In the several decades I’ve been playing, nobody has ever told me to keep my head in a position the way Shaun does at 1:35. I know he’s exaggerating to make a point, but it’s still ridiculous. I’ve only heard to let the shoulders bring the head up in the follow-through. It has always been about watching the ball through contact however that needs to be done. I obviously can’t speak for most golfers and it’s very possible what they’re suggesting is often taught, but I’ve never seen it. I used to have a big problem with swaying until I learned to keep my head relatively still. That doesn’t mean it doesn’t rotate, it just means that there is much less movement backward and forward, away from or toward the target.
@golfatit31402 жыл бұрын
This actually helped me with proper weight shift ! Love this channel !!! Thank you fellas !!
@georgetinwick34502 жыл бұрын
Amazing insight and instructions for this often overlooked topic by instructors about this critical move in the golf swing i think i finally got it l have not paid much attention to head positions prior to this video .many tks
@scottwarner10173 жыл бұрын
I had a friend tell I was moving my head a little off the ball in the back swing & a little through after impact. I am hitting the ball really well & that's what I want. I checked my head movement with a shadow on the ground drill. I am rotating around my neck spine position. It looks exactly as your examples. I'm going to ignore his advice. I loved your video, it confirmed I'm swing well.
@golfmad13813 жыл бұрын
Noticed recently that my head dips during the backswing. I know in this video you talk about the head having its own swing but I dip what I would call quite severe. Any initial thoughts on whether this is something to look at or not worry about?
@gtflyer4 жыл бұрын
I have a twisted and curved spine, and arthritis in my lower back..Early on I had instructors tell me that I needed to keep my head still, well, you can imagine the problems this caused for me. So, I stopped taking lessons for some years. During which time, I developed some bad habits. Then I met my current golf friend, who is a very good player, and he asked why I kept my head so still, I told him, then he told, try and keep your eye on the ball, but let your head move some. Well, that opened a few new doors for me, I still have ac couple of swing issues, some you guys have helped me fix. Thanks, and keep up the good work..
@AthleticMotionGolf4 жыл бұрын
Great points! Thank you for sharing, I'm sure that will resonate with other who will read that👊
@simondavenport5931 Жыл бұрын
Great video once again, at some point would you consider doing a more detailed analysis regarding eye dominance in the golf swing. Iam right eye dominant and right handed, and i think this has caused some neck issues for me. I believe 80 percent of us are right eye dominant and I would be interested to hear your take on this and how eye dominance affects, head position and movement, length of backswing, weight shift etc. Thank you. 😊
@mattirwin31244 жыл бұрын
Do you have a drill to keep the head from moving down during the backswing? From left arm parallel to the top mine goes down a few inches & towards the ball a little too. Thanks.
@chuckgame42103 жыл бұрын
I see pros head move down in the backswing. Do you?
@shredtabulous4 жыл бұрын
Is it ok if the head goes down a little in the backswing? And then little more on the through swing? Seemed like a common pattern in the pros
@swthomo4 жыл бұрын
What about head movement from down the line, in towards the ball and back away?
@jsee2385 Жыл бұрын
That big green circle is showing that. When the head moves forward as from DTL the blue hate comes through/forward from face on view.
@historicus1464 жыл бұрын
The trigger of rotating the head to put the left eye on the ball....very important for right swinging/ left eye dominant people. Snead, Hogan, Nicklaus....all did this. It starts the swing, and gives the sensation of being behind the ball, promotes the turn. I am left eye dominant. If I catch myself focusing on ball at address with my right eye, getting the backswing started feels severely inhibited. Left eye on ball gets my right side square instead of hanging out over ball. Eye dominance huge IMO. Idea for another video? Thanks for the vid.
@AthleticMotionGolf4 жыл бұрын
Good comments and idea👊
@tthompson95093 жыл бұрын
This video point out the exact problem I'm having. I just started golfing a few months ago. Although I know I'm supposed to rotate my shoulder and follow through, I kept doing the chicken wing and my head kept moving forward when I finished. Very frustrating.
@crispyduck17064 жыл бұрын
Despite me playing for years Am still struggling between the ears Just need to get my head moving right and will be hitting the ball out of sight
@AthleticMotionGolf4 жыл бұрын
Your'e a Poet and didn't Know it :)
@jboy57444 жыл бұрын
Does that make you a lefty or no rhyme available for that head movement. Anika moved her head she knows where the ball is at impact she is more interested where it’s going.
@jtonne30574 жыл бұрын
Your vids are very informative, thank you! Would you please cover the difference in setup and swing characteristics in golfers of different heights. I’m 6’3 and struggle getting my upper body moving over my lower body on the downswing, resulting in blocks with my woods and pulls with my irons.
@AthleticMotionGolf4 жыл бұрын
We will shoot a video on this :)
@jtonne30574 жыл бұрын
Awesome, thanks!
@Gaber19834 жыл бұрын
What a great explanation of moving the head...I'm guilty of trying to hold my head in place - rotating not moving my head is giving me a better view of impact and follow through! Keep it up AMG you guys are awesome! GaberGolf
@adamlindahl6274 жыл бұрын
Man, I just recorded some swings in slow motion from down the line, uploaded it to some analyzer app where I can draw on it, and noticed my head moving possibly more than I thought it should, but wasn't sure. I thought, "wonder if those AMG guys have a head movement video" so I went to KZbin and this video was the first recommended video on my homepage. Creepy, but very convenient! Love the videos and how thorough you two are in exploring the data and relaying it to us in an easy-to-understand way. Thanks!
@cubfan69kmz852 жыл бұрын
I notice that from down the line my head will move slightly down in the backswing and it works it’s way close to where it started by impact. If contact is relatively good, is that movement acceptable or should I be working on staying more level?
@AthleticMotionGolf2 жыл бұрын
perfectly fine👊
@trebor57603 жыл бұрын
All the ball positions with a seven iron are under the left shoulder? Video discusses stuff I def need to address. Thank you
@adefields2 жыл бұрын
Hi. My head goes away from the ball at impact. It’s pretty good until club parallel but then during the release it really moves down and away giving me the reverse c follow through. Any drills to work on this?
@Rptyler74 жыл бұрын
Gr8 video guys. I sway off the ball big time. Your videos have helped me not swinging with flat shoulders (been a huge help) found that I (thru filming) turn the club off line at the top of the swing (like Fred Couples) & think this may be my right elbow position. Do you have a video on this or can you speak to it (top of the swing hints or positions) I feel like my right elbow gets to maybe 5 o’clock below my hand or to the right should it swing more to 7 o’clock below my hand (when it’s doing the tray of meatballs)
@AthleticMotionGolf4 жыл бұрын
We have lots of backswing videos where we discuss the arm position. I'll try to find a good one and send it to you
@chedley1002 жыл бұрын
Could you guys do a video looking at proper “head depth” throughout the swing? I think an overhead view would be best to capture what I’m trying to understand. I’m told I should keep my head depth in the same position at impact as I have at address. So in an overhead view I would be curious to see, at impact, if pros’ move back behind where the head started at address.
@AthleticMotionGolf2 жыл бұрын
from which perspective? Head closer or father away from target line?
@Rptyler74 жыл бұрын
Man, I just ❤️ the channel. especially the avatar videos with the gears. Gives gr8 evidence & provides me new ideas to go practice all the time. Up here in Alaska so practicing indoors eagerly anticipating summer. ❤️ the idea that some head movement is actually good (athletic motion). Serious question (because I have issues) about the backswing terminology. Hogan ‘lean in’ & Snead ‘squat’. Could use some clearing up. Seems to me that there are so many different ways to use the hips in the takeaway, transition & downswing. I’m a bit confused on perhaps ‘feels’ or if everyone is just moving different & us average golfers are to choose a style or path to take. Seems to me copying Hogan, Snead & your breakdowns are all great ideas. But is Hogan’s lean in the same as Sam Sneads squat (where his knees almost separate) ? Seems that doing a takeaway, lean in, squat & rotate is a bit much to do & makes it difficult (for me anyway) to not rush the down swing. Seems like the ‘lean in’ is more of a continuation of going towards to the ball around our backsides as where the Snead ‘squat’ is more of a move forward towards the front left foot. What is a guy to do ? Please explain ...
@AthleticMotionGolf4 жыл бұрын
We are putting together a squat video as we speak! It will shed some light on this for you :)
@blacklight44604 жыл бұрын
The most effective people do "what works". With guys like this putting out solid gold infotech on the swing for free, it's a great time to put the work in and get better
@robertlozano6546 Жыл бұрын
AMG guys. My issue is sliding my whole upper body forward in downswing. As you said the body issues cause the head to move. Any suggestions for keeping the body back more ? I know it's a sequence issue I think. Thanks
@rickmetz71534 жыл бұрын
Do you all have any tips or videos for someone who moves their head down at impact? My head is fine on the backswing but I start move my face down towards the ball from the top.
@scottjohnson40284 жыл бұрын
Hi Boys from Aus and thanks for the great content. I noticed from your model his head was going down and forward towards the ball slightly. I am trying to maintain height (feeling like I’m getting taller) in my backswing and avoiding moving forward. Would this be something you would suggest I aim for? Cheers
@aaronconsaul66454 жыл бұрын
Good stuff, I actually bought two microphone stands and some pool noodles... one to help track my head movements and one to watch where my backside (butt) was going (forward and back). My head movement was way off, i was trying to keep it still, that seemed to flatten out my shoulder movement and I was hitting the ball inconsistent, it also got me imbalanced so that my hips were coming forward and I was houzelling the ball on miss hits. I fixed the head movement and the rest got better instantly.
@AthleticMotionGolf4 жыл бұрын
Love it! Nice use of training aids. Feedback is crucial for improvement!!
@MichaelShinosky4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the videos showing the golfers with their head movements. My head moves forward past the ball then back in the downswing. I was told this was a fault. Now I know its not and its a huge part of generating speed. Not the head moving forward per se but as part of the motion for speed. Wish I never went to these teachers. Now I'm stuck in thought at the ball. How do I go about just feeling the shot when at the ball? I'm a plus handicapp and now a head case.
@AthleticMotionGolf4 жыл бұрын
It's helpful to have a swing trigger then swing away...we like to teach lifting the trail heel very slightly before you take the club away. Watch some old videos of Sam Snead for an exaggerated look at the move :)
@MichaelShinosky4 жыл бұрын
@@AthleticMotionGolf Thanks for the suggestion. I use to forward press with the hands as a swing trigger. Unfortunately I was told to stop doing that as well. Nothing else works as a trigger except for a forward press which I was doing without even knowing it. Now I'm stuck consciously forward pressing which doesn't have the same effect. But thanks to this video - I went to the range and started feeling some confidence and yesterday shot a bogey free 65 which was nice. Just went right up to the ball and tried hard to not care about my setup and just feel the target which let myself hit the shot to get it there. Did the same thing on and around the greens.
@Ba5bellaire4 жыл бұрын
Great stuff! Do yall have any videos for hooks/overdraws? On Trackman, my path is getting far right, but my club face is really shut. I can see that the center of my pelvis is getting ahead of my sternum, and my spine is tilting back from a FO view.
@AthleticMotionGolf4 жыл бұрын
Look at our hitting a fade video. It sounds like you've just gradually become to draw biased. Working on some fade elements will get you more neutral👍
@Rich-in6ds Жыл бұрын
What would you say for someone who has the opposite problem where they let their head rotate and fall back onto their trail side so their trail side starts to be curved?
@AthleticMotionGolf Жыл бұрын
Could be hanging back for a few reasons. I would watch our pivot videos here on KZbin
@detlefstronk94794 жыл бұрын
The Mike Austin type of swing says that you have to swing centralized around the upper end of the spine being still and that avoids back pain. Nevertheless you get optimal ball speed by the compound pivot and the throwing motion. What do you think?
@AthleticMotionGolf4 жыл бұрын
Detlef Stronk the upper end of the spine is definitely not still. If Mike had access to the tools available today, he would revise some of his ideas.
@detlefstronk94794 жыл бұрын
Athletic Motion Golf do you mean „is not still“?
@AthleticMotionGolf4 жыл бұрын
Detlef Stronk yes, NOT still👍
@adl97052 жыл бұрын
wow this video is fantastic thank you all so much.
@OpaKnows4 жыл бұрын
Good lesson. Are you offering a discount code for the LiveView camera? Just wondering.
@AthleticMotionGolf4 жыл бұрын
Yessir... liveviewsports.com/amg The discount will be automatically applied at checkout👍
@paulg98214 жыл бұрын
If your videos were longer, I would still watch them! Keep it up fellas!
@AthleticMotionGolf4 жыл бұрын
Thank you brother!
@robsaxepga4 жыл бұрын
The pros in the split screen look like the head moves and rotates back then posts up (getting centered over the ball) then moves back then up which is not what I'm getting you're describing. Am I missing something? Great video, again!
@AthleticMotionGolf4 жыл бұрын
Rob's Axe you do t see any forward movements?🤓
@robsaxepga4 жыл бұрын
@@AthleticMotionGolf no I do see forward movement just, like you guys always say, from just before the top but it stops, the arms swing past the center then the head comes up with the right shoulder. Nicklaus did that too. Like "swinging the bucket of water" move. I didn't include the"forward" in the first comment (on my phone). Thanks
@AthleticMotionGolf4 жыл бұрын
Rob's Axe it was pretty eye opening placing all these great players’ head movements in succession like this. Makes u wonder how head still became a thing.
@robsaxepga4 жыл бұрын
@@AthleticMotionGolf LOL! No kidding. I was out with a run of the mill pro the other day and he was telling my son "keep your head still!" I immediately told my son to ignore that advice as none of the best players do that. What is amazing to me is how much of an effect the head has in the swing. Speed, a firm left leg, arm extension, lag... are all affected by the head. Most teaching pros just don't get that.
@AthleticMotionGolf4 жыл бұрын
Rob's Axe so true and the weight of the head is substantial especially when it starts working against us
@gunnarjinx4 жыл бұрын
Would really love to see a video about shorter Driver shafts .... as in WHY not buy the 45 inch shaft and just grab it lower = i do with great results .... AND i can get the full length when i need or want. Of course if u buy the shorter one u cannot add inches. So WHY buy a shorter one? What really should u buy?!
@AthleticMotionGolf4 жыл бұрын
Gunnar Hreiðarsson gotta but the length you hit best. I like your thinking of though, 2 shafts in one🤓👍
@sevenoranges3 жыл бұрын
Good video... but I wish I could say this to all coaches who make KZbin videos - please don't exaggerate any of the movements which are faulty. People watch the video and say oh that's not me - I don't do that. If one could illustrate a regular common movement however subtle and teach us how to pick up the cues I think a lot of watchers might relate to the teaching better. Just a thought.
@tonylombard99914 жыл бұрын
so the avatars in this video are the driver swing and shawn displays iron swing...right?
@golfinatty14 жыл бұрын
Guys- those of us who have played golf for 50+ yrs, were taught in the 60’s to drive the knees left to start the downswing have had many rounds where this move caused Big blocks and flip hooks. You have been banging us gently to get the BS right with pressure moving to the left leg early. But this is the missing link for us old guys to stay stacked with your chest more centered over the hips at impact. This is the key to effortless power so keep holding our heads to this concept of making the proper head movement!
@AthleticMotionGolf4 жыл бұрын
Yessir👊
@robsaxepga Жыл бұрын
Alex Morrison, whose book I'm reading now, emphasizes pointing the chin at a point somewhere behind the ball and says the head motion is independent of the swing. (Has a swing of its own, in other words) I recently discovered my chin is going on a short ride on my left shoulder in transition. Not good. 👎
@sw-sq5gk Жыл бұрын
Basically the head stays still. until after impact. Question of definition
@havenrab3 жыл бұрын
Man this is number 2 after understanding wrist position thru impact then moves backwards and rotate s
@AndreShihTCM4 жыл бұрын
where is the link for the live view camera?
@AthleticMotionGolf4 жыл бұрын
Andre Shih TCM & Acupuncture Burnaby athleticmotiongolf.com/liveview
@mattnilsen11994 жыл бұрын
ive always believed eyes down on the ball, if you keep the head down it restricts the golf swing
@AthleticMotionGolf4 жыл бұрын
Very true, great point👊
@josettest-aubin73912 жыл бұрын
Awesome!! This CURED my chicken wing and my husband’s teasing all at once!😎🥳
@dondon-py8np3 жыл бұрын
Try hitting a golf ball while looking at it. The swing pulls your head up. Tiger woods keeps is head down
@AthleticMotionGolf4 жыл бұрын
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@richardoakley65604 жыл бұрын
It’s a perception/feel versus reality thing. If it works as a picture, you use it.
@dnailit385 Жыл бұрын
i like when I watch one of your vids and you don't show me anything new. 👌🏾
@AthleticMotionGolf Жыл бұрын
Already knowing everything must be a tough cross to bare
@BinoRucker2 жыл бұрын
had some chump at range tell me to not move my head, pretend i was in a barrell; i felt like saying: are you agolf instructor?? wtf? thanks for this video
@winzaw69024 жыл бұрын
Why doesn't Mike Granato ever demonstrate?
@AthleticMotionGolf4 жыл бұрын
There are a few video structure reasons, but the main reason is his back. We shoot for several hours at a time. He has 6 screws in his back and making a couple random swings after standing around all day doesn't typically put a smile on his face lol. That being said, he did get a warm-up before the last shoot started so you will see him demonstrate in an upcoming video.
@danielkelly87563 жыл бұрын
Keeping your head down is really important and it makes perfect sense. It gives you a focal point, the ball, which is the thing you're trying to hit. Also the head remains still and down and the arms and the rest of the swing rotate around it. The head will naturally come up if you keep it down. Lifting too early can and often pulls you up off the ball and does make you top it. Annoying when people try and nit pick good advice. I heard someone say intelligence is taking something complicated and making it simple. This kind of advice of keeping your head down, is a simplified and condensed piece of knowledge which helps people. Your really long video with all sorts of ideas and diagrams etc is the opposite.
@AthleticMotionGolf3 жыл бұрын
Yep, saying keep you head down and still is simple and concise. It’s also one of the worst things you could ever tell someone. If simply wrong was the goal, you nailed it.
@danielkelly87563 жыл бұрын
@@AthleticMotionGolf Nope not true and you're wrong and just being pedantic. Its intelligent advice basically telling you not to come up out of the shot until you've struck the ball. Which is a simple tip and also by looking at the ball your focusing on where your making impact which is going to result in a better strike.
@AthleticMotionGolf3 жыл бұрын
@@danielkelly8756 This is why it's alway best to leave the instruction to the professionals. You started off by making a lengthy post just to take a shot at our video. Citing the head should remain still. Which is patently wrong proven by the thousands of professional swings we've captured by placing 3 sensors on the head and tracking its movement. So you're not arguing with us, you're arguing that EVERY great player we've captured is wrong. Instead of acknowledging that incorrect statement, you're changing it to keeping your eye on the ball. Which has nothing to do with anything we've ever said in this or any other video. I doubt you'll find any competent instructor who advise not looking at the ball, but that is NOT the same as keeping your head down and still. There's rich irony in the fact that your simple and concise first comment was objectively wrong. Now needing to veer off the topic of the video to expand and complicate what you originally said, lol. Maybe your threshold for intelligence should also include something about being accurate and correct. Just a thought.
@havenrab3 жыл бұрын
Watch the button on the hat it moves backwards
@TomGreenwood-km9fg11 ай бұрын
I've seen enough top level golfers at impact. Almost ALL of them have their head moving towards the right (for right handed golfers) prior to impact. Check out Sahith Theegala.
@tipsy094 жыл бұрын
Keep your head down is good advice when you’re with your gf and not your golf ball
@allyloogs4 жыл бұрын
You must be tipsy writing a comment like that.
@ccmorgan534 жыл бұрын
I just want my eyes on the ball lol . Not keep head down
@johnclare93553 жыл бұрын
I just finished reading through these golf swing strategies , Jοmtοnο Naha (Go ogle it) last week before going out and putting the routines to the test. I had been at it for 30 years, but I was shocked that my swinging abilities was still improved. In addition to that, the practice drills also helped optimize some small but essential positions that I used to think did not mean much.
@dondon-py8np3 жыл бұрын
2 of the best didn’t even look at the ball. OK 2. Swear to god telling a amateur to not keep there head down is stupid
@AthleticMotionGolf3 жыл бұрын
How many ams do you work with daily?
@heatherpearson2142 жыл бұрын
Myb
@jeffreykatzmann28684 жыл бұрын
If your videos were shorter I would watch
@AthleticMotionGolf4 жыл бұрын
It's your swing. Watch or don't watch whatever you want.
@ccmorgan534 жыл бұрын
My fault is not watching ball . Not worried about head moving just eyes
@AthleticMotionGolf4 жыл бұрын
A lot really good golfers don't watch the ball either😊
@ccmorgan534 жыл бұрын
I think I blame this instead of bad swing for chunking 😂😂
@ccmorgan534 жыл бұрын
😂😂 I think I blame the chunking on my head and not swing so making it worse . Can sweep ground easily when eyes are closed 😂