Why Fighting Game Ranked Sucks

[@weska_ggs4793]

game won't let me destroy literal children anymore 0/10 ranked system

[@weska_ggs4793]

@@CuteAssTiger i meant in the fact i cant bully the people on the first floor its a joke btw

[@henriniemela1746]

@@weska_ggs4793 but you can bully players with the skill of a floor 1 player (Sol,ram,may,leo,gio)

[@dingusdangus1790]

The final tier of enlightenment is realizing that all forms of rank and all forms of matchmaking are a mistake. Reject skinner's boxes, embrace community.

[@Proxic0n]

YES! So much this. Finally someone gets it lmao

[@Thatonedude227]

Fighting games are weird. They’re amazing and I love them but man, they’re like 8 years behind other games feature wise.

[@Proxic0n]

Actually though, it's kind of ridiculous

[@slkjvlkfsvnlsdfhgdght5447]

more like 15 years

[@kanathedragon1195]

THERE I AM, GARY! THERE I AM!!

[@JarlSwagDog]

I personally appreciate what NRS did with MK11's online forcing players to do sets instead of letting them winquit/losequit

[@Proxic0n]

I prefer that model as it's more like both players are agreeing to a certain amount of play time. Instead of just getting 1-and-done'd every other game and wasting time searching for games.

[@SirKapa]

Education through memes - As it should be.

[@bert6236]

GGST letting you choose who to play against (or more likely, allowing you to dodge players/characters you don't want to play...) is the single worst aspect about its matchmaking, man. If you play Sol or Axl, people WILL dodge you. If you have a high level on your character or that aura effect, people WILL also dodge you. It's a terrible idea to show those things for their "ranked" mode. Having it in the parks is fine since you're usually there for just match up experience. One more "casual friendly matchmaking" option I'd love to see in some fighting games is a "get a different character each round" mode, that'd be dope. Like Mystery Heroes in Overwatch.

[@arkham9784]

For me fighting games and card games are the only games where i can play ranked without anxiety. If i lose its on me and i can learn from my mistakes. I get so anxious and tilted on team based games.

[@arkham9784]

@@CuteAssTiger I mean we humas will blame on everything, i do it in the moment. "i bliocked taht, that combo is bs etc etc but after i try to think what could i do different. I dont think the lol fg will be popular because fg are not popular. The 1 on 1 aspect is intimidating.

[@luffydpirate9518]

Then that sounds like you have a problem if you get anxiety from a video game.

[@GekkoSquirrel]

I love this, I didn't pay for that I swear this is slander

[@Gibbs_300]

I personally use casual mode in fighting games to warm up and shake off rust to get into ranked mode, but I see your points great video

[@Proxic0n]

Me too! It's also a great tool to learn new characters. I'm not super happy with the points I left in for casual but it is what it is

[@biso9749]

I loved the video dude! you did a really great job on it. also MOM COME LOOK IM IN A PROXI VIDEO (SEVERAL TIMES)!!!

[@Samurai_Edd]

Always great to see you upload again!

[@xavibun]

Fighting games for me give me far less anxiety than team-based games when I lose, I don't get the feeling like I let anyone down when I'm alone.

[@Sorcerer_Lynx]

You are wrong about casual mm in fighting games, not everyone want to be the best player but simply want to have fun. Thats why having a casual mode is needed, to make sure players who simply want fun don't face players who want to sweat their ass off to get rank point or only care about being better and better.

[@Proxic0n]

👍

[@cavangriffin1514]

Wow your videos are so well made, you're very underappreciated. Good luck with growing your channel, you got a new sub just now

[@Proxic0n]

Thank you :) this means the world

[@cavangriffin1514]

@@Proxic0n Anytime, seriously wish you the best!

[@Pink_Mara]

Nice video Mr. Proxicon

[@commdaofighting]

Ranked anxiety... Pretty much explains it. I never thought I'd be able to get to A rank in DOA6, and now that I'm there, each set feels really stressful.

[@tanyaharmon6739]

"Communaticng with server"

[@amememachine8974]

This was nice and all but i still look like a toddler on the controllers with no visible improvement after 5 hours of practicing potemkin

[@Ironpecker]

Great video, but especially the rythmn thief ost was a fucking magical choice

[@Proxic0n]

I'm glad you liked it :) I put a great deal of thought into my song choices so that means a lot

[@KingPN]

The only thing that I hate about ranked and casuals in almost every fighting game right now is that everybody seems to forget that Africa is a continent and we can actually play their goddamn games. Rollback is fun and all but when you sit at the bottom tip of Africa the only you're gonna get games are through discord with vets that've been playing since +R and are somehow celestial rank while each game you find is 250ms... I really sucks man. I'm not trying to get washed by top 8 placing dudes in their local tourneys, I just want to have fun with someone on my level, there are some people that are but hardly ever online or just are when I'm not.

[@El-Burrito]

The Strive floor thing seemed cool but as a newer player I found it difficult to actually find anyone to play against. It seems like everyone playing is already in the floors above me and there wasn't much competition available at my level.

[@probable4661]

I keep getting recommended this

[@probable4661]

Actually pretty good

[@davis1228]

Infinite rematches should NOT be in Ranked. Being able to farm one opponent, who you keep beating but won't give up, for points destroys any relation between rank and skill level. This also negatively impacts matchmaking. Keep ranked sets to tourney-like FT2 or FT3, and do NOT let players see the opponent's character. That way you can duck certain matchups and endlessly farm worse opponents or favorable matchups. It's the only way Ranked and matchmaking will work properly, along with a large playerbase (which requires the game to appeal to a varied audience, not a narrow niche) and rollback netcode.

[@genericbonk]

me: yeah, i'm doing good with potemkin, but maybe I should switch to axl to cover his weaknesess that random player: 7:21

[@TheAJwr]

What's the deal with rating updates?? 😀

[@Proxic0n]

*Seinfeld theme*

[@salhyy9962]

2:06 This song This god damn song Make it stop Make it freaking stop

[@Ironraven24]

"game is fun because its fun" nice

[@josesosa3337]

I know theres always a sub culture of "reverse boosting" in certian shooters but i wonder if its prevealent in fighting games. Reverse boosting in a shooter is either killing yourself over and over, dying and doing bad on purpose, and completing challenges with other players during a match. Most of the time this is done so players are put in lobbies with players that are worse than they are. I don't know if I'm guilty of "soft reverse boosting " becuase i always mix up how i play in any game. I wouldn't call myself trash but i don't follow meta on purpose to mix up my play style. I'm smart enough to know i can study match ups and such but i choose not to. If that makes sense.

[@Proxic0n]

I've seen some deranking before but mostly I think people will just make a smurf account or in Tekken they will delete their save files to reset their rank. I used to hit derankers ALL the time in CSGO but haven't seen anyone doing it in Fighting games at least in my experience

[@АртёмТор-к2ю]

9:19 no, bad analogy . there are mill every day in cs and god know how much in lol. but gg has no enought players to fill 1 gamemode, so you dont want split it

[@Cassapphic]

9:39 Congratulations

[@slkjvlkfsvnlsdfhgdght5447]

man, i would LOVE q game mode where you can only gain stuff. i suffe from ranked/ladder anxiety like frfr

[@zolikoff]

Any kind of unranked mode? You can only gain stuff - game experience.

[@slkjvlkfsvnlsdfhgdght5447]

@@zolikoff for example, but i meant a mode where you can still get points, just not lose them

[@zolikoff]

I have no idea what Tekken is loading so much. It has so few assets that you could literally load all of them during the game boot up and just toggle between them. But instead it even needs to reload the same fucking map and two characters every time. They're already loaded, wtf.

[@Proxic0n]

Seriously though! It's insane

[@thepear6684]

The FG Doctor is back🙃

[@pohatunuva3771]

Do you guys play any Touhou 12.3/15.5 on that server?

[@Proxic0n]

Not sure but we have people that play pretty much everything

[@Vitz_atelier]

9:37 So what you basically want is Xrd M.O.M. lol

[@dasheiten]

In ranked gamemodes I'm generally pretty low rank due to the ranks putting a lot of stress on me and making me play bad, but in more casual modes I play significantly better.

[@acebrochacho854]

RATING UPDATED

[@OtakuDreams]

Ranked really does bring this unknown drive out of people. I'm often relaxed in my matches & usually play with zero brain (cuz forget my ranking lol), but the sets where the other dude's battling his heart out for absolutely no reason forces me to reciprocate their energy, so now I gotta sit up & do calculations and whatnot just to have "fun". Making me do stuff I don't even wanna do 😂

[@stickynote4582]

why gollum lookin so pretty tho 😔✌

[@raionbomber75]

KoF keeps matching me up with Mexicans and Brazilians, I can't learn anything 😭😂😭

[@thepear6684]

Is that Melty Blood Music? Are you gonna play the new one?😏

[@Proxic0n]

Not melty music but I'll def be playing the new one

[@thepear6684]

@@Proxic0n clean👌🍺

[@Toomnyusernae]

Wait. So people are stressing over a title? Dafuq?

[@jojo95DK]

I don't really agree with this video First of all, I understand why limiting the amount of rematch is necessary, it's so you don't grind ranks by fighting the same guy over and over Speaking of ranks, I don't understand the idea that rank =/= skill, it's not absolute, but let's not pretend it's not a great indicator of your skill level, if you lose points, it means you play badly and need to improve or get back on tracks Nothing to say about casual, I agree with that, it's fine to play with friends or just testing new chars without dropping ranks

[@T_Jester]

i dont think its that bad

[@TheTomac]

see youre missing the benefit of ranked modes: they filter out all the sweaty unpleasant people to their own little playground, in any game

[@niemand7811]

Really? I remember when I was a scrub in fighting games and a friend kept wiping his digital butt with my digital mug in Ultimate Mortal Kombat 3. But after only few weeks I could manage to land equal chances to win the fights, which kinda surprised him. So keeping the scrubs out of your reach is just modern luxury and not helping the scrubs at all.

[@jimmyreyz4363]

Yo I respect youropinion in this video and like your content. However, casual match is not useless or pointless. Its so you can learn MU without people leaving because they can't rank up off you. Its also just to play without people clinging to comeback mechanics too hard example. Tekken 7 rage art every single round. Its to refine and practice what you know in a live match. Then when you want to, you go on ranked and get sweaty. It definitely has a purpose and is not useless.