PROOF The Car Market is Crashing $30K OFF NOT SELLING!

[@NoNoseFlappy69]

It's "$30,000 off" but the price was originally raised $65,000. So it's still $35,000 above MSRP

[@nkimokc1]

Your right!

[@lonelybullet1]

Good point

[@theflyingsnoopy]

Basically it's 30 k and their trying to highball make a person pay for the price of two to get the dealer money worth

[@mikeygROCNY]

The msrp on the Ram was 80k, now the yellow sale sign says 50k… that’s 30k off…

[@NoNoseFlappy69]

@mikeygROCNY The MSRP for the exact same RAM before covid was 45k

[@KCShox]

I freaking hate car companies. They raised prices while simultaneously their quality went down.

[@0bservationist]

I'm not carrying water for them, but that's all industries. less product/quality, more money.

[@22lrjayden81]

@@0bservationistsame with food. Just look at the quality of food. Its fallen so bad.

[@0bservationist]

@@22lrjayden81 Agreed. It's something people don't talk about. They only talk about the price. But the price of food has gone up, and the quality down.

[@nicholasnissen1547]

Exactly would be one thing if it cost that much and never fucking broke. That isn't the case all QC in manufacturing is way down .

[@elieli56]

What happened to quality checks?

[@ltnitmare]

Wranglers should cost $35K new, not $110K

[@asadianbelifont3875]

EXACTLY! A brand new top of the line trim level ain't worth more than $50k. Period. Normal drivers became the price of exotic supercars in a few years time, it's fucking insane.

[@ryanmclellan8740]

@@ltnitmare my Uncle is getting up in years. He's planning on giving me his 2 door soft top Wrangler. I think it's a 1998. I should ask him how much he paid... Sure as shit wasn't over 100k...

[@AlexanderJayson]

Let em rot

[@ninerknight5351]

@@ryanmclellan8740I bought my ‘02 wrangler used in ‘06 for 16k.

[@AustinMathias]

Forreal it's just a metal box.

[@begelston]

Every month without a car payment brings more pleasure and happiness than an overpriced new car.

[@mr_jdes]

Amen !

[@michaelbell390]

Love my paid off 2013 model 😊

[@panaderofilms]

*except if that car is a Miata

[@boostedbavarian]

New truck is so amazing tho. Love the feel of a new truck. Love my life. Godbless.

[@davidanderson8469]

Yeah bank owned vehicles are not yours. Drop the trucks to invoice and clear the lots. Next batch with less technology and more emphasis on quality. My local Toyota dealer is loaded with overpriced Tundra's and Tacomas. They've got a dozen Tundras in the back awaiting engines and people are spooked about them.

[@sbalak]

Never forget these leeches got greedy. Let them sit and rust on the lot.

[@bigal5323]

@@sbalak yes from the unionized uneducated blue collar assembler to the CEO they all became way to greedy!!!

[@FeralPlumber]

1:43 My jaw hit the floor........$111K for a Rubicon Jeep. Who the @#$% is paying that???

[@KermitOfWar]

Hell, the '21 Gladiator Mojave is still priced at like $110-120K in my area...

[@jeffreybischoff6772]

Someone with more money than brains.

[@JohnSmith-fi2ck]

Dont think of the total price, just think about if you can afford the payment.

[@jupiteral8217]

Yea a fucking Jeep with the luxury options like a Lexus. Sure is a long way from a CJ-5 or old Cherokee. What a joke.

[@lonelybullet1]

Why would anyone who has that kind of budget buy a Jeep 😮

[@ryanmclellan8740]

I bought a 2024 Ford Maverick with cash. You wouldn't believe the hassle it was. I didn't want to finance. I had the money. The finance guys pressured me more than the sales guy. I got mad, went to leave, then the deal was done. Seriously, this country is built on debt.

[@humanresources3545]

I only buy when I have the money. And I only buy secondhand - after a lot of research.

[@ryanmclellan8740]

@@humanresources3545 smart man/woman. Don't live in debt. I was fortunate enough to save enough to buy straight up. But, now I see some used trucks online for way less. Kind of regretting buying new.

[@KES33615]

It's the new slavery.

[@bobmarker6812]

@@humanresources3545 Same here! I pay cash for a 1 to 2 year old BASIC car, then drive it until it's worth it's weight in scrap.

[@davidanderson8469]

They get a kickback on loans from the bank or the manufacturer.

[@judahnanas9772]

Funny to see a 3y/36k mile warranty on a 119k truck. LAUGHABLE!

[@ErikOlaf-g9y]

Lot's $5000 magical repairs needed after 36K...

[@ralphholiman7401]

That it will take most people seven years to pay off.

[@egregiousblunder5395]

We have a Jeep/Ram, Chevy, and Ford dealer in town and they have vehicles damn near outside that 3/36 because of this markup BS.

[@getinthespace7715]

​@ralphholiman7401 , yeah, with over $2k a month car payments... 😂 pure insanity.

[@richki.24]

$30,000 off a $120,000 vehicle is not worth it ...

[@RossMalagarie]

If they took $60K off a $120K vehicle it would still be overpriced

[@richki.24]

@@RossMalagarie , very true ...

[@CriticaLLout]

@@RossMalagarie🎯

[@mineandmine4528]

I remember when 120K would buy a house

[@ShawnZagar]

The bitterness of a high payment lasts far longer than the sweetness of a new vehicle.

[@johnlibonati7807]

Well said.

[@TheREALLibertyOrDeath]

So true

[@gregr.3886]

Deep

[@jerrypolverino6025]

The Stealerships screwed their customers and now the customers are screwing them. Let them rot on the lot.

Stealership? Very Clever. I'm going to use it. Let me know where to send your 10 cent royalty

[@thomascunningham111]

Big problems with new cars: poor quality and too much junk technology. I prefer simple RELIABLE cars, not electronic gadgets that I will never use.

[@kl0wnkiller912]

Yep. Same here.

[@chestermarcol3831]

@thomascunningham111 - All I want is a light pickup truck, crank windows, manual mirrors, AC, and cruise (a manual transmission would be a bonus) and I want to pay 20,000 or less for it. You cannot tell me that THAT vehicle can't be made, and sold for a profit. The first company to offer that in the US will sell them by the 10's of thousands, year ONE.

[@MichaelRobinson-lt6ee]

This is foolish to pay these high prices for technology that is heading for the junkyard trash 🗑️ can it's stupid

[@darkplainsdrifter3499]

I believe Toyota is making a new truck exactly like you described! Gonna look into getting one of those.

[@support2587]

Let it rot, I'd rather dump $30k in my 06 Dually.

[@wrongthinker350]

You can do a lot of work for 30 grand.

[@thatguy7085]

That is what I’ve done the last 25 years… I is far far less expensive to replace an engine in an older car than to buy a new one. I’ve done it for two cars, one a Lexus. The problem with cars now, they throw all kinds of electronics that last about as long as your home computer, before they need replacing… 3 to 4 years. Now, think about the people with 7 year $1500 month burdens…

[@georgemontgomery9448]

Me too....06 Dodge 2500, 191,000, cummins, never in the snow....screw them new trucks...love my truck❤

[@mostdavestdave69]

And that's just in fuel...😂

[@mostdavestdave69]

2000 Chevy Silverado LS 4x4. Bought it for $4500 with 112,000 miles five years ago. Can sell it for more now. All leather seats. Full carpet, padding and head liner in bed of truck with a shell. Has about 220k miles now. Runs great.

[@gordonallen9095]

People have collectively realized that Chrysler, Dodge, Jeep, and Ram is overpriced JUNK. And will not buy them under ANY circumstances. Stellantis did this to THEMSELVES.

[@CriticaLLout]

Being a greedy sleez ball always has an expiration date

[@aojorel]

Yep I bought my first and last jeep in 2017

[@getinthespace7715]

They are definitely smoking crack. You can buy them used for pennies on the dollar. They deprecate over 50% in 2-3 years. These "$100k+" vehicles will deprecate even faster.

[@robhargis6980]

Agreed. And....Chevy/GMC trucks same deal. Overpriced JUNK!

[@aojorel]

@ shonuff

[@TheCharleseye]

When I was selling cars, it was a good day when you could get someone to pay MSRP. The current market is insane. They already have a very big profit, just between invoice and MSRP. They do not need these markups. It's pure greed. Hold the line. Make them sweat.

[@futurefirm]

15k off of 95k isn't a deal at all.

[@joet7136]

Nope. $80,000 for any truck is still highway robbery.

[@richki.24]

they need a 55%-65% off sale just to make prices somewhat reasonable ..

[@jaredroussel]

I'll do everything in my power to never buy from a dealership again after how they treated me during COVID. They ran my credit THEN informed me there was no inventory available and then made it absolutely clear that I was of no priority unless I was paying $1K-$3K on top of MSRP. I hope everyone lets those cars rust over until they buckle.

[@OOL-UV2]

Yep. The avalanche of money that the treasury pumped out during COVID (mostly without any justification) is what drove this catastrophe. They used COVID as a universal get rich quick scheme, and we’re living with the consequences.

[@beebob1279]

The cars and trucks today are absolute crap. Troubles with too many models.

[@mattfritch6375]

Not a single one of those 100k trucks is worth more than 35K. Good luck selling that shit. Piss poor build quality and terrible reliability makes them worth nothing IMHO. The Wrangler is the biggest turkey out of all of them. 100k for a Wrangler is peak stupid and sorry if you paid that much for one but a fool and his money are soon parted.

[@joseraimundo3387]

How are they poor quality ? They are just overpriced but not badly made

[@gauzpadsfred4089]

30k off a 130k truck.. good luck!

[@Johnny_Utah187]

My 300,000 mile Lexus still rides like a dream. Shifts smooth. And has plenty of power.

[@Dirty2Clean1980]

Me too😂

[@Denny_Dust]

What all maintenance have you had done aside from oil changes? I'm trying to make my high mileage vehicles last.

[@SHOPTALKTV999.9]

⁠replace your water pump ,timing and radiator hoses, it will last a long time

[@Johnny_Utah187]

@@Denny_Dust One transmission service. Water pump and timing belt every 100k. And oil changes. That’s it.

[@davidanderson8469]

@@Johnny_Utah187 I'm surprised you don't need motor mounts, swaybar bushings and other normal wear items. My independent Toyota shop replaces lots of parts with mileage on those.

[@mattusapparatus5968]

Now the manufacturers are doing what the dealers were doing 2 years ago. Overprice it by $60K then discount it $30K 😂

[@terrystates805]

I'm old enough to remember when no one ever heard of a doc fee and now some of them add 1000's to the price. What a scam

[@bud6961]

I remember 50k+ being BMW/Merc/Porsche money. Now it's for Fords, Toyotas and Hondas 😂.

[@garyfernandez8513]

111K for a Jeep that has one of the worst reliability records out there. Do they think we’re as stupid as they are.

[@faschwank]

It's cheaper and a better value to buy a restored classic as a daily driver. At least you get a better vehicle, that's easier to repair.

[@anonimous2451]

Not at today's restored prices. They want 35-90K for ancient shit that has a glossy finish. I even saw a POS Maverick with an I6 engine going for 9K. Like really? That's at best a $500 car.

[@CriticaLLout]

@@anonimous2451lol restored prices are triple what it costs when first released lol

[@anonimous2451]

@@CriticaLLout and that's the LOW End if everything goes right and no real big problems. Sometimes it's 10X or more that cost.

[@michaeltipton5500]

They can ask whatever they want. People will only buy what they can afford.

[@patricki7422]

Nah, lots of people lately buying way more than they can afford just to flex.

[@michaeltipton5500]

@@patricki7422 The repo man cometh.

[@bigtee4690]

​@@patricki7422EXACTLY!!!

[@asadianbelifont3875]

Top of the line F150, I wouldn't pay a cent more than $55k, and I really really need to love the truck. $100k+ for a damn truck is complete insanity. Overpricing the truck by $70k then taking $30k off is a rip off

[@danstrikker6465]

55k is way too much unless it's an F350 dualy

[@CriticaLLout]

These new vehicles shouldn’t even be past 39k

[@keithmann2607]

I wouldn't pay more than 35k for a brand new half ton. There ain't no way they're worth more then that!

[@cjsteele9594]

I make 130k per year, and im single, and no way would i pay that much!

[@GoatOffroad]

2008 bought a Rubicon. Special order from factory and paid 31,000. 3 year loan. I will never buy a new car again!

[@lows6427]

You will eventually when that garbage Chrysler engine blows up 😂

[@cjsteele9594]

@@lows6427 My 14 Ram looks and runs new. Its all about maintainance

[@musclesmouse]

I went to my Nissan dealership to buy my parts. Those salesmen are hungry.

[@Troystoy]

Been overpriced for years and finally catching up to these dealerships , let them over priced vehicles sit at ROT in my book !

[@SW-jw6il]

🍿 The shitshow is getting good now

[@Mr2MuchJuice4U]

It's not really a shyt show. Too many cars on the road. Raise the price of the new cars.

[@CriticaLLout]

@@Mr2MuchJuice4Uthat has nothing to do with it. Most people work and live in the same radius

[@cjsteele9594]

Greedy pricks, serves them right.

[@tghoran0369]

I got a GMC 1500 in 2011 it’s got 150k miles, it’s needed a few repairs over the years but it runs just fine and more importantly it’s been paid off for 10 years. To pay $100k for a truck now is insane.

[@cjsteele9594]

My 14 Ram is paid for, and runs and looks new, and the new super expensive trucks are junk.

[@KA9DSL]

I wonder how rusted the underbody or frame looks like?, the engine oil, transmission fluid, rusted brake rotors, vermin chewing on exposed wires underneath, rats nest, interior damage due to water leaking inside, etc ,etc,etc, New old stock. A buyers risk.

[@WheelsandWallets]

@KA9DSL That is a great point. Some of these new vehicles have been sitting there for over 500 days it’s terrible for a vehicle to sit like that outside

[@allenlindsey1175]

The coating on the wires are made of soy. Rats and mice love eating that estrogen producing stuff

[@stephencushing8148]

I’m glad I’m not the only one that can’t stomach the thought of 100k+ for a pickup truck. Plenty of em are even in the 120k ballpark.

[@lonewolfmcquade105]

Repos are way up in my town all the dealerships are full of cars that aren’t selling because they cost 70 to 110k

[@jamez_estrada82]

Since when TF did a Rubicon cost $111,000?! Those are $35-40k all day in my book. Jesus!

[@txbubba96]

Back in January I got out of a 2024 Chevy Silverado for an absolute base model 2023 Tacoma SR 4x4. I saw where the market was headed as shown in this video and wasn't too comfortable with the quality of the Chevy. I got more than I owed for the Chevy and got one of the last of the "simple" Tacomas before the new 2024s came out. Cheap payments and will be paid off early. After this, I'm done with car loans.

[@williamhartley4752]

The union is to blame as much as the car companies both greedy to the point of sawing the branch off behind them... deserve to fall to failure.

[@KellieRichardson-tl3xw]

I just rebuilt/restored my 2011 Ford Escape. I love it, and it will last many more years. New is not better. No car payment is freedom.

[@LancelotLink1]

7K off that Chevy still puts it over 100K after tax title & License. It should be 60K

[@gt_outdoorexcursions]

another 20k if you finance for 72 months for a truck that's worth 40K or less at the end of term.

[@dannydrew4706]

no more like 35K

[@basher5107]

Back in the day when car dealers actually negotiated 15% off msrp plus incentives would give you true cost. I have a 2013 Ram quad cab bighorn with towing and the Hemi and it has 21000 miles on it,all my driving is local so I’ll never buy another truck again as long as it’s not in an accident! Insurance companies have also taken over junk yards which is another level of frustration.

[@JohnLaursen-u9t]

Had a 1996 chevy conversion van for 22 years. Bought it with 12000 miles on it,2 year warranty, 10,000$ cheaper. I replaced the transmission, and fuel pump once each. The intake manifold gasket twice ( GM had finally made a decent gasket the 2nd time M.) AC had work done on it,but still worked the day I got rid of it. Still ran like a charm, but the frame was done. Over 300,000 miles! I got my monies worth. Still miss it.

[@Panotaker]

Every month I don’t buy a new truck, it’s like putting 2000 bucks in my pocket, because I don’t have to make a truck payment.

[@largol33t1]

A new problem is that not only were they too ridiculously expensive but also that they sat on stealership lots for too long. Now you run the big risk of Lot Rot. It happened to a guy in Arizona. He drove in from Nevada to buy a Ford truck because he got sick of waiting for prices to come down. The truck broke down when he was driving home from the stealership! Turns out mice had chewed away at the wires under the hood! That's why a $30K discount on a RAM pickup means nothing to me. It's also hardly budging in northern Texas. Checked out a few stealerships and the lot rot is bad. Many of the vehicles were so filthy that I couldn't read the window stickers. i gave up and went home. I'm sure they weren't marked down as I've checked around for over EIGHTEEN MONTHS. They can let them continue rotting.

[@twyiatv]

Yup! I just bought a crv. $4300 off msrp at 2.9% for 72 months! Had no choice! My last car was totaled! $34k for 2025 fully loaded! They can sell if they want to!

[@legion6277]

I just bought a 2000 cavalier for $600 had to replace the A/C compressor and tires and it runs fine and still has a shine to the paint.

[@Billy-vi8nu]

Those are bulletproof cars. I had an 02 cavalier back in the day, bought it brand new and wish I never traded it in. I drove it for 10 years and about 133k miles. The only thing I ever had to do to it was put a new fan motor in it. It even had the original clutch from the factory. Lasted the car’s entire life, I’m not bullshitting.

[@brewsandbass5572]

Two years ago, they would'nt take 1k off.

[@unacarafea567]

Cars are not selling well no matter what anyone says. It's not just domestic cars. I purchased a $32,000 sticker priced Toyota RAV4 Le (the base model) with a decent amount of added options at a crazy $28,000 with very little haggling. Left there thinking I could have pushed it even more. Jeep has some of the least reliable cars in the U.S. and they keep raising their prices. You have to be very naive to pay what they are asking.

[@antoniodagostino2291]

I remember when the only American made car over 100k was the corvettes before the pandemic.....now escalades are averaging 150k

[@Shredtires]

I used to love having a new car, but after this price ptsd. I bought a 13 sonic and drive it like it's a lexus. No payment. If it breaks, it's cheap. Thanks, big 3, for waking us up. My money is from hard work, and you are not having it or the bank from being upside down. Its theft.

[@JimThompson-i3u]

I doubt even a 50% discount would be enough to move them off the lot at this point. Who wants a Lot Rot special? That's too much of a gamble.

[@darrelldoty7757]

In the Dallas area they won’t really negotiate on Tahoe, Yukon or HD trucks. They think a 1-2k discount is fabulous on a truck that is priced about 20-30k to high to begin with and they won’t budge. 3 dealers let me walk out the door. You say they are starving but I’m not seeing that. At least not GM. Jeep yes, they are a good 15k off but they are so overpriced way beyond GM and Ford to begin with. And now with the 2025s they have zero discounts here.

[@MrTomengle]

I walked around my local Jeep dealer on a Sunday when they were closed. The prices were so far out of line that I did not come back when they were open for business.

[@jamesrichards2256]

Even if you get any so called discount the price is still ridiculous

[@CoyoteWoods-fm3gj]

Because they over priced there garbage by forty thousand dollars. Greed and filth let them closeup.

[@akaixl83]

I’ve got a 2020 f150 3.5 with 28k miles , paid off , I went in to dealer just looking , all 3 , gm , Ford and dodge . They won’t leave me alone , I like the gmc 2500 trucks the best but $88k + for a truck is nuts, the dealer said he’d give me a stupid deal $77k . I told him I’m good , just because I can afford it doesn’t mean I should . Looks like I’m going to keep my paid off truck instead . Let it Rot lol plus too many issues with the new ones

[@RJExpediting-rk7lr]

No car payments, No credit card payments, A home that is paid for. I will never buy a new vehicle and lose 20 grand or more in the first year of depreciation. Good luck fools that end up with a 700 dollar + payment and 72 month payment plan. Can you say STUPID!!!!!!!!

[@foxtrotwolf6081]

If you have no car payments, no credit card payments, and a home that is paid for, you can probably buy a car and pay it off with the first payment. The fact that you don't buy a car is how you got to the point where you could.

[@ezpe3865]

I paid off my car loan in May

[@TJOLLYRANCHER]

Some ppl like new er stuff”

[@dannydrew4706]

hell more than 20K more like half the cost of the vehicle

[@mrs.waight7326]

Hope they are learning!! No payment here!! Good luck crooks. Insurance too. Crooks..

[@andrewcannon205]

A vehicle is not an investment in any way, it’s a liability, a money pit that depreciates from the moment you drive it off the lot. I’d rather have no debt than a shiny new car that loses money every day.

[@joelb46]

The saddest part is that even at 50% off, they’re still making money

[@TerrySprey]

I stopped by the local GMC dealer to look at a Yukon Denali $98,000 are the car companies nuts! I priced one out online 4WD gas model loaded $105,000 they can go F themselves🤬

[@hugostiglitz8465]

Should be $50k at most.

[@jupiteral8217]

New cars and trucks are way overpriced, way too many bells and whistles which is just more shit to break and they basically have turned into rolling computers with engines that are almost impossible to work on yourself. Trucks especially have become bloated gas sucking buggies with no alternative small truck options on the market anymore. The industry fucked itself.

[@grumpynomad3551]

Still bit biting: I’m saving tons with no payment.

[@kanaletumlinson]

It’s about time the stealerships and manufacturers feel the pain the consumer had faced during/post COVID. With the dealer market adjustments a few years ago they though hmm let’s just charge an arm and a leg people will buy no matter what.. not so fast! Market needs to crash, it has been long overdue.. thanks for sharing this video

[@claytonsmith8646]

This is why I keep up grading my 01 F-250 with a 7.3 powerstroke.

[@nortonco-j7f]

2 massive things different in Australia that dealers could do in the USA to help sales. A) keep most your inventory off site and just have a few of each model on the lot to give the appearance that stock is flying out the door. B) don’t put any extras on the cars unless customers want them that way the customer can option any model exactly how they want.

[@mrfish3971]

25- 35k is the most I will pay for a newer truck my 08 is still runnin like a champ and I paid 17.5k for it new.

[@Justthemow]

Screw those discounts no one wants a new car @8% interest

[@bigbune]

They are going to need to go 70k off to sell anything, if not the dealer's bankruptcy will do it for them.

[@jesusalejandro9457]

The funny part is that after you have one of these trucks for 2 to 3 years and you want to sell it nobody wants it and you got to eat it

[@cjsteele9594]

😂

[@treboy]

Members they need us …. Bring back 4% interest rate and 45-55k trucks that is loaded

[@michaelloomis8762]

I bought my last new vehicle I will ever buy in 2018, a Ram 2500 limited with everything on it, $57,500.00. I shopped for over a year and got what I wanted for the price I thought was decent, same vehicle now in 2024 is almost 100k, I laugh at these prices and just keep driving. Usually keep my vehicles for 20 years, still driving my 2003 Dodge Ram also.

[@cjsteele9594]

My 14 Ram looks new, and drives great with 132k. NO PAYMENTS😀

[@Daylight-nu3rt]

They made these crappy vehicles, after the ran back in Trump's first term, and now they can't sell the junk. Good let em rot ..

[@Ahoooie]

30k off is a good start.But still not enough of a price drop.

[@fetc7283]

Getting rid of my TROUBLE FREE 21 Grand Cherokee and replacing it with a 24 Prius around easter was a great financial decision. Gas savings made it worth it alone and got good money for the Jeep before this crash also helped. Go woke go broke Stellantis.

[@thumperjdm]

That new Prius redesign is beautiful, and the car has a lot more power than the previous model. Great purchase, sir!

[@fetc7283]

@ Eh, it’s good and bad. Tires are very hard to get for it. Learned within 2 weeks of purchase when I hit a pothole and left pin in the sidewall. Waited 3 weeks for a replacement. Also ordering a windshield on a modern car like that one is a hassle. But yes I love the car otherwise. Still better than STELANTIS GARBAGE

[@scotthavarth9423]

apples to oranges you bought cherokee by mistake ? one is a off road suv and other a subcompact sedan LOL

[@anthropologo3496]

does woke = greed, is it a financial term...dont you really mean they priced their inventory beyond their traditional customer base and while some did sucker up and pay those inflated prices and markups...apparently others don't or won't...is that what you meant to say?

[@zombie2011]

"Go Woke, Go Broke?" You bought a Prius....

[@henrybuzzard4705]

What's crazy is my 99 Dodge ram 360 still runs fine with 175000 miles when I got guys coming in with 2020 plus models with major issues

[@cjsteele9594]

My 14 Ram runs and looks new. NO PAYMENTS😀

[@NetBogey2019]

Let that shit rot!!!! Pickups should 25-35K. Ridiculous!

[@turnne]

Stellantis has to be in the worst position...They have thousands of new 2023s sitting on dealer lots as 2025 models are rolling in. if you buy one of these " new" 2023's you have to know that its a 2 year old car as soon as you drive it off the lot

[@cjsteele9594]

Plus sitting for 2 years. Lot Rot.

[@somethingclever1234]

120K? ok, I'll give you my "lowest number" call me when you hit $40K (driveout), and I'll want an extended warranty included.

[@cloutchasingkev5779]

❤️🖤💙 i own a 2019 392 Daytona fully loaded paid $47.000 out the door I live directly across the street from the Dodge dealership, they call me every day trying to get me to come in. When Dodge made the last call on Chargers and challengers, they played a very dangerous game charging people $70,000 for Scat packs$ 80 ,000 for hell cats over a $100 ,000 for demons with markups. And people went for it So I blame Dodge. For that market, crashing because right after they did it, everybody else followed suit. They have brand new hellcats sitting 40 yd away from my house, I walk outside. Look at them and laugh. Not to mention These cars have been sitting there for almost 2 years and not one of them has moved not even a test drive 😂

[@davidanderson8469]

1.5% interest loans back then.

[@sulaco2122]

Was looking for a new Toyota Tacoma and refused to buy at those prices. Got a call from a salesperson I talked to and he was singing that the prices are plunging now. I asked him for a ballpark average, and he said 35K for a SEVEN-YEAR-OLD TRUCK. Hung up.

[@captaincoffeecake3595]

this is what happens when you let predatory loans run wild , all the morons who couldnt even afford to finance a cheeseburger got loans for WAY more then they ever could afford are all used up . people who common financial sense wont pay these prices and take 12% interest even with 800 credit scores. same with houses too. there is a big difference in the value of something and the cost of it .

[@hbebee1]

Historically, this has been the trend every time the auto industry over inflates prices. That "balloon" was created during the pandemic. Baloons will always bust at some point. Many, like myself, just decided to drive my current car until the wheels fall off when they started (over) inflating prices.

[@ronsilva516]

You are so correct to high and they screwed there customer base no it pay back time

[@TJOLLYRANCHER]

Agree agree. But salespeople don’t discount too much off at all. Looking at 23 challengers. Still want base price. Even though most have been sitting for 600 days

[@jeffharmon7960]

30k off after mark up of 200percent. Freaking joke. If people quit paying these prices they'll eventually have to come back to reality. Wake up

[@boatlakemead1]

I tried to buy a used Frontier on December 8 2025. I have a true 850 credit score. I’m the easiest person you could sell a car too. The dealer wanted $3800 in dealer add ons. It’s a 2024 Frontier!!! They are killing themselves. I walked out. We could have done a deal in 30 minutes but they tried to screw me as soon as I walked in the door. I laughed knowing the salesman is literally starving for a sale still shoot themselves in the foot.

[@leonardpoindexter5289]

Screw em, I wouldn’t have one even if it was free.

[@mussim2919]

I’m with you on that.

[@roberts.3712]

This is what happens when you bail out these companies and they think they can never go bankrupt. Government is the reason that they do this plus the large amount of recalls is costing them a fortune.

[@MichaelRobinson-lt6ee]

Your absolutely correct behind dealerships and car Manufacturers the culprit is the government , each year more laws are added to restrict control everything and everyone , it's the government that fights against the American public

[@AuburnTiger1]

Amen brother…let them rot, rust and just plain cost the dealers and auto industry tons of greedy money! I have an 18 year old vehicle, that I absolutely love, and will continue drive it…it’s a Honda and we all know they’re made to last! I’ve taken very good care of it so it would last! I also have a six year old Chevy Silverado, taking care of it so it will last. Would never pay these greedy prices they are asking now…I’ll walk first!

[@Dan_BCtoAZ]

In March of 2020 I bought a 2019 Toyota Tundra off the dealer lot, it was a trade-in, for $33,000 all-in. I will never buy a new truck, depreciation, or get rid of my truck unless the market resets itself, these prices are ridiculous.

[@dugie5246]

I'm friends with my auto insurance agent. We were discussing this issue and he said the insurance industry is not covering purchase price of new vehicles. The dealer usually knows how much to get customers to put down knowing if you drive it off the lot and wrecks and totals vehicle 2 weeks later, vehicle is worth about 75% of purchase price. Insurance companies ain't gonna pay more than vehicle worth.

[@dave3657]

I would go to my credit union/bank first and ask what they would loan on the vehicle you want to buy. Then make that offer, cash on the barrel head to a dealer. Of course they want to finance, but you already know what your payments will be. If they don’t want to sell you a vehicle, walk. Try another dealer.

[@jeffreybodean7300]

Too ugly,too much plastic,too many computers,and way over priced.

[@nocturnallips]

Im hearing about sales men arguing, damn near coming to blows over one customer coming in for a test drive, after another sales person grab his customer, its nasty out there bruh!

[@jamessmith785]

LOL a 47 thousand dollar dodge hornet. Good luck selling that

[@St8yaname]

Let this sink in……. If people were continuing to buy, they’d NEVER lower the prices……… so “now” knockin off a few grand?????? Nope! In the words of DJ kalahad, “congraduations, you played yourself”.

[@mussim2919]

Have a lot of issues! Issues after issues and it’s over priced! No body wants over priced truck with a lot of issues. $35k discount and still no one wants to buy lol. Too expensive!