Why did EA Kill Project CARS?

Racing simulation and driving game series Project CARS is dead. A new game was in the works, but owners Electronic Arts has cancelled development. Here's why it didn't fit within EA's current portfolio.
The Project CARS series, that delivered two simulation titles and one arcade racer, first released an entry in 2015 after a period of crowd funding. Project CARS 3 was a bit of a damp squib in comparison, some five years later, but this title alone isn't what killed off the series and forced the Slightly Mad Studios team to either find new roles with in EA or look elsewhere.
Project CARS 4 was set to be a return to the sim racing fold, but it will never see the light of day. Here we run through a brief history of the series and why we think it met an untimely demise.
The Project CARS series is dead, killed by EA November 2022: traxion.gg/report-the-project...
Project CARS GO cancelled, Ian Bell leaves Slightly Mad Studios: traxion.gg/project-cars-go-ca...
Project CARS 4 could be ‘awesome’ according to former CEO: traxion.gg/project-cars-4-cou...
Original Project CARS creator trying to re-hire EA team: traxion.gg/original-project-c...
EA dropping Project CARS: www.gamesindustry.biz/ea-drop...
00:00 Project CARS has been killed
00:53 Project CARS' origins
02:12 Project CARS launches
02:53 Project CARS 2
03:29 Project CARS 3
04:21 Fast & Furious Crossroads
04:31 Codemasters purchases SMS
04:47 EA purchases Codemasters
05:13 Project CARS 4
05:39 Damaged brand
06:24 Picking the best bits
07:07 Licenced or open-world
07:39 Live services
08:48 How F1 has evolved
09:22 Esports potential
09:40 The team's future
10:00 Automobilista 2
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[@TraxionGG]

Why do you think the Project CARS series will no longer exist? Let us know in the comments below!

[@MV76]

The semi arcade third chapter killed the franchise when sim racing was booming. Too bad, PC2 was great for that time and PC3 could have been be the PC king sim racing game against a not optimized RF2 and a GT3-4 only ACC.

[@zzmrpicklezz798]

Because EA can't live with taking risks anymore. If it doesn't make money for sure, EA isn't interested

[@ruddgrandprix-speedrunraci8515]

Makes me hate Electronic Arts even more. And that's final. Even with the release of Need for Speed Unbound. There's No cure reversing it. it's fate already sealed beforehand. There will be no more post-Rivals and HP 2010 modern EA game in my library. Because the continue is unbridled hate for Andrew Wilson this Everlasting.

[@ruddgrandprix-speedrunraci8515]

But then again they're not interest of project cars. Be only if its eyes on big licenses and open-world aspects and Live Services. but still. I hate EA.

[@SpatialDragon]

Ian Bell and his way over the top declarations about the best ever...

[@flyingphoenix113]

It's a shame that EA kills everything it touches. The moment that they bought Codemasters, I knew it was over. EA is going to need to endure billions in losses before anything changes.

[@beaglegod1]

Such a shame, as this publisher gobbles up all these titles. They will put their mark on everything and apply their greedy business model to each and every title that survives. Soon there will be nothing left but good memories of the time you could pay 50-60 dollars and get a really good racing game.

[@flyingphoenix113]

@@beaglegod1, franchise after franchise. I was a massive MOH player and Battlefield player, and I haven't played either title in years (and, after the failure of 2042, the Battlefield franchise might also be on death's door). Don't even get me started on what's happened to Need for Speed.

[@kezman82a]

@@flyingphoenix113 Word

[@hawken796]

@@flyingphoenix113 But Heat was great tho

[@Hellhammer1980]

Just what EA did with star wars years ago, battlefront 1 and 2 was a joke

[@TomLehockySVK]

I never heard EA actually CREATING a studio, only closing down and canceling stuff.

[@NeverLucky1765]

Ea redwood shore was there own home grown studio that would later go on to be visceral games, but sadly ea even gutted its own child.

[@Derivedwhale45]

Oh they created some new studios here & there like Respawn, you're just live under a rock

[@V3ntilator]

They kind of did since EA made a lot of games in 1980's before purchasing developers. EA even made the legendary freehand painting program series Deluxe Paint on Amiga which also set the standard on Amiga.

[@yrrr4871]

First the Shift games and now Project Cars!? EA must really hate Slightly Mad Studios

[@socksonfeet8125]

Yea I think someone has a vendetta against Bell :/

[@thomasyip1925]

I think EA dislikes Slightly Mad Studios partnershiping with Bandai Namco. Causing EA immediately buy Codemasters to avoid a constant loss

[@Derivedwhale45]

​​@@socksonfeet8125rightfully so cause he was a scam artist

[@nickbauerly5438]

My guess is EA wants to take pay-to-race where iRacing went. Not only do you have to pay for the game itself, but also pay for anything else you want in the game.

[@HotRodRacer463]

This is a massive loss since Project Cars is one of the few racing sims I could relate to, and I always had so much fun playing it. Unlike newer racing sims including GT7, which have become so technically complicated, thus have very limited access and lack of freedom in gameplay, Project Cars 2 was a sim that knew what it was trying to be. It may not have been the most realistic of sims, but it was simulator enough that sim racers, including more casual players such as myself could appreciate the game and the content itself, which shows it was a game for die hard race fans, made by die hard race fans. I love how it includes a lot of iconic cars from the Gran Turismo franchise, the multi-class system, the in-depth setup menus, and being able to fully simulate endurance races, drive on your favourite tracks, drive in your cars, having the option to watch the racing and enjoy a full motorsport experience. This game was a real gem and it’s a shame they’ve axed it after just 5 years, which is a worrying sign for future games which could have very short life spans! PC2 was by far the best in the series and will be sadly missed...

[@gerardvreeswijk840]

Can relate to this post 😥👍

[@Lewuaptedama]

Its so sad that this happened. It was my favourite sim/simcade game as a console user. Decent variety and good framerates and very little crashes.

[@Lewuaptedama]

Crashes of the software*😂

[@ThomasHarrisonLord]

Agreed, I'm sad too :(

[@130Racing]

haha, the Clio at Donington was a death trap. I remember trying to enter the Renault Project Cars 2 championship and the physics were so weird no-one bothered completing a lap. The Project Cars 1 test track (which never made the final game) was like a real life fun Milbrook Proving Grounds.

[@TheFurryInShambles]

I thought it was pretty easy, I just had to approach the car differently since it was a FF car after all, but that's pretty much it.

[@JustinWoo]

Shiiiit so it wasn't just me eh?

[@Bolkiebasher]

Project Cars killed themselves by making Project Cars 3 an arcade racer instead of a sim-cade racer. Stupid decision. Project Cars had a small but loyal fan base. Project Cars 3 should have been released as a new IP. (Edit: changed name to IP)

[@canadiankrispybacon1450]

PC3 was the last nail for sure..but don’t fool yourself..it’s downfall, start with the original PC…they broke promises, left a broken game…then when they were shaking knowing that they we’re going to bail on PC2 months into its release..to calm everyone they said they they we’re going to to fix the issues with PC in PC2 release..again, more promises…ending up with broken promises It’s a sim, because they we’re to pioneers for console sim…and they fuk’d it all up, dragging us with them ..but rest assured IB & Co made a mint! They grabbed all the cash from EA..

[@Zbgaming23]

@@canadiankrispybacon1450 my question to ea WHY DELIST THE TWO BEST GAMES but not pc 3

[@canadiankrispybacon1450]

@@Zbgaming23 I have PC 1 and 2, 1 seems to run for me but 2…shows as a purchase, but I am not able to run it..and can’t re-install as it’s greyed out…SMS crowd funded in the 100’s of millions..they all walked away rich and we got screwed…3 was just blasphemy imho and they just released their version of NFS… As I mentioned, I believe they were really into something..back in 2016, especially for console…they were IT! It was amazing…and I put thousands of hours into it…picking up the Day In The Life trophy! Ultra rare. However, then after releasing a broken “sim” they all went on a exclusive and posh skiing trip, bragging about it…how they deserved it…I dunno collecting half billion Euros in crowd funding…it just seemed premature and unnecessary…and most of all extremely disrespectful…but hey it was just a sign of things to come from Ian Bell and his team of bullies..who treated anyone who dared to bring up obvious bugs that they would either ban or bully by proxy until you left the forms …so toxic…and well, we all know the end result…they didn’t want any bad press, wanted to keep the millions rolling in to keep their luxurious life styles going…with our money. Personally, I don’t know how they all can sleep at night 🤔

[@mikep11218]

@@canadiankrispybacon1450 So you bought PC2, but can't play it anymore on Steam? What? That should be illegal.

[@stickyglue8083]

EA always killing some of my favorite games: Sim City, Ultima, Command and Conquer games, Neverwinter Nights and now PC. This will never stop 😞

[@canadiankrispybacon1450]

Wait a minute…the Devs had something to do with its failure..they sucked on EAs teat until it was dry and ran for the hills…we get f’d as a result..100’s of millions..half billion+ 🤔

[@gordonshumway888]

I was also a fan of NWN. For me it was one of the best computer games ever made. It had a game world editor, more powerful than an editor of such a good open world game series like Arma. NWN's editor allowed to create terrains, place objects, write scripts... It allowed to create own worlds inside just a single game. And now all this is history. This is very strange.

[@Muhammad-lq7fu]

They killed PC?? HOW I am supposed to play my games now 😠😭

[@bbbbBEOTCH]

people hated on pc2 esp the big sim racing channels it took alot to dial in but had some really good cars...the indy at the horse thief mile was alot of fun...had to take care of the tires

[@TheFurryInShambles]

A lot that hated PC2 just honestly can't admit they wanted the physics to be like GT and Forza and were upset you actually have to approach certain car classes and car disciplines differently from one another and just blamed the studio and game for their bad skills lol

[@nickbauerly5438]

PC2 wasn't without faults. I remember doing a tyre test with Formula Renault. I ran the tyres all the way down, and not even a blown tyre because of it.

[@gerardvreeswijk840]

@@TheFurryInShamblesThat is what I always thought too 😜👍

[@afdelta0120]

EA: Can we live service this? Dev:Well it dep- EA:CANCEL IT NOT ENOUGH MICROTRANSACTIO S

[@ZapperRS]

Loved the series when I was younger, sad to see it downfall like this :(

[@JITISH1]

Sad to see it go. Hoped EA wouldve rather combined to eventually bring back the NFS Shift line as their Sim racing focused game. How is it that EA could not see a way to generate revenue through leagues, dlcs, cars, it had potential to become a fancy iRacing if executed out in the long term. Glad I own Project CARS 1 and Project CARS 2.

[@roverboy1687]

I wished SMS had made a dedicated rally sim as the rally cross and driving on loose surface was amazing and tarmac while not perfect was light years ahead of anything dirt could achieve 😩

[@nickbauerly5438]

PC2 was my first experience with RX, and I fell in love with it. You're right on about the different surfaces. Both levels of RX cars were a blast to drive IMO. These cars were even fun in the ice/snow.

[@lordfatcock]

I don't think you have ever played Richard burns rally before. Not a sms/ea game.

[@MikoyanGurevichMiG21]

@@lordfatcock Speaking of rallying, EA buying Codemasters is the final nail in the coffin for the DIRT series. Dirt Rally 2.0 might have been their last hurrah as well.

[@GUN69_]

I follow this channel for some time and I have to admit - the best video so far! Very good job. Nicely presented, good commentary and reasonable approach towards Project Cars (which got lots of hate among hardcore sim racers). It is a shame it ended up like that. Project Cars 3 has been a massive mistake. PC1 and PC2 had great potential and Reiza shows that there is lots of there to sqeeze out of the Madness engine.

[@TraxionGG]

Thank you! We appreciate the love.

[@Puntatacosimuladores]

I hope Reiza get the madness assets from EA and maybe even hire some former SMS employees but i doubt EA woulda do something actually good for once and the Madness engine is probably lost forever

[@jamesleegte5753]

EA are to gaming, what Disney are to legacy movie IP’s!

[@Yap018_PS5]

Every time I watch or read one of these analyses that delve into EA's decision-making logic and corporate narrative, I just dread the future of the WRC franchise, which happens to be my favorite motorsport... I guess I just will have to keep on playing Dirt Rally 2.0 until the end of times...

[@ofiasdfnosdf]

Project Cars 2 - now EIGHT years old - is still my favorite VR car sim and runs on my old $2000 PC. I can't understand why it hasn't been replaced yet...

[@NamePend]

I'm beginning to worry about F1 23, since the news of Codemasters CEO and CFO leaving is new to me. knowing that their Chief developers are still there, that means there could be hope... but only time will tell

It would be interesting if the PC devs were for AMS2, since it's on the same engine. Maybe from that, a singleplayer campaign or a more worked multiplayer would emerge.

[@KurianfromIndia]

Funny thing is 1 DLC for project cars 2 is still on sale in steam

[@antonsamuelsson1317]

Project car 2 was the first game i played when i got my first wheel

[@wolterzz3267]

I found out all the DLC from Project Cars 1 has been removed as well.

[@Steadymobbin711]

I truly hope they take the WRC franchise places, but the fact that they killed project cars is incredibly lame. I'm sure it's because 3 was a gigantic flop

[@flyingphoenix113]

The mobile game (Project Cars Go) was also awful. Amazing that 10+ years later and Assoluto Racing and Real Racing 3 are still the best titles on mobile.

[@Bolkiebasher]

They shot themselves in the foot with PC3. Stupid decision. It was a flop as it was nothing like PC1 and PC2. Imagine if GT7 was released as a Need for Speed competitor? 🙂

[@karl343]

I've been playing EA games since the 90's, even though they claim their games are simulation, they're in reality always arcade. They'll chase the casuals, kids, who can be manipulated into buying microtransactions. EA pulled the plug on Dirt Rally 3.0 when it was 90% complete. The only dev studio under their wing that have any sort of creative freedom is Respawn. Every other dev studio is shackled, working under strict conditions. They'll bastardise every simulation title under Codemasters.

[@Bolkiebasher]

@@karl343 Are you serious? Dirt Rally 3.0 was 90% ready and they've dropped it? Even though it's EA does not sound like good business sense.

[@Dexter037S4]

@@Bolkiebasher It's being salvaged for the WRC game, as the timeframes were basically the same, and really two of the same game, isn't really good business sense. still will get it's shit kicked in by RBR though.

[@bayunowoadi1042]

EA treats games like money grabbing machine, not art. They keep releasing meh product on timely basis with outrageous microtransactions. Kinda ironic because they have "Art" in their name.

[@Raven_za]

EA only cares if it says Fifa or battlefield on the box. Really will not miss them if they go belly up one day.

[@PetrolHeadMotorsport]

I think that with EA securing the license for WRC, I believe DiRT might become a shell of what it once was.

[@ashliehiggins]

EA is murdering Codemasters and SMS, I've played CM games since I could hold a gamepad, but EA are going to ruin all of this.

[@Willis2992]

EA out to ruin Sim Racing. Thank god for ACC.

[@danieldorn9989]

dont let EA know that they exist

[@Ben-Rogue]

EA is going to single handedly ruin half of the racing game franchises in the span of a few years. It's a real shame the big guys at MS and Sony only want to invest in one series each, both being massive disappointments that do more harm to the genre than good

[@martijnvangammeren1868]

Its sad that they went this way. Back in the day I had so much fun with the driving force GT steering wheel and the WTCC’s, Gt legends/ race games. They could be hard sims or just casual but great fun. I miss that

[@sexygrandpa169]

Because its not a game they can sell you yearly or is a live service..

[@blackknight4152]

Getting adquired by EA just means they want no niche markets. Its pretty sad that one of the greatest producers for RTS games ( another niche genre) in the early 2000s has completely abandoned the purpose of making games for the sake of delivering a high quality product in exchange of mass appeal and extreme profit. They dont simply deem Project Cars non-profitable. They simply consider its not profitable enough and has no potential to grow into a more social game. This mentality is outlandish to me, but I guess Im not managing a portfolio of hundreds of millions of revenue every year, so what could I know. Tbh, I dont really understand how can they close an ongoing project so hastily. Im scared for other studios in the company, because if project Cars was shafted for such petty reasons, then I can imagine any form of launch failure ( except from the main EA branded franchises like battlefield) is going to push entire games, or franchises to diie early in development.

[@unique.handle]

the original 2015 pCARS i think was the best semi-casual sim racer. i miss the aussies calling out the bad drivers and trash talking each other in the lobbies. the tyre changes in pCARS 2 were detrimental to the casual experience. too much time was wasted on slowly warming up the tyres. shame the series is dead now.

[@OGCYT]

Is anyone actually surprised this happen ? The PCARS franchise didn't sell well enough, it's the reason SMS was sold to Codemasters BEFORE EA bought them. All this means is those assets will be better utilized in the future from a staff without $ concerns during development. GRID is next in line from sources (unverified) after the last DLC is released. Now what EA does with all these assets is all on them, going to be interesting.

[@michazmuda1477]

Ea can merge SMS with Grid developers. As Project Cars 3 felt like weird combo of Grid 2019 and Driveclub.

[@LupusAries]

I've dealt with more than 20 years of EA BS, giving them the benefit of the doubt would be stupid on my part. And yeah Pcars3 was a huuuge mistake, they pissed on their loyal fanbase and Pcars 4 would've been a hard sell even for most of the most loyal fans. But if they made a Pcars2 done right (like AMS2) it could've been a triumphant success.

[@jeantsimracer]

They are still selling Project Cars 3 full price. They got rid of the good Project car game but keep the trash one.

[@famv7]

Just like F1 older games, they removed of steam , they want to us purchase the newest buggy games

[@jeantsimracer]

@@famv7 it's like they are trying to cover up the past. They don't want the newer generation of gamers to know that games are not supposed to be buggy and trash.

[@hawken796]

You guys are dumb, they remove older racing games because the licences expire and redoing those expensive contracts are simply not logical as they drive the budget up and sales won't be the same as launch, so they will lose money. Every publisher does this.

[@Austinredstoner]

Thank God I brought project cars before it got delisted from steam but I didn't buy the second one I only brought first project cars.

[@Austinredstoner]

@@famv7 you are right. Project cars 3 isn't even that good like the first and second one just look at the reviews project cars 3 didn't even get 70 percent of reviews but the first and second one got 84 percent.

[@AleksanderBrunsch3]

This video just made me worry about the upcoming WRC game. It will be on a yearly basis, probably not focused on realism, but on profit, so we're not getting DiRT Rally, and probably not Kylotonn's WRC style either. I guess we'll have to stick with DiRT Rally 2.0 and RBR... Shame.

[@vsm1456]

What I don't understand is why they also removed the previous games from the stores. And now I learned that they also removed Dirt 4 and Dirt Rally.

[@Austinredstoner]

I don't understand either I know some games eventually get discontinued but removing them from stores is just stupid only good thing is anyone who brought them before it got removed from stores can still redownload it but they won't be able to buy DLC.

[@gerardvreeswijk840]

They always say it is because of expiring licenses. What to believe of that.

[@OverTheHillsAdventures]

Wait until EA kill WRC with bugs,MTX and sub par driving

[@RShanjihad]

Knowing the history between EA and Ian Bell I was fearful of something like this happening

[@canadiankrispybacon1450]

Ha, don’t you worry IB and the exes walked away with millions at the end of the day

[@hayasher]

PC2 is the game that opened me out of my shell of only playing arcade racers

[@adamgd1273]

Honestly, I feel thkful cuz this game can still be modded (tough since it isn't mod-friendly, but the community is trying their best, and this is what keeps the game still on-going even today). Honestly, pCARS 2 isn't any kind of hardcore but a casual sim, yes it does have some weird physics but its VR performance make it the most immersive sim I've ever played. Sad to see a community-based game died so soon, AMS2 is definetly a spiritual successor of PC for me (or just me, I dunno)

[@peteryt357]

I really want to play some more Automobilista 2, but I personally have trouble playing the game on Controller because of how sensitive it feels to turn the car with my Thumb Sticks.

[@dylanhale7300]

Its not very good on controller admittedly, but on a wheel its probably the best modern sim on the market RN for driving feel

[@HarshGupta-oe1hv]

They are pushing the Frostbite engine for everything too. Another trend that must be noticed and highlighted.

[@TraxionGG]

This has a lot of pro's and con's though. The engine is great visually, wonder how great it is for racing.

[@suntannedduck2388]

The thing that confused me is that Project Cars 3 is Shift 3 basically. People can complain it's arcadey all they want it's what it is I played Shift 2 which was a Sim before PC3 and it was as clear but for most people they hadn't and it was simply also 10 years of a gap since people even played Shift 2. But also makes sense because why go back to the Shift formula when it's Project Cars not NFS Shift it doesn't make any sense. Besides whatever Bandai Namco wanted from the game. Otherwise it would be a competitor to Grid maybe??? But otherwise why not have 2 circuit racers EA? Otherwise. Dirt also going is strange because it fills a rally space well besides WRC but as Codemasters will have WRC now it's maybe not as needed? Even though they are different styles of focusing on rally. Either way EA kills things because why not. They wanted WRC and F1 that was obvious because of licenses just like sports ones. I'm surprised Grid Legends even released at all but I enjoyed it so I'm glad it was worth it (best modern racing game I've played compared to GT7 being a mess and praised when to me it's the worst modern racing game I've ever played). Not played iRacing or Assetto Corsa but still. I mean Gravel was a fine tv show focused rally game but I can't think besides what MX ATV or so that's really rally and that's quad bikes, Ride is your Forza with bikes type game and otherwise I can't think of many others.

[@digitalsoldierxp9027]

Project cars is the reason I got into sim racing and getting my first wheel

[@MaDScIeNtisT372]

Project Cars 3 was and is still awesome. I play this more than GT it's just pure fun

[@memirsultan1227]

is multiplayer shutted down or its only not on sale

[@7MBoosted]

Is the narrator for this video Austin Ogonoski?

[@chrisemma9556]

Nah Austin is more satirical

[@johnsullivan937]

How on earth microsoft has all these lawsuits and anti trust organizations taking them to court over the purchasing of activision, and yet companies like EA get to gobble up half the damn gaming industry, destroy the teams and projects, and assimilate them into their gelatinous blob of a corporation without so much as a wimper is something I will never understand. Its companies like this that are the reason why the gaming industry feels like its stagnated over the years, and now we keep playing the same damn games over and over again. Because they have like 5 seperate development studios all working on the same IP every single year pumping out the next one, and the next one, and the next one like an assembly line. They are completely sucking out the passion and creativity the industry used to be known for. Such a damn shame, as it seems SMS was willing to accept pc3 was a huge mistake and they sounded like they were going to go back to making a proper realistic sim. All I wanted was pc2 but more. More classes, more cars filling out the classes, more tracks, more polish and that sequel would have been phenominal. I loved the direction they took project cars 2, where you can simulate some of the greatest racing series of all time, and can really go wild with playing any car class on any track, you could even do a freaking gt3 race on a rallycross track if you wanted to! It was just fun. Now that whole team is probably going to be put onto the grid or need for speed assembly line so they can pump out their games at 12 percent better speed. This is really depressing.

[@Tommy712rus]

You forgot to mention nfs shift2 🗿 It was literally the basis for Project cars...

[@emilholmgrenmusic]

Project Cars 3 was a spiritual sequel to the team's previous "Need For Speed: Shift" series, which I loved. It's a pity it managed to look worse than its predecessors, though. I really enjoyed the simcade direction and felt it was a pity they chose the PC3 title.

[@marquisegoodwin2481]

Reiza studio’s just announced Ian bells new company just merged with Rieza

[@breacher7252]

Is that the Automobilista dev? Also, is it a merger or collaboration?

[@TheAngrySaxon1]

EA obviously didn't like the reaction to PC3, and decided to cut their losses. This is generally what happens when you shit on a game too much, the publisher gets jumpy. Silent Hunter fans know this only too well.

[@tonedcos]

They killed the franchise when, instead of perfecting the most excellent game they had in pcars2, they got greedy and went for the easy money with the casual arcade market.

[@MiddywolfR]

This is just a massive disaster for racing games, Dirt is probably completely dead to be resurrected as a "live service", Both WRC and F1 licenses are probably gonna get even more monetization year over year and EA certainly won't want to put out any franchises that might step on Need for speeds toes whenever new titles are about to come out. This is basically a monopoly on sim racing games when it comes to consoles, PC at least still has Beam.NG and other small studio games with some promise

[@WilsonBradleyTheOfficial]

Because they suck.. Just like they killed the Titanfall 2 Brand.. They are disconnected from consumers.

[@user-yn7ll3qz1p]

Somebody needs to bring the original P Cars formula back...

[@trippulggaming26]

I'd like to know why both Dirt 4 and Dirt Rally have been delisted without so much as a peep...yet we were given several weeks notice ahead of the delisting of both PCARS1 and 2. Maybe I missed the announcement? Kinda sucks, I was planning on picking up the old Dirt titles the next time they went on sale.

[@dathyr1]

It is now 2024. Well I have Project Cars 3 and only got it for the VR support and was on sale on STEAM. PC3 is definitely not a SIM game. One main Reason - NO PIT areas. So there are no Fuel strategies in any races. There are other reasons, but this is the main one for me. PC3 is an Arcade game and probably not many serious PC people purchased it on STEAM. That said, There will be never be a Project Cars 4, no matter what someone said about it.

[@malgrif091]

so AMS2 doesn't have great multi-player and doesn't have great single player. So what is left, a tech demo?

[@deuksooseo]

Pcars 3 is also a very well made and fun game. It is so underrated just because it is not a simulation.

[@gordonshumway888]

As a fan of the TOCA Race Driver series by Codemasters and Project CARS series by SimBin, I am deeply disappointed of what is happening in the world of racing simulator games.

[@DenariusHaveNarius]

They peaked with GTR2. It went downhill from there.

[@fetB]

patience of our publisher.... the cancer of every game development till this day Ps: 6:00 which track is this?

[@JohnMunroRacing]

Looks like Willow Springs!

[@fetB]

@@JohnMunroRacing that'll be it, thanks

[@Poorgeniu5]

I see, so NFS: Shift 3 is off the table then.

[@redagent21]

eww live services... pls no.. the new wrc is gonna be micro transaction hell now...

[@joshuaquinones9760]

"Decisions like these are very hard" I bet it was actually super easy for EA to make the decision of cancelling Project Cars for no real reason

[@robocop0211]

Such a shame. Loved Project Cars 1 & 2 after coming from Gran Turismo

[@hotrodhammee]

I just hope this microtransiction model dies, or EA itsself

[@matthewstone5528]

Project cars 2 is an incredible game, guys make it simple an please reconsider making project cars4, but starting with the vision an the info from project cars 2 and I’m sure it will the best sim ever, please reconsider this diamond in the ruff!!!

[@cjc5478]

the time trials in PC3 was annoying { difficulty settings would not change the time restraints } ... just stick to racing and keep the pit lanes and lose too many screens between races { Forza Motorsport 7 }.

[@paullastnamehere3295]

So, it sounds like they took over Project Cars just so they could dump it in the trash so they could boost sales of F1 racing. They could've had the best of two worlds by having select F1 cars in Project Cars 4 but not have a full line up of cars and tracks. They could have easily taken Project Cars 2 source code, add some cars, add some visuals, and made some upgrades then call it Project Cars 4 Return to Sim Racing. Then again this is EA we are talking about, and I suspect they don't know much about what the consumers want; see NHL for PC for example.

[@F1_Gianni_96]

I loved Project cars I missing it already 😢

[@socksonfeet8125]

You missed the link between Shift 1, 2 and PC3. SMS made Project Ferrari as a demo, EA paid SmS to make a NFS game with their engine. Shift 1 and 2 came out then EA lied to SMS and tried to bankrupt SMS by paying them to be in limbo and not make a game. So they broke away from EA and then started Project Cars 1. Project Cars 3 was a sequel to Shift 2 but the publisher forced them to name it Project Cars. Such a long drawn out drama for this team just trying to make the best racing games they can lol.

[@zensoredparagonbytes3985]

Shift 2 was so good. Still have it. Struggled with it at first, until I tweaked the controller settings. Tuning the car also influenced the driving immensely. You really had fiddle around a lot until you found the sweet spot of every car. I think that is what turned people off. Which was a shame, because once you had full control of the car, the driving was unrivalled by any other car game, nor has been. Not even by Project Cars series.

[@socksonfeet8125]

@@zensoredparagonbytes3985 I agree the drifting is still probably the best drifting in a game outside of Car X Drift. But like you said you had to fine tune the cars out of the box, which isn't everyone's cup of tea.

[@zensoredparagonbytes3985]

@@socksonfeet8125 Not a true petrolhead if you don't understand how to fine tune the tool that allows you to convey your skills to the asphalt✌🏼

[@erifretrats378]

I used to play and still have all those old simbin and race games they were great, then PC1, PC2 and some others........ when Project Cars went all EA and screwy...... I used to tell everyone I knew that Automobalista 2 uses the same engine as Project cars 2.... so use that instead of Project Cars 3 as it wasn't really Project Cars anymore...... I don't think they heard or took any notice or thought I was insane for saying it........ Auto 2 may not have all the cars everyone likes or even knows, but still, it is a great car racing simulator

[@jpracing893]

PC3 felt like a EA decision. slightly mad studios were always more towards the Sim Style and PC2 was such a good SIM 1 not so much bit clunky. I was hoping they’d return to their routes with PC4 but seems it’s not to be

[@roughdude6575]

As a fan of rally games, it leaves a bitter taste in my mouth.

[@daboiracing3848]

There was never supposed to be a Pcars 2, The whole point was to keep updating Cars.

[@bobthebike7538]

They probably really killed it because after the road wreck of PC3, no-one would trust a 4th iteration.

[@Ben-Rogue]

Ironic, since Project Cars 3 was likely watered down by Codemasters in an attempt to appeal to EA and their 'target audience'

[@canadiankrispybacon1450]

So I paid for this game, 1 & 2why is it gone from my PS console UI..my library says I purchased PC2 but won’t let me start? Ian Bell and the crew ruined PC they didn’t finish the original PC, ignored and abused their customers..PC2, same thing..even though the customers had faith..nope did the same thing…and then they wondered why no one would buy PC3 These crooks made a lot of money off of us..and are now running ..they think anyone would ever trust them again 🤔

[@ActionRacingNetwork]

That really sucks EA shouldn't do something like that just give these people project cars 4

[@hughxthexhand]

Project cars killed it's self. The 1st one had so much potential with the talent they hired and the amount of real world racing drivers they used to help with development, and it fell a little short. I thought that's ok the next one will build on what they currently have, unfortunately the second one was a step back then the third was a major step in the wrong direction. In short they killed them selves.

[@jamesvancam]

I hope they never kill NFS but who knows.

[@johnedwards230]

EA don't do anything thats not mass market. Its a Hollywood blockbuster vs an indie studio basically.

[@dannyseville2543]

Really looks like EA were just being EA. Buy a studio pretty much to close down competition. They should try upping there game instead of removing alternatives. As soon as a company says games are not just about the play, you know they are not interested in good content, unless they can charge extra for it. Just let these smaller studios do their thing and if the games suck, they will soon dissappear anyway. I have to admit, the last Project cars game I have is 2.

[@buzzed0nbeer21]

EA buying code masters will end the climb of sim raising and put it on the decline. Atleast on the decline

[@barelydigital30016]

all i can say is.. assetto corsa and other better sim exist. when project cars 1 was released back then, I really thought that they have the potential to compete against the other great sims like AC, but when the project cars 2 arrived, I was disappointed by it, i just dont understand how the physics works on that game, most of the cars just understeers like a pig especially Formule series cars .and there is the new project cars 3, which i dont understand... . i would say that the biggest let down of PC is there are only a number of MODS you can do in; much fewer in PC 2. price also is a factor too, not to mention that AC is a lot cheaper. yea i know that in AC you need to buy DLC's, but hey, you can also do car mods if you want.... so, i dont really care if they'll kill it, from the PC 3 standpoint, it does not look good anyway...

[@MV76]

PC Pro? Sounds interesting…Tell us more…

[@drumbri]

EA cares not what anybody thinks of them. It’s ALL about the $$$

[@raycharles7059]

Sad EA killed this series. Hopefully they don't kill everything else codemasters does. Unfortunately it's their track record. Hopefully project cars can get a revive one day.

[@ZulqarnainAidil]

Project Cars is a weird series for me. I absolutely love the career mode and how flexible it is but I can never get used to the almost unpredictable driving model in which some cars would just slide out even under light braking. But I saw the improvements between 1 and 2 and was kinda hopefull for 3, which turns out to be an absolute turd with graphics that's outclassed by iPhone titles. With that said, I kinda wonder if PC was canceled not just because it doesn't fit within EA's portfolio of Games as a Shitty service, but also because Bandai Namco still has publishing/distribution rights. The nature of Project Cars does allow it to be turned into whatever EA needs it to be, a shitty service game with tons of cars and dlc tracks with a strong focus on online play and community and then spun off into an open world franchise, like Forza. It can cater to those that are not into the Fast and Furious-inspired action and drama of NFS and are looking for a more serious experience. They can make it fit into their portfolio. And EA is clearly comfortable with rebooting franchises. They've rebooted NFS so many times, so they could definitely reboot PC into what they want and with clear and proper communication, you can set players expectations beyond what was set with the previous games. This is why I'm wondering if the prospect of Bandai Namco being involved in some way, or having to navigate with dealings and existing contracts was what killed the series.

[@550LMS]

Ian Bell killed project cars. Classic case of over promise and under deliver, and being an arrogant piece of work on top of that. Alienating and insulting genuine supporters/fans of the game asking legitmate questions regarding things that where promised but never implemented for silly reasons, then releasing the utter travesty that was PC3 (and having the balls to call it a simulation) killed it all. It's a shame he got $$ by selling it to EA. Should've gotten nothing.

[@randyb9544]

Hell yeah, hope ian chokes on a hotdog.

[@Ben-Rogue]

I'd say PC3 had too many chefs in the kitchen, that all wanted something different... Bell being the way he is doesn't help lol

[@OperationFoxley19441]

Why did EA Kill Project CARS? BECAUSE! Project Cars Three.

[@FOX11GUY]

Changing heads is never good for a Niche fan base. All this sounds like the WB DC studios mess.

[@michaelellams9105]

EA Killing a game off "gasp" who would have thought it.

[@joegaines8448]

Yeah it is a shame that EA would have killed it, if it was like project cars like I do especially the first game is not going to tolerate such treachery that I won't tolerate this kind of treachery, except I don't know if this is a this is a positive thing or it's a bad thing but if it's true then this is kind of treachery I won't tolerate ever.

[@ruddgrandprix-speedrunraci8515]

7:19 That quote right here is disgusting and I hate it.

[@glitcherPROXx]

Project Cars is still epic today if the studio would’ve really went back to the roots I’m sure it would’ve been even better sucks EA kills everything just like all these games are always online.....times are changing better keep the own disc you guys still have of these epic games before they become loss in the sauce