Project CARS Online - BRUTEforce vs DOWNforce

This is a fast track with very long straights, but with a lot of corners too.
So, which one will win? A car fast on straights but slow on corners (the Ford Mark IV), or a slower car on straights but with more lateral grip (the Lotus Type 40)? The bets before the race are open!!!

[@RogueAkai]

"There ain't no replacement for displacement" - Carroll Shelby "You sure about that, mate?" - Colin Chapamn.

[@andre_star7776]

"Aerodynamics is for people who can't build engines" (Enzo Ferrari) "Are you sure about that?" (Colin Chapman)

[@canessteelersheat]

''My steering wheel vibrates like a dildo'' - Viperconcept 2016

[@npne1253]

NRA GH XD

[@masonreppeto882]

that guy quit the game because he got beat by a car that was missing half the body.

[@thenarrator1921]

I mean I'd quit the second I get kicked in the ass by someone who I'd just stripped pants off

[@itrisky773]

OOF

[@legm5298]

@@thenarrator1921 😂😂😂

[@ZobbyGaming]

You see now this is how racing online should be done! Now why can't most people be like more this? In any online racing game I've played literally everyone uses ramming tactics.

[@wulf7744]

ZobbyGaming lol exactly. These people are driving like professional drivers while everyone else is driving with the intent to kill

[@zedzedski7382]

try iRacing then. No ramming there and if there is one then they get kicked and banned from racing fast.

[@Lagmaster33]

iRacing is sometimes a bit too autistic with their rules imo. Good thing that they ban trolls and such but even real F1 drivers are given more leeway with mistakes that virtual drivers in iRacing.

[@zedzedski7382]

Gary Grandy so, I guess real F1 drivers and others are autistic then cause they play that game and help game devs make it as close to RL as possible. i.e. Rubens Barrichello and his son play it. So, I guess that makes them autistic.

[@Lagmaster33]

***** Nice try but you missed the point. I didnt say that the players are autistic (generally speaking). Its the enforcement of rules and keeping stats about every little contact.

[@Sunesen]

Your car had a spare tire inside all the time? Talk about excess weight. XD

[@chrish3510]

Old Le Man's regulations said you had to have a spare tire in the car.

[@hachiroku3936]

Aaaand as its a ford, it needs tons of downforce

[@KrashKan]

Or you will hit crowds like a mustang lol

[@sholderknees6549]

Sunesen its because of the weight and down force, if you notice there is a box next to the exhaust, and there's a tire on the left side. its to balance the weight

[@Gojira_uz]

The car still weighs under 1000kg lol.

[@spangriel]

You can cook bacon and eggs at 130°C; not to imagine what you could do with 720°C.

[@Enderplays12]

Ford brakes can melt steel beams!

[@NBDUDE]

Gabriel Spang burnt bacon and eggs

[@itrisky773]

can it melt my problems??

[@sarekhs3652]

@@itrisky773 it can melt more than just your problems,bud.....

[@thebreadwentstale]

There's a spare tire under there!!! I had no idea.

[@ryd3r007]

Nice race Viper, fantastic battle with the Lotus driver, and the little mistake as you say its part of the races, next time pick the Lotus :P Cheers

[@viperconcept]

I know, I know... I was just adding feelings and emotions to make it appear more dramatic. :P

[@andre_star7776]

@@viperconcept Enzo Ferrari once said: Aerodynamics is for people who can't build engines

[@Daisuki0u]

Is there really a light reduction when you lose half your body ? I mean, does the game have this mechanic ?

[@zXHAcKeRzXz]

Still waiting

[@ytaky]

Nice fight, a pleasure to watch!! if only i would find players like you! 9/10 races im in i loose 1st place multiple times because of "pit manuevers" raming me on the inside of corners, or using me as a "wall" so they wont go off the track! yes because most players never heard about brakes and/or racing lines ;(

[@facuserpilli2563]

Awesome race and racers. Love what you do, greetings from Argentina 🇦🇷👏🏻👍🏻

[@jamzanthony21]

Its very refreshing when you compliment the other racers... Keep it up... Eat his downforce ! that was hilarious

[@skinnykiddou]

Always a pleasure to watch a pro at work, keep it up!)

[@KevinSmith-xt8xr]

This was a Boxing Match Heavyweight vs Light Heavyweight

[@MisterCobana89]

The Lotus hasn´t any downforce either. It´s just much lighter and therefore faster in corners.

[@Gojira_uz]

Not only that but it probably has a better weight distribution so it has more stability. More weight towards the front=more lateral grip and less weight toward the rear=less gravity forcing the car to spin.

[@danbo4263]

The Lotus is still mid engine though...

[@Gojira_uz]

Danbo42 True, but it doesn't have a 427 cubic inch engine 'round the back does it?

[@danbo4263]

It probably does have better weight distribution, but it's just that it's still biased toward the rear. All I could find is that it weighs 748 kilos and has a Ford 351:/

[@Gojira_uz]

Danbo42​​ Ah,I thought of the wrong model of the GT40, but still most likely a larger engine than the Lotus. A car with a 47/53 weight split, which I reckon the Lotus has, isn't undrivable, it has weight biased towards the rear but can still have grip. The GT40 has even more weight towards the back because of it's larger engine, probably a 43/57 which has less grip weight towards the front and more towards the back which encourages more gravity force to make the car slide.

[@dgalcaide_]

dude, you are finally one of the reasons that i like youtube. keep it up mate!

[@steveelpro]

2:20 This scene reminds me to Cars :v

[@kevinandries8742]

the sound of ur car always remind of: It is time to DU-DU-DU-DU-DU-DU-DUEL!

[@martinfreund6737]

First time after a while that you've posted a video of you losing a race... Still, a nice race though.

[@cellphonelightsaber]

You have some of the best commentary of ANYTHING I've seen on KZbin; don't think for a moment you're putting up all those subtitles for nothing, Viper-senpai.

[@thorvelasco1467]

in the immortal words of Ryosuke Takahashi, "It's so refreshing to battle at the ultimate limit" that was some really great racing. car control and the Gentleman Racer Rule. I like seeing that in all motorsports, esports or real sports. I totally see that the Lotus got in your head. he was baiting you in the corners, then that outside pass, MAN! unreal. he knew if he kept you at least 50meters behind the penultimate corner he might have beat you to the line. but your Brute Force motor was playing out in his head every time you passed on the straights. in hindsight you showed your cards too early. as you were chasing the Dragon, that 1/1000 moment of judgement on that dogleg, man! it was going to be a photo finish for sure. I need a wheel on my ps4. I don't online race because i'm not the cleanest on a controller.

[@TheZohan26]

Well some people deal with being overtaken and fight till the end....others cant handle and quit 😂😂 love your videos man ✌✌✌

[@MetalSimVR]

Hey there and a big compliment for your exellent work! I'm always inspired by your funny and helpful videos. Driving this Ford with a shifter is hard work and not that easy to handle. But I practice as much as I can also while I'm writing here. Can't wait to get my VR on PS4 to dive in this great game. Keep on doing these extrordinary videos and some day perhaps with a VR on your head...

[@KevinMartinez-nh7qx]

last video last one and ill get ready for work!! ughh-_-'

[@wulf7744]

Kevin Martinez lol

[@martinfreund6737]

9:51 K.O.!

[@thebreadwentstale]

WASTED. :)

[@zefergaming9028]

I have to give it you, you are the best driver i have ever seen, u inspire me. Thank you!

[@viperconcept]

Thank you for watching my videos. :-)

[@OlivierFfrench]

Nice race! And good to see I am not the only one with these G29/G920 vibrations

[@prowarrior0155]

That's real racing right there! Very nice driving indeed 👍🚘💯🏁

[@pipitakilltv9555]

i really like your videos mate! I do montages of racing online but yours are awesome

[@laferrarifabrummbrumm3878]

I wonder if the lack of the rear body of the car generates an improvement of the engine cooling

[@Sensu0]

I love that you include music from Wario Land 4

[@ikirumori]

I just started project cars, I'm on formula rookie and what I hate is that most AIs are jerks and can make you crash, plus awesome video.

[@tamgaming9861]

Such a race in F1 ... holy shit we all would love it so much :-)

[@scarface9767]

i love that spare tire near the exust i think back in the day they had tyres in the pits unless the ford you drove is a rallycar

[@MickeyStartraveller]

Great race, smart driving, fun video and oh the drama!! :)

[@danbo4263]

I just love being able to race on Road America~

[@dailyhooligan3975]

Danbo42 you from Wisconsin too?

[@dailyhooligan3975]

Danbo42 you from Wisconsin too?

[@danbo4263]

daily hooligan yup, will be there for Spring Vintage

[@dailyhooligan3975]

Danbo42 nice I always go for the bikes

[@MyLonewolf25]

WOOOOO! More Wisconsinites! ( I want to race there so bad but I only have a tiny Econo box and it's expensive)

[@blitzwithspartan6175]

Like I see racing like this and think “Wow I want that game” then realise “Uhhh yeah I can’t drive half that good”

[@friskdreemurr8006]

That is what i call a car.

[@dr4kk0nnys6]

How to lost a perfect race

[@renski8976]

How to mess a perfect grammar.

[@Eratiik]

AnimeLapse lol

[@StefanvandeBilt]

Eratiik h

[@KingLich451]

maan downforce and all but that ENGINE SOUND

[@MarioLuigi2013]

i subscribed. i got a racing wheel for my son for Christmas and I play with it sometimes with Project Cars; thrustmaster wheel

[@ezequielpriotto3299]

hi viper, do you played on ps4. I have it in console with the g29. What setup are you using for the force feedback?

[@viperconcept]

Hi! I use the default setup! ^^

[@spinosauro666]

+viperconcept so You are on ps4...Can You add me? spinosauro666

[@Allu681]

Gaming&Randomness Felineconcept163 no, it is Ford... Mark IV racecar 67'

[@Beazelundefined]

Those details under the hood worth playing w/ damage turned ON!

[@Davihenrik]

you were using the steering wheel and the external camera? that's just the replay or you play like that? (external camera)

Davi Henrique yeee people use this camera even with wheel sometimes.. I personally use hood cam only. Not a fan of cockpit camera. But in some games i can use it

[@slayerjohn447]

He uses the hood/roof cam for the race then records the replay in the chase view.

[@yohanponcha]

Don't forget, when choosing between downforce and firepower, the track matters too!

[@ZeKenzeuX]

The intro song. I believe that's from Wario world if I'm correct. Love it!

[@ZeKenzeuX]

*Wario land

[@Jebotito]

Ze KenzeuX can you link the song please? I checked wario land 4 ost but didnt find the track

[@ZeKenzeuX]

Foxhound Scylla Here is a link to a video of that intro song! m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/r6XYmqxqhJ18oZo Enjoy man! :D

[@ouonouanwilfried-desire7758]

Omg that move from the opponent 9:17 was orgasmic

[@megabakfiets]

Nice intro music, from warioland 4 on the gameboy. Brings back a lot of memories. Cant remember what level though exactly

[@uszeyboi]

at least you were set stright on the track after the crash :D

[@norton.r.m]

if i ever saw your car onlin e i woulndt hit it. dont wanna mess with ablack ford gt. keep up the vids.

[@welshblade5451]

really enjoyed watching that race!!

[@TheGrinningSkull]

I'm wondering if the new (old school) silent intro was in response to the comments about the loud previous intro? ahah

[@luisvitorviegasgoncalves.9818]

That "LOOK AT THAT" at 9:25 reminded me Genaro Contaldo... Was it an italian reference?

[@PainOneKing]

JAJAJAJA 9:41 i love you broooo! xD

[@Spatticus]

great race! It doesn't look like you are using a wheel as when you corner you stab at the throttle and your steering doesn't seem very smooth. Also changing down through the gears while braking your car is rev matching? Still an epic battle, loved watching this

[@generalhorst8831]

Matt B He is using a g29 and steering is a problem with the car.

[@naradhipatiandaru5078]

moral of the race: set your car according to the circuit

[@ironpatriot6053]

The 1st and 2nd gear of that lotus is good .... but that ford is OP on straight :P

[@ikirumori]

Also, when I lost a part like a part of the chassis I thought it would make me go faster, does it?

[@laki9893]

6:32 you can melt some other metals too😂

[@iflexyt7700]

viper as long as you work on your thumbnails you'll be successful.

[@michaelsedgley8692]

PSDaFuQ breasts usual trick me into watching some really shit videos

[@aymenbenchaabane379]

nice race feel to change the camera inside in the future

[@Ennis320]

Is Project Cars larger than Assetto Corsa? I find AC To be completely dead online ( pc )

[@noisysilence2411]

AC is riddled with players man, i barely find empty servers

[@vargarichard9797]

Viperconcept , do you play from this view or is that a replay video? Also, if you play from that view how the hell can you manage to not get confused from the lot of camera change to look back? /btw watching your videos....you are a pretty decent driver pal, keep it up!/ ;)

[@stevieboymkii]

Shame that the races never seem to have many people in them. Be good to see you get a race where there are at least 15 people on a regular basis.

[@dracofenix3860]

Great race anyways. I would love to see you and the Lotus battle all the way to the finish, but thing like that happens all the time. . . . In real life you and the blue guy would probably suffer grave injuries btw.

[@gugibugi0]

I touch myself to this engine sound

[@flyinglotus605]

Skilled race! I think, maybe the Ford's suspension is too soft? or what?

[@MyLonewolf25]

Wait isn't this road America.. I live not too far from there Would you say It's more of a power or handling track? And how good is downforce for it?

[@violentshemp7776]

the mkIV came w/a cammer 427 and the 40 should have the 289. is this also correct in the game?

[@anakinGTI]

Dovresti mettere anche la wheel cam ;) grande viper, peccato che hai la ps4!

[@JICM25]

Bloody amazing fight

[@SU-wg9pz]

Is the spare tire 10% smaller than the stardand tires?????

[@alucart1984]

What setup to you have your G29 attached to? Also do you use the clutch and gear shift when racing? Or do you go automatic?

[@generalhorst8831]

Derek Morrison he shifts manualy

[@Benno0441]

Totally off topic, but is this the same car the bad guy drove in the Lovebug movies?

[@Jebotito]

Viper can you please link or at least name the songs you used for your videos? Please! :(

[@Myhuntergenesis]

Awsome race !

[@thesciencesphere4273]

10:58 Viper be like: HERE'S VIPER!! :D

[@peridromos8894]

My steering wheel vibrates like a dildo with this car laughed so much

[@Seajojo]

Man that brake overheat....

[@SirAlbertoAcrt]

how u can drive with that camera

[@aspar1no366]

Questa è la visuale che usi durante le gare o la selezioni solo nel replay?

[@viirusscarbonz1661]

The good old wario land 4 music ^^

[@emsj86]

Need help with a set up for new ayer to keep from being really loose

[@dilangoldrent119]

It was so beautiful!

[@magobargle8341]

Well, you can't win 'em all, but it was a beautiful race :-) Question: when you lost the rear parts, aerodynamic changed as well ? I've already read of weight, ok,but the mere weight could be irrelevant compared to the car mass. (there was the spare wheel, lol) but the pure handling ? aerodynamic should change a lot in that case, is'nt it ?

[@viperconcept]

It depends from the damage settings before the race between: none, visual only, speed impact, full damages. In this lobby the damages were on visual only (I was joking). In this game when you put full damages, losing car pieces doesn't affect the car weight, but it affects the downforce, the suspension system, the steering precision and the top speed. Personally I've no problems putting full damages, but the problem in PCars community is: generally people don't want full damages (or all assists off) otherwise they don't want to join the lobby or they rage quit immediately after a crash. That's pretty sad IMO... :-/

[@magobargle8341]

ok, thank you :-)

[@masonreppeto882]

the first or second online race ive played i went from 12th to 5th place because of rage quiters XD

[@asfcesps3950]

Ciao Viper ;) attualmente corro su GT6 ma ho anche PCars per ps4 che vorrei iniziare a prendere seriamente, hai qualche gara/evento in programma? Inoltre, potresti darmi le tue impostazioni per settare il force feedback del volante? Attualmente ho un T150 e non riesco a farlo funzionare correttamente. Grazie :)

[@pandemjune7752]

I thought it was a Alfa Romeo 33 Stradale for a second xD Cuz of the kinda giant front lights xD

[@pandemjune7752]

I dont want petrolheads attacking me like "Its called a headlight you stupid fuck" ok ok..Cuz of the giant "Headlights"...Happy ??

[@smashedtomato9591]

DrunkPatatoGaming No one said that XD

[@that1guy322]

i hate long gear ratios from 1st to 3rd, but amp up the speed with 4th thru 6-7th

[@GalVanunu12]

What a fight... Epic

[@ZANGOJOE]

You did that well!

[@pbentle1990]

I'm curious if the game actually tracks you loosing your rear...hatch (?)... into the handling. That and loosing your spoiler

[@asdasddsadsa123]

i wanted to be your 40.000'th subber :) :D

[@henry98az]

I love the excuses when you lost position... kkkkkkkkkkkk

[@truantray]

down force? the lotus is lighter, that's why it corners faster.

[@trodat07]

@720c you could melt the pan along the fried eggs and bacon...

[@alejandromartintierno5083]

I play Project cars 2, because there are many few players on the 1, or Race Room, but I am VERY BAD.Almost always the last, but is funny.

[@moseskamau406]

5:16 yu would know all about that

[@MidNightFreakOZ]

why is this fords steering wheel on the wrong side?

[@Jlou21000]

Nice video !!!