United States and have been to waltkins glen me an my family drove around the track

[@gizzyuk710]

I suggest playing around with the FFB settings there is 3 presets to choose from that all give you a different feeling and you can also do a custom one if preferred

[@thekie25]

I'm looking forward to playing this and start working on setups for people, glad you seem more positive this time, I enjoyed the 1st game so I'm sure I'll like this 😀 maybe see you on track 🚗💨

[@dielegende9141]

PLEASE DON'T STOP PROJECT CARS 2 AFTER JUST 10 EPISODES

[@DovahKanye]

"If you're driving badly, blame the setup." Is that why Verstappen drove like an amateur at Hungary?

[@joeleo3814]

Can you carry on with the 'tv/replay cam' stream along side the first person gameplay please

[@MarkamusHD]

Are there a lot more cars than in Project cars 1?

[@dielegende9141]

Markamus yep, twice as many cars

[@BenRankin]

Markamus over 180

[@WhosNuMB]

Markamus Waaaaaaay more than PC1

[@inigo_anton33]

In the original there was only about 80+ so this is a huge upgrade

[@gizzyuk710]

Yeah Ferrari Lambo and Porsche and Nissan are just some that got added

[@pizzalord1988]

Looks great always good to see new racing games on this channel.

[@jonnypinder7745]

What Graphics settings was this on? It looks like they've toned back some of the effects that were on PC1

[@kevincrayton9054]

I appreciate that you at least gave this game a chance. And learn more about setups, I think it will really help you.

[@howgudami]

Can you confirm if there is any difference between the GT3 and GT3 endurance car variants? they look identical visually...?

[@OneTeeGlory]

Maybe test out the full sim damage? Because the first game is unbelievably forgiving and I'd like to know if its more harsh and realistic this time round.

[@steinyy923]

I tried the GP3 Ferrari and i liked the handling of the car but whenever i go to another track it is slower than molasses on a summer day

[@AlbatraozProductions]

Is the back end more planted in a GT3 compared to a Formula A? Seams about right.

[@captaincondescending]

Ben, you'll find judging corner entry speed much easier if you lower the FOV.. like quite a lot... Try 60°. I know you want a bit of side to side awareness, but you'll be able to judge where you are on the track so much better it probably wouldn't matter anyway.

[@reverseshotgun721]

AC's F1 cars are really twitchy due to torque too, if I remember rightly.

[@xracer5995]

Great video mate, love your channel 👍👍👍

[@jamesjordan4955]

Please try Indycars at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway.

[@minimclaren14alo56]

Is it worth buying this if you already have Project Cars 1? I don't think I want to spend $180 on games. Project Cars 2, Forza 7, and F1 2017. I'll probably wait for the other 2 to get cheap. F1 2017 I'll buy on release day.

[@tobyhoward8736]

MiniMcLaren14 #ALO I wouldn't buy it, I was going to because Indy cars in the game and thought it be fun but after watching this vid it's not much different to the first game so I'm not gonna bother getting it until it's cheaper

[@primeministerprinz2695]

if you have pc1 on steam you get pc2 for a discount. Personally i would get pc2 because it has major improvements not just in the car list but everything. I already preordered the deluxe edition.

[@ark14700]

+Toby Howard you probably need to research more than one vid of an early build of a guy's first time to judge the game. Could be that the Formula A cars are fantasy and don't have real world data to model, so see how people think of the physics on the other cars.

[@tobyhoward8736]

ark13700 no I mean in general it just seems the same tbh so not gonna waste £50 on it

[@tyrelledavenport106]

Watches a 15 minute video to justify a game not being good......not good thinking.

[@simcadeautosport4400]

@Tiametmarduk In Formula A, Turn your Limited Declaration Differential down, That will stabilize you under braking.

[@fillsgarage]

Great video. Do You use a steering wheel and if so which do you recommend for PS4.?

[@jakeproctor6952]

I love your videos ben, but you didnt show any new features (major ones). Can we have footage of new tracks/time/weather/modes? Thanks!

[@ManyThingsYT]

Tiametmarduk I have enjoyed your videos and would to see you do more blogs because they are entertaining.

[@ShipMonster]

I’ll admit I haven’t done much research on Pcars 2 but I seriously hope they fixed their bugs. Pcars would constantly freeze, drop feedback, and the online game play required everyone to exit the room to change tracks. The feedback drop was the worst, it would happen almost every time I played, and Pcars is the only one game that does it to my T300. Anyone know if they’ve resolved these issues?

[@karlgunnergrover14]

Enjoyed the first impressions thanks for being so honest 👍👏

[@theonyxace4946]

Try the IndyCars haven't seen them in the camera angles you uses for this video

[@vyzion3089]

About the backend of the FA it's maybe the stability of the car on braking, I had problem with many cars on this point, and maybe the setup isn't predone yet because of the early acces?

[@chikennabugwu2296]

Will you do your old career on this game. Start from karts end in Formula A or X or Indy cars.

[@JaySilva88]

Reviewing the footage of this video I can clearly see why you lose the back end of the car: first your racing line is bad; second you enter the corner too fast; third AND MOST IMPORTANT, the last spin you can clearly see it started when you suddenly gave half gas. You sir, need to learn how to drive.

[@elliswarmington9886]

Jaime Almeida he is one of the best f1 players in AUS he is just not used to this game

[@JaySilva88]

I understand it's a new game and it might not be perfect. But saying he doesn't know what's wrong when he clearly hit hard the gas pedal...might be other issue, but he should try entering the corner slower with 1/3 gas and keep a steady foot instead of yanking that shit to 1/2 middle corner.

[@xMithras]

I'm a horrible driver but even I know that giving half throttle while in full steering lock mid corner with an FA car is going to break out the rear... Damn this just shows Ben is an arcade racer

[@TheCameltotem]

No way he can be the best F1 player? He don't even know what the racing line is, if that's true I gotta pick up F1 lol.

[@GTDGAMINGTILLDEATH]

I am the best guy's.. chill

[@TotoDG]

Do an Indycar race at Indianapolis Motor Speedway. You did so for Forza 6 because of Fernando Alonso's attempt. Very much would like to see that again.

[@brandenparkes5881]

Quick question, in the pit stops is there pit crew or is there ghosts repairing the car?

[@Yaz27]

Branden Parkes there is a pit crew. It also differs between motorsport regulations, so that means not all pitstops take the same amount

[@brandenparkes5881]

YRS2703 awesome thanks for the info! 😊

[@brendanv4286]

Ben are you going to be getting a preview build of F1 2017?

[@Tiametmarduk]

Brendan V I have no idea at this point haha. Fingers crossed

[@Bappo7]

Check out the damage model where in project cars 1 just stopped when you hit the road

[@patrickcarlotti7790]

I need an advise about PCars 2 : as i have a ps4 and an alienware alpha, on which of these machines is it better to buy it ? Thanks in advance

[@akmal94ibrahim]

I always have trouble with that corner in Silverstone, even in a GT car.

[@ianpeterson693]

Ben, you should do IndyCar at Texas Motor Speedway!

[@gizzyuk710]

People need to realise that this game still has well over a month till launch. Also from what the others have said that have access to the builds they are aware of the AI issues and are currently in a bug fixing stage of the game and it will get sorted. From what i have heard from guys that get to play every build is its massively improved over the first game the handling and FFB will feel different cause the added tyre flex system. I suggest watching beetleJuice and Mrsteepjockey for some great PC2 content

[@daweitao2668]

Agreed on those 2 other youtube channels. I especially enjoy BeetleJuice's stuff, he's got some intense races on there. After watching those 2 and then this guy I feel it is clear the problem here is not the physics but rather the driver I'm afraid.

[@ogechiteixeira1853]

the AI has special awareness? aww...I was looking forward to seeing WTF1 playing if... :P

[@LamboPlays]

Ogechi Teixeira special awareness?

[@allanjrfernandez1874]

Please no it will be an ear rape series

[@RacingAtHome]

*drives far too quickly into a corner and hits AI* OMFG WHY IS THE AI SO FUCKING SHIT!

[@MadAlPlays]

He said Spatial awareness... not special...

[@justinm.1]

I wonder if Project Cars 2 would make xMattyG rage just as much as the first game

[@Monty1887]

the formula a car really needed a very specific setup to work properly in pcars 1 so assuming they haven't changed much in that regard.

[@georgecrompton6186]

I like watching you play this game, keep it up Marduk🔥

[@alisteryoong6564]

I played this game in Jan so it might have changed but try and move the brake bias to the front for a better rear under braking

[@sd316gaming2]

Shoutout to Austin Ogonoski and Sevirin Austerschmidt for testing and adding community feedback to the game as well.

[@SirGingerOfKnight]

I saw the nudge and was expecting the usual hand in the air!

[@Sybe]

In PC1 you could change the steering response in the setup, I don't know if its the same on PC2

[@Route32rg]

Need more practice and more importantly Tire pressure was uneven. The pressure should be the same across all tires once heated. If not adjust accordingly.

[@benrobinson4516]

Your target should be to do the triple crown but starting in karts when you do career it would be quite cool doing endurance Indy car and f1

[@xMithras]

"I'm confused as to why the AI is so much faster off the line." Well maybe it is because you decided to throw in a buttload of fuel for some reason? This video just has "I don't like this game so I'm not even going to try to comprehend it" all over it, while clearly you're at fault all the time.

[@PPedroFernandes]

Can you please turn the damage on and crash on purpose? The damage was so shit on the first one... I wanna see how that's improved

[@RacingAtHome]

"This feels like what we should have had in the first game?" Wow. Such insight. Incredible. An improved version would have been much preferred over the first game obviously.

[@BojanKrkic87]

How do you get early access? I would like to play it as well

[@dielegende9141]

I have to correct you about pCars1 AI: They didn't totally ignore, sometimes it seemed as if they knew you were there and then they would just go straight through the next corner without giving a fuck about track limits

[@gamingforfun9000]

Can you create custom championship, for example if i wanted to make Formula A championship on the tracks i want. That was big missing feature in last game.

[@Maenfy]

Gaming Videos Yes you can this time.

[@rajwinderparmar6578]

Ben I love your content and want to see some more. Can you try playing Forza Motorsport 7 on release?

[@vincentbruins8320]

I have played the early access of Project CARS 2. More tracks, more cars, more multi class options, way more real paint schemes. It's the perfect game for me. Also the handling and physics have been improved massively. The physics of the first game were fine, until you got sideways, then physics weren't that realistic. After many of the bugs in Project CARS were fixed, I've been enjoying it a lot since. I'm not sick of it at all, like I have with most Forza games after a few months. I keep coming back and I keep having great races and Project CARS 2 is a huge improvement. I didn't have a lot of faith in it at first, because of the way they handled their first game, but wow... PCARS 2 is simply epic. There are a few little bugs and lags here and there, but I think it'll be fixed before launch.

[@simonemele9542]

Is It only my impression, that for make corners it needs too angle of wheel?

[@Ryan-bk7kx]

Should I preorder it? It's on sale 17% but I'm not sure

[@ryanwhite9103]

can you adjust the fov settings from the pause menu this time ?

[@donathon680]

You lose the backend because you don't lift when changing gear. The starts are bad because I'm guessing you don't use the clutch properly

[@jdmikeg4]

6:00 Tha AI has improved...by driving into the racing line after spin!

[@42gilligan]

Yea looks like you're cranking that wheel and hardly turning. Keep messing with your tunes until you get comfy man. Your racing knowledge is pretty solid, kudos! I can not wait to try this game with my new t150 pro!

[@fortniteharrykane9210]

When will you continue your Dirt 4 career mode?

[@davidvarga5010]

Will you do videos on gt sport?

[@timzy4395]

Try one with an indycar, Honda or Chevrolet, around the indianaplois motor speedway The formula x car looks a lot more like the 2018 indycar than an unlikely looking 2018 F1 car

[@RAZOR12334]

Can I use my ps4 controller for this game or I need to have that driving chair thing.

[@Maenfy]

RAZOR12334 Sure you can.

[@huncholucho]

Ben, what wheel do you recommend?

[@Candyman-bo2oi]

Question: Is there split-screen and local multiplayer?

[@silgersen]

Probably not, but that's just what I think

[@Candyman-bo2oi]

Alright. Thanks.

[@lbll4185]

Could you pls drive some LMP1 races? Le Mans would be cool aswell ^^