Porsche 550 Build : Rear section

[@shanedoyle1057]

Very few things will get me out of bed at 1:30 in the morning. 1: burglars 2: ProShaper videos

[@proshaper]

Thanks! I might make that into a T-Shirt. Haha.

[@shanedoyle1057]

@@proshaper Haha thats not a bad idea! First customer right here 👍

[@MegaCountach]

+1

[@RonCovell]

Wray - what a fabulous demonstration of 'big-time' metalshaping with fairly basic tools!

[@proshaper]

Thanks Ron!

[@stevejones1318]

Truly amazing skill. Thanks for showing this. I'm sure 99% of people don't realise how much work goes into body panels. Even pressed panels require many hours of work by a toolmaker to fabricate the press tools.

[@blueridgeburnouts8265]

If it were anyone else I'd say its a mess of it but somehow you turn it into perfection...I'd be crying if it were me!

[@proshaper]

It's not there yet , but next week it will.

[@tomthompson7400]

A Total Marksman ... with that big hammer , a true master class.

[@whackyjinak4978]

The 550 is totally my dream car, I’m looking forward to doing one of these builds in the future!

[@andysutherlandtaylor9012]

Wray you are spoiling us ! Careful we may come to expect 3-4 videos a week :) but makes my evening Thank-You. And it would double as a Morgan doorskin blank lol.

[@PantherOwnersClub1]

Outstanding instruction as ever Wray. Before I came here I'd have been disappointed with that result after an hour but once again you show us that it takes real effort to reap the rewards.

[@proshaper]

There are faster ways but they cost too much to make just one or two panels. Labor vs Capital. Thanks, glad you are liking the videos.

[@danarbuckle6640]

You can do it Ray. My luck would be to spend a week pounding and getting my fingers crushed only to see a big freaking crack in the middle of my work. Patience e is a virtue.

[@johndavey72]

Wray . I would have binned that by now and started again but l know you've only just got going ! Thanks Master.

[@JG-kv4oi]

Your forming ability never ceases to amaze me. Looking forward to the next video. 🙂

[@harryphillips6615]

I love how your mangled metal looks just like my mangled metal.

[@proshaper]

It's a scrambled egg.😁😁😁

[@haroldhughes1261]

Best video; so far!

[@matthewmoilanen787]

It always looks God awful in the beginning but watching the panel develop over time is so rewarding. As usual, good work Wray.

[@duesenberg1000]

Nice video as always!

[@johngunn7087]

Excellent content- as usual !! Thanks, Wray.

[@MegaBob1977]

very impressive !! I am always thrilled !! thanks!!🙏🏻👏👏👏

[@ericdolan2130]

Wray, if anyone has taken your classes, or watched more than a few of your videos, the nay-sayers should know better! I'm still impressed when I see something that looks that bad, become something that looks like a factory stamped it out!

[@proshaper]

This craft and religious or political fanaticism have much in common. People get in their foxholes and trenches and just start shooting "protecting their superior ideas" lots of contention and little understanding.

[@TimeLapsesBaudet]

Brutal! magnifico trabajo

[@johnhunt6992]

Hi Wray. Really enjoying the 550 series. Looking forward to your future videos and plans for the deep gathering tool also. Best wishes for 2021.

[@nzstato]

Really cool Wray. Was thinking of your shrinking tool with the pipe - could you get some pie cut sections turned the other way to weld on. That way you have more of a 'saddle' and less chance for those edges to bite.

[@proshaper]

It worked fine, no bite marks.

[@steverice7546]

I know NOTHING about metal shaping, but I’m hooked. Excellent content, and watching these vids are very educational. Question….is it easier to divide large panels into smaller sections, or does having to join them together later cancel out any efficiency advantage?

[@CrobbDawg]

This is cool.

[@richardjones38]

Fascinating video, thanks Wray. One of my favorite cars too. It's amazing that you can shrink the material enough to form the panel around the tail light, especially without expensive shrinking machines. If you had lots of these to make, would you do all that shrinking every time, or would you put a cut in the panel so you can wrap the aluminium around the approximate cone shape around the light, then weld along the resulting edge? (i.e. effectively cutting one large wedge out instead of having to 'lose' all that material area via shrinking)

[@proshaper]

Yes, you can pie cut that is a method that will work. For low production methods the hammer forming method the Polish firm that made the Kirkham Cobra bodies is the best method. The English method of making smaller panels that are all perfect and chrome surface like and welding them together is another method. The two approaches are A: lots of shrinking or B: lots of welding. For production the equation is A : lots of labor or B: lots of capital. Each company each individual around the world latches on to one method and they usually think they have "found" the "secret sauce".😁😁😁

[@richardjones38]

@@proshaper I guess this is someone using the 'full form buck' method on a 550 part? kzbin.info/www/bejne/b4O1mqqrl5aGZ6s It looks like the buck is possibly a very thick fibreglass moulding.

[@proshaper]

@@richardjones38 yes, that is a hammerforming technique. The Polish firm that made all of the Kirkham cobra bodies techniques are much better than those in the video. Hammerforming is essentially die work. They make a non metal moulded male die, the metal is then formed over the male die. It is a totally different method than using an English wheel or power hammer.

[@AutismusPrime69]

Slap some sense into it!

[@bernardmauge6628]

Hello Wray. I have watched the whole Porsche video till the end. To watch you beat into submission the aluminum was agonizing to me. Annealing ,shrinking, heating totally destroys the tensile ability of the metal. If you are making a wind chime it is no big deal. But the metal as a shell adds to the overall rigidity of the car at least in concept. I realize these cars are never driven given their value and they are mere ornaments. But what if someone uses this technique to build himself a Testarossa for example and kills himself? What is fascinating is the real possibilities of shaping the metal until you give it the the shape you want. The technique is in itself invaluable for repairs of course, and I commend you for educating us. But to make the whole front and rear of car this way goes against logic and sanity. Please make a video with welded sections especially in reverse curves situations. A fender or a front clip should be made like a suit and sawn in. The new AC DC machines out of China have a dead pulse curve unlike traditional pulse. They call them laser welding which they are not. If you were to experiment with this new system and avoid distortion post welding I think it would be a game changer for a lot of us. Regards

[@proshaper]

There is no lack of integrity of the metal I formed on that Porsche nose. You can come destructive test it at anytime of your choosing. That is not to method I use when I make panels. It was only a video display to show the potential of the wireform and how heat can be used to correct almost impossible areas to fix in any other way. All vintage cars are less safe than modern ones. I think what you came away with is a false perception of my techniques and results and then threw a universal condemnation on the "your perception" of "my methods" . Breathe deep I have been working on collector cars since I was 12 in 1963. I hope you spread your unfounded criticism to all of the other metalshaping videos on KZbin as well. Or do you just like to tell me I'm "wrong" Are you the thumbs down guy?

[@66customsnj]

What size arbor press would you need to make an adequate gathering tool such as your?

[@proshaper]

Hi Alex, you need a 3 ton to get it done. I will get plans to make my gathering machine on my website soon. I will also offer the dies for sale.

[@66customsnj]

@@proshaper great I’m looking forward to it!

[@mackkilby8663]

Thanks for the videos it really helps with everything that's going on right now. What are the pieces coated with on your gathering tool to keep the marring from happening.

[@proshaper]

@@mackkilby8663 Trade secret, plan to sell the working bits.

[@vincef9395]

@@proshaper Funny I was just going to ask you if you have plans to make the gathering tool you have. Definitely would want this in the shop. Nice and quiet lol

[@nordsturm9376]

Merry Christmas to me! Play the video!

[@pitu66bat59]

What is alluminium alloy , tichness 1.6 mm ??????

[@proshaper]

This panel was .050".

[@svengali0]

so...going back in time, James Dean's mangled 550 spyder could well have been salvaged and repaired - because all alloy bodied hand made vehicles do start out as a 'scrambled-egg' being steadily married up to the buck..

[@steverice7546]

“Hey, do we need to anneal that piece again?” “No, I’m not a pussy.”

[@maniac7067]

No need to go to the gym

[@proshaper]

Yes. It's not a desk job.😁😁😁 You have to pace yourself, I'll be 70 in April.