(Pt 5) EcoBoost From HELL (ANOTHER NEW CODE?? P0012-VVT Christmas 2024)

[@mrfishbulb7187]

Ivan you missed an opportunity here, could of called this 'The 12 codes of Christmas' special.

[@mrfishbulb7187]

On the first day of Christmas Ford sent to me a Transit in a bad way. On the second day of Christmas Ford sent to me........

[@Andy_Hinners]

@@mrfishbulb7187 , , , 2 OEM sensors, and a heartburn for me

[@tam1381]

@@mrfishbulb7187 On the 3rd day in had no codes...

[@John-wz3iu]

Third day of Christmas "Ivan left it in town with the keys in it"...😃😃

[@ironcross420]

Screwge Mobile

[@glennjackson9325]

people who think diagnosing these modern cars is easy should watch this 5 parter!!! keep up the good work Ivan

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

@@glennjackson9325 we're only half way there 🤣

[@garyalford9394]

We need alot more Ivans ! unfortunately they are far and few between !!

[@glennjackson9325]

😅

[@fredautos]

🎄😄 merry Christmas phad​@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics

[@brianw8963]

@@glennjackson9325 Lost count of how many times I’ve heard , could you “take a look at it”, which I’ve come to take as “ I know you have nothing better to do with your time so can I just stop in your driveway and You can hook that thing up and tell me what’s wrong “. Either make arrangements to drop it off and go away until I call you, or go back to advance auto diagnostics and try again. I dont say that , but that’s what I’m thinking at the time.

[@GregSilverado]

can't wait for part # 29!

[@165old]

Ivan, I appreciate how careful you are with your customer's money. The effort you put in to be 200% sure a part is needed is highly commendable.

[@truracer20]

It's because his main business is diagnostics and he guarantees his diagnosis. If this customer only wanted diagnostics and Ivan called a part bad and the customer has another shop make the repair and Ivan was wrong, it costs Ivan money. Unlike parts cannoneers who will gladly replace every part of your car as long as you're willing to pay.

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

@@165old I have to stick to my rule of no Parts Cannon... Especially when the ammo is so expensive! 😄

[@letsfixit1594]

Patiently waiting for my pastry.

[@Andy_Hinners]

They're in Transit!

[@chrism5433]

Pastry sounds good maybe next year lol.

[@tonypaul2987]

10 thousand RPM. Wow just warming up. Lol you are the greatest

[@stevedunford7632]

Beat me to it.

[@home.or_outside]

😂

[@remogaggi82]

Formula 1 ecoboost

[@vanpunk]

This has been more suspenseful than many tv shows! 😂

[@garyalford9394]

Better viewing also ! but I can feel Ivans frustrations.

[@gpddc]

The butler did it!😂

[@steveneley991]

Wish I had ivans brain and patience I watch every video one of a kind!!

[@tonybolakowski6076]

Merry Christmas everyone. 🎄

[@Zeus-wl2pl]

Thank you my Polish friend

[@garyalford9394]

Yes we did get Trump !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@theblackhand6485]

Go home you pagan with your blanket of emotions.

[@henrikmejlgaard2088]

Since everything seems spooky, I would measure sensor outputs/inputs at the pcm and validate the readings, I see in the scanner. Could be a bad pcm, wrong pcm, bad pin fitment in the pcm connector, bad grounds etc. Normally you tend to check these things rather quickly, but in this case, you seem to be looking a lot at the scanner just wondering instead - but maybe I missed something. BTW: I love your videos!

[@greggc8088]

Demonic forces at work here. When it comes to the sugary temptations of pastries, Satan doesn't like competition. 🤣🤣

[@pootthatbak2578]

Thats it! Sugar in the gas tank😅

[@robertsmith2956]

Looks like the fix is pulling out of the driveway in front of a log truck to scare the demons out, and get a replacement van.

[@edwardtabor77]

Looks like Ivan should get several cases of pastries donated to the charity of his choice and a case to him.

[@mattbrown5511]

This van is going to go down in your diagnostic history. I know it probably sounds stupid, but maybe go front to back in that bucket checking all of the grounds for good connections? With all the different codes it keeps throwing; it is hard to pinpoint one particular thing. Merry Christmas to you and yours Ivan.

[@CedroCron]

Talk about a frustrating case... Good job keeping cool and following the data. Merry Christmas and all the best for 2025!

[@andyg5004]

Hey Ivan you keep making this interesting. The plot thickens everyday

[@brianw8963]

My wife works p/t for our local bakery, (she just got home from making bread) and the owner actually has 2 of these units. I hope I never get a request to “take a look” at either of them. This gives new meaning to CRAZY. 👍👍🇺🇸👽

Hope the pastry van owner has a lot of dough to pay for this!

[@Andy_Hinners]

Or a Sugar Daddy

[@bleebleblahble8833]

Diag time gonna total the vehicle

[@Ignaz366]

Well, he 'aint doing it for muffin!

[@JRS-iq9pz]

Maybe that is how he will pay him. Donuts and pastry stuff. LOL

[@ThisIS_Insane]

Free pastries for a year!!!

[@jdretiree2433]

As cousin Eddie says in Christmas Vacation movie: "It's the gift that keeps on giving"

[@mrfishbulb7187]

Thanks, must go rewatch that classic.

[@Andy_Hinners]

This van is from the 'Island of Misfit Toys'.

[@volvo09]

​@@mrfishbulb7187 awesome movie

[@ThisIS_Insane]

So do venereal diseases... 😂

[@kerrywitherspoon1257]

I don’t often comment love the video you share. This van throwing you more curve balls than major league pitcher

[@adamtrombino106]

This case study is quickly becoming my favorite 'special' , in all the yrs I've been watching PHAD. Wow! At this point I got nuthn else to add.

[@htownblue11]

I just commented this could be Ivan’s Magnum Opus masterpiece of all his diagnostics…..this one is my favorite too I think.

[@stephenmoxley3004]

Wow! This one is turning into an ass-kicker. But I'm confident that you'll get there, Ivan. These are great lessons for all of us, who work on modern cars. Looking forward to the next chapter.

[@KaldekBoch]

I'm going to buy a plane ticket, fly to the USA, sneak into your garage and PEEL THE SCREEN COVER OFF YOUR TABLET. 😂

[@hughjass1274]

Thank you! Lol

[@ThisIS_Insane]

Yeah! let's get that touch screen screwed up with metal shavings, oil stains and coolant! 😂😂😂

[@rogerdedrick373]

I leave mine on as screen protectors

[@gunnar1911]

Mine is still on after 2 years...

[@snidelywhiplash8923]

Dirty fingers using a touch screen appreciate a plastic screen cover.

[@JoeNeal-h6k]

Ivan..... Hey man you can't keep doing this to me..... LoL 😂😂😂. I don't know how many more episodes I can take of this EcoBoost.... Pastry delivery van from HELL!!!!!!

[@AllanT-nu4rw]

I always used to joke with the factory service reps by saying that one day a trouble shooting flow chart is going to recommend "replace vehicle with a known good one" as the solution to the problem. There is so much going wrong here randomly, so as some posters recommended, I would verify the related grounds are cleaned and retorqued because,,,, as you know, you are now searching for that ghost in the machine.

[@rodneymiddleton9624]

I think that this van is showing every problem that has ever been identified all at once. I'm thinking the purge solenoid is sticking for the enrichment for no reason which is common. This has been a "Humdinger" so far. Thanks Ivan!

[@TheVespap200e]

C'mon Ivan you cant give up now! Your into it to deep to give up now! You got this! Show that pastry van who's boss!

[@carvelwilliamson1225]

Love the honesty Ivan. We dont all get it right immediately, even when the eventual fix is simple.

[@lvsqcsl]

I am loving all of this thinking you have to do on this van, Ivan.

[@frankcarpenetti5776]

Just want to wish you and your family a very Merry Christmas & a Happy New Year Ivan. Your the BEST!! From Canada.

[@privateer0561]

Ground, Loose wire or pins. Intermittency is key. Start with the main body ground. The random nature of the codes screams ground.

[@ischmidt]

Or oil intrusion in the ECM connector, given oil has already been found in several other places around the engine harness.

[@keltecshooter]

Guess you should monitor the cams as well as the map to see if there is a pattern. Id want to verify the map is accurate .

[@kdmq]

You are doing an amazing job Ivan! Keep it up!

[@jimkillen1065]

Damn what a deal . If i ever got it running i find it a new home .

[@davidhollfelder9940]

Remember the CS&Y song, “Teach Your Children”? You, who are on the Road, must have a Code, that you can Live by”.

[@jarrodemery4631]

THIS is why I was still driving a Studebaker until recently.......points and carb....

[@Andy_Hinners]

Doctor told me to cut back on carbs, but he never quite got to the points about my overall health.

[@garyalford9394]

Love those Studes!! From South Bend Ind. we had alot of them over the years! my 1st car was stude !

[@rhysarthur7305]

I have 3 Studebakers! No computer problems for me! 😎

[@lvsqcsl]

Giving up is NOT an option, Ivan. We still have 2 days before Christmas. Is the van going to stretch over the next 2 days? Those people need their pastries. GREAT VIDEO!

[@major__kong]

Put the scanner and oscilloscope down. Do a visual inspection of harnesses and grounds. Check connectors for fitment and corrosion.

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

I need at least a DIRECTION first... And for intermittent problems DO NOT TOUCH ANYTHING until you have a good direction! 😉

[@major__kong]

@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics But what if you don't get direction from the scanner and oscilloscope because it's random caused by one of these issues? Basically this whole Part 5 is you looking at the scanner and not getting any further in your diagnosis. Are you suddenly going to be enlightened by doing yet another test drive with the scanner?

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

@@major__kong absolutely! Keep watching 😊

[@BEANS-O-MATICtransmissions]

​@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics I'm thinking, you know as well as i do ford's do weird random shit/multi codes with bad grounds etc.... Also, maybe the ecu is corrupt? Reflash? Replacement? Start with powers and grounds first tho, ecu,body, this has bit you before, js

[@BEANS-O-MATICtransmissions]

Also ! That tick/exhaust leak at the manifold will wreck upstream O2 readings as well, definitely smoke that cat/manifold for upstream leaks 👍

[@mph5896]

I had a 2015 Escape earlier in the year in which the fuel pump would stop running and set a circuit code for the fuel pump driver. One of the pins was really loose on the connector that plugged into the top of the engine fuse box.

[@Keanu-x7w]

You know why you can't give up-because Ivan's nature is to know why....even if you have to eat some of your own time on this one. You need this challenge from time to time so not to get bored.

[@nickv4073]

Time to bring in a Priest. "The power of Christ compels you! Dorman, I cast you OUT!" .

[@igotstoknow2]

Haters gotta hate Christ. Unsaved people are so sad.

[@johnclamshellsp1969]

YES!

[@j.t.johnston3048]

Computer has lost its mind. Call it the scarecrow. "If I only had a brain..."

[@windward2818]

Due to the vehicles history, lack of proper OBD II DTC coverage, and system complexity, I think you really need a known good vehicle to compare it to. Interacting systems, some of which are closed loop, are difficult to troubleshoot. A common starting point for OEM systems engineers is to first verify sensor inputs. Because this is a turbo application I would probably start with manifold absolute pressure. Basically, you take real-time data with a known good high fidelity sensor (usually at least 2x resolution as compared to the factory sensor) and compare the good sensor data with the factory sensor one-to-one using the PicoScope. It is best to first compare the raw data of the two sensors first before comparing to the Data PID as reported from the module. Once you verify the factory sensor operation you can move on to another input.

[@johnz8210]

Every small business: Court of Appeals overturns the order blocking enforcement of Beneficial Ownership Information reporting requirements. Look it up if you don't know.

[@raymondcook2146]

Merry Christmas Ivan, what about checking the grounding points for the systems. Seems like the computer can't think straight. I watch all your videos. Enjoy them all.

[@jeffmiller6100]

Please do a Review of this case study after the multi part diag is finished. Awesome diag to this point . Many rabbit holes one could go down 😂

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

@@jeffmiller6100 absolutely! 😉

[@onenikkione]

It's being haunted by the Ghosts of Past, Present, and Future. Just in time for Christmas.

[@mrfishbulb7187]

Tiny Tim the Transit.

[@CALVINLNIKONT]

Hang in there!

[@daveboscher1047]

Ivan, I still have no doubt you will sort the ghost van. P.S. Hope you and your wife have a great Christmas and good New Year.

[@Gizmo42Rodeo]

Ivan, you were correct in your first video. They circled the problem and put it on the steering wheel.

[@anthonyjones5711]

Are there any very deep lakes close to where you live?

[@zachstewart2956]

Oily harness from a bad component leaking oil into the connector wicks into the ecm

[@Michael_L_]

I hope you get this fixed in the end because every new episode I'm coming down with more anxiety and sense of hopelessness.

[@jeffvanhorn69]

Hearing the whistling in the background, sounds like a vacuum leak. Could explain negative trims too.

[@mghumphrey]

When troubleshooting an issue like this, you need to think about the common denominator. It's very unlikely all these sensors are randomly alternating between good readings and bad readings. What's do they all have in common? Here's one idea: They all connect to the ECU via wires that go through a connector. Have you checked to ensure the connector hasn't been contaminated with some non-conductive material like oil or grease?

[@BillChaney-s9g]

May be a hi pressure fuel pump leaking fuel into the engine and getting burned via the crankcase vent system. Drives the computer nuts as it does not know where the extra energy is coming from. Just a thought. I have seen this happen. Anyway, wishing you and yours a Merry Christmas.

[@SoldfMC]

I agree, saw Diagnose Dan have that issue.

[@ferrumignis]

The oil would be smelling of gas though.

[@volvo09]

​@@ferrumignisyeah he said before that the oil didn't smell like raw gas.

[@AntonBabiy]

This Christmas miracle is blowing all the other ones this year out of the water 😂

[@chadow86]

With all the weird things this van is doing, I'd be questioning the PCM and / or my scanner

[@johnz8210]

Whatever is wrong with this van, everybody watching should go to that bakery on Fat Tuesday and get their paczki donuts. Well worth the trip.

[@Usmanthemecano]

I had a mazda cx7 that would behave like this... Turned out to be the fuel rail pressure sensor... I thought for sure it was the high pressure fuel pump... The sensor wasnt sold separately, it came with the fuel rail. I ended looking up the part number on ebay and got a bosch sensor close to the specs of the original and boom! Fixed

[@johnt.848]

FORD: Found On Roadside Dumped. 😂

[@joemazzola7387]

Ivan never gives up !

[@mikechiodetti4482]

This is nutso! What happens when you tap on the PCM or ECM with a screwdriver? Does the engine stall? Was there an engine computer replacement? Tap on the sensor connectors, also the shake test with the engine wiring harness. Maybe a loose connector? What about a bad solder joint in the engine computer? Bad engine grounds? I've seen former coworkers use a spray bottle with water in it to locate damaged or cracked electrical parts.

[@pootthatbak2578]

I dont understand why ivan hasnt been doing everything you said. He went old school once, doing a check valve test with his test hose..thats all

[@mikemccoyrpt]

I don't know sht about fk, but my brain is muttering "powers and grounds"

[@krama2940]

Ivan . You are driving people crazy by not finding the issue. You are fighting with your scanner. Use the scope and find the underlying issue. You know what an engine needs to run . Check and scope the sensors and find what is not working correctly rather than fighting fuel trims all day long.

[@pootthatbak2578]

He has been stuck on that scanner for sure

[@russellsanders1400]

I agree, he’s ignoring the oil in the harness , that’s an issue. Got to many deferent codes coming up, from my experience that’s a sign of wiring issue, not every time but most of the time

[@davidfleishman2275]

@@russellsanders1400 Wire rub through in the harness. going to shorts, opens, or grounds?

[@ThisIS_Insane]

@@davidfleishman2275 How to develop friction in a wireloom packed with oil, in the next Big Brother...

[@davidfleishman2275]

@@ThisIS_Insane Wire insulation does not like oil. the insulation will fail with oil on it. Or oil that has wicked in the wire. Split and open up. Have seen this myself.

[@Mike-5709]

Hi Ivan! I belief that there is a leak in the intake tract, as the MAP sensor is causing error P0106. The ECU is trying to rectify the fault by increasing the mixture, which causes the engine to stall intermittently. Please try to put the intake manifold under smoke so that you can see if there is a leak. We already had this on a Ford with EcoTec engine. It was the hose to the intercooler. Greetings from Germany and i wish you and your Family Merry Christmas 🎄🎁 Ps: The P0012 was not present at our Diagnose. It looks like the Box of Pandorra.

[@v12alpine]

Not this video but in a couple past ones you can hear a high pitch whisle at idle, was loud enough to bother me with crappy PC speakers.

[@dazone]

I thought same thing especially when fuel trims are maxing out up and down...

[@corolfo]

⁠@@v12alpine I also heard that noise.

[@mrblonde2013]

The constant map sensor codes are a clue. Its either a correlation code or pointing to a mechanical problem. Now there is also a timing code, surely that is enough evidence to start checking the mechanical side, timing, relative compression, intake system etc? Awesome stuff, Ivan. Thank you and merry Xmas.

[@russellhltn1396]

When you go see the doctor, they always check the basics: weight, temperature, blood pressure, pulse, o2, etc. They do that every time, regardless of what you're there for. I've known some mechanics that advocate for the same - take the basic measurements so you don't overlook something simple chasing the symptoms.

[@GNX157]

14:00 I wonder if the owner has a habit of really topping up the fuel tank, and as a result fuel has been drawn into a part of the evap system that it shouldn’t have, or overloaded it. That can cause so odd running issues.

[@ferrumignis]

I'm still very suspicious of the oil in the coolant temperature sensor connectors. If the VVT solenoid valve was leaking oil into the loom it could explain this random behaviour.

[@mrfishbulb7187]

@@ferrumignis it would explain the random erratic symptoms, especially if it makes it to the ECU.

[@jg6142]

I would have given up a long time ago 😂

[@PaulCTownsend]

This vehicle would be tough in a real busy repair shop.

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

Yup impossible. 😬

[@JOHNSUE28]

Ivan, I got em. As a shop foreman I would be doing exactly what your doing right Now. We would sweat the details. But In my Opinion ,You're one of the Best. I am enjoying this Diag. and I suspect you now have that Intake Culprit right in your sights!

[@tomtke7351]

Numbers of us seemed to.l agree there was arcing at the back most plug coil. Is this a potential cause of ECM hickups.

[@calholli]

Is that why the MAP is ramping up??? The intake cam is r3tarded, which means it is closing late.. which means the piston is already coming up for the compression stroke and the intake is still open, which is pushing pressure back into the intake manifold and ramping up the MAP pressure? lol.. IDk, but this is wild... The variable valve timing could be flopping around and causing the randomness. I'd throw a pressure transducer at it.. and look at the in-cylinder pressure waveforms. Should be interesting.

[@JimmyMakingitwork]

By the time this van is fixed this guy will have no dough left! Ford, lol.

[@mikedaugharty5544]

After watching this most people should understand that the mechanicking and diagnostics are just not cut and dried they are a royal pain at times hold in there Ivan there is a end to the problem

[@davemccain9078]

It's a toilet just jiggle the handle.

[@RJTC]

As of about 10 mins in: The things I can think of as possibilities are a partly clogged / restricted exhaust, a faulty boost pressure sensor (especially if it has more than one), or EGR leakage? Exhaust leakage or back pressure could throw off both manifold pressure and fuel ratio??

[@bdo9114]

Know one would think less of you if you just push it off the a hill !!! Lol Have a great Holiday.

[@rickclayton1806]

Can I add maybe an intermittent sticky fuel injector to the mix? One leaky one will enrichen the ratio, resulting in negative ST trim.

[@EricHall-j2b]

Ivan, have you considered electrical noise in the DC circuit? Either induced or generated it can cause numerous pesky, random gremlins. I would start with the output from the Alternator by hooking up a scope to inspect the output. Is it a pure DC signal, no noise? Then repeat at the sensor level. High Frequency noise is usually caused by bad connections and cause a vast amount of random or bad data.

[@albutterfield5965]

Maybe Santa can drop off the parts cannon early. Thank God the dealer is not trying to fix this

[@mannynieves493]

That van have more episodes than waking dead.

[@deutzmans1]

fantastic viewing but I have confidence in your ability and perseverence ,can't wairt to see the final answer

[@BillChaney-s9g]

I forgot to mention eliminating fuel tank vapor problems by removing the gas cap and if it is capless, inserting something to open up system. This eliminates positive or negative tank fuel vapor pressure from skewing the diagnostic procedure.

[@johnnyarvo8954]

Put a clear hose on the evap line your pulling fuel from the tank

[@yason8582]

I'd be very, very interested in checking whether the sensor wires, like reference voltage and ground and signal, can carry actual current; like not just a continuity check but rather a real load such as a small test lamp. When the manifold pressure goes from around 4 to 6-7 during idle this must mean, assuming the MAP signal is trustworthy, that extra gas, either leaking air or fuel fumes (through a sticking evap purge valve) must enter the intake pipe. If it's fuel fumes that would also explain the huge negative fuel trims. If the valve is sticking for too long and the snaps shut that could explain the spikes in fuel delivery (requested volume and rail pressure) as the ecu compensates the sudden lack of extra fumes. Just thinking out loud, I'll be very very excited to see where all this leads to...

[@thehemiolds455]

Goog morning and happy holidays

[@jeremyah78]

WOW! if it wasn't for the camera, no one would believe it!!

[@Constitutionallycorrect]

Catalytic converter, check the PSI in the exhaust pipe before the cat

[@Peter_Riis_DK]

Grounds check?

[@AraCarrano]

Pressure Spikes remind me of the last Video from @FarmCraft101 , and how fluid hammering can be used to syphon water uphill. Vid title has "The Incredible Ram Pump" in it.

[@rogerst-aubin1554]

Hi Ivan! Very unteresting videos. Than you so much for your efforts. For this van: Did you check if the "Fuel Pump Recall" was done in this vehicule? Keep on watching !!! Merry Xmas

[@craiggoodwin9704]

Ivan, maybe all the parts are worn out! Thanks for Sharing! 🙃🙂

[@SimonBroughton]

Is the high pressure pump leaking into the engine causing oil dilution and giving cam timing codes? Take pump off leave pipes on run low pressure fuel pump and just gently operate the plunger with grips. You may see fuel come down the plunger!

[@itr1162]

Another issue with these vans are the grounds. I had issues with grounds not making good connections because they are bolted to painted surfaces and when the small threaded areas of the bolts gets crusties, bring strange issues. Im placing my bet on bad grounds for this pastry van.

[@MikeSmith-hx5xw]

I thought the cold start sounded more timing chain than exhaust leak.

[@dougkubash8673]

Could you put some steady vacuum on the MAP sensor to see what the reading is

[@mikeaho4143]

Wow Ivan this is a crazy one. I was wondering when you were thinking about the high pressure pump and maybe I'm not correct here but is that pump running off the camshaft ? Before you got the cam code, in the back of my mind I was thinking cam issue. So maybe camshaft position will help.

[@MrTonyPiscatelle]

This is making my head ache - Me thinks I'm gonna need more aspirin- This van has lost its freaking mind

[@Andy_Hinners]

So you're calling it a bad ECM?

[@jerrylarsen8329]

That arc from coil pak 3 to coil pak 4 harness is suspect. Those quick spikes in the data would lead to an arc. Is the issue more prevalent during more humid conditions. The spikes may be confusing the ecm when interrupting the engine data.

[@FrenchSmitty]

I would bet money that this vehicle has a vacuum and/or boost leak

[@kerrynew1969]

The voltage is sure all over the place 15.1 volts seems high

[@ronwade2206]

Bad filter capacitor or cold solder in one of the several control modules and that fuel pressure is all over the map.

[@solardiyhobbyandrevies8118]

Cold solder joint that expands open and closed at different temperatures will drive you insane. In the military I would also look wires first and get them out of the way before I would break out any expensive tester other than the multimeter.

[@streetfightertutorial]

Yes you were right when you said that this vehicle is possessed. Maybe an exorcist could help? Jokes aside it would be interesting to know in which Country was built this thing. Sometimes it makes a huge difference.