Prototype Friberg/Kjellman Flapper-Locking Semiauto Rifle

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The origins of flap-locking (as used in the G41(W), G43, DShK, DP, and RPD, among others) goes back to a Swedish Lieutenant Friberg in 1870, who patented the system. At that time, however, the fouling endemic to black powder made self-loading firearms effectively impossible and so the concept would have to wait until the invention of smokeless powder to become practical. The first to actually build a rifle or machine gun (he did both) was a man named Kjellman working at the Stockholms Vapenfabrik factory in Sweden, at the turn of the 20th century. The factory was the former Nordenfelt facility, and was trying to expand into small arms manufacture by making this Friberg/Kjellman rifle for international military contracts.
About 50 examples were made in a variety of calibers and configurations, but no contracts were obtained and the rifle never entered mass production. Mechanically, it locks using the flapper system and cycles with a short recoil action. What is particularly unusual about the design is the use of a lever arm to both open and close the bolt without the aid of a recoil spring. This actually works, but feels very counterintuitive to handle by today's standards!
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@TheRogueWolf
@TheRogueWolf 6 жыл бұрын
For those who laugh at the feed malfunctions: Let's see how well YOUR body ejects things when you're 118 years old.
@zacht9447
@zacht9447 6 жыл бұрын
If this is in 8mm S patrone it is not old ammo your average K98 shoots the same stuff
@bills6093
@bills6093 6 жыл бұрын
Well, it's a prototype. This may be as good as it ever worked.
@guardsmanom134
@guardsmanom134 5 жыл бұрын
Haha, YES! PERFECT.
@handsomelarsandhisfabulousjars
@handsomelarsandhisfabulousjars 5 жыл бұрын
​@@zacht9447 It fires black powder cartridges, says in description. The ammo ran too dirty to be used in a self loading rifle long term
@zacht9447
@zacht9447 5 жыл бұрын
@@handsomelarsandhisfabulousjars no it doesn't read it again
@tdugong
@tdugong 6 жыл бұрын
You never told us Gun Puppy is guesting today's video, Ian. 😁
@jacobnugent7788
@jacobnugent7788 6 жыл бұрын
Forgotten doggos
@skribzy1157
@skribzy1157 6 жыл бұрын
I hope that pupper isn't Forgotten.
@fieldcommanderkurt
@fieldcommanderkurt 6 жыл бұрын
I got your forgotten doggo right here!en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turnspit_dog
@cericat
@cericat 4 жыл бұрын
@Little Victory Fab Co The problem there is the "forgotten doggos" would be breeds that are now extinct, which is surprisingly common, the Cane Corso was close to the same 40 years ago, and it's only been in the last 10 the breed was registered by the AKC. We're not even completely certain what some looked like as the descriptions are either vague or contradictory.
@Matt_The_Hugenot
@Matt_The_Hugenot 6 жыл бұрын
That is something special and truly truly a forgotten weapon. Imagine if a country had picked this up and ironed all the bugs out over the next ten years, it could have been the Garand of WW1, probably too many innovations though.
@olesams
@olesams 3 жыл бұрын
This comment is gold for a "what if" guy like myself. It would have to be a wealthy state, and one willing to innovate. But if we just skip the finer details. WHAT IF Germany, Britain, USA or possibly the Japanese had adopted this? What if Germany had taken the semi auto concept to heart? That would just immediately eliminate WW2 which was the far more devastating war. 3 times the casualties. Just think about that. That would make WW1 so much in their favor. Most likely not give them a W, but they would completely negate the trench warfare. The sheer firepower of a company well stocked, would negate the strategies surrounding machine gun fire and trenches. Ten men with semi automatics can put down comparably the same suppressing fire and are far more maneuverable and flexible than machine guns were in WW1. They would most likely win out in mainland Europe. There are still questions like the naval war against the british and how they would handle Japanese encroachment on their colonies. But Europe, would be completely changed. Another proper challenger to the industrial power of the US and the colonial dominion of Britain. No Hitler. No fascism (possibly in Italy). And when France is properly beaten and their sovereignty is secured, Britain can`t refuse them to build a navy. There would be rivalries over ships, colonies. Perhaps a 1930`s -40`s cold war between Germany and Britain? Not over nuclear power and moon landings, but in regards to naval power. And considering the US would be too late to stop them securing their position in europe until the war is over, there is no practical reason why the US would involve itself. Kinda interesting how such a small technical detail of weaponry could make such a big difference. Juxtaposed, an adoption of a rifle at the level of what gun jesus experienced in the video, would shorten the war incredibly too. An army that can`t use their weapons is pretty useless. They would not win WW1. but they would secure so much more, since their campaign strategy was focused on great timing and swift action. 10 million germans who could fire 5 rounds and reload in 10 seconds? Even if the rifle had a low number of bullets it could fire before it would need cleaning. Im not German or anything. I just like the what if concept.
@Brawler_1337
@Brawler_1337 Жыл бұрын
@@olesamsSame thing with InRange’s Lever Gun project. What if the US took the heart and soul of the Henry rifle and ran with it? What if we gave our soldiers 1876 Winchesters in .45-60? What if we gave our soldiers the extra training to fire while their buddies reloaded like we did with the M1 Garand? How might that have affected the battlefields of the old West or even World War 1? This is the kind of material that video games should explore, but instead we get stuff like Call of Duty Vanguard with M1 Garands chambered in .50 BMG.
@olesams
@olesams Жыл бұрын
@@Brawler_1337 A quicker US victory would not change that much i think.. considering the Americans were so hesitant to enter the wars in Europe in the first place. I mean, a huge leap in rifle tech would not change the mindset of the American people at the time. However, if the civil war had been won by a side with semi automatic weapons, that would lower casualties (shorter war= less dead) and with Roosevelts active conquest of Cuba and the mentality of the "white America to help the simple natives" could have built one hell of an empire.. A game about a quasi-nazi American empire? I would play that. I would recommend "man in the high tower". Book/series about if the nazis won ww2..
@itsconnorstime
@itsconnorstime 6 жыл бұрын
Is the dog coming up for sale at Rock island?
@logankincade661
@logankincade661 6 жыл бұрын
Is the dog fully automatic or semi-auto only?
@d4ngru5h83
@d4ngru5h83 6 жыл бұрын
logan kincade no, fires in quick bursts.... of energy when you say the word "walkies"
@partyrobbins4690
@partyrobbins4690 4 жыл бұрын
@@logankincade661 I personally prefer full semi automatic.
@adee3235
@adee3235 4 жыл бұрын
@@partyrobbins4690 excuse me *what*
@partyrobbins4690
@partyrobbins4690 4 жыл бұрын
@@adee3235 I didn't say it. An Army General that doesn't know his own rifle did.
@mattisvov
@mattisvov 4 жыл бұрын
Ian: This is a really fascinating rifle of historical significance... Comment section: PUPPY!!! Which, by the way, is the proper gentlemanly reaction to unexpected puppies.
@rad666a
@rad666a 6 жыл бұрын
Never work with a dog, they'll upstage you every time :)
@Davidautofull
@Davidautofull 6 жыл бұрын
"go away kid, ya bother me." W.C. Fields.
@DankbeastPaul
@DankbeastPaul 6 жыл бұрын
cute pupper
@TheDarwiniser
@TheDarwiniser 6 жыл бұрын
constantly puzzles me people use this babyspeak talking about dogs on the internet. ....Why?™
@harald8
@harald8 6 жыл бұрын
Because its the internet...
@LordVader1094
@LordVader1094 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheDarwiniser Because they're cute, like babies.
@craigthemonke794
@craigthemonke794 3 жыл бұрын
Don’t translate pupper in Norwegian
@peteranderson037
@peteranderson037 6 жыл бұрын
This was an improvement over the Finnegan/Freiburger patent which was held together with zip ties and powered by an old Chevy small block.
@55seddel
@55seddel 6 жыл бұрын
Peter Anderson yeah, but the later work is superior due to added Hemi. Much more tactical in a straight line.
@AndrewAMartin
@AndrewAMartin 6 жыл бұрын
Hahaha! I just watched an episode of Finnegan's Garage right before this...
@josephjoestar3275
@josephjoestar3275 4 жыл бұрын
An unexpected but welcome reference
@TorquilBletchleySmythe
@TorquilBletchleySmythe 2 жыл бұрын
Sadly original examples have been molested by impudent youngsters ditching the small block and shoehorning in a crate LS.
@phileas007
@phileas007 6 жыл бұрын
THIS isn't even a "forgotten weapon". It's so obscure yet so relevant. Absolutely brilliant.
@thegoldencaulk2742
@thegoldencaulk2742 6 жыл бұрын
I am simple gun enthusiast. I see prototype semi-auto, I click like
@silverbackseven7
@silverbackseven7 6 жыл бұрын
TheGoldenCaulk I like the cut of your gib
@thegoldencaulk2742
@thegoldencaulk2742 6 жыл бұрын
Isn't it "jib" Also, thanks
@jameshealy4594
@jameshealy4594 6 жыл бұрын
Let's not get too hasty, before you know it we'll be discussing the pronunciation of gif! (Yes, it's jib, from jib sails on ye olde ships)
@shonny61
@shonny61 6 жыл бұрын
Choosy mothers choose gif.
@alanpassat6759
@alanpassat6759 6 жыл бұрын
I like things with flaps
@daveepsin4795
@daveepsin4795 6 жыл бұрын
Animals can sense good men. This dog sensed the holiness of Gun Jesus and thus came to see the lord. Amen
@md_vandenberg
@md_vandenberg 6 жыл бұрын
Amen. /anoints self with cosmoline
@georgegillett6059
@georgegillett6059 4 жыл бұрын
Amen ☺
@Pronounced30
@Pronounced30 3 жыл бұрын
Amen
@Nf6xNet
@Nf6xNet 6 жыл бұрын
You won me over. I've finally started supporting you on Patreon based on the dog cameo. 🐶
@ForgottenWeapons
@ForgottenWeapons 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks! :)
@Hadanelith1
@Hadanelith1 6 жыл бұрын
Another *fascinating* prototype semi-auto rifle. I love the majority of your content, Ian, but I have to admit that I am by far the most pleased whenever you get your hands on prototypes. Keep on doing what you do, because it's amazing!
@ThePerfectRed
@ThePerfectRed 6 жыл бұрын
Wow, to think of self-loading rifles in the 1870s. Limited by black powder only, not by ingenuity.
@Finwolven
@Finwolven 6 жыл бұрын
Gun pupper and an interesting rifle, 100% quality video!
@everythingexplained
@everythingexplained 3 жыл бұрын
Cool mechanism in that rifle. I got some chills when the manufacturer had installed a face guard, it must mean that at some point the bolt had done a Kentucky Ballistic!
@damiangrouse4564
@damiangrouse4564 6 жыл бұрын
Puppy Certified!
@emilhajbert5326
@emilhajbert5326 6 жыл бұрын
Would be cool if you got your hands on a Kjellman LMG. Bet you already have a video of it waiting to be released
@GreatgoatonFire
@GreatgoatonFire 6 жыл бұрын
You can really tell that Gun Jesus know more german than swedish in this video. Not that there's anything wrong with that.
@Merecir
@Merecir 6 жыл бұрын
Vapenfabrik = Vaapenfabreek
@Zretgul_timerunner
@Zretgul_timerunner 6 жыл бұрын
Vapenfabrik = Vaepenfabrick (or vapenfabrik in simple nomenclature.) essentially spells out like that.
@JT-ho6rp
@JT-ho6rp 6 жыл бұрын
GreatgoatonFire Germans, alongside americans. Have contributed an overwhelming amount of designs/ideas to firearms. So knowing some German is a must when it comes to guns.
@Merecir
@Merecir 6 жыл бұрын
Only a Norwegian would pronounce fabrik with a quick i. In Swedish it is pronounced fab-reek. With a short rolling R.
@GreatgoatonFire
@GreatgoatonFire 6 жыл бұрын
Well yeah mantis I don't *expect* Ian to know any swedish but I found it a bit entertaining that he pronounced the names like someone speaking german instead of they way english speakers then to.
@thevoxofreason8468
@thevoxofreason8468 6 жыл бұрын
Primitive versions of any system always interest me because of their complexity. I love comparing them to newer versions of the system in order to study the simplified solutions used to solve the same problems. This thing is neat.
@ztbmarine
@ztbmarine 6 жыл бұрын
The puppy is the real mvp.
@Thatonedude917
@Thatonedude917 6 жыл бұрын
It's like they cut an outline around the round for the ejection/loading port
@chromesphere
@chromesphere 6 жыл бұрын
Thats why it had so many failures to eject. Still way ahead of it's time though.
@LN997-i8x
@LN997-i8x 3 жыл бұрын
It reminds me of the Schmidt-Rubin rifles and their small ejection ports.
@urbanwikstrom9246
@urbanwikstrom9246 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Ian! Nice to see a Swedish gun on the show. This may be the early beginnings to the AG m/42. That was not a bad rifle. Thanks!
@lordDenis16
@lordDenis16 6 жыл бұрын
This... i think just became my new favorite rifle ;-; sooo unorthodox
@gihrenzabi7271
@gihrenzabi7271 6 жыл бұрын
I want one. Like how I want a Norwegian Krag rifle in 6.5 Swede.
@matthayward7889
@matthayward7889 6 жыл бұрын
It’s not often a gun takes second place in a FW video, but in this case I think puppy totally steals it
@Katzenkratscher
@Katzenkratscher 6 жыл бұрын
Friberg is not pronounced "Friberg". It is pronounced "Friberg".
@ForgottenWeapons
@ForgottenWeapons 6 жыл бұрын
Well, that's all much clearer now! :)
@wuhr2790
@wuhr2790 5 жыл бұрын
@@ForgottenWeapons Haha.... It's not easy to satisfy everyone, Ian.
@carlosmartinez-gd5nt
@carlosmartinez-gd5nt 3 жыл бұрын
Why do i love weapons? When you can make a magazine spring look like a work of art!
@TheBudgetGunCollector
@TheBudgetGunCollector 2 жыл бұрын
Gotta love how many moving parts WWI Era guns have
@g-dcomplex1609
@g-dcomplex1609 2 жыл бұрын
you can see, like many other military type rifles from the late1800's early 1900's, the length of the barrel is a hold over from the black powder musket era
@erikgranqvist3680
@erikgranqvist3680 6 жыл бұрын
You dont mess upp the Swedish top much. God job!
@steelwolf9454
@steelwolf9454 6 жыл бұрын
Gun hound ! ))))))
@williestyle35
@williestyle35 4 жыл бұрын
If only... could be said for many great ideas that could not get the kinks worked out. This *could have been* the first self loading, semi-automatic rifle, but didn't work well enough with black powder ( the only available to its designer, Mr. Friberg ). This rifle was not ready to be switched to the then new smokeless powder, when it arrived. So the first semi-automatic military rifle produced for field use would end up being the Madsen Rasmussen M 1888.
@ahettinger525
@ahettinger525 6 жыл бұрын
Obscure prototype gun, cute puppy. My day is made. Merry Christmas!
@magnusjakobsson7925
@magnusjakobsson7925 6 жыл бұрын
Cool to see something Swedish, would love to see more of that! On a separate note; Kjellman is actually pronounced shell (as in the gas station) and man, so saying shellman would get you closer to the Swedish pronounciation :). Keep the awesome videos comming!
@c99kfm
@c99kfm Жыл бұрын
Where do you get a sh-sound in Kjellman?
@magnusjakobsson7925
@magnusjakobsson7925 Жыл бұрын
@@c99kfm you just do ... I'm no linguistics expert but I am Swedish 🤷🏼‍♂️
@c99kfm
@c99kfm Жыл бұрын
@@magnusjakobsson7925 Scanian?
@johndanielroos
@johndanielroos Жыл бұрын
@@c99kfm: KJ combined forms that sound in swedish. See en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voiceless_alveolo-palatal_fricative
@c99kfm
@c99kfm Жыл бұрын
@@johndanielroos Nay, compare "sjok" and "kjol": en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish_phonology?useskin=vector#Fricatives
@joshuadavey8937
@joshuadavey8937 6 жыл бұрын
Is that a goddamn Doberman?! I just found another reason to love this Channel!
@giovannitallino7513
@giovannitallino7513 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Ian, a great video! And many thanks to the owner of the gun. Not many owners of antique and rare firearms would want to fire them or have them fired, even for educational purposes. By the way, Ian, could this system be considered a precursor of the inertial system?
@Snagabott
@Snagabott 4 жыл бұрын
Props to the owner for letting us all enjoy that gun back in glorious action - after 118 years!
@Reckec
@Reckec 6 жыл бұрын
The recoil in the slow motion video looks harsh except I bet the lever arm catching and returning the bolt smooths out felt recoil. It seems that the lever pivoting and reversing the bolts direction might slow the bolt and smooth out the direction change / recoil impact. Interesting idea but seems unreliable and in need of a lot of refinement to change that. Great video as usual. Love seeing these type weapons.
@royperkins3851
@royperkins3851 5 жыл бұрын
Watching the bolt on this rifle makes me grateful for modern equipment!
@elestromusicgamesfun1101
@elestromusicgamesfun1101 6 жыл бұрын
I live 20 min from where Stockholms vapenfabrik used to be. Cool vid Ian, thanks, always nice to see Swedish gun history on this channel :)
@aserta
@aserta 6 жыл бұрын
Amazing episode!!! And what a rifle too :)
@daveykristjanson3052
@daveykristjanson3052 Жыл бұрын
Love the historical weapons you shoot. Do you have a video on the 577-450 martini rifle?
@Fruitfactory
@Fruitfactory 6 жыл бұрын
Friberg is pronounced like "Free+berg" not Frei-berg". Very interesting stuff. Btw, "Vapenfabrik" was almost spot on. Almost.
@ОлегКозлов-ю9т
@ОлегКозлов-ю9т 6 жыл бұрын
Ian, I demand that from now on you count ammo like "One! Ha-ha-ha!..Two! Ha-ha-ha!..Five! Five rounds in a magazine!"
@bengunderman5382
@bengunderman5382 2 жыл бұрын
The good old days when the high speed camera made the guns sound like a demon.
@The762nato
@The762nato 6 жыл бұрын
The name your looking for is accelerator . This was also used in the M-40 Lathi pistol to ensure function in adverse conditions .
@Tobascodagama
@Tobascodagama 6 жыл бұрын
Seems like maybe enlarging the ejection port -- which you talk about during the early examination -- would have totally fixed those ejection problems? Really interesting gun, though! Makes you wonder about an alternate reality where this was the dominant operating mechanism for all of our self-loading rifles!
@Shellshock1918
@Shellshock1918 6 жыл бұрын
hello fren. chicken nuggets?
@baneofbanes
@baneofbanes 6 жыл бұрын
A video with a prototype semi suit AND a dog?! Man today is my lucky day!
@vmerkwurdigliebe3751
@vmerkwurdigliebe3751 4 жыл бұрын
A man beyond his era.
@VegasCyclingFreak
@VegasCyclingFreak 6 жыл бұрын
Fascinating design, seems kinda complex to manufacture and not very easy to maintain but still is very interesting
@johnwilson2338
@johnwilson2338 2 жыл бұрын
I know that this particular video is 4yrs old, but I just wanted to say that I find it hilarious yet complimentary that several other KZbinrs have mentioned you in their videos as "The gun Jesus"! And FYI, you are mentioned, actually, quite frequently. I know that I have spent probably too much time watching the plethora of information that you tend to provide. Keep it coming.!
@thewolfpack5290
@thewolfpack5290 6 жыл бұрын
Greetings from Germany! Love your channel!
@C0SSAC
@C0SSAC 6 жыл бұрын
thewolfpack ian ist der beste 😂
@gabemando7823
@gabemando7823 6 жыл бұрын
Pablo Gappa bestewaggen*
@Selador_
@Selador_ 6 жыл бұрын
A german with a valknot icon. What are the odds?
@thewolfpack5290
@thewolfpack5290 6 жыл бұрын
Ja, seine Videos sind einfach gut gemacht. Ian ist ein *echter* Experte, ein Fachmann der diesem Titel noch wirklich würdig ist!
@EmpPeng2k7
@EmpPeng2k7 6 жыл бұрын
Sounds like you would enjoy a refined reproduction of the action in a current cartridge
@EmpPeng2k7
@EmpPeng2k7 6 жыл бұрын
very true
@craigthemonke794
@craigthemonke794 3 жыл бұрын
I think it would make a good sporting rifle
@oskarwest3307
@oskarwest3307 6 жыл бұрын
Kjellman is prononced chelman
@Zajuts149
@Zajuts149 6 жыл бұрын
where the ch is pronounced like in the German "Reich".
@Lowkeh
@Lowkeh 6 жыл бұрын
or shell
@Zajuts149
@Zajuts149 6 жыл бұрын
Then you pronounce it like it was written skj- or sj-.
@Reikianolla
@Reikianolla 6 жыл бұрын
That's one of the few things that don't make sense in Swedish pronunciation. Sh or Ch (depending on dialect) sounds can be made by all of these letters: t, tj, k, sh, sch, sk, g, skj, and so on.
@sonny9600
@sonny9600 6 жыл бұрын
Why wouldn't it?
@KatherineClairmont
@KatherineClairmont 6 жыл бұрын
aww, your puppy is adorable.
@PhilAlm92
@PhilAlm92 3 жыл бұрын
Love seeing Swedish stuff. BTW ”Fri” in Friberg means ”free” and is pronounced pretty much the same as ”Free” but with a rolling R.
@PhilAlm92
@PhilAlm92 3 жыл бұрын
Just imagine how a guard in Skyrim would pronounce ”free” I guess 😅
@PaulP999
@PaulP999 Жыл бұрын
First time he has produced something from his lap that isn't a weapon....
@JerryEricsson
@JerryEricsson 6 жыл бұрын
Ah Sweden, the only nation in Europe that I would love to travel to. My Great Grandfather came to America from Sweden in the 1870's and settled in Dakota. They say he had a farm yet in "the old country" that one of his son's maintained for him, as well as one here. He used to travel to see his family in Sweden (wife and son) then return here to Dakota to live with his Wife and several son's and keep the Dakota farm a going. Ah for the good old days.
@Hubert_Cumberdale_
@Hubert_Cumberdale_ 5 жыл бұрын
You are welcome to visit
@RobertoDonatti
@RobertoDonatti 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Ian, when you commented on the possibility of firing out of battery, I remembered the video where you told about a rifle blowing up on you. You never said what type of rifle it was. Could you reveal this "secret"?
@RobertoDonatti
@RobertoDonatti 6 жыл бұрын
I saw both videos. But Ian never said which gun had gone kaboom.
@patrikhjorth3291
@patrikhjorth3291 6 жыл бұрын
Always interesting to see some of my country's history like this, thanks Ian! As always, I feel compelled to nit-pick on your pronounciation: The "Fri-" part of Friberg is pronounced like "free", because it is the same word. The "-berg" part... the closest example I can think of is ""barge", which isn't exactly right but probably the closest an english speaker can normally get. The "Kjell-" part of Kjellman is pronounced like "shell". I think it's related to a word for "wellspring", but I wouldn't put money on it.
@charlesinglin
@charlesinglin 6 жыл бұрын
Very ingenious design. I think, though, cover over the back of t he receiver might have made it more comfortable for the user. Seeing that bolt come straight back at your eye, even with the safety flap, has to be a bit unnerving.
@wisewarnanazara317
@wisewarnanazara317 6 жыл бұрын
The doggo will soon become a forgotten doggo.
@SpaceCityManny
@SpaceCityManny 6 жыл бұрын
There's no way Discovery,History,or the Military channel haven't offered Ian his own show on their networks
@nindger4270
@nindger4270 6 жыл бұрын
Those channels are for entertainment, not for education. Seriously, that's all they do. Half-truths interspersed with random made-up bullshit as long as it makes for good entertainment.
@MERLK2
@MERLK2 6 жыл бұрын
Oh nooooo - you wouldn´t suggest that the channels with a fanbase that has the opinion that the BAR is the best MG/LMG/UMG/HMG of WW2, and the rest of history is the work of spacealiens, could be a bit on the sloppy side regarding research, wouldn`t you :D
@Tuton25
@Tuton25 6 жыл бұрын
I believe they actually have, but they required him to do things he didn’t agree with. I think it was in a q&a video, I’ll see if I can find it...
@Belnick6666
@Belnick6666 6 жыл бұрын
if they have it might be a good time to jump there as youtube is dying
@koettfaers
@koettfaers 5 жыл бұрын
@@nindger4270 "entertainment" is subjective. I find real history, real facts, presented maturely and calmly entertaining. More so if its some what of a serious topic, like history, wars, guns etc. The entertainment on those channels isnt entertainment in my eyes. I simply dont watch it. Im ashamed to think of the direction those channels have taken and I refuse to believe Its because its what "the people want".
@Jesses001
@Jesses001 6 жыл бұрын
It is interesting that the bolt is kicked open and kicked closed. You are right. We do not really have any firearms that I can think of that use that system these days. I wounder if there are any hidden advantages and/or disadvantages to such a system over spring systems we use today.
@Maratusvolans
@Maratusvolans 6 жыл бұрын
About the pronunciations: All you have to do to is type it in google translate, press the speaker button and you will hear how it is pronounced. (If anyone cares that is, but there seem to be a lot of comments about Swedish pronunciation).
@Maratusvolans
@Maratusvolans 6 жыл бұрын
iatsd I tested all words from this video and its all correct.
@gihrenzabi7271
@gihrenzabi7271 6 жыл бұрын
www.howtopronounce.com/swedish/kjellman/
@davidgrover5996
@davidgrover5996 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tip.
@Arphalia
@Arphalia 6 жыл бұрын
Holy cow, the insides of this thing looks like it would be an absolute nightmare to try and mass produce. A fascinating firearm nontheless.
@dwightehowell8179
@dwightehowell8179 6 жыл бұрын
This thing gets posted very early and 365 people see it in minutes! Of course some of seem to have been Europeans.
@ThePageofCups
@ThePageofCups 6 жыл бұрын
Or people who just work early/late.
@vrisbrianm4720
@vrisbrianm4720 6 жыл бұрын
And fans from Asia ;)
@aeropb
@aeropb 6 жыл бұрын
what an unusual piece
@hazcat640
@hazcat640 6 жыл бұрын
Ian, I canceled my Patreon due to policy decisions by Patreon. Please consider alternative methods of support so I can continue my pledge. Thank you.
@yangcheng-jyun8542
@yangcheng-jyun8542 6 жыл бұрын
What's wrong with Patreon?Just curious
@ForgottenWeapons
@ForgottenWeapons 6 жыл бұрын
They scrapped their proposed new fee structure: blog.patreon.com/not-rolling-out-fees-change/ Or did they do something new?
@hazcat640
@hazcat640 6 жыл бұрын
Yes, I know they rolled back the proposed fees but they keep throwing content makers off for political views and also some firearm related content.
@Dies1r4e
@Dies1r4e 6 жыл бұрын
Agreed maybe a website with a "give me five bucks" button ala something like Star Citizen? I don't really agree with Patreons methods and would like a way to throw you spare cash whenever its around instead of on a payment plan.
@Dies1r4e
@Dies1r4e 6 жыл бұрын
Paypal is horrifically anti gun.
@42astrutsen
@42astrutsen 6 жыл бұрын
Oh what a sweet dog! :) And nice to learn of another Swedish gun that I hadn't heard of before. Kjellman is pronounced "Chellman", by the way. :)
@DoRC
@DoRC 6 жыл бұрын
5:15 I didn't know they made vape equipment that long ago!
@Davvisth
@Davvisth 6 жыл бұрын
Do R/C! ”Vapen” means weapon in swedish. So vapenfabrik means ”weapon factory”
@DoRC
@DoRC 6 жыл бұрын
David thanks for the info! I was making a joke however:)
@Davvisth
@Davvisth 6 жыл бұрын
Haha i know! Just wanted to inform in any case there are anyone who would be interested in knowing what it meant :)
@asthmaticrhino
@asthmaticrhino 6 жыл бұрын
if they made this for use with black powder, the clouds of smoke made with a mag dump would put any vape enthusiast to shame
@Zretgul_timerunner
@Zretgul_timerunner 6 жыл бұрын
Guys we made black powder lmgs in 1870. Xd
@raider6511
@raider6511 6 жыл бұрын
Nice old gun. Like ur reviews on old and new stuff. Keep it up. Nice friendly DOGGY.
@paulmanson253
@paulmanson253 6 жыл бұрын
As of Dec 22,2017. 602830 subscribers. 2000 plus likes. And still, I repeat still 11 dislikes. Whoever dislikes this of all his videos is simply accessing bad drugs. A stress engineer and a watchmaker conspired to create this concept. And Ian gets to shoot this transitional product with roughly period ammunition. Wow just wow. Excellent slo-mo. A big thank you to the owner and all who brought this to the general public. Cheers people.
@StevePlegge
@StevePlegge 6 жыл бұрын
MOAR GUN PUPPER!
@cudwieser3952
@cudwieser3952 6 жыл бұрын
Awww! Ian has a new friend :)
@squirrelonmapletree
@squirrelonmapletree 6 жыл бұрын
Guns like this is why I view this channel. Extremely old, yet firing, but works in a way that is uncommon nowadays.
@usmcassaultman
@usmcassaultman 4 жыл бұрын
It may be odd today to have a bolt on a semiauto which is not controlled directly by a spring but a great benefit to it is that there is no danger of pinching one’s fingers in the bolt while loading the magazine. There is no spring constantly putting foreward pressure on the bolt and thus no “Garand thumb” or should I say “Ljungman thumb” since Ian is in Sweden?
@flyingmanforfun
@flyingmanforfun 6 жыл бұрын
Pretty cool that you actually visited sweden, many people seem to think we cant own shit when we actually can own semi auto rifles and stuff, not particulary hard to get a license, only downside its an very expensive hobby..
@GiordanoBruno42
@GiordanoBruno42 6 жыл бұрын
When it fails to feed/eject cases, is that just an inevitable thing that happens to old semi autos or is it a failure in design? Or partly both? Anyone who can answer for someone who is a bit gun naive, it would be appreciated :) Love this channel, not normally a big gun person but KZbin is converting me because of these gun channels that take a historians view.
@KitsuneRogue
@KitsuneRogue 6 жыл бұрын
hknuddv It seems to be a bit of both honestly. But it wouldn't have near as any ejection issues if the feed/eject port was wider. Rifle shells never get spat out the exact same way every time and if it leans to the side then it hits the side of the reciever and jams as it did in the test firing. But I'm sure when it was new it had much better tolerances.
@GiordanoBruno42
@GiordanoBruno42 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the information all :)
@AsbestosMuffins
@AsbestosMuffins 6 жыл бұрын
hknuddv looks like its because the slot for the ejection is really tiny and the ammo is probably not quite up to what it was when it was new
@ToastyMozart
@ToastyMozart 6 жыл бұрын
A little bit of both. Automatics tend to have failures to extract/eject every so often, but in modern weapons it's really rare; once every few hundred/thousand rounds for a typical rifle. This one got it really bad, mostly because the ejection port was cut waaaay too small and the cartridge wasn't reliably clearing it. Ejectors just kinda fling a spent casing in the general direction they're installed on, so if you don't allow for some variance there while designing then you'll run into problems.
@petesampson4273
@petesampson4273 6 жыл бұрын
As others have mentioned, hknuddv, it's most likely a combination of things. Small ejection port, age and wear, unfamiliarity with the weapon, and possibly ammo that's just a tiny bit different than what was produced when it was new. It should also be noted that this gun was a prototype and the same general system wasn't perfected until some time later. It's entirely possible it never worked well or only worked in other calibers. Cheers!
@piatpotatopeon8305
@piatpotatopeon8305 5 жыл бұрын
I just found my new "hunting rifle" for my next Dark Heresy game.
@gunner678
@gunner678 6 жыл бұрын
It must be Christmas, a puppy show up! Merry Christmas from France Joyeux Noel Mais Ami
@Daedalus-ed5nd
@Daedalus-ed5nd 5 жыл бұрын
"Stockholms Vapenfabrik": "Stockholm´s Weapon Factory" Friberg ~ Freeberiy Kjellman ~ Shellman ("sh" produced further back in the mouth)
@USSEnterpriseA1701
@USSEnterpriseA1701 6 жыл бұрын
Well normally, the gun is the highlight for me, but with my own 90 pound, not-quite-a-year-old puppy sitting next to me as I watch this, today's highlight was a little different.
6 жыл бұрын
There is still a company called "Stockholms vapenfabrik (Stockholm weaponfactory)". Not sure if there is any relation but they sell spare parts for m45/b and other Swedish firearms. Great company.
@Morbacounet
@Morbacounet 6 жыл бұрын
Are you going to make a video about the dog ? Its history, how it operates and maybe disassemble it ?
@linzheng5918
@linzheng5918 2 жыл бұрын
NOW I REALIZED THAT THE M1-GARAND IS NOT SO SPECIAL.
@psychronic8327
@psychronic8327 4 жыл бұрын
Doggo runs up Gun Jesus : well hello there
@belbro62
@belbro62 6 жыл бұрын
gun jesus merry christmas
@cross3052
@cross3052 5 жыл бұрын
Pretty neat.
@elexios6208
@elexios6208 6 жыл бұрын
Thank mr friberg
@jerrykindlin
@jerrykindlin 6 жыл бұрын
does it come with an optic?
@idiotmannen
@idiotmannen 6 жыл бұрын
I just love to see our Swedish guns featured on this superb channel !
@rautavaara9194
@rautavaara9194 6 жыл бұрын
No snow for Sweden this Christmas?
@SgtStinger
@SgtStinger 6 жыл бұрын
Hey Ian! Very interesting rifle. FYI, Kjellman is pronounced "Shell-man", but other than that all the other names are pronounced as correctly as can be expected. Source: Am Swedish.
@pikeywyatt
@pikeywyatt 6 жыл бұрын
and here i am at 71 and layed low by the common cold.bank you berymuch.
@rooseveltbrentwood9654
@rooseveltbrentwood9654 5 жыл бұрын
tony Wyatt in dog years yah?
@Face2theScr33n
@Face2theScr33n 4 жыл бұрын
At least it's not the SarsCoV-2...
@Stukov961
@Stukov961 6 жыл бұрын
Quality Swedish engineering right there.
@Netchus
@Netchus 6 жыл бұрын
I see an interesting new gun for the medic class in Battlefield1
@lfr5007
@lfr5007 6 жыл бұрын
This was an awesome video! I love when you get a chance to shoot these old ridles!
@KaletheQuick
@KaletheQuick 2 жыл бұрын
Added to "FW videos with doggos" playlist.
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