Interview with Machon Shilo's Rabbi David Bar-Hayim Visit us at www.MachonShilo.org
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@jmp0718994 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for this video! It gives me great joy to see the original (and proper) pronunciation preserved. Shalom aleihem!
@learnhowtothink11164 жыл бұрын
whoever truly wish to learn the original correct form of ancient hebrew pronunciation I, as a native hebrew speaker who knows the basics of arabic , deeply recommend you to learn the arabic and aramaic pronunciation. the ancient Hebrew spoken by our ancestors the Israelites, definitely sounded much more like the nowadays arabic and the syrian aramaic dialect than its modern castrated one-dimensional synthetic version mixed and contaminated with foreign phonetic influences mostly of european languages. for me as a hebrew speaker, pronouncing arabic is way more easy and effortless task than pronouncing english or any other non-semitic language alike, although my main talent regarding language learning is my prominent ability to "catch" the phonetic structure or accent immediately and pronounce the words correctly. there are no other languages in the whole world which are deeply connected and close to hebrew than these two. it's such a sad fact that both nations, arabs and jews in this age and time are engaging into this seemingly endless geopolitical bloody conflict instead of mutually benefiting each other by sharing the treasures of their glorious ancient cultures and languages. being one that studied judaism for many years and as well is very familiar with islam and arabic, I know perfectly well how judasim and islam, hebrew and arabic are so interconnected and even similar in many of their significant core aspects.
@ribalabdelkarim42114 жыл бұрын
You are right brother, as an Arabic native speaker i find it easy to differentiate between the similar letters . And i think it is mandatory for Hebrew speakers to pronounce the letters correctly as our semitic ancestors did.
@ribalabdelkarim42114 жыл бұрын
I am studying Hebrew and syriac for the fact that as Lebanese these 3 languages are the languages my ancestors used and the Lebanese dialect is tremendously influenced by them.
@ary25274 жыл бұрын
The (ע) sounds like (ع), (ט) sounds like (ط)
@deakhanani3 жыл бұрын
You ARE NOT GOD. How dare you disrespect HASHEM!!!
@wagdywilliam18692 жыл бұрын
Do not forget that who had a great deal to share with and a chief role in creating what is called a new religion in the arabic desert is an Israeli tribe that was later fell bloody massacred by the arabic gnomes. This is a historical proofs.
@ramses01014 жыл бұрын
This well educated rabbi explains very well . Most of sounds of ancient hebrew are very close to classical arabic pronunciation. Well slso noting that ancient hebrew is older than arabic, but the roots are the same on the point of pronounciation
@Carlos.PerlaRE6 жыл бұрын
This Rabbi could take a silly subject and make it sound like it is something of great importance. Note I am not saying this subject is unimportant just trying to point out how smooth he is. Great videos.
@zackmano3 жыл бұрын
Interesting note on the ע: Portuguese Jews pronounce it as an "ng" sound (similar to what the rav described in the Ashkenazi "Yangkif"). For example, יעקב would be "yang-ga-kov", שמע "she-mang", and מעשה "mang-ga-se", etc. Perhaps that is a vestigial pronunciation of what more Ashkenazim did centuries ago and was only preserved in Portugal. I always say, if you put a Teimani in Poland, eventually his great grandchildren will sound like Ashkenazim today. It's a slow, but obvious progression.
@ahmadaufar90202 жыл бұрын
I don't know whether this is coincidence or not, but the Javanese sometimes pronounce arabic 'Ayn as Ngayn too
@gerryjames97205 жыл бұрын
Oh My! I feel like the frog in love with the princess. I love this people and I’m falling in love with the language, but, like the thoughts of the Almighty, it is too wonderful for me to comprehend.
@fruitseat57885 жыл бұрын
that is called laziness
@wb18474 жыл бұрын
So, from this video, the Arabic speakers pronounce Hebrew better than Hebrew speakers....
@hyperion31454 жыл бұрын
Considering how Arabic is a Semetic language that has largely not changed, it'd make sense. Modern Hebrew takes a lot from European languages.
@christofferraby4712 Жыл бұрын
@@hyperion3145 Best Hebrew pronunciation in modern day Israel is from the Yemenite Jews.
@everythingtorah Жыл бұрын
@@christofferraby4712 Iraqis and the Syrians who pronounce ו as waw instead vav like some of them do
@screamtoasigh99849 ай бұрын
He makes a number of false claims. Because the invasion of Islam destroyed any remnant of what would have been. You can't use Arabic or Assyrian Aramaic - which was also Arabized as an example. Hebrew is the ONLY living language in its language family. Using Arabic to show what Hebrew would have been is as bad as using English slaveholders to show how African slaves talked.
@screamtoasigh99849 ай бұрын
They are Arab speakers. Genetically and linguistically they were not isolated as other communities. Why are they pointed to? Arabicfetishizers.@@christofferraby4712
@matthewheald89643 ай бұрын
As a (Mandarin) Chinese speaker, I just want to say that there are no guttural consonants in standard Chinese; there are some sounds that may be considered close enough to cause confusion (the "ain" sound may be considered similar to the 3rd tone and the "sh" sound may have here been confused with the "s'adi"), but they are not the same thing and are in fact quite distinct in spite of their similarities. That being said, great video!
@israelaol30563 жыл бұрын
Thank you very very much Beloved Brother, TODA RABA
@coffeemachtspass10 жыл бұрын
Helpful. Thanks.
@mokkorista Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@johnnysantos39977 жыл бұрын
Lot of these letters are extremely similar to the paleo hebrew & Greek. Pretty Cool..
@jomana11093 жыл бұрын
Are there any resources to learn Hebrew with authentic pronunciation? Not the modern one.
@Majeed.6 жыл бұрын
There's no ع 'Ayn sound in Chinese. Thank you for the elaboration
@benavraham43975 жыл бұрын
In the Salish native American laguage of Orogon, there is a sound that many linguists consider close to the Semitic 'Ayin. Aside from that, Het and 'Ayin are unique to Afro-Asiatic (Hamito-Semitic) languages.
@user-oy3oo8cu3j5 жыл бұрын
Yes there is some words in Chinese that’s close to the Ayn sound i work in China
@mysteriumvitae53384 жыл бұрын
There probably was such a sound in Old Chinese, the even pre-Wenyan one, I think. But, given the obviously non-phonetical nature of Chinese script (not _completely_ non-phonetical, though!), the scientific approximations to the truth are probably _very_ approximate here.
@stevenv64633 жыл бұрын
Yeah I agree with you strictly. But ع sounds close to the rising falling tone in words like 我,哪,etc. At least if I were teaching an Arabic speaker Chinese or a Chinese speaker Arabic I would start here with this sound to approximate it.
@matthewheald89643 ай бұрын
@@user-oy3oo8cu3j standard Chinese (Mandarin) or one of the other languages (Cantonese, Hakka, Hokkien, etc.)?
@RudydeGroot4 жыл бұрын
So what about the prayer: Baruch Adonai hamoworach le'olam wa'ed. (Excuse my Dutch transliteration.) There are two ajin's in there. The latter I already pronounce with a guttural, as wa'ed, hence the apostrophe. But what about le'olam? How was / should this originally (be) pronounced?
@morehn4 жыл бұрын
Leolam is the same later ayin. No reason it would be different.
@aminaz17784 жыл бұрын
Teimani Hebrew is like pre-king Salomon Hebrew, but languages are alive and change throughout time. But Yemeni hebrew sounds like the Ashkenazi pronunciation
@scottsterling76595 жыл бұрын
צ shocked me
@whydoIneedone8462 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised you didn't speak more about the Lamed, I am really quite doubtful that it is the same as the English L which is actually very unique among languages and I believe does not exist in either Aramaic or Arabic. Even modern Hebrew has a different pronunciation for this and Arabic has yet another sound. Please elaboration would be nice.
@screamtoasigh99849 ай бұрын
We actually don't know. He makes a number of false claims. Because the invasion of Islam destroyed any remnant of what would have been. You can't use Arabic or Assyrian Aramaic - which was also Arabized as an example. Hebrew is the ONLY living language in its language family.
@schellstarr6 жыл бұрын
Todah
@6D1R2E Жыл бұрын
Where is these extra dots and whatnot in the paleohebrew? Ezekiel 35.
@dailyoneenglish217620 күн бұрын
I was watching this video for these similar sounding consonants but I couldn't get that. I don't know why they just came with these simple words. Atleast instead of L,m,n,s they could have told those similar sounding letters which offen people get confused.....
@yehudamakarov Жыл бұрын
I don’t understand how the tzadi is different than a samech and an ayin together
@ajarnwordsmith628 Жыл бұрын
Where was the Rabbi born? He speaks Anglo-English with an RP accent. Almost.
@aminaz17784 жыл бұрын
ت،ص،س their hebrew equivalents:tsade,shin and sameh,I'm not a phonetician but i worked it out because Hebrew, Arabic, Abyssinian, Aramaic belong to the same family tree
@eliesakroudi57833 жыл бұрын
You dicided to use the ashkenazi corrupted sounds
@jamesworley98882 жыл бұрын
Anyone that wants to speak about or in Hebrew Culture should be very aware of these important pronunciations,
@screamtoasigh99849 ай бұрын
He makes a number of false claims. Because the invasion of Islam destroyed any remnant of what would have been. You can't use Arabic or Assyrian Aramaic - which was also Arabized as an example. Hebrew is the ONLY living language in its language famil
@jamesworley98889 ай бұрын
@@screamtoasigh9984 No form of logical or spiritual evidence shows I should believe you. Hebrew is a semitic language and therefore it ONLY makes sense that it should sound like one. Hebrew might be the oldest alphabet but it isn't the oldest language or script by a long shot. Pronunciation is one of the ultra-rare things I actually admire about the rabbai. Jews have takin the higher spiritual concepts out of there religion and retarded them with utterly nonsensical traditions and Dogma that have nothing to do with connecting us to the higher power. I would give a wopper of coins to see anyone who gets both the pronunciation and the spirituality right. It kills me that I'm the only one here with a lick of common sense.
@yaroslavlyakutya3269 жыл бұрын
You said that the letter Tsade does not exist in European languages. I would like to correct you in that in Russian language we have exactly the same letter and sound. Even it is written like Hebrew Tsade. This Russian letter is called Tse and written as Ц.
@olterigo9 жыл бұрын
Yaroslavl Yakutya The rabbi meant not the letter and the sound like they exist in Russian. He meant the sound as it existed in the Biblical Hebrew and the related sound exists in Arabic.
@destructo39158 жыл бұрын
+Yaroslavl Yakutya That Russian letter corresponds to the Ashkenazic and modern Israeli Hebrew, not the original Biblical Hebrew as the Rabbi describes in this video.
@fmafan1234567895 жыл бұрын
What about reish!?!? Do i sound itnoutnlike in french or roll it like this man does?!?!?
@davidroberts32625 жыл бұрын
Ancient Jewish sources say roll it, but don't over do it. You sound silly if you say, "Rrrrrread this letterrrrrr and rrrrrrrroll your arrrrrrrs." :) It's a short roll or flap.
@Conan24035 жыл бұрын
Very short roll, I would call it a tap with your tongue.
@benavraham43975 жыл бұрын
Reish in Hebrew should be pronounced like R in Arabic, Italian and Russian. However, the official Israeli Reish is pronounced in the throat like Yiddish, German and French.
@deakhanani3 жыл бұрын
@@davidroberts3262 Just like in Arabic, there is a light way and a heavy way to roll the resh. Dependent of course upon what precedes the resh.
@jabujolly90203 жыл бұрын
Jabu Jolly You made a mistake Rabbi. The pay and fay are not pronounced that way by Ebraeli---that is Georgian Jews. For them it's always a pay. Also among Western Sephardim eg Spabish-Portuguese and Italki Jews the atom is pronounced ng as in sing. That's where Ashkenazim get Yangkev. Also only Arabic Sephardim, Iraqi, and Teimani pronounce it a deep s. Spanish-Portuguese, Ladinero Sephardim and Persian/Bukharuan province it Ts just as Ashkenazim do.
@tornadoman10546 жыл бұрын
3:03 'Ayn' EXISTS in European languages and you can find this sound in the Caucasus region among indigenous people, like Dagestanies and Chechens, and Jews from that region (also known as 'Caucasian Jews' or 'Juhuri') pronounce 'ayn' properly.
@anasabou19045 жыл бұрын
caucasus is not europe
@Emsyaz3 жыл бұрын
@@anasabou1904 they are white people though. CAUCASUS, sounds like the original land of white people
@anasabou19043 жыл бұрын
@@Emsyaz wanna know how I can tell you are american ?
@genesisbustamante-durian3 жыл бұрын
@@anasabou1904 Haha you destroyed that guy
@hyperion31453 жыл бұрын
@@genesisbustamante-durian He destroyed the newbie
@olterigo9 жыл бұрын
Yaroslavl Yakutya is correct. The letter and the sound exist in Russian.
@verysmoky36053 жыл бұрын
I don't think so. The posited ancient Hebrew pronunciation of Tsadi (at least according to the video above) was a pharyngealized/uvularized voiceless alveolar fricative. "Ц" is not pharyngealized. I found a good explanation of this on this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/b4jZdIKimLGGfrM (but I think it's not quite the same, because ص (the Arabic equivalent of this letter) is more like a pharyngealized "C" (the Russian letter) rather than a pharyngealized "Ц".
@johnathanwoods12236 жыл бұрын
They Europeanized it. Caf is kaf not chaf. Ayin makes a line I sound.
@benavraham43975 жыл бұрын
Modern Aramaic has Chaf also like Hebrew. The ancient Middle East had much more diversity than the modern Arabized Middle East.
@ShlomoWalfish10 жыл бұрын
Lamed ל is pronounced differently by Americans, French and Israelis. Americans place the tongue under the teeth while Israeli behind the teeth, and French curl the tongue, The British have another accent.
@Conan24035 жыл бұрын
Lamed is about the brightest und pointiest L I know. The opposite of American or Russian hard L. I mean, if you want it correctly.
@deakhanani3 жыл бұрын
Actually, lamed is suppose to be pronounced in Hebrew exactly how the laa is pronounced in Arabic.
@aminaz17784 жыл бұрын
Tsade , in my opinion is a very hebrew letter it's equivalent Arabic is ت pronounced at the tip of the tongue
@izzuddinabdullah1643 жыл бұрын
No it’s ص (sad)
@aminaz17783 жыл бұрын
@@izzuddinabdullah164 you might be right, I need to verify with a phonology book to find out which part of the mouth is involved with the prononciation of each letter
@arntchristianteigen24004 жыл бұрын
sknaצ
@mujemoabraham65225 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your lecture but give me chance to let you know the reasons behind not able to pronounce these typical Semitic letters details as follow : When the Ashkenazim revived the language as they were the pioneers no doubt and they should be appreciated for their accomplishment but in the other hand they destroyed the spirit of the language as they Germanized it which means they changed many typical pure Semitic letters to sound like their German or Yiddish language ( Yiddish derived from German ) as they were/are unable to pronounce them so they shifted from east to west and I will give you some examples : 1- The letter ח Hhet converted to German CH ( KH ) 2- The letter ט Ttet converted to normal T 3- The letter ע A"yen converted to sound like A 4- The letter צ Ssadi converted to German Z ( TS ) 5- The letter ק Qof converted to sound like K 6- The letter ר Resh converted to German R ( GH ) 7- The letter ו Waw converted to German W ( V ) they did not change all these letters sound by bad intention but because these pure Semitic letters were/are so heavy on their tongues, then Mizrahim or eastern Jews followed them step by step as the Ashkenazim were/are the founders / leaders of the new state and they are who run the state departments, schools, educational institutes and media like TVs so their broken accent prevailed . This is the fact.
@benavraham43974 жыл бұрын
Resh, you are absolutely right about. But one thing: Jews in Iraqi pronunced their Arabic R exactly like R in German. Imagine Rava and Abbaye pronouncing their Resh like Ashkenazim !!! Pretty awesome! Het is pronounce like Chaf by most modern Aramaic speakers. Even if Hebrew had remained in Middle East, it may have turned out like Chaf any way. Same with 'Ayin turning to Alef. The Ashkenazim having turned Thav to Sav, is typical Semitic. They probably brought it with them from Eretz Israel. In Syrian Hebrew, they pronounce Waw as Vav, and modern Aramaic pronounces Waw and Vet identically. So that is not necessaerily European. If the emphatics, Tet, Tsade and Qof were glottalized, then the TZ pronunciation of Tzade by ALL European Jews would be closest to the ancient pronunciation. It's too bad about Tet and Quf, but I've read that Georgean Jews pronounceed them glottalized.
@kingdomheaven89194 жыл бұрын
rabbi looks tired. Hope he got some rest
@mysteriumvitae53386 жыл бұрын
So the צ was not pronounced /ts/, but like modern-day ص ? It sounds too weird to be true for me. Obviously, in the early Middle Ages it was clearly a /ts/ and, look, the LXX translators of the Septuagint transliterated צ as Ζ ζ, clearly an affricata back then. At any rate, I read it was an "emphatic ts" in Biblical times, a /ts/ with more effort and a tiny hint of עalias ع. (Which does not exist in Mandarin, by the way)
@mujemoabraham65225 жыл бұрын
Mysterium Vitae give me chance to let you know the reasons behind not able to pronounce these typical Semitic letters details as follow : When the Ashkenazim revived the language as they were the pioneers no doubt and they should be appreciated for their accomplishment but in the other hand they destroyed the spirit of the language as they Germanized it which means they changed many typical pure Semitic letters to sound like their German or Yiddish language ( Yiddish derived from German ) as they were/are unable to pronounce them so they shifted from east to west and I will give you some examples : 1- The letter ח Hhet converted to German CH ( KH ) 2- The letter ט Ttet converted to normal T 3- The letter ע A"yen converted to sound like A 4- The letter צ Ssadi converted to German Z ( TS ) 5- The letter ק Qof converted to sound like K 6- The letter ר Resh converted to German R ( GH ) 7- The letter ו Waw converted to German W ( V ) they did not change all these letters sound by bad intention but because these pure Semitic letters were/are so heavy on their tongues, then Mizrahim or eastern Jews followed them step by step as the Ashkenazim were/are the founders / leaders of the new state and they are who run the state departments, schools, educational institutes and media like TVs so their broken accent prevailed . This is the fact.
@benavraham43975 жыл бұрын
I looked up on-line LXX, and I found almost every Sade written in Greek with Sigma, not Zeta. You seem to be mistaken.
@ah795u4 жыл бұрын
@@mujemoabraham6522 nope, its because the sephardic pronounciation was used. The ashkenazi pronounciation was only carried over in ע and א, and ח and כ. Mist ashkenazim we do not use the ר with german pronounciation before modern hebrew.
@liolip56633 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@ginesito53923 жыл бұрын
white people saying they are semitic hehe
@verysmoky36052 жыл бұрын
Levantines are white (Syria is, or was, full of people who look whiter than Rabbi Bar-Hayim) and "Semitic" is a linguistic, not a racial, category. Ethiopians and Maltese people are both "Semitic" because they speak Semitic languages, not because they fit some stereotypical phenotype of person from the Middle East.