PSA Palmetto State Armory Is Getting Sued & Rock Island Armory & Others

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[@lonewolf9390]

How in the hell is PSA and Rock Island Armory liable for faulty ammo produced by another company? That makes zero sense.

[@Mike80528]

Deep pocket lawsuits.

[@HatsuneM1ku01]

Because the main goal is to sue every gun manufacturer into bankruptcy to go out of business, since they can’t legally outright ban them

[@hattorihanzo2275]

Plaintiff is a disgrace. This has nothing to do with PSA. Lawsuit is a shakedown for a settlement.

[@Johnclark300]

Everything that is happening to the gun manufacturers is designed to put them out of business.

[@46bovine]

Exactly!

[@waltermckinney606]

Sue all and see who willing settle and makes LAWYERS rich

[@tonymickens8803]

Not if He Bought the Ammo from PSA!

[@gyrfalcon-6]

No it's not a disgrace. I literally had one of their rifles blow up on me. I contacted them and they ghosted me. They deserve this lawsuit

[@irishroverinflorida5822]

We would be so much better off without all of these ambulance chasing attorney's.

[@2aEdu]

I agree! I hope you have a good July 4th weekend man!

[@vernongandy9026]

Lawyers are in a feeding frenzy. Gun control money is their latest diet.

[@UncleSam-7.62]

Irving Sheister attorney at law. 🤢🤮

[@UncleSam-7.62]

PSA should make us all sign a Waiver so hardup folks won't ruin a Good thing for the rest of us. I Love PSA. Rock Island? Not so much. 🇺🇲❤️

[@vernongandy9026]

It's all about the control. Liberals have run the gun manufacturing out of the North. All of this is happening while lawyers are graciously helping the anti gun people pro bono.

[@jrco2142]

It sucks the guy went through that awful situation, however, PSA is not responsible. If anything, ammo company is liable.

[@p47rr]

They need to ban together. And counter sue. Period.

[@vernongandy9026]

It's all about gun control and lawyers making money.

[@paytreonsuhks]

I would also comment this but it'll get automatically deleted. You are right though

[@vernongandy9026]

@@paytreonsuhks It's funny how lawyers throughout the history of America, have helped or ruined our society. Right now they are working pro bono filing lawsuits for the anti gun people.

[@mikesharpe66]

Attorneys will file to sue anybody that had anything to do with that firearm. i’m surprised they left out the trucking companies that delivered to firearms to the retailer.. they are looking for the companies to settle out of court.

[@2aEdu]

Our country has gone crazy!

[@garypascucci5797]

That's why they are called "sheisters"

[@HatsuneM1ku01]

The shipping companies are antigun and on their side, so they won’t touch them

[@cheesemouse7774]

This is a total BS lawsuit. PSA has nothing to do with the manufacture of the firearm used, or the ammunition used.

[@rowansutherland1853]

The post & courier is in Charleston SC. I live 20 miles away.the paper is a fish wrapper.

[@SDGLFDNC]

Same thing with the Charlotte Disturber.

[@livermush]

Same with Rock Hill Herald

[@SDGLFDNC]

@@livermush Nice to “run into” someone from the area. I live in Midland and used to run zipline tours for Camp Canaan. Rock Hill has definitely made the town nice. I’m not surprised to hear about the Herald though.

[@UncleSam-7.62]

It is in the Nature of Americans to sue. Some of us Americans are always looking for "Free Stuff" from off the backs of others. This is exactly how the US Government works. 💔😞🇺🇲

[@edjett2631]

Actually I think it is "learned behavior" rather than "in our nature".

[@9877joseph]

this is a cash grab.

[@SuperMarshall2009]

Lawsuits go the way of Who has the money to take, not necessarily who is responsible.

[@stan3070]

Let's buy as much as we can off them support them

[@2aEdu]

Yes, that is why I suggested going to my Locals and Myriad. I post lots of stuff from them.

[@nabcunion]

I built several PSA rifles and will build many more. PSA is the real deal.

[@timothyavendt677]

​@nabcunion Always been curious on their firearms

[@walkercustoms]

Things like this are happening more and more and will keep increasing until people say enough is enough which is extremely hard in a nation so divided as we are.

[@sjb3460]

In case you don't know, the Feds have given the go-ahead to Mexico to sue gun manufacturers for the crime in Mexico.

[@Rdctd6969]

@@walkercustoms you don't even know who is dividing you.

[@46bovine]

@@Rdctd6969O.K. who is dividing us, dude?

[@rba5567]

@@46bovine mainstream media for one. Social media number 2. Big Tech number 3. It's no secret that Google limits/screens the type of info of any given search.

[@walkercustoms]

Got a couple winners here

[@AntiFederalist58]

It sounds like an ambulance chaser needs to take a ride in an ambulance -- a reporter too.

[@TooManyChoices1]

He lacks standing … He can sue the guys that made the bad ammo 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@charlesmckinley29]

@@TooManyChoices1 standing is granted based on the judges politics.

[@stevenwagner9912]

Lawyers are the problem in most cases. Some lawyer got ahold of this guy and promised him big $$$$. Just like the Uvalde parents. Don't expect real journalism either. What did the politics of the PSA owners have to do with this? Not a damn thing.

[@Sandhill1988]

Now I'm going to have to shop their site to help support them. I have been a customer of PSA since their beginnings.

[@timothyavendt677]

Ditto!

[@coupe50h]

Same

[@evilzarmy1]

Cases like this are regularly thrown out and this will as well

[@davidstuck2866]

PSA is most likely not liable for anything. it's just the way lawyers file suit. if you tripped on a crack of the sidewalk in front of your neighbors home. the lawyer would name your neighbor, the city for not maintaining the sidewalk, the company that poured the sidewalk, the cement manufacturer, right down to where the stone was purchased from. the more people named, the larger the money pool, and the easier it is to settle out of court because many times, it's less expensive to just throw money into the pool, than it is to hire lawyers to fight. it's total B.S., but it is the way the system works.

[@Thomas-s2s6h]

Typical lawyer tactic, throw everything at the wall and see what sticks.

[@WilliamCollins-sh6lm]

Sounds like faulty ammo not a defective weapon !!! And a greedy lawyer !!!

[@dananorth895]

Smells like incompetence and optimism!

[@txoilfield]

I had a round of Portugeuse surplus 7.62x51 ammo explode in a FAL magazine. I didn't sue anyone, Imagine!

[@tman8939]

Attorneys cast a wide net in lawsuits. The law firms will let the legal system eliminate a defendant. It is all about the money not the injury to plaintiff.

[@mckenzieb92]

Sounds like the guy is just going after everyone to see if anything will stick

[@46bovine]

I have done business with PSA for several years and they have been an excellent firm to deal with. I hope they are not liable in this suit. You know that ambulance chaser attorneys sue everyone to get a quick settlement. Jerk attorneys.

[@edwardzamorski3711]

Everybody is corrupt looking for a payday and I'm sick of it. This will drive prices higher and higher.

[@SDGLFDNC]

Yeah, I’m having a hard time feeling sorry for the plaintiff. These lawsuits are insane.

[@paulschmidt1247]

This is pretty typical, I use to work in property management of condominium associations anytime there is a construction defect lawsuit for any issue every subcontractor would get named in the lawsuit. For instance if there was a roofing issue they would include, plumbing contractors, electrical contractors, painters ect, they are just looking for the deepest pockets.

[@cdpc211]

I am gonna sue PSA because I can't hit my stupid target.

[@2aEdu]

LOL

[@lonewolf9390]

I know a great law firm for that. Dewy, Cheatum & Howe.

[@jjmckay6man1]

@@lonewolf9390 ah the 3 stooges attorney. I hear they represent that guy running for congress Hammand Egger.

[@SDGLFDNC]

@@lonewolf9390 funny story about them. I go to a church that is fairly large and has a large number of older people. At our evening service the pastor used that reference. I was one of the few who got it. It was so awkward that I had to go tell him I got the joke.

[@nabcunion]

Get good scrub

[@michaelbartow1546]

This is just a all around blame game. This is typical of lawyers. They will say something to the sucker I mean victim that says we will go after the perpetrators be it the maker, seller and anyone in between to see what sticks to get a payday.

[@TheRealTeflonRon]

We The People stand with PSA

[@cheesemouse7774]

Lacks standing.

[@joeg5414]

I was half expecting it to be the "Uvalde victim families" finding someone else to sue

[@2aEdu]

Actually me too.

[@paulhutton8462]

One would think it’s a ammunition problem

[@2aEdu]

That is my first guess.

[@joshrandall3632]

PSA, RIA and Tactical Shit need to countersue for legal fees and defamation. I'm going to go to each of these and buy something today.

[@shaunzimmerman661]

Daniel defense for Uvalde. Its getting stupid

[@josephpacchetti5997]

👍

[@CSLV72]

@ShaunZimmerman668 Yup. josh koskoff is the pos attorney that sued Remington and won. He is gonna stick it to Activision and Daniel Defense because he set a precedent on his Remington lawsuit.

[@carlosanderson6725]

This is wild

[@michaelp8012]

And don't forget to sue the grocery store that provided all the food for the factory workers. Without that food they could not have lived nor went to work that day. Oh and if they have city water let's sue the city. You cannot live without water. And sue the gas stations because there's no way they could get to work without some kind of fuel. Where does it stop?

[@saxmusicmail]

Back in the mid '70's a young man was flying a control line model airplane on a property he was told not to fly on as it was unsafe due to overhead power lines. He did a wingover, hit the power lines, and was zapped. The family sued everybody even remotely related, the manufacturer of the control line handle, the control lines, the model airplane kit, the model engine, wheels, the fuel tank. There was some generic hardware they could not prove who made it so those suppliers didn't get sued, but everyone remotely connected was sued. That's how they do it. Doesn't matter than none of them made the young man fly there, doing something clearly unsafe, but sue anyway.

[@johnknouse8846]

Someone throwing a bunch of shit at the wall, hoping someone will pay a settlement, rather than go to court. I wonder why people hate lawyers!

[@miscprojects9662]

Pretty normal to name everybody in a lawsuit and then the various defendants will file motions to be dismissed as unaffected parties

[@Steamrunner]

Blackwater Worldwide came into existence as an online retailer in 2019. They are based out of Concord, North Carolina, with a Type 7 and Type 8 FFL. Their website does have house branded 9mm listed as Made in America. The recalled ammo is listed as "Poly Wrapped Steel Sabot Slug" and the conical shaped nose of the ammo is perfectly primer sized and a couple pictures show it sticking up a little bit above the hull. Google shows the ammo was sold through different retailers, including Optics Planet. I cannot find an image showing where it was made, but one of the shotshells shows 22,5 gr on it, which implies overseas manufacturing. In America, we would have used 22.5, not put a comma there like many overseas countries do where shotgun ammo is produced. Long-winded rambling aside, this falls on Blackwater Worldwide and whoever made the ammo (since I believe it was made overseas and imported), nobody else. The pictures I am seeing would have had the same risk in any tubular magazine shotgun. It's the same reason one does not see hard, pointed nosed 30-30 or 45-70 ammo. They are primarily made for tubular magazines too. I can only hope PSA and RIA get to recoup attorney fees in that part of the frivolous lawsuit.

[@garypascucci5797]

Greedy, evil bastards. Everyone knows it is not allowed under PLCAA. The case should be immediately dismissed. Period. "The love of money is the root of all evil". I read that somewhere...

[@2aEdu]

The Bible has much wisdom.

[@Rdctd6969]

It was written by jews named Goldman lmfao.

[@chicorodriguez3964]

Obviously the ammo manufacturer is to blame people are so helpless petty and greedy these days

[@gregreymcdaniel8694]

Typically when injuries are involved, lawyers for a plaintiff will name every entity that has even a small involvement. PSA shotgun or the seller of the shotgun has a small involvement. Typically if the judge is following the legal standards, that judge will dismiss the case against any entity that is deemed not to have been a part of the reason the accident occurred.

[@christopherbishop4927]

It clearly had nothing to do with PSA nor RIA, liability remains solely on the ammunition manufacturer

[@larryschmidt3594]

This is typical of people sueing anyone and everyone for some free money. It appears this person never sent his ammo back on recall and now wants everyone to pay him for his fault. Things are recalled for a reason, if this happened before the recall the only people liable are the ammo manufacturers.

[@donaldbuchler6544]

It's unfortunate that the gentleman was injured but there's no reason for him to sue everybody under the Sun sue the ammunition manufacturer not the outstanding company that what oh yeah just sold them the shotgun

[@2aEdu]

I hear you!

[@earlrissel4454]

As a business owner and has been involved in a lawsuit victims attorneys always use a shotgun lawsuit. Everyone that has ANY ties to the product will get a notice from the court and will be included.

[@ballhead3294]

Obviously the ammo is to blame . They alone should be held responsible. No one else

[@JimVaught-qm6gf]

Still doesn’t make sense that he racks the slide and everything in the magazine tube blows up. Sounds more like dummy or foreign object issues

[@joelrankin]

PSA has nothing to do with it. Go after the ammo company. My guess is that it was cheap ammo.

[@davidbenderman3134]

Quit buy this off brand name ammo . And quit buying these cheap made and sold weapons. This is exactly why you never buy this kind of crap.

[@donpacker4803]

Ambulance chasers are the worst, first off the guy knew what he was doing, second off someone needs to examine the rest of the ammo in that box .

[@scottrosenthal517]

I am pretty sure the RIA shotguns are made in Turkey. I have never heard of the brand of ammo the man was using. I live in AZ. I just heard about this not too long ago.

[@theoutdoorslifetv3200]

He has a legit claim against the ammo manufacturer. That's it.

[@JimVaught-qm6gf]

Yeah the one nobody heard of, gotta throw a bigger lump of 💩 at the wall and see if it sticks

[@theoutdoorslifetv3200]

@@JimVaught-qm6gf lawyers are gonna threaten to sue everyone. But the only one that has any traction is the ammo maker. The vendor if he knew the stuff had a history.

[@erroneous6947]

Don’t buy trash ammo. Easy to fix.

[@johnfarrar7448]

PSA should not be held accountable in any way.

[@Bshiddy]

The ammo went off because he doesn't know what he's doing.

[@TUKByV1]

Permanent hearing damage? Did the ammo box yank his earpro off just before he fired?

[@2aEdu]

Not sure....or he wasn't wearing any at that moment.

[@Jason_556]

@@2aEdusound like a bogus lawsuit. This guy needs to be sued!

[@txgunguy2766]

This sounds like an issue with the ammo, not the firearm. He should only be suing the company that made the ammo. That's what exploded.

[@OCCULTPREPPER78]

My opinion the only successful suing cases that should be allowed into courts is against the food companies owned by tobacco and chemical companies like Monsanto. Think it over people

[@jamespilbeam209]

Sounds like a squib load blew up the firearm. Everyone always jumps to the conclusion that it's the ammo. More than likely not. Of course, it could be the reloaded cartridges were too hot, but then he'd have to share blame. Oh boy, we don't want to do that!!😮

[@waynehuff8723]

Stand your ground guys!!!

[@jeffhays1968]

Sue everyone and see what sticks.

[@stilleto1956]

So, one of my first guns was a Winchester model 12. I could hold the trigger and pump the action, which would fire the gun as long as I held the trigger. I wonder if he accidentally held the trigger down while chambering the shell causing the gun to fire?

[@paulzumbo]

Sounds like Bull.

[@scottekelberry9595]

Funny how you tube adds extra and extra long commercials to stuff they don't want me to see

[@Americanpirate1776]

It sound like that reporter need to get sued for defamation. Defamation refers to the act of making false statements about another person that damages their reputation or causes them to be held in lower esteem by the public. When a reporter makes an outlandish or false statement with the intent of swaying public opinion against someone, that would be considered defamation. The key elements of defamation are: 1. A false statement of fact about another person 2. Publication or communication of that statement to a third party 3. Fault (at least negligence) on the part of the publisher 4. Harm to the subject's reputation If a reporter knowingly or recklessly publishes false, damaging information about someone, with the goal of turning public opinion against them, that would likely constitute actionable defamation under the law. The person defamed would have grounds to sue the reporter and their news organization for damages.

[@MaxWray111]

It's the assault weapon method of lawfare, i.e., spray and pray. Sue everyone remotely connected until someone agrees to settle.

[@johnq.public5911]

WOW! When you pull the trigger, One expects the ammo to go BANG! SO! Did the individual have his finger on the trigger when he functioned the action to insert a round into the chamber?

[@nabcunion]

Psa is a great company

[@2aEdu]

I agree!

[@johnq.public5911]

I have NEVER had any problems with Ammunition which I have bought from Rock Island Armory!

[@2awarrior]

I almost wanna say that it sounds like he was holding the trigger when racking or something to that nature…almost

[@lonewolf9390]

Almost? I'd bet $100 that's exactly what the dumbass did.

[@floydhawk2169]

Which you can safely do with some model shotguns, Winchester model 1897 for example, and some modern ones also.

[@rimrock53]

Sue everyone and sort liability out later.

[@SouthernShodan]

"Suddenly and violently exploded". We talking about ammo or diarrhea?

[@jjmckay6man1]

probably both lmao!

[@SDGLFDNC]

@@jjmckay6man1that would be my response.

[@patriot6350]

@@SouthernShodan ED is not a laughing matter😮 it's a shytty mess 💩 Side note told my doctor I had ED left him babble on about morning wood then I said WTH Doc I have explosive diarrhea 😂😂

[@patrickkem689]

The lawsuit sounds frivolous for PSA it’s like blaming a knife when it’s the person doing the harm? First ammo? Was it a bunch hot loads,,,was it made per black market/reputable dealer? Did the explosion happen Instantly? Or was it after a period of time? News paper sounds very woke!

[@delbertcast3543]

Frivolous lawsuits are illegal and should be counter sued 2 x full !

[@marcopolo363]

Trigger Discipline!

[@jeffrichards3450]

Exactly.

[@marcopolo363]

@@jeffrichards3450 I am not a shotgun expert! But this lawsuit seems way off!

[@jerrychance2791]

PSA and rock island armory is not liable for this ..the ammo manufacturer is

[@stevetech5150]

the idiot probably had his finger on the trigger when he racked it but we live in a society that takes no responsibility or accountability for its actions. its always someone else' fault in America.

[@jimc3708]

PSA did not load the ammo for him or reload it, so they are not liable. The ammo mfgr is the only possible liable person, if the firearm was functioning correctly. The only reason I do business with PSA is because of thier conservative stance, the Newspaper reporter can KMA!!!

[@rba5567]

Sounds like the ammo may have had the primer sticking too far out.

[@AdamLassiter-nf5fw]

Please keep us in the know 🙏

[@chriswood9836]

Sure sounds like the ammo was liable in this case not PSA it sure sounds like the zsr saga not too long ago

[@2aEdu]

Could be the case. No way PSA did anything wrong in my opinion. What happened with ZSR ammo? I have shot a lot of their 9mm with no issues.

[@Soli_Deo_Gloria_.]

​ZSR 308 ammunition was blowning up, initially reported by a guy that had a new unfired Springfield Socom 16 and around the 15th round the gun blew up... He had it all captured on video.... Many more came forth reporting the same... @@2aEdu

[@chriswood9836]

@@2aEdu galactic force media channel had reported last year that zsr ammo had blown up multiple rifles I believe in 308 the ammo was loaded way to hot from the factory and from what I seen they weren't to forthcoming on fixing the issue

[@2aEdu]

@@chriswood9836 I will look into that.

[@H.R.6688]

You mean he didn't also sue the paper company that made the paper for tge receipt?

[@sjb3460]

post the link, that way we can read it at our liesure.

[@josephpacchetti5997]

That is interesting, I've not had any PSA tools or R.I but I have a friend that has a R.I.1911 and hasn't had any issues with, I think he may have some PSA stuff too😂 Thanks 2-A, I hope you and your family are doing well! 👍🇺🇸

[@2aEdu]

LOL. I hope you and your family are good as well!

[@angelglodo]

Operator error is not covered by warranty.

[@JamesHarris-l7c]

They had Trump there now they got to punish them

[@SilenceDoGood4th]

This is easy to figure out, its not the re-sellers fault, its the manufacturers fault. are judges that braindead to try something like this? any judge who pushes this should be removed for not having a functioning brain. these are manufacturers issues, noth8ing to do with PSA. PSA should be counter suing

[@oubliette862]

I buy stuff from palmetto regularly, that sucks there being sued. I've never had any issues with their stuff worth mentioning. Same for ria.

[@scottwilliams2952]

I only hear BS from this lawsuit :)

[@El69Fuego]

Doubt this will make it to court. There’s no way for the guy to prove he didn’t alter/misuse the gun or ammo

[@kevinblair5708]

The type of Rock Island Armory shotgun was it? I have a VR-60, and I am very concerned about what shotgun was involved. Although without knowing the details it sounds like either faulty ammunition or operator miss handling of the weapon or both.

[@farklestaxbaum4945]

Some quick googling of Blackwater Worldwide shows that they sold a 12ga slug with a semi-pointed tip which appears to stick out beyond the front of the shell slightly which could probably detonate a primer of a shell in front of it.

[@aaronlindsay5641]

I’m sure the owners manual has warnings about possible explosions.

[@altucker3645]

We have Laws against this shit .Charge ANY N ALL DA'S N JUDGES involved with TREASON !!!!!

[@calvinjones1365]

There is no true lawsuit but what the lawyers are hoping for is a settlement out of court. Sadly to say psa has been known in the past for an extream volume of QC issues that will come up in court in other words to avoid embarrassment an things the public may not be aware of concerning psa they may settle big corporations do it all the time

[@chrislang5659]

Id like to see the "injuries" and "damages"

[@jimzielinski946]

There is a reason ladders are covered with warning stickers.