Pro-Pilot Playbook Podcast #30 // Choosing a Flight School

[@Musiqman76]

ATP has a Zero to Hero program, so you can actually start there without your Private Pilot Cert.

[@blackheartwolf]

Now they want you to have it before they enroll you

[@Musiqman76]

@@blackheartwolf Really? Their website still shows that they offer the Zer0 to hero track that allows you to start with zero time and no PPL.

[@blackheartwolf]

@@Musiqman76 I called them this week that's what they told me. Have that or a bachelor's degree or military experience. They won't consider you otherwise

[@Musiqman76]

@@blackheartwolf That doesn't sound correct. ATP is known for their Zero to hero program and if that were true, they would severely limit their customer base. I'd get a second opinion if you are seriously considering ATP.

[@Jared-cd3qk]

​@blackheartwolf Honestly that could be based off the amount of applicants that they are receiving, and could be just the location that you spoke with.

[@SteveThaDrummer]

Hey guys! Absolutely love your channel and the content!! Hopefully you guys will see this since it's an old video. Does going to an accelerated program like ATP rob you of experience or the absorption of what you're actually learning? Just looking for you guys' thoughts on this. One flight school I was looking at before I settled on one said the last couple of ATP grads they were interviewing didn't seem to be solid with some of the knowledge required to be CFI. Thank you!

[@dylanoliveira9926]

I’m starting with ATP on February 22nd at the Mesa location!

[@Musiqman76]

Hey Dylan, do you already have your Private or are you starting at zero hours? Also, why did you choose ATP over other AZ providers like Aeroguard and American Flyers?

[@isaacborunda2465]

How’s it going

[@Steveyg2015]

How was your experience at atp?

[@Steveyg2015]

Did you go to atp at mesa? I'm curious about going this June to that location

[@planewire2153]

Each program has its pros and cons Small FBO- (pro) typically cheaper by cost and by hour (Con) typically takes longer to complete training. Accelerated-(pro) complete training within a year (Con) about 80% more expensive and is a full time commitment 141 college-(pro) complete college and degree within 4 years and have reduced hours for airline job (Con)- realistically only an option for college age kids, and no backup option if aviation career doesn’t work out

[@benlieberman26]

Have you done any of these?

[@planewire2153]

@@benlieberman26 yeah, I did my training at a local fbo, and now I work as a cfi

[@Dani-bn7do]

hello great videos you are uploading i have a question:after finishing flight school with the cpl what is the best way to start flying and getting the atpl unfrozen.

[@Endgator]

Yall are amazing

[@americantrailrider7031]

Lol. Pulling into atp for a 6am flight while listening to this. Atp depends on your instructor.

[@EdRodriguezespanol]

Great content guys

[@DangleDeke4]

My problem is I’m in college because I know you need a degree in most cases and I want a backup career. Should I try to cram two lessons ontop of my schooling? Or wait until summer?? Thanks

[@starloszelson4541]

Military Military Military

[@turbofargo]

Two yr old video so hopefully someone sees this haha. If aviation college is a route a oetson wants to take to save money can they attend a community college with an aviation program or do to the nature of flight training that isnt feasible?

[@ryanlive819]

Waste of time, I attempted this route.

[@zachschaneberger]

Only downside with ATP is they’re not VA approved! VA approved schools have to be 141.

[@Steveyg2015]

What does that mean?

[@zachschaneberger]

@@Steveyg2015 about part 141 or being VA Approved?

[@Steveyg2015]

@@zachschaneberger both😅

[@zachschaneberger]

Flight training has to be taught under part 61 (less strict and up to the flight instructor) or part 141 (more strict and approved by the FAA). The VA will only fund veterans' flight training through the GI Bill, VR&E, etc, if the school is part 141 among other things, such as being in business for several years.

[@chatty9856]

ATP doesn’t allow you to work while training. So if your looking for a Career change, too bad. They also discriminate Against pilots u have to carry a SODA. I don’t recommend ATP. it’s $96K and u need to have money set aside to Live. That’s BS!

[@ryanlive819]

Yeah you have to follow a certain guideline to get finished and they have seen people who work or are only part time lower their completion ratings. So they will boot you as well!