Pros and Cons of AIO

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[@farlonmuentes6004]

i initially thought water coolers are great especially on the looks department but when my friend bought one and after a few months it failed and had a leak, i changed my mind. water coolers may have a small chance of failing but that fail could ruin your whole system.

[@googleuser9193]

do u know which one he had?

[@Kryostance]

One of the cheapest cooler master AIO were leaking in pc shop during assembly I witnessed it two-three times. It was scary because the guys were professionals. 😅 Also even AIO liquid cooling is gonna get moldy with time. So in the end of the day you need to buy a new one in every 3-4 years. It depends on which you got.

[@ligmanewtons2523]

@@Kryostance I don't trust anything with a cooler master brand on it.

[@Connor-zb4uo]

@@ligmanewtons2523 Turns out they arn't masters with coolers

[@cynthiaandoh9575]

​@@ligmanewtons2523 Cooler master is good with some other things

[@josepio4168]

Personally, I'd go with Air cooling since even though at both of their bests AIO is slightly colder and looks slightly cooler (pun intended) air cooling is just a lot less of a hassle and it is less prone to failure

[@redgrant4897]

My Corsair AIO pump failed after 1 year. Not doing water cooling again.

[@LordAngelus]

@@redgrant4897 cool story bro

[@Syrus7sk]

Currently watching this video while my aio is making an annoying clicking/buzzing noise. Go with air cooling.

[@dmytrogalan1005]

it might be the fact that your radiator is facing upwards (the part where the water cables connect) combined with the fact that some liquid evaporated over time

[@Syrus7sk]

It's a single fan Skytech AIO mounted to the back. Have had it for about 5 years so evaporation is definitely possible.

[@Drejkol]

Air is pretty much eternal and failure-free. Also, while it's chunky it doesn't have to look bad. In case of the Noctuas, you can just replace included fans with something like CM mf120/140 and keep the amazing performance and the RGB for little of the price increase. As for the AIO's, the high-end one is not only 2-3 times pricier than the best Air coolers (like Noctua D15) but also you have to replace it every 5 years or so, meanwhile you can still use your 9 years old D15 and it still as good as it was back in the day. Maybe fans might get loud so you gonna have to change them for ~50€ but that's it. It will still cool your 13900k as fine as it was cooling your 2600k back in the day.

[@ravinkrishnan3183]

Won't the d15 performance degrade over time??

[@Delouser69]

Who buys a noctua to replace the fan lol

[@Stepher45]

@@Delouser69facts, the rest is a block of metal, the fans are the best part of Noctua

[@killakame-3434]

There is a saying ' Old is Gold '

[@AmtrakFlareon]

Also RMA exists so don’t immediately stress if an AIO poops out on you

[@Xenokex]

What to you need for RMA

[@green1v]

@@Xenokexdepending on the company who you bought it from, go to their website. I know msi, which I just rmad my mobo for, I only had to look up msi Rma request or something like that.

[@Xenokex]

@@green1v thanks a lot brother

[@green1v]

@@Xenokex anytime 👍

[@not_steazer]

​@@green1vwhat u said its deleted

[@marcelmathes]

Don't forget the pump noise, that was the reason for switch back to an aircooler

[@zerefdragneel5767]

i use aio before.. well after 8-9 month my cpu temp increased even though in idle mode..the pump also have some weird sound..ahahah..went back to air cooler and all good since then..

[@dmytrogalan1005]

positioning is important in aio coolers as it can greatly reduce it's lifespan if done incorrectly... then it becomes a matter of "when" rather than "if" it fails on you, all you would be relying at this point is build quality of the product rather than it's actual function

[@vqa33]

@@dmytrogalan1005based on what you’ve written it’s better to buy usual air cooler and be happy.

[@dmytrogalan1005]

@@vqa33 if you don't know how to treat your hardware properly and don't show any interest in learning then by all means go air cooler... it's fool proof for a reason... aio coolers have more moving parts so it's a given, if you have a low end build with entry level CPUs then it's a waste of money to get an aio The moment you go for Ryzen/Intel 7 current gen, then you should consider the upgrade, along with proper education...

[@ultramasterultra5724]

Since my I use an i3 12100f I just use the included cooler which is small and the temps are ok

[@mysticdragonwolf89]

I use Ice Giant Elite - temperature maintains steady temp even with load.

[@MrExdous69]

I am trying to decide between an aio probably either the evga clcx 240mm or similar and the Noctua nhd15. Can’t decide. I have a Ryzen 5 7600x

[@iliya_khosravi]

Idk its based on your opinion but in "my" opinion i will go for the air cooler

[@zenithchan1646]

Bro its a 7600x you can even use their stock cooler. Get the Thermalright Peerless Assassin for $34 than those expensive coolers

[@MrExdous69]

@@zenithchan1646 except I bought a cheap cooler and it consistently stays around 95c under load. I know AMD *SAYS* they were designed to run under that load I have a hard time believing it’s not degrading my cpu. Plus I’m going to get either a 7800x3d or a 7950x3d once the 8000 series drops. I need an aio I’m just not sure which to get. It’s difficult finding a quality one that works with am5 for under $250

[@MrExdous69]

I ended up getting the EK/EKWB Lux240

[@JamieR]

@@zenithchan1646 or AK620 / Phantom Spirit 120. AK620 for more aesthetics and ram clearance above 35mm. Phantom Spirit 120 if ram is below.

[@1fishmob]

I was recommended to go with liquid cooling since I record my voice a lot, and the fans love to add unneeded background noise. If I get liquid cooling, is there ways I can ensure a failure doesn't happen, even if it's unlikely?

[@burubugdugbuginug3551]

Do you really know what you are talking about? AIOs and Tower cooler basically can perform the same, it is just basically a preference. Besides, tower coolers are more durable in the long run.

[@dmytrogalan1005]

"basically" key word... you rely on the fans to cool the radiator on air coolers, but the addition of a pump and the different placements on water coolers also allow the liquid to circulate more and allow for better results

[@user-xl6yo5dr6p]

What's a tower cooler.

[@ronakbarman3580]

@@user-xl6yo5dr6pthey are normal air coolers, but with more height than the stock included ones with processors

[@fadillah6014]

@@user-xl6yo5dr6p those air cooler with lot heatsink

[@Stepher45]

@@user-xl6yo5dr6pit’s the really big air coolers that are the most common, the ones with 2 fans at least and heat pipes that go up from the cpu to a really big heat dissipation area.

[@illuviium]

I’ve had my THERMALTAKE prebuild for a year and 3 months and my AIO failed already. Sucks . Really sucks cause I know nothing of PC repairs and damages and how to fix them and my pump just started heating way the hell up after turning it on and stuff and I took it to geek squad and they just flat out told me (bad pump). When I think it was just clogged and so they gave me a Corsair pump and radiator and now I do not know for the life of me how to sync the RGB. I was running MSI dragon for my whole rig and now that won’t work and nothing I try syncs all my 8 fans up and it’s the most depressing thing. Why even have a rig with all this RGB and I can’t even see it turn on

[@dmytrogalan1005]

do you have a fan hub? or perhaps consider buying a Corsair RGB controller that connects them together had the same problems when I wanted to individually color my Nzxt fans on my fractal torrent case, and couldn't figure it out with my own case fan hub

[@maccodj]

Aio vs air: Air Cons: cheap, simple, effective Aio Cons: pricey, a lot of cables, a lot of space,

[@DeltaComp]

The chances of a failure in water cooling may be low, but the consequences of it failing are potentially very costly.

[@LoganRicardo]

I'm sticking with my NH-U12A Chromax Black 😅

[@cemsengul16]

All the people praising AIO liquid cooling never mention the sound of a high pitch pump running all the time. Believe me air cooling is more quiet. What is the point of fans spinning slowly with a loud pump?

[@dabbzgaming]

Is air cooling that much quieter? I have an aio and that is my only con tbh

[@ara8737]

​@@dabbzgaming I never really notice my cheap air cooler. My current PC doesn't have any liquid cooling and is pretty quiet. I usually play with headphones though.

[@tomburden]

I think the Noctua D15 looks bad ass. Who doesn't like a giant chunk of metal with fans!😂

[@tengr6068]

Aio only cools your cpu. Tower air cooler cools the whole case. In a long run, like 8, 9 hours or more aio performance decreases in a great margin because of liquid. Fast cooling but also fetting hot faster.

[@LionTheTeacher]

Nope

[@slavicprincess]

Guys, you need to buy an AIO from a proper brand like Corsair not some dumb $50 one. Also, the positioning of the tubes is extremely important when it comes to the lifespan/failure of AIO, TechSource explains this in his PC build guide

[@DeathStriker88]

AIOs are just overrated hyped shit. I won't buy AIO ever

[@rkzooplays]

I've hard two so far and one has failed it's a gamble.

[@aseprdz]

​@@DeathStriker88 true

[@diewelt1248]

air over aio. Aio is not better thn air its worse because the heat cant dissappear fast enough in that closed loop system even with a 240mm one

[@mantaaj7240]

Should I use aio as intake or exhaust fan? It will be 2 fans

[@btplaysforntite]

Exhaust.

[@dmytrogalan1005]

most optimal position for an aio is over the motherboard, so it should definitely be exhaust unless you don't have the upper part free like I have with my torrent case, then go front/intake

[@gann2001]

UNLIKELY??? in 2022 MSI AIO got massive reports of liquid clotting leading to system failure just after 6 months of use some ppl ever less than 6 months.

[@derzerstoerer1]

yes , had also one .. after 4 months i put it in the trash. Pump failure

[@bloodsausage6635]

Msi is such an awful brand 🙄 can’t believe they keep getting sales

[@remipennel121]

I just slap a 40$ ThermalRight cooler in there and my temps are never over 60 for my cpu and gpu even when playing demanding games. Sure AIOs look cool but it is MUCH more expensive and I personally don't trust having liquid constantly flowing around in my PC, AIOs fail a lot more often than air coolers and, when they do, they can cause some SERIOUS damage. Until prices drop and/or AIO reliability improves, I'm sticking with Air Coolers.

[@Igotthatjizz]

If you only can fit an 120 AIO you can better use an Ait cooler

[@mujtababa3954]

I would go for a chunky air cooler bcuz i have an aio and due to my budget i couldnt get a white mobo so it looks kinda bad and if i had an air cooler it would hide alot of the black parts and i never need to overclock my pc so.....

[@TDV1]

Randomly got air on a NZXT H1, it's fixed now. But I'm never getting an AIO again, higher chance of failure.

[@ahuman4060]

another con is the fact its hard asf to install an aio

[@JamieR]

Not really hard, just takes some patience. After a few installs it's fairly simple though. Just watch a video of Prawn's a few times and you'll know how to route everything before doing it. Saves for a lot of headache.

[@dmytrogalan1005]

if you didn't look into what size to use in which case, it's granted you'll be having a hard time.. I wanted to install a 360mm aio in my torrent and had to ditch my bottom 180mm fans for a pair of 140mm unless I took a smaller motherboard altogether

[@Yukeena]

not really

[@thunderstein5041]

broader variety of cases= not so true, especially when it comes to the radiators and case size

[@TechnicalSoldex]

Just stay away from them if you can't afford frequently upgrading your build.

[@dekkuo]

so like, does it come with fans?

[@W4CKYRN]

Yes, mostly all of AIOS and Air Coolers come with fans pre-attached

[@hdirfelix]

If leaky ?

[@mohammadsuliman5569]

This is a good video why only 4 likes!?!

[@unknownexposer8399]

Can leakage of aio ruin whole PC?

[@TbeeLooney]

@@jacekmakeswhat if i patch the leak before it reaches any hardware

[@jadenbrigonoi4711]

Sooner or later, your Aio is going to need replaced.

[@TbeeLooney]

Yeah “very unlikely” my just failed after 1 year of having it

[@niodix]

No it's not very unlikely. It's very likely

[@jojoironboi]

Uh. No it's not. It's extremely rare. Many aio warranties cover damages from leaks. If the aios failed as often as you think they would lose money by selling them.

[@niodix]

@@jojoironboi if leaked aio kills you GPU it's your problem. Warranty doesn't cover this.

[@jojoironboi]

@@niodix It very much can cover it. Granted it depends a lot on the company. I am not aware of which ones are legally obliged to cover the damages but I have a friend for example who did have a leak on a Corsair Icue cooler and Corsair covered the damage to his GPU. If the cooler is past it's warranty though I wouldn't be surprised if every company ghosts you.

[@niodix]

@@jojoironboi if fan fails on air cooler i just buy a new one. With saved and healthy gpu.

[@slavicprincess]

Yeah if you get some dumbass $50 aio

[@inguspodnieks5040]

hi are you guys polish? i feel like you are especially you and the other girl, not sure if there is more hah,

[@Hateverything]

Aio is mostly gimmicky expensive crap

[@VR00100]

What? Air coolers are any day better because you don't need to worry about the pump dieing, the liquid in the aio evaporating, or possible leaks Yes coolers are chunky but in the long run any day more superior especially for those people who use a pc for like 7-10+ years

[@Alex-tu5vu]

Yes. But they look kinda trash imo (The chunly ones that have comparable cooling to a small AIO like Noctua)

[@VR00100]

@@Alex-tu5vu looks really? In my opinion rgb makes your pc looks like a kid's toy, the fact that tower coolers don't require me to re-add coolant into the radiator is definitely a factor i cant overlook My family computer has a 3400g 120mm aio and rtx 2070 (from my old rig) does completely fine and when my 120mm dires out ill just throw it and put the stock cooler in In my main rig 5600x rtx 3070 it has a noctua nhd15 But i do agree with you that yes size is an issue as my family pc uses a b450m (mico atx form factor) so the cooler most likely will touch my gpu, already the aio pipes and in contact with my hot gigabyte rtx 2070 2x windforce card

[@Alex-tu5vu]

@@VR00100 Well, an AIO doesn't necessarily have to come with RGB (look at the arctic liquid freezer II for example). Though I personally do prefer RGB (Firm believer in the RGBible). The biggest issue with huge air coolers for me personally isn't the size narrowing your case / motherboard choices down, it's the fact that they cover my beautiful expensive RAM sticks, if I went with an air cooler I wouldn't have had to spend the money on that RAM and I'd have just gotten some kind of green PCB ram with the same speeds.

[@gabefruit165]

​@@VR00100adding to your sentence, noctua makes your pc look like you have autism.

[@VR00100]

@@gabefruit165 so if noctua makes it look like my pc has "aut1sm" then a lgbt colored AIO has ADHD 🙃

[@NoneofyourBusiness-gy9yw]

very unlikely is unacceptable considering that a drop of water will fry most electronics and might even cause a trip.

[@niodix]

In most cases it filled with non conductive liquid not water.

[@velimirminchev1630]

Noctua begs to differ AIO is better :D