Why Speedrunners Use BAD Moves to Beat HeartGold SoulSilver

[@Messuduppotatoasia]

Red has the same response Pokémon Showdown players have when you hax the shit out of them

[@Moss_Dude]

I didn't see him screaming slurrs and coming up with every possible way he can to demean you for hacking a browser game

[@beanslinger2]

...

[@testerwulf3357]

@@Moss_Dude Or crying that their gonna tell on you to their totally real mod friend who'll totally ban you for life

[@Mat-ky5gr]

‘Once we’ve saved while we’re underground below this old dude after tweaking” is such a wack line

[@IosLocarth]

I love that you alternate on calling them cats and dogs lmao

[@enoyna1001]

It drives me crazy

[@RuijsNL]

Raikou is definitely a cat, Suicine a dog for sure. Entei can be both.

[@ihavepissinmybrain]

They’re beasts. Very easy.

[@AmberLB93]

@@RuijsNL been officially confirmed they are all based on big cats. raikou = tiger, entei = ,ion and suicune = leopard.

[@TheDeathmail]

@@AmberLB93 No, it was confirmed that they were an amalgamation of multiple beasts... which is also why they were called beasts.... not cats or dogs... The cat vs dog thing is more of a laurel/yanny situation... but in this case, both are right. People who call them dogs notice the dog inspirations more, while people who call them cats notice the cat inspiration more.

[@brendanbeta487]

One thing you didn’t mention is that all speed runs use the Female Character due to the catching tutorial starting quicker.

[@StarmenRock]

Omg it's the same as may talking too much on emerald then

[@roku-casualenjoyer555]

If im not mistaken, he already adressed that in a previous video. (Correct me if im wrong)

[@wdinan]

no its called sexism for legal reasons, this is a joke

[@frozenbonkchoy4986]

@@wdinan for honesty reasons though…

[@homerman76]

​@@frozenbonkchoy4986 it really isn't though, it just shows the difference in personalities, the female avatar just happens to be more interested in giving you a more in depth explanations in Emerald and the Johto remakes than the male avatar who is a bit more interested in getting straight to the point, neither is a bad thing, nor a consistent scenario since it tends to alternate between which avatar is better for speedrunning iirc 🤔

[@samwise3744]

Oof relying on Thunder accuracy sounds like a pain

[@nicolaistuhlmuller8718]

Not with rng manips.

[@plveuk813]

​@@nicolaistuhlmuller8718it is almost impossible to rng manip battles the rng for battles is so inconsistent and spontaneous

[@petrie911]

Small correction: the chance of winning the lottery is 1/65536, not 1/100000. Trainer IDs are a short integer, so they only range from 0-65535.

[@karyoplasma]

All the odds stated in the video are wrong. Perfect Raikou is 1 in 31^6 or 1 in 887,503,681, same for the starter all the while you don't even need perfect starter and Raikou, so realistically, the odds for a runnable starter and Raikou are much, much better. The odds of hitting 11 thunders in a row is 0.7^11 = 0.019 or about 2%. I assume the numbers are made up to sound impossible to create hype but they are not reliable or correct in any way.

[@Lucario387]

@@karyoplasma you forgot to accoutn for the nature in the perfect raikou, and used the wrong range for ivs. It's 1/ (32^6 * 25) or 1/26843545600, less than the rate showed in the vid The thunder odds of your is more correct than in the vid tho

[@karyoplasma]

@@Lucario387 True, I forgot Nature exists lol

[@slanyus]

@@karyoplasma its 32^6*25

[@PulseEffects]

Just wanted to clarify three mistakes and a clarification I did not make in the video! Everything else should be correct! 1. I made a mistake on the probability to hit 11 Thunders. While the decimal came out to 0.02824, the percentage was actually 2.824%! 2. The chances of winning the lottery are 1/65,536 as there are also a limited amount of Trainer IDs available in the game. I put this number out there from adding Secret IDs as well! 3. Flash is not an HM, so it is not tied to Falkner. Rock Smash instead is! 4. It cannot hail in Mt. Silver on January 1st. Making it possible for Blizzard to miss on Red if we do not move the time forward or backward!

[@MrAllallalla]

Loved the video but 1. is still wrong. That's ten thunders in a row. 0.7^11 = 0.01977

[@BlazeStorm]

The Rai'cow' is how I've always pronounced this pokemon as a kid, as my native language reads those letters differently. I got so excited, then your fakeout slapped me in the face lmao

[@zoranadraws]

The fact I recognize the radio card thing and not the random pokemon check is rather funny to me. Great video Pulse, keep it up!

[@belphy205]

Ahh yes Riku who constantly talks about Darkness

[@-penta-1357]

Flash is a TM in HGSS though, Falkner's badge lets you use the HM for Rock Smash instead, but I get where the confusion comes from, since Flash was an HM in Gen 2.

[@BananaReidy]

Flash isn't bad against an ai, it allows for set up thank to the ai being scripted dumb enough not to know when to switch pokemon. The ai sometime doea but not much.

[@PulseEffects]

It's unreliable though unfortunately! X-Items are much more consistent for dealing with enemy AI!

[@NathanCotrill]

3:38 This joke won my like

[@Dukstless]

"Whitney, for obvious reasons" not really. casual players will get stopped by Miltank, but speedrunners fear the Clefairy because while Miltank can be predicted, Metronome can be ANYTHING so you're just praying you don't get a move that kills your run

[@ricebox3048]

Raicow the legendary cat 🤣 I love the mispronounced pokemon names and the amazing content!!!

[@N12015]

Isn't it a sabertooth?

[@toplil4118]

@@N12015 Yeah I'm pretty sure the three legendary beasts are all based off of some kind of felid, so it's appropriate enough

[@borby4584]

@@toplil4118 yep. Entei is a Lion, Suicune is a Panther/Cougar (one of the two)

[@piranhalettuce]

@@borby4584 Isn't Suicune a leopard?

[@discat907]

​@@piranhalettuce I'm going to bite you

[@brandonwejkszner1733]

I love that it’s called tweaking

[@wifisdead42]

the kid with the blaster at 1:04

[@SquidonAgixxer]

bro i was hoping someone else had seen that

[@canadiangovernmentproblems767]

I'm wondering if this RNG manipulation can be used for stuff like shines because that would honestly be awesome

[@WingedEspeon]

It can. I have done it. You either need to do some tricks to discover your secret ID or start a new game and manipulate your trainer ID. I prefer the trainer ID manipulation because then you can choose the nature/IV spread you get when getting your shiney.

[@lilianmesmo]

rng manip up to gen 4 is pretty known, there are a lot of ways to manip shinies google it and you'll sure find out

[@rokka7188]

Knowing now how to RNG manipulate myself, I'm playing Soul Silver with a Cute Charm Glitch (for 20% chance for a shiny wild Pokemon with a Cute Charm lead, the lead gender also depends) and can RNG manipulate any egg to be shiny, specific nature or gender. Don't care too much for IVs now, but it was pretty time-consuming to learn first. But yes, you can do alot of things with it.

[@GT-Rev]

It took me almost two hours of resetting to get the glitch working on my Diamond game. Absolutely love the cute charm glitch, it made the game so much fun

[@ogeid772]

Wait, how does Snorlax miss Blizzard? Doesnt Blizzard always hit under hail? Is that not a thing in gen 4?

[@PulseEffects]

Starting the game on January 1st stops hail from showing up!

[@enickma910]

more specifically, an easter egg weather called "diamond dust" replaces hail on certain dates of the year

[@rbasi25]

My face when he called Raikou a dog... bish it's a metherflekkin cat.

[@Ttarler]

Not a big issue, but almost all computer RNG is pseudo-RNG.

[@PulseEffects]

Yeee a lot of folks don't know that Pokemon isn't completely random though. It's quite fun to show how well we can break them.

[@Ttarler]

@@PulseEffects oh ya - and I definitely appreciate the effort to educate the audience. Cheers for that. I’m only calling out that all but the most hardened computer systems are similarly breakable. Love to see your growth as a creator - keep up the good work.

[@enoyna1001]

What RNG in computers is not pseudo?

[@bestaround3323]

​@Enoyna Those that use several lava lamps based on weather patterns.

[@Ttarler]

@@enoyna1001 Best Of covered it primarily - I work in banking we’ll use truly random processes to generate the entropy for our private keys. But outside of big banks, the government/defense, and some tech firms the cost is too high.

[@fragnite60]

in HGSS, Zephyr Badge allow you to use HM for Rock Smash, not Flash, which a TM starting Gen4.

[@M0rbidFates]

This sounds like that one kid on the playground. "I SWEAR if I had hit this and you had missed this then I crit here I woulda won!!"

[@kleinshui9082]

Couldn't focus on the starting section, had to jam out to Dragon Roost Island soundtrack

[@fernboy]

honestly feel bad for red in this situation. bro missed every move.

[@hanahomemadepizza1424]

You mentioned a blizzard miss during the red fight, how does that happen when blizzard is guaranteed to hit during hail? Or am I misremembering and does it not hail during that fight?

[@Slimeonian]

No no it does hail during red’s fight. Of course the player could change the weather during the battle but idk how that would happen in this speedrun 🤔

[@lappy6047]

Speed runners also set their date and time to have Diamond dust at the peak of Mt. Silver, negating the hail for the battle.

[@PulseEffects]

It does not hail if you have your date set to January 1st! You also can't change the time and date or else it will start hailing. Minor detail I missed in the video!

[@sagacious03]

Okay analysis video! Thanks for uploading!

[@djwolfita3613]

continuing to reset at the very start for a frame perfect input Seems like it SUUUUUCKS

[@Rattus375]

It's not actually super hard to get the frame perfect start. I don't speedrun, but I've used RNG manipulation to shiny hunt and I can hit my target frame about 40% of the time, so the start of each run would only take me 5-10 minutes. And speedrunners likely have far better reaction times than I do and are probably even more consistent than I am

[@IIIXouIII]

Flash is à good move againt IA. Flash + thunder wave = free set up for your offensive mon.

[@WulfricGrayscale]

I heard Mechonis Field start playing and I wasn't sure if I was actually hearing it or just imagining it from my Xenoblade session earlier

[@hotaruishere2133]

IT IS PRONOUNCED RAI-KOH KOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHH

[@TheBBCSlurpee]

Nope. Rye-koo

[@Raisonic]

@@TheBBCSlurpee All of the legendary beasts are named after different Japanese words for emperor (with a word referring to the associated element before it). In Raikou’s case, the name is 雷皇 raikou “thunder emperor”, and the name is pronounced like English “rye” + “koh”, not “koo” or “ku”. This can be confirmed by listening to the Japanese name as well.

[@TheBBCSlurpee]

@@Raisonic damn that’s actually pretty dope TIL

[@FrozenWaffle7]

I can finally go back to when I got a shiny gyrados

[@jaythephoenix]

Are non RNG manipulation runs a thing? A category?

[@PulseEffects]

Yes. They're just not very popular in Gen 3.

[@genshinimpact1328]

What's the song that starts at 5:26?

[@paula-ana4799]

Unfounded Revenge/Smashing Song of Praise. Its a smash bros mash up of two different songs from Mother 3

[@genshinimpact1328]

@@paula-ana4799 thankyou

[@kirbymastah]

Legendary cats hype

[@kintaro1851]

How can Blizzard miss on Mount Silver? Shouldn't it always hit due to the hail?

[@Yo-bj4sg]

Legendary cats? 🤨

[@nicolaistuhlmuller8718]

Well yeah, Raikou is a sabretooth tiger, Entei is a lion and Suicune is a panther. With Raikou it's the most obvious thanks to its well massive sabre teeth and a tiger pattern on its fur.

[@harrisonconnelly3173]

I got 2ish percent chance when I did (0.7)^11 for 11 hits so I think you are a bit off on that one

[@PulseEffects]

Yes this was a mistake! The decimal came out to 0.02824 when the percentage was actually 2.824%.

[@Bukkyplays]

Pop off pulse

[@lh3178]

Crackheads 🤝 HGSS Speedrunners

[@theepicgaming5260]

Wait getting pokerus was that hard? I remember having a fuck ton of Pokemon I'd eventually have that

[@frowggang]

Pokerus spreads/infects other mons that dont have it, to get it in the first place is the hard part. Once ya have it you can infect a box of mons. Also mons eventually lose the pokerus and will have to be exposed to the virus again.

[@Dynamic256-ORIGINAL]

THIS VIDEO WILL REACH 1 LAKH VIEWS

[@plveuk813]

the Cyndaquil's and Raikou's IVs were not "perfect" whatsoever the Cyndaquil's IVs are 4/23/21/28/5/31 rash nature the Raikou's IVs are 16/4/22/31/17/4 rash nature HP ice winning the lotto is 1/65536 flash isn't a "bad move"

[@Dunco64]

So at what point does the runner have any agency in gameplay? Seems like everything is already set in stone and you're just checking things off of a list.

[@user-uv2cp1qd1j]

You could say the same about any speedrun

[@Exalosia]

you'd have to be an insane person to speedrun a pokemon game, this is pretty par for the course

[@plveuk813]

Battles are still random

[@Tsuchiyomi]

you made a joke about pronouncing Raikous name wrong, and then still mispronounced it, you truely are comedy.

[@MarioLuigi0404]

I hear Xenoblade music Instant sub

[@Dave-Lopez]

Nice

[@zeapexpredator520]

11 minutes, yikes

[@TheBBCSlurpee]

?????

[@ben8698]

Another mispronounced Pokémon name for content

[@TheBBCSlurpee]

Duh

[@d-anca3491]

How to make a Pokémon game boring, in my opinion the fun is not bug the game to get always the same and bypass stages of the game.

[@TheBBCSlurpee]

Don’t speedrun it then lul

[@frowggang]

You wont be the fastest in the world without exploiting flaws in the games code, this goes for all games

[@omerwatch9679]

first

[@Dave-Lopez]

Ok

[@theschnozzler]

No

[@MichaelSmith-xj1dx]

Somebody in the comments lmk doesn't rain dance increase thunders accuracy

[@Thatoneguywithglassesandautism]

i thonk oak ony checks for the Earth Badge

[@-.bella.-]

thonk

[@Thatoneguywithglassesandautism]

@@-.bella.- yes