Propex HS2000 heatng a Vistabule Teardrop Trailer

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[@CosmoWeems]

This is my second winter with the Propex HS2000. I still love it. It has been trouble free and 100% reliable. I still recommend it. I did lots of number crunching to determine the propane consumption. The method I used for timing the duty cycle can be self correcting for the temperature and conditions you are in to calculate how long your fuel will last. =Cosmo

[@CosmoWeems]

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[@karenanderson9740]

You are inspiring. I appreciate seeing the math in how you calculated your propane usage with your Propex. I also respect your sensibilities around back up systems for everything. Ride Easy!

[@CosmoWeems]

Thanks Karen. I was a disaster planner in information systems for a few years. It changed everything for me! I love having layered backup plans especially where fun is concerned. Stuff still goes wrong and tthat is where the gift is! Thank You for watching. Check my other videos kzbin.infovideos SUBSCRIBE kzbin.info

[@wvbonbonqueen]

I liked your video, it shows how to downsize with class. Thanks for sharing your information you have shared with us. We who are campers, like this kind of videos so we can change up, and upgrade our systems.

[@CosmoWeems]

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[@thebestisyettocome4114]

Greetings: I like your Camper. I to have a small 4x8 Runaway Camper XL 2018. At 98 I camp only state parks in my state. I carry a firearm with my CCW permit in California. Hope in my lifetime, I never need to use. Best regards 👍

[@CosmoWeems]

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[@joharmon2148]

You always do such a great job with giving information on products. I wish I had a way to heat my little camper shell so I could be off anytime of year. I really love your teardrop

[@CosmoWeems]

Thanks Jo. Many people are using mr heater which have a good recored as long as you ventilate. Its wonderful to camp in the cold. No one is around and you have nature all to yourself to enjoy! =Cosmo

[@bosse641]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/qpvJnKeAqshma5Y Maybe that could be a simple solution for you ?

[@CosmoWeems]

Thanks John. I started with a Mr Heater. But the moisture from combustion is an issue. A pound of propane burned produces 20 ounces of water vapor add to that the pint produced by each occupant and you have lots of water on the walls. Not so with the Propex heater! Its dry heat! Thank You for watching. Check my other videos kzbin.infovideos SUBSCRIBE kzbin.info

[@Cruzinsusan5101]

Nice video - Good to see you back. Lots of good info. Thinking about car camping in my SUV and head south. I'm located in central Ohio - so it's typical winter weather here in the Northeast. You're right about the sleeping bag keeping you warm. In the car, it's all I really need in 30 degree weather. Of course if it would get too cold, I could just start my car. Okay, happy trails.

[@CosmoWeems]

Ya I was headed south for a few weeks but a sudden priority stopped. Go while you can. You wont regret it later! =Cosmo

[@johncarter6573]

Great job in getting out info i like your trailer and the places you go please tells us more of how you pick were you go and how we find places that are quiet

[@CosmoWeems]

Hi John kzbin.info/www/bejne/gpe9n3aKat12rLM Also check my boondocking videos Thank You for watching. Check my other videos kzbin.infovideos SUBSCRIBE kzbin.info

[@freedomdove]

Thanks for showing those magnetic cables, Cosmo. I don't think they would work on my phone since my case is so thick, but I do like them. I have an Otter Box and they're very protective. Nice setup for the heater, btw. I'm glad you have a way to stay warm on your winter trips.

[@CosmoWeems]

Thank You. Its the second best way to keep warm! Ha ha ha =Cosmo

[@freedomdove]

Lol. 😁

[@johnquest3102]

Cosmo you the campin' man! I love that vistabule. John in Michigan.

[@CosmoWeems]

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[@teslarangeproject1637]

This is gold, thanks for sharing the math. I am install one in a specality vehicle and this helps a bunch.

[@CosmoWeems]

Thanks Chris! I have more on cold weather camping and this heater on this play list kzbin.info/aero/PLVxlmS-2xmBVgblX1Li6tZfiRZ_AMywDL 𝕋𝕙𝕒𝕟𝕜 𝕐𝕠𝕦 𝕗𝕠𝕣 𝕨𝕒𝕥𝕔𝕙𝕚𝕟𝕘! ✅ Check my other videos kzbin.infovideos SUBSCRIBE kzbin.info =𝓒𝓸𝓼𝓶𝓸 ✅

[@thunder19301]

i think i will get myself a Mr Buddy heater. I really like that teardrop trailer 👍

[@CosmoWeems]

Heat is very enjoyable.Thank You for watching. Check my other videos kzbin.infovideos SUBSCRIBE kzbin.info

[@markbabcock40205]

Another very informative vid Cosmo. I've had my Propex a year now and I'm very satisfied. The Chinese diesel weren't discussed that much back then so I didn't consider them. I do appreciate the propane fuel but didn't know about the higher electrical draw of the diesel furnaces. Thanks

[@CosmoWeems]

Thanks Mark. I love my Propex. It has been trouble free and keeps me as warm as I like. Many people have commented on my videos about how trouble free it is. Do you have the Acoustic ducting to lower the noise level? It works great and is inexpensive kzbin.info/www/bejne/o4Opg4WtbsR2jJI. Diesel heaters are a bargain but I a seeing many reports of issues like failed parts and cleaning problems getting the soot out of the system! Enjoy =Cosmo

[@CosmoWeems]

In my comments for this tvideo I have a comparison of electric draw of the Propex compared to a Diesel heater

[@markbabcock40205]

@@CosmoWeems yep. I also have the acoustic ducting. It's also in a cabinet like yours. Sound of it running is very soothing.

[@CosmoWeems]

Diesel Heater Cleaning the heater kzbin.info/www/bejne/bKjVl3irhrB1f68 Diesel heater Electric consumption kzbin.info/www/bejne/hZvZlHWfd6akg7M

[@Westcoastgs]

Brilliant deduction as always,glad to see you out,enjoy ur winter.i cheated,left CT for FL.

[@CosmoWeems]

Thanks I hope to follow you south If I can get untangled. If not I will continue to enjoy the full grip of winter. =Cosmo

[@guidok3762]

Great video, thanks for the useful information. 🇳🇱❤️🇺🇸👍✌️🥇

[@CosmoWeems]

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[@Mopjockey1234]

I really like your videos, just wish I was at a place in my life where I could get out like you are doing. You may want to talk to Foresty Forest about the diesel heater as I believe he has about the same battery capacity as you in his camper van. Thanks for sharing your experience, you and a few others on here are keeping me going right now.

[@CosmoWeems]

Hi TIm. Planning for escape kept me going. Now I have escaped! Ya I am looking for total amps the heater draws while running full cycle. While many have opinions and loyalty I am looking for hard data. A 120 amp battery provides about 60 amps of usable power! Plus I have an electric fridge. I will ing the lead yu gave me. Thank You and Thank You for watching. Check my other videos kzbin.infovideos SUBSCRIBE kzbin.info

[@vidguy007]

Mopeka makes a very good magnetic mounted gauge for a propane tank you can read from your phone. It can read in small increments and seems to be accurate. I had one of those phone cords, it came apart.

[@CosmoWeems]

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[@CosmoWeems]

Is this the gauge? amzn.to/2w1cQI5 =Cosmo

[@dyates6380]

Great video man. Love the set up. Thanks for sharing this.

[@CosmoWeems]

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[@behometexas6633]

Your videos are outstanding. I find the Vistabule very appealing compared to other teardrops. I like the futon effect because you can have a place to sit inside. Also the doors appear to be larger than other teardrops? I this correct? I like the idea of a teardrop but many have small doors hard for a full size person to get in/out. Appreciate your comments and perhaps a comparison video of this problem...

[@CosmoWeems]

Hi BE my trailer is my most fun toy! I love the camping style. I am more out than in even when I am in the trailer because of the huge doors and window. I did not like the other offerings when I was shopping. As soon as I saw the Vistabule I knew it was a good match for me. They build more features into a Vistabule than any other teardrop I have see. I have loads of videos about this trailer. Thank You for watching. Check my other videos kzbin.infovideos SUBSCRIBE kzbin.info

[@rveurope]

Great review as usual, super low consumption on propane wonderful! During the day you do outdoors so no heat required, or 8 days with your cycle pattern...great woow..and the batt will be recharged with solar? We do wintercamping for up to 3 weeks at a time and plan a supplemental diesel heater next...data is fantastic, to what we found from several users..!? :-)

[@CosmoWeems]

Thank You I appreciate your comment. I agree data is good when trying to figure things out. I am off grid on solar 99% of the time. Which I LOVE! Thank You for watching. Check my other videos kzbin.infovideos SUBSCRIBE kzbin.info

[@mandosandradios]

Excellent

[@CosmoWeems]

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[@rockygibson1231]

Hi Cosmo, I just bought this heater. I’m planning on running it off a standard 5 gallon propane bottle (like the ones for BBQs). What I don’t know is what regulator and fittings I need to go from the 5 gallon, down to the Propex. I could see in your video you had some fittings on your propane. Could you tell me what you used or possibly send me a video showing your connections from the propane down to the Propex?

[@CosmoWeems]

I dot know what type regulator. Its nothing special. If I see any writing on it I will post is for you. 𝕋𝕙𝕒𝕟𝕜 𝕐𝕠𝕦 𝕗𝕠𝕣 𝕨𝕒𝕥𝕔𝕙𝕚𝕟𝕘! =𝓒𝓸𝓼𝓶𝓸 ✅

[@ricks.1318]

Cosmo ... Where have ya been, man ... ?? Missing your regular videos .....

[@CosmoWeems]

Thanks Rick. 95 yr old family member had a stroke and lost ability to speak so I have been helping then through a toufh period. Should be out in the wild again soon. Thanks for watching. =Cosmo

[@michaeljames3509]

Depending on the quality of propane it produces 93 to 95K BTU/Hr per gallon. The heater produces X amount of BTU/Hour. Figure it out.

[@CosmoWeems]

BTu calculation is not working for me. Calculation using weight converted to BTUs comes very close to my numbers than volume. Thank You for watching. Check my other videos kzbin.infovideos SUBSCRIBE kzbin.info

[@danielepplett3645]

Hello Cosmo I enjoy watching your videos, What kind of suspension does the Vestibule offer. I am in California we used to have the best roads in the country but of late, is not so anymore. I enjoy the Western States lots of public lands for camping. Many back roads to travel but many are washboard or riddled with potholes. I know a lot of it is common sense and just taking it easy. I am curious about the suspension.

[@CosmoWeems]

I am not sure what else Vistabule.Com offers. Mytrailer suspension is a torsion spring suspension. I know they offer an off road package but am not sure what is in that package. I do take it slow off road to prevent the trailer from bouncing off the ground. Thank You for watching. Check my other videos kzbin.infovideos SUBSCRIBE kzbin.info

[@carolyndodd7532]

For when it's just you, can you leave half of your bed as sofa and half of your bed down as a bed? If not, is that a mod that Vistabule offers?

[@CosmoWeems]

i do not have a split Futon. You can contact Vistabule.com to see if it is offered. Thank You for watching. Check my other videos kzbin.infovideos SUBSCRIBE kzbin.info

[@Rick-sl2ii]

Cosmo have you stayed at Cheesequake yet? Don’t know anyone that camped there and was looking to possibly go there in late March.

[@CosmoWeems]

Have not camped there. Let me know how you like it! Thank You for watching. Check my other videos kzbin.infovideos SUBSCRIBE kzbin.info

[@user-ku5xo1ph9l]

Did those secondary locks on the doors come stock Cosmo

[@CosmoWeems]

Yes they pull the door in tightly to rain out when driving at highway speeds. At Highway speeds the trailer is experiencing one long hurricane on the road. I usually dont use then when inside but in this case - they are good to have. Its a bit of good thinking on Vistabules part. Not sure why other makers dont use them. They are very effective. Thank You for watching. Check my other videos kzbin.infovideos SUBSCRIBE kzbin.info

[@gailresources8120]

I see you mention the Mr Buddy. My thought was if you had a reason not use it?

[@CosmoWeems]

Hi Gail. Yes Propane combustion gives off lots of moisture. Mr Buddy is very popular but you may find lots of water on your walls and dampness. This heater does not vent moisture into the interior. I have a dry interior. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jGmyeYWNbp16a7c Thank You for watching. Check my other videos kzbin.infovideos SUBSCRIBE kzbin.info

[@oldschooldiy3240]

I had to stop the video and correct you, while the diesel heater glow plugs do use 9+ amps, that is only at start up! After that it is 1 or less amps! USUALLY .8 or .9 amps!

[@CosmoWeems]

Thank You. I had this conversation with another person further down in the comments. Please check that and we can compare duty cycle electric consumption numbers. Thank You for watching. Check my other videos kzbin.infovideos SUBSCRIBE kzbin.info

[@CosmoWeems]

Diesel Heater Cleaning the heater kzbin.info/www/bejne/bKjVl3irhrB1f68 Diesel heater Electric consumption kzbin.info/www/bejne/hZvZlHWfd6akg7M

[@randyfarr844]

So is it an actual Thermostat or just a timer?

[@CosmoWeems]

Thermostat. Lowest setting is 65F. Not sure about highest setting I turned it off when it approached 90 in the trailer! Thank You for watching. Check my other videos kzbin.infovideos SUBSCRIBE kzbin.info

[@bugouttrailers7964]

A couple of comments. Propane introduces moisture to the environment in the combustion process. It is a small amount of moisture, but in small areas can accumulate quickly and dampness will make things colder. The moisture will work it's way into bedding and clothing making you more uncomfortable in the long run. Chinese heaters (if you don't like Chinese you can purchase domestic built units for about 3 times the money, but still cheaper than the propex). Yes the "Park Heaters" glow plugs do pull 8-10 amps at start up, but only at start up. Once the heater starts it uses the fuel pump and fan to regulate the temp output. This means that once the heater starts it does not shut off again and the thermostat controls pump speed to regulate the desired temp unlike other heaters which cycle on and off. This does mean though that at full heating power the park heater can pull up to 3 amps to run fan and pump. Once desired temp has been reached though it will usually pull well under a amp. Also, since it has a heat exchanger you are introducing dry heat (not moist) and no carbon monoxide into the environment. A 5 gallon diesel can will last a long time and is easily filled when you fuel up the tow vehicle. No cans to discard or have filled by qualified personal. Just some thoughts. thanks, George

[@CosmoWeems]

Hi George. Thanks for your comments. Propex is a heat exchange heater. No moisture or combustion fumes enters the cabin. Diesel heaters are very good and a great match for many - but not me. I think products from China can be excellent. My trailer is tiny and I choose not to add anther liquid fuel. I already have propane. Others of course should get what is best for them. Finally I am not getting any data on how much electric power a diesel heater draws when it is running. Lots of opinions but no numbers. I have a small battery and I camp off grid. My research showed Diesel heaters draw more electric power which I could not support. Again I am still waiting for someone to produce some reliable information. =Cosmo Thank You for watching. Check my other videos kzbin.infovideos SUBSCRIBE kzbin.info

[@bugouttrailers7964]

@@CosmoWeems Thanks for the reply. I guess I did not realize the propex had a heat exchanger. This guy does a few tests on the Chinese heaters. Some good info in there. About 8;00 in he does a start up and run kzbin.info/www/bejne/b4rXmZR5ptCAhdU. Thanks, George.

[@CosmoWeems]

Diesel Heater Cleaning the heater kzbin.info/www/bejne/bKjVl3irhrB1f68 Diesel heater Electric consumption kzbin.info/www/bejne/hZvZlHWfd6akg7M

[@concernedcitizen780]

Is carbon monoxide a concern? Do you have a CO detector?

[@CosmoWeems]

CO is not a concern since this is a heat exchange heater. However I use the CO detector I showed in the video. Thank You for watching. Check my other videos kzbin.infovideos SUBSCRIBE kzbin.info

[@concernedcitizen780]

Cosmo Weems Thanks for the reply. I envy you.

[@secretdaisy6484]

Do you have a lock on the trailer’s wheel to prevent theft?

[@CosmoWeems]

Yes Thank You for watching. Check my other videos kzbin.infovideos SUBSCRIBE kzbin.info?sub_confirmation

[@tony-ce7qp]

hope your well!

[@CosmoWeems]

I am well Thank You for watching. Check my other videos kzbin.infovideos SUBSCRIBE kzbin.info

[@joescott7027]

Do they still make this heater? If so do you know where they sell them? I have not been able to find one online................

[@CosmoWeems]

Ya the Propex HS2000 is still in production made in UK. I like it. Try contacting www.vancafe.com/ 𝕋𝕙𝕒𝕟𝕜 𝕐𝕠𝕦 𝕗𝕠𝕣 𝕨𝕒𝕥𝕔𝕙𝕚𝕟𝕘! ✅ Check my other videos kzbin.infovideos SUBSCRIBE kzbin.info =𝓒𝓸𝓼𝓶𝓸 ✅

[@bradmiller9993]

Cosmo; your tank seems pretty small, are you sure it's not an 11 lb. tare weight tank? I have a a couple of 11 lb. tare weight tanks which seem (visually) like yours which hold about one gallon (a little under five pounds) of propane each. Just asking. Thanks for the video.

[@CosmoWeems]

Thanks Brad The 11 lb. propane tank holds a little less than 11 pounds of propane. Commercial propane weighs about 3.696 lbs per gallon, so an 11lb tank holds about 2.98 gallons of propane. That is what the tank maker says. I am using weight as a measure since Propex provided weights for burn time. Thank You for watching. Check my other videos kzbin.infovideos SUBSCRIBE kzbin.info

[@bradmiller9993]

@@CosmoWeems Roger that Cosmo! l love your videos and have a couple of '11 pound' propane tanks (which hold a gallon of propane) and I just bought a Chinese diesel heater to keep me toasty in these Northwest winters while I'm out and about. Keep posting and come out to the Northwest someday! I'll show you around......

[@CosmoWeems]

Thank you The diesels are a really excellent value. If you have a chance to test the amp draw of on on to off cycle - including cool down I will buy you a beer for the data! =Cosmo

[@rs1961]

@@CosmoWeems My Chinese diesel heater in 20 degree F weather, in an insulated 7x16 cargo trailer, producing an hourly duty cycle of 20 minutes on high and 40 minutes on low, drew 2.2 amps per hour= 18.6 amps in 8 hours. One web page says Propex draws 1.6 amps per hour (with no indication of duty cycle). I wonder what your Propex draws. I will buy you a beer for the data! =FeatherliteCT1

[@CosmoWeems]

Thank you . The Propex site gives fule consumption and stats for 100% duty cycle (continuous running) 1 hour draws 2.4 amps or 2400 miliamps. In my scenario it ran 12 min an hour which would equal 40 miliamps a min or 480 mili amps total for the 12 min an hour it runs. Resting draw is .04 amps.which totals .031 milli amps for the hour. The grand total is 480.037 Mili amps for an hour at 20F or .48 amps. Thats a very low draw! I am not critical about Diesel heaters I just need a very low draw system for my tiny trailer. In my case I am not interested in adding a liquid fuel when I have Propane already. I am keeping it simple. I am not interested in the maintenance I am seeing for diesel heaters too. I do realize I spent $1K for my heater and diesels can be purchased for the outstanding price of $200. Its just not a match for me. We have both produced good useable data and that means we can both enjoy a beer for a job well done! Thank You for watching. Check my other videos kzbin.infovideos SUBSCRIBE kzbin.info

[@mohammedalkaldy5319]

Are you ok?

[@CosmoWeems]

Yes will be traveling again soon! Thank You for watching. Check my other videos kzbin.infovideos SUBSCRIBE kzbin.info

[@stephenboldrey9973]

Propane makes too much moisture inside . The diesel heater is a dry heat and it does not take a lot of electricity to burn the glow plug . Propane he is the worst thing you can do for a van unless you just want to rust it out

[@CosmoWeems]

Accurate information to make decisions is important. This is one of the best heaters for a van for several factors. Lets start with your points You can add acoustic ducting to a heater like a Propex or a diesel which will make it quiet. It cost me about $15 and is available from Westy Ventures. It lowered the decibel volume quiet a bit. I have a video about that on my channel. No combustion enters the cabin because this is a heat exchange heater. All combustion fumes and water vapor are vented to the outside. Only dry heat enters the cabin. No rust and I get avirtually zero condensation on the walls of my trail in -5F temps. The Propex is much better than a diesel heater conserving electric power which is important for me. I list the electric consumption in tone of the comments below. Diesle consumes more electric. Propane heater requires none of the maintenance a diesel heater requires. If you have actual accurate numbers to compare we can discuss this in detail. Catalytic propane heaters like Mr Heater will indeed put lots of water into the cabin. But not the Propex. Thank You for watching. Check my other videos kzbin.infovideos SUBSCRIBE kzbin.info =Cosmo

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[@drivin69]

your gone run out of propane in the middle of the knight i would bet that that running all day would be gone with a 20 lbs tank.. we use heaters in tents my friend and we use them some time during when we are camp and ya 20 lbs is gone one day...

[@CosmoWeems]

Hi Ya a space heater in a tent without a thermostat has a big apatite, Regards =Cosmo

[@drivin69]

@@CosmoWeems it had a thermostat and it did not even make it a hole day.. propane heaters use a lot of propane my mom has one at her house with a 100 lbs tank 2 days is all you get as far as 24/7 heat

[@CosmoWeems]

@@drivin69 there are 21,500 BTU in a pound of propane.How many BTUs is your heater?

[@CosmoWeems]

@@drivin69 My use is different and I am heating a small space. Its not a solution for all situations. I am very confident in my numbers.

[@drivin69]

@@CosmoWeems Hey don't forget you can't use all the propane only 80% of that 11 pound tank you can use the other 20% will evaporate my friend..ya its not that i dought you,, just letting you know its expensive when we do it and our situation... but hey its all good fun exploring the great outdoors,,, some times an out door fire is an all knight situation for heat as well...but ya your propane heater is cool..sounds like you did the numbers...

[@Luckie337]

Propane puts in way too much moisture, (big problem ), Chinese Diesel is a much better way to go. Very dry too. 10 amps for start up and then only 1.5 amps from there on.

[@CosmoWeems]

Propex is a heat exchange heater no fumes of moisture enters the cabin. I hope I dont ever camp near one of these polluters kzbin.info/www/bejne/qpmkeop3ftx0hMU Diesel Heater Cleaning the heater kzbin.info/www/bejne/bKjVl3irhrB1f68 Diesel heater Electric consumption kzbin.info/www/bejne/hZvZlHWfd6akg7M Fuel Consumption kzbin.info/www/bejne/pIOpXnVtadh3o7M

[@CosmoWeems]

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[@HMWells-hm9yf]

Diesel uses external air and exhaust to outside, your wrong on glow plug use, only when starting is glow plug on, try one and you’ll never go back to propane, just spent days in 13-20 degree temps on a gallon of diesel

[@CosmoWeems]

I am not being critical I researched. How many amps does your heater draw full cycle. Lets talk data and if its a good match for me. I have no doubt its a good match for you and many others. Thanks =Cosmo

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