Duggar Family Deep Dive (Chapter 2)

[@pallasovidius3015]

On Umberto talking about Bluey... I'm convinced this is actually a show about positive parenting disguised as a kid show.

[@Thewrywriterjmg]

I was homeschooled from 6th grade on and loved it. It gave me the option to travel all over the world, take my schoolwork with me, and spend a lot of time doing extra curricular activities that I enjoyed. It makes me sad so many people think of homeschoolers as a stereotype or under socialized. For me it gave me way more freedom and higher education (with options to take early college courses) than traditional school.

[@paolamori31]

Bluey is amazing!!!! It has made me cry multiple times, my nieces had me watch it with them and I cannot stop!!!

[@juleslynn476]

I related SO much to him talking about how the Duggars are not only not wholesome but actually triggering!!

[@ashleyclouthier8812]

Bluey is the most fabulous show, for the whole family, that I have ever seen. It is so incredibly well written, deep and thoughtful messages but still fun, funny and entertaining. The parenting is so aspirational.

[@annieoakley8949]

I am TOTALLY with you on the mom's voice...can't deal with it!!

[@DanielleMarieW]

“It’s soothing to watch a bunch of blonde white kids do their blonde white thing.” Hilarious. True! Kind of a Brady Bunch vibe to that.

[@BekaB85]

For me homeschooling was extremely isolating, I just sat in my room by myself all day. When I was around 23 I got the biggest compliment of my life. A coworker found out I was homeschooled and was shocked. She said that she could not believe I was one of those weird home school kids, she never would have guessed. That kinda sounds insulting but I felt I was so awkward and weird that it was written all over me so to hear other wise didn't just make my day it made my life.

[@venusindior2787]

I could have written this comment myself! Touche! Couldnt get away from the isolating world of religious homeschooling fast enough.. was longing to integrate into society like everyone else!

[@BekaB85]

@@venusindior2787 Yes absolutely!!! I should probably emphasize that my experience was religious too because without that factor it would have been Soo different and probably not as isolating. It sounds like you can relate to that very well.

[@alexfraze12087]

Imo it's very easy to be raised sheltered and to want to keep a small bubble as a result is very normal

[@BekaB85]

@@alexfraze12087 You are definitely right. I struggled BAD in college so I joined the military. I had bad experiences there and for the last ten years I associate with my wife and that is it. We are our own bubble and stay to ourselves.

[@scz798]

If it makes you feel better I've met some amazing people that have also been homeschooled. Honestly nobody walks around trying to identify who's been homeschooled and who hasn't.

[@LorraineVirginie]

I’m an atheist who was very into watching the Duggars’ show when it was airing, somewhat out of curiosity but I also enjoyed the wholesomeness to a degree. Watching it now that I’ve gone to therapy and learned a lot more about human psychology, so many of the issues are so obvious, but I think to many people who aren’t aware of those things it just seems sweet and light hearted. When you understand that perfect children are usually suppressed children, it’s so easy to see at least generally what’s going on.

[@x1985]

Same exact experience here. It's both heartbreaking and a little refreshing to find out that things weren't all what they seemed. (not the abuse part obviously, just the fact that they aren't perfect after all. because they are human lol) I truly feel for all of the kids, and hope at least some of them follow in Jill's footsteps & break away from the cult.

[@alessandrastachowiak5294]

I'm with Berto. I watched this show like it was a train wreck. It was horrifying but I couldn't look away. The thought of not going to school, not being able to do what I want with my body as a woman, not being able to date without a chaperone terrified me.

[@SamM32727]

It’s absolutely soothing to watch “wholesome” content. I love watching some family KZbinrs for that reason. Even though a lot of their content is just logistics or ideas for other parents, as someone who is not a parent I like watching it and just seeing happy kids being taken care of and hearing the parents speak about their kids in a loving and thoughtful way.

[@eloiselogue]

terrace house: opening new doors is 10/10 the wholesome japanese reality content i didn't know i needed.

[@rigirl]

I laughed when you talked about “what if they named their first kid with a name starting with Z” because my great-grandfather created a “rule” and named all his kids starting with Z and my grandfather continued and named my father Zoliah. Thank goodness, my father decided not to follow family tradition and gave all his kids very common names. 🤣🤣🤣

[@krystalized06]

The Bear is an awesome show for the record. I've been a chef for 5 years and it's a very accurate portrayal of that lifestyle.

[@andedom]

That lost about Truck nuts is hilarious. I live in Texas and see these odd things all the time. I’ll have to tell my friends that joke l.

[@PsychologyInSeattle]

Ha!

[@ninette6063]

Korean dramas (k dramas) aren’t popular just because they’re wholesome - they also have a slower pace, are usually character driven and often these days written from a female perspective. They are in my opinion nothing like the 80s American sitcoms, but I can see how they might look like that on the surface. I got sucked into the hallyu wave (the Korean influence on pop culture) because of my boomer parents, and now the whole family is hooked on k dramas and eat kimchi and bibimbap all year round! We used to mainly watch American shows, but now it’s Korean most of the time (we live in Finland).

[@MurderMuffinRawr]

I'm a K Drama addict! I didn't realize how female-centric the shows are until you mentioned it just now.

[@Dahlily]

A female centric show? Hmm, might have to try them!!

[@PsychologyInSeattle]

Oh, interesting!

[@hugomarquez3189]

My first experience in the US was with people like the Duggars, talk about culture shock. I was an exchange student and they were my assigned host family, a family with 8 kids. They were all homeschooled except for the youngest ones. I didn’t last long with them, I asked one too many questions in Sunday school about the Bible. They are wonderful people tho, I still keep contact with a few of them, but I was in for a shock. One of the first questions I was asked by one of the kids was whether I listened to secular music. Father was an ex pastor. They were not always super conservative, that kinda came with the step mom, and even then not to the extent of the Duggars, but I totally get their culture. I didn’t watch the Duggars, but I sure lived it.

[@Laceylunai]

Berto clocking the voice!!!! Yes!! It’s so cultish!!

[@Chlobotomy]

I am atheist raised atheist and I LOVED the duggars and wanted to be quiverful even though I’m not religious. Their order and “wholesomeness” was really appealing to me

[@sarahyarmuth267]

i can’t wait to watch the full versions of these! i asked for a subscription to your channel for my birthday this year 🥳

[@ShaunaOutsideSeoul]

I hope you get it! I was a patreon for a long time until I got locked out of my account and there is so much content for the money it’s 10/10 worth it

[@Nettiebae]

I am stoked for this series.

[@whtyc]

I think most people hate-watch these type of shows. They’re the new iteration of the freak show

[@DaniNouveauWitch]

100%. See = My 600lb Life, Hoarders, Intervention. Watching those with an open, sympathetic heart is soul-crushing.

[@sleepygirlofficial]

I would love to see Dr. Honda go into Bluey bc that show has had me bawling on more than one occasion 😭

[@ApoloniaJones1976]

The way they explain the J names in the show is that they liked the names Josh, Jana, and John-David. They named everyone from Jill on down with Js because they didn’t know how many kids they were going to have they didn’t want just one kid not to match the rest.

[@aprilgeewhiz3814]

My 85 year old dad has been binge watching Sex Education and loves it!! My mom loved Korean soaps…

[@twocats2many]

I love that you guys left Twitter!

[@Iudicatio]

I also hate how people are portrayed in 90 day fiance. It does a disservice to both the American person and the foreign person. It reinforces the stereotype that all foreign people are only interested in Americans to get documents or money and only Americans who are stupid/desperate/naive enough to fall for it date non Americans. I remember a marriage counselor from my religion saying that couples from the same culture have fewer cultural problems, but that does not equate to fewer problems total by any means. And that you can resolve most of them by asking questions with an open mind and openly explaining things to the other person. This has mostly been my experience with my partner from another country. I have even understood some things that he does better through reading books about the culture. There is not an inherent problem with intercultural marriages. The problem is that often one or both people are unwilling to research and adjust, even though they deliberately chose someone from a very different culture. But the show tries to ignore that because they want to avoid politics. I do know people in real life whose relationships played out in a similar fashion to 90 day fiance. I just wish that they sometimes showed wholesome couples who manage to productively communicate through the problems and who genuinely love each other. Because I know people like that too.

[@miss1of2]

My mom started reading Harry Potter to me as a bedtime story when I was around 5 or 6 and I was 11 when the first movie came out. I saw all of them in the cinema on the first weekend they were out. I've read the books on my own 5 or 6 times. (At some point I would finish the 7th and go straight back to the first) I loved JKR... I was so disappointed when she started spewing hate towards trans people...

[@limner123]

The reason Bluey and Blue’s Clues are both cartoons about “blue” dogs named Blue is because there is a coat color referred to as blue. Bluey is a narrative driven cartoon, while Blue’s Clues is a puzzle driven interactive show, so I think that’s the only link.

[@bananawammabama]

I agree there isn't really a link but I think Blue in Blue's Clues was more because they were trying to teach young children about colours i.e. there's another dog named Magenta. For Bluey it sounds right that it's more about the fact that it's about a "blue coated" dog like an Aussie Shepherd/ blue heeler.

[@bananawammabama]

Wow I almost can't compute that you were 30 when HP came out. I was 8 when Harry Potter came out and I was obsessed. However, I WAS able to disconnect from it when I got older, around in my 20s... my affection for the novels still exists however I really think the main reason I loved it so much was because that's the time I learned I loved reading in general, not just reading HP.

[@Authentistic-ism]

I understand the need for wholesome alternatives on demand for entertainment because of how darkly saturated our media is. I love things like Black Mirror and horror/gore but I've finally discovered that I can't sleep if I watch too much of it. What with the hollywood strike, more people are turning to new sources for entertainmen and finding that the wholesomeness is a balancing and appealing option. I personally use livestreams of animal shelters or zoo caretaker feeds and follow channels of people who just document their pet's life. I will specifically turn to that stuff when I notice myself getting sarcastic and numb to the dark stuff again.

[@cjgroom109]

Me too! I’m so sensitive to negative content, and i have many safe/comfort shows that only make me laugh and barely ever make me emotional, like Archer

[@DaniNouveauWitch]

​@@cjgroom109Archer is iconic! The best spy trope parody out there.

[@BekaB85]

For some reason when you mentioned that 90d fiance doesnt go into politics my mind went to a very particular scene where Angela gave Michael Donald Trump boxers.... Uughh yuck... I wish they had left that out. Lol

[@beckyreed9763]

I never heard of the Duggars until the whole thing with Josh built up. Honestly I don't see how people think the show looks wholesome, seeing big families like that causes my anxiety to go up.

[@maggiepaul1225]

For the Brady Bunch - Jan and Peter, the middle children. As a middle child myself, I am in solid solidarity with Jan and Peter - middle kids, UNITE!! LOL

[@tracimcmurray5244]

I watched )However Many) Kids and Counting when it was originally airing and I believe Michelle (the mom) explained all their kids names begin with 'J' because Jim Bob's (the dad) name begins with J.

[@corrinakudla8591]

My husband's grandfather (William) had four or five sons, and named them ALL William. Only the oldest goes by William, all the others go by their middle names. It's baffling to me, but if they had gone with Q names, that doesn't need to stop them!! Just repeat lol

[@whiskybrush3219]

I dont know why but i get soooo triggered by naming traditions where the son is given the father's name. It was a thing in my husband's family. All the oldest firstborn males bear their father's name (including my oldest). I broke tradition though and gave my son a middle name (which was against the rules) and that is what he goes by. I absolutely refused to call out the same name two or three times in one house. So tacky 😝

[@ElevenBird]

J names After Jim Bob I* think its a patriarchal thing

[@alyssakennedy2250]

Yeah that’s what I thought as well

[@tracythomas343]

It absolutely is because of Jim Bob. Josh & Anna went with M’s because of Michelle.

[@cathynuytten798]

@@tracythomas343. I didn’t know that.

[@devonmetzger]

I can’t believe your friend had a dog named Rommel! 😂 I also have a cat named Rommel, however, I did not name him. My family adopted him at three years old and the previous owner named him Rommel. When deciding whether or not it was ethical to keep the name, I looked up the history of the human Rommel. He was actually executed for an assassination attempt against Adolf Hitler.

[@whtyc]

The Bear! Yes! What a good idea for you to watch and comment on the dynamics at play.

[@myrawest]

Bluey is the best show ever.

[@tinylvis]

By the way... I live in the same area where the Duggars live. It is not rural Arkansas. They live in Tontitown (next to Springdale), Arkansas. The United States Census Bureau-defined Fayetteville-Springdale-Rogers Metropolitan Statistical Area includes 3,213.01 square miles (8,321.7 km2) and 576,403 residents (as of 2022),[2] ranking NWA as the 100th most-populous metropolitan statistical area in the U.S. and the 13th fastest growing in the United States.

[@conniegarvie]

Please remember that these people are fringe Christians at best. They are fundamental Christians, which is a huge distortion of Christianity. The US has huge numbers of non - fundamentalist Christians like myself. I am a liberal Lutheran from Edmonds and now live in Everett, Washington. I don't want to be confused with the fundamentalist Christians!

[@synesthesia7511]

The only reason I would watch their show would be sheer morbid curiosity… like hoarders.

[@emmahathaway-vf6ml]

I think that I don't think it's often explored or talked about with the families that have a shit ton of kids like that. Is possible breeding fetishes are involved. It's just past the point of what is not only sustainable in a family but normal. Yes, I'm sure there is a religious aspect to it of course. But it really does full suit with a breeding fetish.

[@Mama_Bear524]

This 💯.

[@kaleanaking5292]

I don't know if anyone has said it, but if I remember correctly all the names start with J because of Jim-Bob.

[@skn315]

The J names started with just names they liked. Then when they had so many, they felt that if they named one differently, what if that is their last child and that child is isolated from their siblings from the tradition, so they continued

[@Ummulata]

I was homeschooled nearly all my life through the 90s and early aughts-as a Christian then and now, it’s still pretty maddening to see kids who were educated this way painted as automatons or legalistic hermits with no social skills or ability to think independently. The kids I knew were pretty brilliant; pursued all manner of degrees, cool careers, and had a wide range of beliefs. The Duggar documentary fell way short of offering a nuanced view of Christians who choose an alternate route to public/private school, but that wouldn’t fit the filmmaker’s narrative. But for the record, I grew up watching their show and thought they were extreme and not representative of my lived experience at all, even as a kid.

[@jennifernix4889]

The name of the father is Jim Bob. The religion is patriarchal. Of course, all the children have J names based on Jim Bob

[@wts7273]

Hey, love your content and both of you guys just as people. Just wanted to let you know that the way you’re advertising your patreon is a little off-putting. Telling us this is just the free portion of the content. To say it at the beginning of the video, almost sets it off on a bad note like “oh this video is only going to be a snippet of content and I’m not gonna get the whole thing” and makes me feel like a “less than” viewer if I’m not paying you for extra content. Of course you want to reward your patreon viewers but you can say all that on your paid content to make them feel good instead of saying it so much on your regular videos. Most people could simply say it at the end of the video and say “please feel free to join us over on patreon where we will discuss this further and go into a deep dive I would love to see you over there and join that community” instead of putting a dollar value on your time and telling us over and over how much time you have to sacrifice to make this content. It makes it seem like you don’t want to do it and it’s a burden for you. Just thought I’d let you know it left a bit of a bad taste in my mouth the last couple of times I’ve watched. I truly love all of your content though and have learned so much from you. So thank you.

[@rhondasavage8590]

I’m also a big fan, but this felt strange to me. The first half hour is all over the place and then they get into the topic. It feels like it’s a way to get others to join Patreon. I’m sure this is not their intentions, it’s just coming off that way.

[@wts7273]

@@rhondasavage8590 I totally agree and am glad I’m not the only one!

[@spiderinacup1543]

The channel gives a tremendous amount of quality content that requires no membership. If you're interested enough in a topic or feel compelled to support them, it is an option.

[@wts7273]

@@spiderinacup1543 yes that would be a perfect thing for them to say instead of what they’re currently saying!

[@spiderinacup1543]

@@wts7273 True, but Dr. Kirk has explained that so, so many times on so many videos/podcasts. Maybe they could have explained better in this particular video since it is likely a more popular subject.

[@AngryGerbil]

There is absolutely no relation between Bluey and Blues Clues. Bluey is an Australian production and I’m sure they’ve never heard of Blues Clues. Bluey is about a family of Blue Heelers. One of their daughters is named Bluey.

[@karyanb]

Too much tangents not nearly enough Duggar I can get better deep dives from other YT creators who aren’t even in psychology. Hope more is coming 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@Mama_Bear524]

If you’re a member I think they’re more on point.

[@Authentistic-ism]

i checked and there do exist rainbow Truck Nutz. I'd die to see one on the road. People sport truck nutz all over where I live (rural Missouri) and sometimes little penis shaped tire valve stemp caps.

[@44nk96]

I watched the Duggers out of morbid fascination.

[@jennifercave-np4ow]

Q for Qbert. 😂

[@devochkadee]

Quark from star trek 😅 don’t forget Quark!

[@PsychologyInSeattle]

I love Quark!

[@PsychologyInSeattle]

Also, Q-Tip!

[@nosmallo]

I had the misfortune of having a fling with someone who went on the first series of Married at First Sight UK. Let's just say he was well known for being shitty to women and it was no wonder that his bride ditched him before she got to the altar. Schadenfreude has never been so sweet!

[@HK-wv4hr]

So basically, the non-patrons only get to hear the tangents? I wish you’d just do these only the patrons because it feels like a bait and switch. I just spent 38 minutes for about 5 minutes of title related content.

[@tarynmichelleart]

To the comment about not being on twitter anymore I feel like you could say the same thing about uploading on KZbin. All of those big companies are terrible.

[@InMyOwnLC]

I find it interesting you are saying this show was watched because it was wholesome. I watched it religiously back when it was airing, but I did not view as wholesome. I was watching them as a train wreck/ can you believe these people? sort of way.

[@Mama_Bear524]

Re: twitter I finally left when he changed it to x. That was my last straw. I was already halfway out the door.

[@s.melonita4454]

If you guys watch the bear I'll be ECSTATIC

[@ElevenBird]

There is a big family followed by the BBC who are more atheistic and its the polar opposite of the Duggars

[@mathhomeworkhelp6063]

Oh man, I adore K Dramas

[@Marndarrr]

That testicle truck had a trans mission. 👍

[@tvtvtfan3767]

I never use Twitter and I never got it. I never knew how to navigate Twitter. I don’t like the format or design of Twitter. I don’t dislike Elon Musk. I don’t use Twitter because I never did.

[@kathleencaroline8032]

I thought they chose ‘J’ because of Jim Bob.

[@mistisimpson5504]

The “J” names are to honor Jim-Bob

[@FlyInTheLotion]

Do a "Psychology of Elon Musk" sometime! Love you guys! ❤

[@kristindewey2400]

BLUEY!!!!!!! 🤩😍

[@tamicoil7069]

There are so many rangents you guys go on, it's hard to follow. You spend so much time on these tangents that ai start ro think "what does.this haveto do with the Duggars?" Hppefilly, further chapters woll focus mostly on them andnpt these disteacting tangents.

[@SpicyPlur]

How are we an hour into the serious and still not deep into the situation around Josh? Instead talking Seattle politics and Brady Bunch 🤨

[@michelleholtzapfel8918]

Your politics are showing