Pursued and Persistent Road Rage

This Audi driver was triggered when my cammer showed him a hand signal with a single digit!
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[@AeroChronicles]

Hi everyone, I'm the cammer in this incident. Just wanted to give you an update on what Cheshire Police have said to me since I reported it. Phil Greaves from the Initial Investigation Team called me a few days after. Basically to go through what had happened. He explained to me that he ran the registration in their system of the Audi which had come up that it was under trade. The original owner the car was registered to, lives in Manchester. Phil explained that obviously that is outside his area and would need permission from GMP to go and send his officers to investigate and ask who he sold the Audi to, if he knows who he sold to etc. He has put a marker on the vehicle with a Section 4A public order and damage to Motor vehicle. But advised that his officers would only make a stop if the car was doing something illegal. They would not randomly stop it to see if the driver was a match in my case. I've sent Phil all the footage and Screenshot of his face and he says he's logged it in the system. I've had no further communication on the incident since. To be honest I don't think anything will happen but we'll see. He does seem the type to do something again that's for sure. Definitely learnt from this though - If someone wants to drive like an idiot don't add fuel to the fire. Will give them a wave. Thanks Ash for the Analysis!

[@GWJUK]

Well done it’s just a shame the Police are useless as ever. Quite capable of arresting people for drinking a cup of coffee on a park bench though aren’t they.

[@bikeman123]

The police seem to come up with ever more elaborate excuses to not do their jobs. And they wonder why they've lost our respect.

[@raithrover1976]

The driver is also white which reduces the chance of him being pulled even further.

[@CaptainPakka]

The police in this instance are pathetic. Several crimes on cam. They have his number and face and choose to do nothing, they choose to not do their job. Imagine how much effort they they would be making if it was one of their colleagues this had happened to, or a female POC.

[@R04drunner1]

@rjw93 well done for keeping your cool in a dangerous situation. Thankfully you had a phone so could call the police.

[@yodaslovetoy]

If a simple hand gesture is enough to set someone off, they need to get looked at

[@ZJS0113]

I mean, you shouldn't swear at people on the road if you don't want a reaction. Lol

[@dlevi67]

@@ZJS0113 My ballistic nuclear missile is falling on you for making that comment.

[@ZJS0113]

@@dlevi67 okay. Lol

[@SomeBadStuff999]

@@ZJS0113 true a reaction would be normal , but if you think this is the appropriate reaction To a gesture, go see a doctor...

[@Hysteria2003]

Some people are this triggered by beeping your horn or flashing your lights

[@CycolacFan]

Surprised it’s a young guy in an Audi, they’re normally so level headed and law abiding… especially the guys in the really cheap small-engined ones.

[@TheRip72]

Sarcasm doesn't usually come across so well in writing, but you pulled it off nicely.

[@CycolacFan]

@@TheRip72 if I say thank you it’s going to sound sarcastic now…

[@richardhammer187]

lol

[@VoxelLoop]

You make a REALLY good point about engine size. The people in the high end performance variants of cars generally drive a bit more sensible, it's always buddy-boy in his Golf GTD or something driving like a moron. :)

[@ronloc3309]

@@VoxelLoop yeah cuz the golf gtd is a really small engined car

[@jasonk7072]

2 year ban for dangerous driving, 24 months suspended for the threats and 750 years hard labour with no chance of parole for the outfit. Next case please……

[@vibez_kru01]

We need Judge JK!! 😂👍🏾👍🏾

[@mattlawton4715]

@Jason Kent 🤣 love it best comment.

[@Fireglo]

Not in this country lmao

[@alanrobertson9790]

I wish.

[@CaptainPakka]

Bang on.

[@KahnuevsKrake]

The guy was definitely right to mount the pavement. Getting out of danger should always take precedence over the rules.

[@Strider9655]

Yeah, but if like me you drive an old barge, just run your car down the side of his and then inform the Police later when you get home. He'll learn a valuable lesson about messing with the man with nothing to lose, the lone wolf.

[@gingernutpreacher]

@@Strider9655 I personally would have run him over simply out of fear rather than safety concerns over pedestrians

[@user-wq9mw2xz3j]

yup. Laws are not the most important

[@moosevision8113]

@@gingernutpreacher yes, people say just drive away, but what would have happened if the camera car found themselves in a situation later where they were unable to escape, like being stuck in traffic/narrow road etc. IMO driving away from an attacker is dangerous because they may have an opportunity later to attack which you cant escape from, its better to use your car in self defense and turn them into road bolognese so they no longer pose a threat.

[@gingernutpreacher]

@@moosevision8113 agreed . have you noticed though that's the ones that you generally fear for your life They have not been your fault ( when they have been they just Stuck there fingers at me and drove off ) But it does depend where you are the ability to drive to a police station is now none exsisatant

[@Matthew-bu7fg]

Nice of him to put his hazard lights on at 3:21 to announce to everyone on that road that he's a hazard. And that's probably the kindest description of him that will be seen in this comments section

[@dlevi67]

🤣

[@beaulieuonnp593]

haha

[@itchyscratch3829]

Typical! The only time an Audi driver uses signals is when they are committing road rage! 😂

[@adambutterworth7608]

I thought the same 🤣🤣

[@akaCol1987]

@@itchyscratch3829 Do we know if the cam car was also an Audi? Because the driver of the cam car also made a signal early on.

[@ConsumerWatchdogUK]

That guy is why there are prisons. A danger to all of us.

[@fredmercury1314]

Maybe he just really wanted to apologise for his misuse of the roundabout.

[@beaulieuonnp593]

@@fredmercury1314 haha

[@rogermellie8068]

But he isn't going to go to prison because the police aren't interested.

[@MarkJones-gt2qd]

@@rogermellie8068 Now, claim you were wearing a wig, and he was shouting transphobic slurs, and they'd be hunting him down as a national priority. It's worth a shot. He'd get in far more trouble too. If you are willing to show up in court in a wig, anyhow.

[@rogermellie8068]

@Mark Jones what you on about Jonesy?

[@David-xc4us]

A car is one of the most dangerous weapon anyone will own and when u use it to chase someone….then it’s time to take that privilege away

[@RichO1701e]

time to take their liberty away as well. Some time spent at her majesty's pleasure would do the rest of civilised society good

[@Johnsmith-fz2dm]

Yep, that goes both ways though ;) obviously you wont want a dashcam at that point though....

[@joel1418]

I don't know mate, a machine gun is pretty dangerous

[@MrDanonwheels]

Rather take his walking privileges away. Permanently.

[@Sypheara]

@@MrDanonwheels 110%. Im going to be honest, third time he would have tried this and id not turn around, but go straight over him. Under assumption he was going to keep going and put my life in danger.

[@alexharker4347]

There is no question the cammer has been a victim of common assault. They certainly felt they would be subject to imminent unlawful harm, given the lengthy pursuit and their necessary evasive action. Furthermore, there's criminal damage in the kick to the car, and a possible public order offence also. And the kicker, it's all caught on camera, with his REG in full view. The Police will take action. I'd love to hear from the cammer what the outcome ends up.

[@tanfosbery1153]

Wonder if the police will be putting as much effort into finding the Audi driver as those who sent some nasty tweets a few weeks ago

[@glen7227]

victims dont indulge. if he stuck his finger up at him he is a bully himself an the fact he ran away after doing so makes him the worst kind of bully.

[@CrazedFandango]

My guess is, no action.

[@davidjames3080]

@@glen7227 This is itself a comment that only a male bully would come out with. Are you saying that anyone (man, woman, girl, grandma) who gesticulates at a piece of poor driving should have to confront the perpetrator of that poor driving, who is normally a young male who considers themselves an alpha. Give your head a wobble.

[@glen7227]

yes, if i was to stick my finger up to someone i would expect them to have something more to say. its not tit for tat, two wrongs dont make a right.

[@DannyDashcam]

I'll guarantee the chav in the Audi cut the roundabout on purpose for a reaction to bully someone. Imo reacting to bad driving whilst a risk is ok in my eyes. We are human and interact, just because he's in a car whats different. You see someone being a idiot in public your likely to point it out so why is being in a car any different? The fact he pursued 3 times and got out is pure road rage he shouldn't hold a licence and hopefully 1 day he won't look for a easy victim and finds someone who puts him back in his chav mobile physically and shows him why he shouldn't behave this way and grow up. Just my opinion.

[@joshbowersmtb8870]

It's an audi of course he did

[@TheSMSANDFP]

I think the difference is that someone can get hurt more easily when vehicles are involved

[@DannyDashcam]

@@TheSMSANDFP he got out. If you feel threatened you can hit them with their vehicle to escape , as long as you immediately report it to police.

[@DannyDashcam]

@@joshbowersmtb8870 I don't stereotype, it's a driver of a car at the end of the day mate

[@Strider9655]

Exactly, seems to be a thing these days, people looking for something to be offended by, creating situations in which they'll be offended.

[@adam_priscak]

I’ve once shown a hand gesture to another driver too. They chased us down, when we stopped at a traffic light and got blocked it, passenger came out, threw a bottle at our car and made his way to my door. Stupidly, I came out, as I was annoyed about him damaging the car. I am 6ft3, so I was much bigger than him, but I saw that he was holding onto something in his hoodie pocket, which could have been a weapon. Fortunately his buddies (there were 3 altogether) shouted at him to get back as the traffic started moving and it was attracting too much attention. I was very fortunate, my arrogance could have cost me dearly! This cammer did really well at avoiding any further trouble. It’s not worth it, remember we have more to lose than these thugs…

[@Keithbarber]

The cammer did the best thing in keep driving and avoiding confrontation and did not respond There are comments where "keyboard warriors" reckon they would get out and have a go but could end up getting the worst of it

[@adam_priscak]

@@Keithbarber 100% agree, getting out in this situation is probably the worst idea. Even experienced military and martial arts practitioners will advice to avoid any confrontation and only fight if really necessary to defend yourself and your family.

[@PedroConejo1939]

@@adam_priscak Too right. Hollywood lies.

[@leifcian4288]

If you've got a literal motorcar you've got more than enough...

[@goodyeoman4534]

Which is why you should never give abuse unless you're willing to back it up.

[@AM2K2]

Imagine having such a fragile ego...going through life being so insecure about perceived 'disrespect'.

[@bmorris5863]

Innit if any ones swears at me ,if I accidentally cut them up etc I just burst out laughing 🤣

[@Strider9655]

Wouldn't have happened if he wasn't driving an Audi............ Let's just ban German cars FFS.

[@steve5x565]

@@Strider9655 are you just jealous you can’t afford one? People like you who stereotype everyone who drives a German car really wind me up, you probably drive around in your car looking to cause people in German cars problems, refusing to let them out of junctions, closing down gaps etc. Stop being part of the problem and try to be part of the solution. I know plenty of good drivers who drive German cars, I also know plenty of terrible drivers who drive cars that are not from Germany. Yes there are some bad drivers in German cars, but no higher percentage than any other type of car. When I have had German cars in the past it’s quite noticeable how much worse you get treated than when I’m driving something from elsewhere. The little prick in this video was lucky he didn’t pull that stunt on someone with a bit less tolerance than the cammer. Hopefully next time he will get what he is already overdue.

[@Strider9655]

@@steve5x565 Are you for real? German car drivers don't get treated any worse, they just expect to be treated as though they have an elevated status, and they have a mental breakdown when that doesn't happen. They a much higher percentage, there has been scientific been research into this phenomenon, available all over the internet if you look for it. It's about the pseudo social status triggering dormant behaviour traits, like at work when a "nice" person gets promoted to manager and they turn into a tyrant.

[@phil955i]

I know, what is he 12?

[@CarCleaningGuru]

If you’re conflict avoidant don’t invite conflict. Also, badman runs like a little girl 😂.

[@TacticalKeyboardOperator]

well said

[@cupofcustard]

Probably ran out of Fruitellas.

[@micheals1992]

I don't like conflict. I drive like an emotionless robot xD. To be honest though it is pretty hard to suppress your anger sometimes, if you manage to tame your inner demon though driving as a whole is allot less stressful.

[@RichO1701e]

a hand signal doesn't invite that level of conflict from a drugged up nonce in an Audi

[@beechy006]

Didn’t expect to see everyone’s favourite car wash guru in the comments here! Time to detail Ash’s BMW for a collab?

[@jsl4228]

If that doesn't end in a prosecution then the Police in that area and/or the CPS need to have a serious think about themselves. There is absolutely no doubt that a number of offences were committed by Mr Red Audi in this video.

[@dlevi67]

I'll pay you a pint if a prosecution is even started, and a whole keg of beer if the prosecution results in a penalty that goes beyond a caution.

[@davidfoster1762]

I totally agree .

[@jsl4228]

@@dlevi67 I fear you're right. Shocking how bad the system is when it comes to things like this.

[@davidhunt240]

I haven't seen a solitary cop and you know that zombie apocalypse feeling that everyone has twigged there are no cops around so they can do as they please add to that periods of "government control" in lockdown and there's a powder keg of twats ready to blow 🤣 I'd be genuinely surprised if Cheshire Constabulary brings this to the CPS for further action.

[@poglewood1691]

Assuming the plates are legitimate and they can identify the driver, a big if....

[@Richard_Barnes]

I’ve seen people get triggered and indeed, have been triggered myself so many times in my 35 years driving, however I’ve never been witness to something like that. A few words, the ‘in car’ bravado as it is and all that, but never a full on chase. I am very impressed by the cammers ability to keep thinking clearly and having options at all times, even under that stress. I honestly don’t know if I would have even thought to go up the pavement because it is so entrenched in me not to do that, BUT if being threatened and in fear of our safety, then I would hope I do think to do it safely.

[@PedroConejo1939]

You might not have thought about it before but after watching this, I guarantee it'll be something you consider if you're ever in a similar situation. Ashley's channel is a public service.

[@Richard_Barnes]

@@PedroConejo1939 yep. 👍🏻 agree

[@Poetry4Peace]

​@@PedroConejo1939yass

[@markplenty2631]

Because of this potential aggression I don’t bother reacting to other drivers bad decisions but instead just let it happen, the bad behaviour just escalates and it could get dangerous. I do the everyone wins driving, the bad driver and their ego isn’t challenged so they soon feel victorious and I win because I don’t have to deal with their hurt ego and possible consequences.

[@raithrover1976]

I'm a professional driver as well and i deal with tailgaters by looking for a safe place to pull in and let them past. Your best bet is to remove yourself from the situation as soon as it's safe to do so. Incidentally, the last person to aggressively tailgate me over a sustained distance was a police officer driving a marked police van without blue lights flashing.

[@ZJS0113]

@@Buildxbeyond easiest way to deal with tailgaters to A) ignore them B) make them overtake you

[@AwoudeX]

yeah, the slightest things can tick people off at times. The other day i saw someone trying to merge onto the highway and i decided to make room by going into the fast lane. I accelerated so i could overtake the merging car. The merging car accelerated along with me, stayed dead next to me untill a lorry appeared in front of him, having a slower maximum speed limit and all that jazz. By that time i had decided to just let him pass me whilst in the slow lane, which by the way is against the rules... He squeezed between me and the lorry to the fast lane. The funny thing is, we took the same exit a bit later and the roundabout at the bottom of it, there he was, he had won absolutely nothing and made a simple safe situation into a potentially dangerous one.

[@beaulieuonnp593]

true

[@paulcollyer801]

You Can use the “gesture behind the door” trick, they can’t see it but it relieves Your tension quicker lol

[@gezzarandom]

I remember a funny road rage PSA ad in America, a guy kicks off and Evander Holyfield gets out of the car.

[@ianmacfarlane1241]

That's a great point - too many people like acting like a cardboard gangster, but occasionally you'll come across someone who'll easily deal with your nonsense.

[@paulcollyer801]

Seen that… it’s on KZbin I think

[@derekheeps1244]

Who ?

[@paulcollyer801]

@@derekheeps1244, I believe a heavyweight boxer

[@ianmacfarlane1241]

@@derekheeps1244 One of the greatest Heavyweight boxers of all time - not like these modern day gigantic....freaks, but a wonderfully talented heavyweight - he's best remembered among non boxing fans as the guy who Mike Tyson bit.

[@liberalmatt]

The dress code says it all. In this situation, I'd find a roundabout and keep going round until he gets bored. If he can't overtake, and you keep moving, you're in control.

[@Keithbarber]

Make him look stupid and embarrass him Hurts him a lot more than sinking to his own level of stupidity

[@margaretnicol3423]

No it doesn't. Don't be such a snob! A suit is just as likely to get triggered as a baseball cap.

[@liberalmatt]

@@margaretnicol3423 it is generically indicative, not an absolute statement. Suits are generally viewed as less likely to need to maintain fake macho image, as displayed here.

[@ibs5080]

To the tune of The Magic Roundabout

[@margaretnicol3423]

@@liberalmatt Depends on what the suits wear when they're not at work! He could have been going to the gym! (Yes, I know!)

[@walterposs1212]

I remember being the victim to one of these when I first started driving. Going down a 30mph road with a black Audi Q3 riding really close on my tail and flashing their lights, I stick to the speed limit (Had a black box and didn't really feel like speeding down a heavy packed area, not to mention the Corsa I had couldn't really go above 5mph anyway aha), so when I got to a roundabout, I went about as normal than pulled in soon as I got to a clear piece of road to let the guy go past (This was my first mistake). Didn't throw any hand signals to the other driver, however I said to myself (In a quiet, self talking voice with windows rolled up) what a ****ing idiot. The black Q3 then drive past, slowed and started reversing until it was level with my car. At this point looking back I shouldn't have engaged and I acknowledge this now, but being the new driver I was, I rolled down the window to hear what the guy was saying. He started saying "What did you just say?! I'll deck you, you wanna fight?" to which I responded "You were right on my arse, it's a 30 limit", eventually after what felt like an eternality of calmly telling this guy that he was riding my tail and that I was driving the speed limit, he gets back into his car and drives off. How on earth he heard me whispering to myself I don't know, I've got a feeling he was looking for a fight just by his attitude and his manor of driving. I was utterly shocked that idiots like that are allowed on the road. Now days, if I think someone's riding too close I'll analyse the situation and look for options, turn onto a different road etc. But if there's anything I've learnt, NEVER pull over if you think somebody is going to do something stupid and definitely try not to engage them. Everyone stay safe out there! Nice work Ashley keep it up!

[@davidhunt240]

He couldn't see, he just assumed. It is how these nutjobs work, they self-wind until they can justify the violence that comes later. People looking on from the outside just see a madman muttering to himself, watch "Sexy Beast" and listen to Don Logan slowly winding himself up, then you'll get the idea...

[@AwoudeX]

tailgating is reserved for specially stupid people. If you have one of those behind you, you'll need to do the thinking for him aswell as being responsible for your own driving. Keep more distance, approach situations with a bad overview slower than usual and hope that the reaction time of the idiot behind you is sufficient in case you still need to abruptly react to another idiot ahead of you. Then give the idiot the best chance to overtake at the first good opportunity. I'd not pull over to let someone like that pass though, but that's up to you.

[@alanjohnston1199]

I had a guy tailgate me for a good 5 miles or so on the bendy parts of the A84 today. Like you say, I kept myself slower than usual going round the bends to do the thinking for him. As soon as I reached a nice straight that went on long enough for an overtake I hugged the left to give him plenty of space to overtake. And what did he do? He planted himself so far up the next car's arse that there were times I couldn't actually see the car he was following. He overtook that driver after a couple of miles. Rinse and repeat all the way home, no doubt.

[@momentumstocks3493]

@@alanjohnston1199 I hope there is a good tree or post with his name on it before he kills someone else

[@Boo-YouDoYou]

You could have been talking to someone on hands free! I sing along to my music too. So that's crazy that he said "wtf u just say" That tosser was just being a bully because he had an an Audi and you had a Corsa. I always out my hazards on and pull over. Pretend to go onto Google maps wait for them to pass and and out of sight then continue en route.

[@mattw8332]

Funnily enough I was involved in an unpleasant road rage with an red Audi A3 driver a few weeks ago in Norfolk. I get the impression that both Audiots were just looking to wind up other motorists in some sort of willy waving competition. This style of car must attract that sort of pond life.

[@drahcirnevarc9152]

I drive an Audi TT, but am also both a 60 year old on blood pressure medication and painfully aware of the reputation of my fellow Audists, for which reasons I have fully taken on board Ashley's philosophy of making everything a non-event by restraining speed and showing maximum consideration for other road users and pedestrians. I'm also a 50-70 mile pw leisure cyclist, and riding with a smile on my face is more enjoyable and better for my blood pressure.

[@owyn768]

Did anyone else notice that just when you need someone to get out of the way they decide to slow down to 15mph to see whats going on! Frustrating!

[@kenbrown2808]

what I've noticed is just when you finally get around someone going 10 under, you catch up to someone going 15 under.

[@manu-tonyo9654]

It's called hazard awareness, adjusting speed in accordance with the situation. Grrr Pesky safe drivers

[@owyn768]

@@manu-tonyo9654 yawn

[@manu-tonyo9654]

@@owyn768 stretch

[@sereveti]

I was driving in this area just a month ago, I'm from a neighbouring town and I had no idea the shared space was coming up. Given I've only had my licence a couple months, I was dreading it when I saw the sign "welcome to Poynton shared space", but it actually wasn't so bad. I've seen that statistically they're miles safer than other roads simply because people are a thousandfold more alert and drive at an appropriate speed on them, so I embraced it. Thankfully this prick in the Audi wasn't there to ruin my fun.

[@J-Stoic]

I live close by, been driving 11 years now and i hate this shared space with a passion it's horrible to drive through. People also drive there very fast showing off their "Cool" cars.

[@matr1724]

@@J-Stoic The shared space is a huge improvement on the terrible signalised junction that used to be there, as someone who walks, cycle and drives it regularly its a big success IMO. People seem to hate it because they actually have to pay attention and the car isn't always king for once - how a village/town centre should be.

[@Rapscallion2009]

Tempting as it is to say you'd run him down, the hassle and stress from waiting to hear if you're going to be charged with culpable homicide isn't worth it. Using the path to escape is justified.

[@tobleramone]

You're unlikely to kill or even injure him much.

[@phil955i]

That thought did go through my mind. However if I had my family in the car & the same turd had a weapon in his hand & he was physically obstructing my path to escape I think it would be justified.

[@fredmercury1314]

I can assure you I'd sleep like a baby knowing the CPS would never make it stick because I have video evidence of him attempting to violently assault me, and a very expensive lawyer.

[@truth.speaker]

@@fredmercury1314 that's kinda the problem. You would need to pay a lot of money and take a lot of time out for a trial. I'd rather drive over the pavement. Avoid him accusing you of dangerous driving

[@paulcollyer801]

You’re only going to get away with running him over if there were no other options available

[@TheNiceJackass]

I think it's a good idea to be aware of the door lock button in your car just in case anything like this happens.

[@RicardoPetrazzi]

Well done to cammer for their quick thinking and giving themselves options for get-away routes. Their intial 'hand signal' obviously was not the best thing t have done, but the reaction it preciptated was just incredible and inexcusable. They were super-aware of the transition-space around their vehicle and it definitely helped them evade the potential assailant. That could have turned real ugly and in I donlt doubt some peple watching this would have maybe had the thought to just run him over!

[@deniseoxland151]

I would of

[@insightphoto]

but that's not going to be regarded as 'self-defence', the correct thing to do is call 999, and then get away from the situation @@deniseoxland151

[@cohenworrior898]

The moment the thug steps out, he's fair game. Infantry should never fight armour. You want to see a "not bright spark"? How about the "not bright sparks" who pepper villages with double roundabouts. They should be forced to leave their name and email adres on every disaster they "designed".

[@Richard_Barnes]

What a quote! Love it. Need to write that one down………

[@ollieb9875]

I think planners do this on purpose to confuse and therefore slow down traffic.

[@tie2tight]

My drive to work is substantially faster due to 2 lights being replaced with roundabouts

[@georgeclaydon1079]

There is a 15 minute video featuring all of the bright sparks who designed this junction, just search poynton regenerated in youtube. Got cornered by someone involved in the project and genuinely could not escape him until I had watched the entire video and received a lecture on road design...dull to say the least

[@PedroConejo1939]

@@ollieb9875 One of the intended purposes of the mini-roundabout is to slow vehicles down but counter-intuitively, this speeds up traffic flow.

[@evanwallace1949]

Mean watching ur videos for a while now and love them. Keep the work up!!

[@wirdy1]

Red mist. Excellent restraint by the cammer, not sure if I would've had the same self-control. & the police will do sweet fa.

[@sexycowman]

Police are actually pretty good with dashcam footage nowadays. They love fining and banning people.

[@notorio526]

@@sexycowman *Except when a cyclist is the victim.

[@RichO1701e]

@@notorio526 and it's one of their own, allegedly

[@RichO1701e]

If there's damage to the cammer's car they might, and if they recognise the chav. There's no way he doesn't have a record already

[@wirdy1]

@@sexycowman We'd like to hope so, eh. Dashcams are great for insurance claims & youtube. For Police matters, they are deemed as coming from a single (untrusted) source & without corroboration are unlikely to be evidential.

[@derekheeps1244]

As I've already emailed Ashley separately about , I had a very similar experience a few nights ago ; passing a parked van and car at the side of a country road , I sounded my horn to warn of my approach in case either opened a door ; also because I had glimpsed an oncoming vehicle across one of the bends . This was enough to trigger the van driver into chasing me for about five miles before cutting in front , just like the red Audi , and kicking the side of my car as I accelerated away when he was out of the van . I can't say too much else just now , but I reported it as road rage , then a WPC came round and , after viewing my dash cam footage it is being treated as RTA section 2 - dangerous driving . I will share my footage and more details once this has been to court .

[@sroberts605]

Any progress?

[@earlebacciochi9796]

Extreme over reaction! Must be dealt with as if 3 separate road rage incidents!

[@tomg6333]

Wise words, best not to try and confront someone like this and get away, if they'll behave like this in a car they probably wouldn't think twice about sticking a knife in you.

[@beaulieuonnp593]

and in front of witnesses in broad daylight

[@rthompson938]

What you have to consider is no one knows what you would do when presented with an incident like this, some will run and some will fight depends upon how you have been brought up and how confident you are.

[@ibs5080]

That's an interesting one as you said Ash and quite worrying that the Audi driver would be so persistent in chasing down the cammer over the hand gesture...and as you said, costing him so much more time than the original incident. Something tells me this isn't the first time he's gone after someone. Of course, best to keep the hand gestures to yourself. I have to admit some time ago to giving a "sarcastic friendly hand wave" (nothing rude) to am impatient driver behind me though I don't even do that anymore. As you eluded to, in a situation like this I think it's ok to break the rules to get away as long as it's done so safely. One thing I might have done a little differently in Round 2 (or any other time a driver gets out of their car to pursue on foot) is to drive very slowly away from the pursuer to give them hope they can still catch up with me on foot... and then drive away when we are a considerable distance from the pursuers car. Thus maximizing the distance they have to get back to their car! Bait them along whilst they are on foot for as long as possible...and then drive away. More chance they will then give up. Is it my imagination or is the Audi's offside brake light noticeably dimmer than the nearside? Wonder how well maintained Mr Angry keeps his Audi. Good to hear the police were notified. Im curious to know the outcome.

[@StenJenkins]

Quite happy to admit on round 3 I'd have been aiming my car at the Audi driver as he approached.

[@alisonwilliams4862]

I think I'd have got out the car on the third time and told him to f off!

[@ichabaudcraine2923]

Same

[@leeholden8658]

Wow, that area has changed a lot. That double roundabout is fairly new to me. It used to be a set of lights but the lights caused a lot of traffic jams due to tailbacks from vehicles travelling from Hazel Grove. It used to be my cycle route to BAe Woodford from Offerton and I had to wait at the left side of the road for a break in the traffic to get in the right lane. I guess with no BAe Woodford anymore the traffic has reduced a lot in the last few years

[@Shyted]

Rear camera would have been good to how dangerously he had to drive to catch up and get in front.

[@laurencebutcher696]

Thanks for another lesson on how not to behave on the road, and also ideas on what we can do to keep ourselves safe should the worst happen re: road rage. Love the comment about Cheshire Police at the end and 100% agree 😂

[@joshbowersmtb8870]

1. Make sure your windows are up and doors are locked and call the police. 2. Head for a quiet area you know well and do any evasive maneuvers to get away. Including hitting the pursuer if necessary. Describe everything to the police operator. 3. Remember to steer nice and wide on corners off throttle (to reduce understeer). Go wide because if you are speeding away your reactions are a lot slower if a car comes around a corner. 4. Wait for the police.

[@davidhunt240]

@@joshbowersmtb8870 good advice, it's also worth driving towards your local police station, even if, as in my case, it is never open to the public, there are always cops coming and going... and cops are like hornets, never see them around, but park in front of their nest and you'll get swarmed in seconds 🤣

[@hokicoki]

Yep the anti cycling lobby come out even when this has absolutely nothing to do with cyclists.......

[@davidhunt240]

@@hokicoki who are the "anti-cycling lobby" ?

[@hokicoki]

@@davidhunt240 Motorists that hate cyclists....There are lots of them around these days.

[@bradador1]

I love your videos. I can watch 1 at a time. I have learned lots. Thank you

[@fredmercury1314]

The correct course of action was to assume an immediate threat on your life, and drive into the rager as he approached.

[@paulcollyer801]

ONLY if there are NO other options. If you can run, run, if you can sidestep / drive safely over pavement, sidestep / drive safely over pavement. Running the delightful chap over when there are other less hurty options available to you will quite likely result in you facing charges

[@thromboid]

Some people are just looking for a fight, whether they're driving a car or walking down the street. When you see someone acting belligerently, give them a wide berth, not a reason to get aggro.

[@jakerockznoodles]

That is terrifying, how persistent he was and how he tried to block his escape before getting out! On the one hand, I don't think I would have made that gesture in the first place. On the other, I don't reckon I could have kept cool enough to get out of those situations as skilfully as the cammer did. I just hope I never find myself in an incident like that!

[@flemit35]

it would be terrifying if he looked hard.

[@jakerockznoodles]

@@flemit35 I dunno man, nutters can be dangerous no matter their size. From my experience, ruthless aggression and rage can often trump size and training, especially when people like that will happily carry concealed blades.

[@airportdocumentaries]

I would've been tempted to run him over

[@dlevi67]

@@flemit35 A knife is hard enough. Or even just a screwdriver.

[@flemit35]

@@dlevi67 he doesn't have one.

[@PurpleHumbug]

Great advice Ashley. Just don’t react. Yes, most of the time you will get away with your little gesture of defiance. But the odds tell you that if you keep doing it often enough something bad will happen. So try not to do it at all and avoid the stress of an uncomfortable incident.

[@sanfordcurtis8242]

The Audi guy is like “U WOT M8?” in the thumbnail.

[@SANDSCORCHER]

The difference between a raised palm and a raised finger is remarkable. Each gesture requires effectively the same amount of time and effort to perform but the potential outcomes are so very different.

[@speedbird5409]

Yeah I can't be bothered for road rage 😂 - do this in London and they'll just pull out a knife and it'll be game over - you wanna be right/have priority, have it!

[@vibez_kru01]

That’s right. You never know what some nutcase is prepared to do once they’ve been triggered into road rage.

[@wileywilson]

@Speed. Same thing in Bradford mate.

[@gazzaman28]

Just watching this raises my hackles, what a horrible situation, the cammer did so well to avoid any further confrontation, or damage to himself or others trying to get the hell out of the way.

[@paulharper4196]

I was persistently chased like this a long time ago, can't remember what I did to piss them off bit after realizing they weren't giving up, and that I was alone and there were 4 in their car, I went tactical and as it was night time I last seeing turned into another road (my car at the time was track prepped and cornered like it was on rails with upgraded brakes match) at the very last second, which caused him to overshoot and back up. I used this bit of time to get out of their sight line, drove onto someone's driveway that was concealed by a large bush and switched the car off, hoping they would be on chase mode, driving too quickly trying to catch me up to notice me in the drive. It worked, I gave it 30 seconds then got out of there and went home.

[@jeremyblaauw5197]

What planner thought all these joined roundabouts were a good idea...

[@cohenworrior898]

Obviously a bright spark.

[@ConsumerWatchdogUK]

They've put traffic lights on a small roundabout near me, dramatically reduced the through-put and increased emissions in the area. Not exactly rocket scientists are they.

[@mrslowly9985]

I do love these angry boys, they come out their vehicle like they're something special! The thing they don't realise is one day they'll come across someone, like me, who will use their vehicle as a weapon. I was fearing for my life officer, honest!

[@paulharper4196]

Someone did this to a friend's wife. He was so blinded by his rage that he didn't register when she drove into his work car park after calling hubby to say she was being followed. He still didn't register when he got out the car and strode over to her car. He finally registered when friend/hubby who is a big boy had him up against her car by his throat suggesting not so politely that he should leave while he still can.

[@FlyingPhysicist]

Not that this is the point, but having used those "shared zone" roundabouts in Poynton a few times, they do seem to cause more problems than they solve. Thankfully a bypass is being built to take through-traffic away from the town centre (generally most south-east and southbound traffic from Stockport and the Airport Link Road is forced to come straight through Poynton).

[@ElliottParkinson]

Ive been persued after ive made a mistake before. Car spent about 4 minutes directly behind me waving around and flashing their lights with their horn on. I never actually made a single guesture towards them, but they didnt want to stop, following me. I ended up making a slightly dodgy turn last minute to get away. No idea what makes people this angry, maybe they need mental health help or something? Either way, not safe.

[@margaretnicol3423]

That would really scare me. If I knew the area I'd probably drive to the nearest police station.

[@PedroConejo1939]

@@margaretnicol3423 If you can find one. You are legally allowed to use your mobile to call 999 in those circumstances. Just keep driving, try to get the reg of the culprit and keep on the phone.

[@margaretnicol3423]

@@PedroConejo1939 True. They used to be all over the place before they started closing them all down. You are allowed to laugh but only for a minute. I don't have a phone! OK - stop laughing now!!!

[@radishpea6615]

Ashley, if you get an update to this please post it on this thread, thanks.

[@ashley_neal]

Will do. Hopefully my viewer will see the video and give us an update 👍🏼

[@radishpea6615]

@@ashley_neal thanks

[@cargy930]

Sooner or later that Audi driver will meet his equivalent, or worse.

[@Shyted]

Knew a guy that was in a similar situation getting chased by a road rager, he made a phone call to some friends and they were waiting down a dead end. He pulled in and they had someone ready to block the exit.

[@emootikoah8156]

@@Shyted good on them

[@glen7227]

2 lil audis had it in for me, rapid little things they was, i couldnt get away, my breaker bar came out and modified their cars. then they left me to it :-D

[@gepwxaqdfsidsesg1548]

Some guy stopped a mate of mine who is ex highly trained military. The guy went to punch him through the open window at which my mate pulled him in through the window and held in with one hand whilst teaching him a lesson with the other. I don't think that you can do this unless you are highly trained to the extent that it's instinct.

[@stendecstretcher5678]

Yes bad karma awaits.

[@SkatKat]

Absolutely terrifying. That there is somewhat proper procedure for when you're afraid for your life, is even more so. We shouldn't have to be in that situation.

[@Pinie-ue9mz]

I saw another similar red audi road rage in England on another video that was like worse than this one, I'm glad your friend is ok

[@boojingleful]

Calling him a wet wipe is too kind 😂 must admit I've been guilty of the one-fingered salute in the past but I settle for an eye roll and a momentary grumble now

[@thesilverydragon]

I think I can summarize this clip quite simply in few words: Angry Audi driver desperately wants to fight. Great awareness by the cammer and awesome reaction (Aside from the finger... you know. :P )

[@goodyeoman4534]

I'd have obliged him. Wouldn't be much of a fight though - more of a quick beatdown.

[@thesilverydragon]

@@goodyeoman4534 Perhaps... assuming he doesn't pull a knife or some other weapon. He's angry enough to chase you down like a madman, not too big a stretch he's gonna make sure he can win a fight.

[@goodyeoman4534]

@@thesilverydragon He clearly had no knife. Would have been easy to jump out and smash him to bits.

[@thesilverydragon]

@@goodyeoman4534 I wouldn't be so sure about that. You don't know what's in his pockets or any other place it would be easy to hide a weapon of some sort.

[@goodyeoman4534]

@@thesilverydragon You can't account for every little danger. Sometimes you simply have to stand your ground.

[@sillybait1329]

It's lucky for the chav that the cammer didn't panic and take him out, some people get very nervous and do dangerous things when scared

[@John-pn4rt]

a similar thing happened to a friend of mine in Colchester. Unfortunately (or fortunately) for the idiot in that incident, my friend and his three mates who were passengers in the car are in the Parachute Regiment, for some reason the idiot lost all his bravado and aggression when they got out of the car and decided to leave!

[@clivethomas6864]

I always love the way they hide road traffic signs behind a tree or cover them in foliage so that if you notice it would be at the last minute when there is no time to read it because someone is breaking in front of you and you have to have your eyes on the road. It’s is a common problem in the uk.

[@Cheezsoup]

Maybe you should try gluing them.

[@tanyapavlova4758]

double mini roundabouts are more hassle then they are worth. I get the logic theoretically, but getting everyone to do them right is practically impossible.

[@Sython6]

Now try the magic roundabout in Swindon.

[@jhdore]

That’s not the fault of the roundabout, but the people who use them.

[@jhdore]

@@Sython6 great fun!

[@egcd9956]

These are not double mini roundabouts. They are not roundabouts at all. Ashley is wrong. It is an unmarked junction in line with the highway code. Everyone has equal priority.

[@andrewnorris5415]

We can all lose it occasionally. The key is to learn from it and what triggered us. And we never know who we will deal with. I surprised myself getting involved in a little road rage a few months ago. First in years. Will be much more alert now. Keep thinking I will see myself here on the channel.

[@BrokenFaceComics]

This junction can be a bit of nightmare. Both my motorcycle instructor and my car instructor took me through it a lot.

[@David_Trowbridge]

Could you get away with running him over when he got out as he was making himself a threat?

[@burgersnchips]

Probably seen as undue force with a lethal weapon

[@burgersnchips]

Plus you'd ruin the paint, which is more important than this lowlife.

[@kal9001]

A car is often considered to be a deadly weapon when purposefully used in such a way. And so the threat must also be a deadly one. If it's just some chav running his mouth with bare fists then it's unlikely to go well for you, in the same way as if you'd stabbed someone during an argument at the bar. However if they have a deadly weapon, such as they get out of the car with a meat cleaver and knuckle dusters and the only way out is through them, then fill your boots. You may end up in court anyway knowing the state of this country, but I can't see any serious action being taken.

[@PedroConejo1939]

I think by the third time, you'd probably be able to make a good case for proportionate self-defence, especially if there was no other way to evade him. By that point, I'd say you would reasonably be in fear for your life.

[@vibez_kru01]

@@PedroConejo1939 I agree. It’s easy to pass off an incident like this as not being serious enough because it didn’t end up with someone being physically injured…but the point is that a confrontation with this nutcase could have ended up with a serious physical injury or fatality if the cammer didn’t get away in time. The build up to a fatal incident would look the same if caught on camera. The outcome puts into context the seriousness of the events that led to it.

[@phillwainewright4221]

When he got out of his car and ran towards the cammer (round three), I would have laughed my tits off if some *other* chav nicked his car!

[@paulcollyer801]

This often goes through My mind when watching such videos, but it’s first thing and I’m only on my 2nd coffee 😂😂

[@mckenzie403]

I’ve driven through Poynton to head towards Macclesfield. I saw those roundabouts and the odd pavement markings and the road calming signs. I am surprised that this dude wanted to go 3 rounds in with Mike Hammer 🙃

[@bencornah6126]

I live about 5 minutes away from this junction in Hazel Grove and almost everyone I know has had issues there before. The “shared space” area and oddly shaped double mini roundabouts always lead to problems. Doesn’t surprise me seeing this

[@notmenotme614]

I wonder what the police outcome will be

[@PedroConejo1939]

Nil.

[@Strider9655]

If the cammer admits to giving the finger, they'll just blame the cammer.

[@Yawbus1976]

They'll be straight down to Wickes to buy some more kneepads.

[@carlh429]

What is it with some Audi and BMW drivers?

[@ClaireYunFarronXIII]

What is it with these bad drivers? Period.

[@Richard_Barnes]

As an S3 driver I did 😂 at this comment, Carl H. However I hear ya. Even when I see it myself I say to my wife, “look at that idiot, another one giving Audi’s a bad name” haha. But yeah, there are a lot of bad drivers around and I’m afraid, the young males’ ego’s won’t take it.

[@Pinie-ue9mz]

I have spotted some road rages where some Audi and BMW drivers lose

[@MrRohanThomas]

Thinking their special lmao

[@johndd9140]

😂 Coz they think they own the road, that's why!

[@tommyneil303]

Ashley you gonna do a video on your take on the changes for driving instructors

[@benbowhay9448]

i used to live in that area, that junction is absolutely awful, no one has a clue what’s going on and the vast majority of time it’s utter bedlam

[@LordGhost.]

Nobody is getting out their car like that and walking up to me. I would've put him back in his car. People like this need a lesson cause he wont be doing that to a police car...

[@Keithbarber]

I advocate self-defence but to get out and square up to them is lowering your standards - do what the cammer did and drive off and let the other guy look the idiot The old saying is "it takes a man to walk away" and whilst driving be the bigger man and drive away

[@dark_memer42]

Another bully. I guess he got a look at the driver and thought he can intimidate. Wonder how many times the 'bully' has had his ass kicked, a few i reckon. Looks like they robbed him of his style and class too.

[@kal9001]

@@Keithbarber While I generally agree. That is also akin to the kid glove approach. Sometimes people really do need the old fashioned treatment or else you'll be forever dealing with attitudes like this.

[@Keithbarber]

@@dark_memer42 keyboard warrior talk? Usual "I would knock him out" attitude

[@LordGhost.]

@@Keithbarber but im a guy whos built different. If someone pisses me off like that cause i have 0 tolerance for stupidity, so at that point the whole saying of "driving off makes you the bigger man" just goes out the window and i will show that guy his place no matter who he is. Thats just my character

[@BlueSummers101]

@1:28 lol the second I saw he was older that 15 and still wearing a baseball cap told me everything I need to know about this childish tool. everything that followed from this point on reinforced my opinion on this buffoon

[@charliefreck]

Shot me now. I'm 48 and own over 40 baseball caps.

[@whichwasher2007]

This is very close to where I live and so I have been over that double roundabout and it is a stupid design. One bigger roundabout would have been better. It replaced a set of traffic lights. About 15 years ago. Initially they put 2 huge rocks (litterl rocks) in the middle of each roundabout which subsequently caused accidents at night of cars just ploughing into them as they were unlit. And HGVs getting stuck going round them as they made the turn to tight.

[@ben11409995]

I live not far from poynton and this shared space always makes me feel nervous. Although they are clearly signposted as roundabouts very few people use them this way. Not talking about people just confusing them with drive-overabouts but also often going the wrong way round

[@darronian4951]

This reminds me of an incident years ago ,when my older brother, myself,and a couple of mates were in my brothers 2cv driving down a country lane and a guy in a Honda crx decided to overtake opposite a junction and cut us off, my brother then flashed him once with his high beam to let him know he'd done something daft, however afterwards he then slammed on his brakes, smoke came from his tyres and then he proceeded to crawl in front of us, because we were only in a 2cv, my brother wasn't stupid enough to try and overtake, after like 5 to 10 mins he sped off, and turned left at the junction further ahead, we then got to the junction and turned right, travelling down another country road for a couple of miles and got to another junction and went to turn left, when the Honda appears out of know where and cuts in front again, my brother flashes him once more and when he gets to the roundabout and fly's around it 3 or 4 times squealing his tyres ,smoke everywhere and then shoots off, we then carry on our way, my brother then says, that is why I try not to react to bad drivers , and then says what just happened is the reason why!

[@paulcollyer801]

Should have gone off road & let the crx try to follow; 2cvs are surprisingly good off road.

[@darronian4951]

@@paulcollyer801 I know, my brother went up a steep embankment on one side to see if it would struggle or destabilise it, it coped quite well, easy to work on too.

[@paulcollyer801]

@@darronian4951, it was actually the winner of a design competition, the design criteria, cheap, reliable, able to go across a muddy field with 2 bales of hay in the back.

[@darronian4951]

@@paulcollyer801 popular amongst farmers in France I believe.

[@paulcollyer801]

@@darronian4951, well, Twas them that its designed for after all lol

[@HO-bndk]

Surely "thou shalt not one-finger salute other road users over trivia" should be one of the 10 commandments of "defensive driving".. And.. "wet wipe"? 😂

[@jhdore]

“Lanky streak of piss” would probably result in demonetisation…

[@FowlorTheRooster1990]

Why are there so many funny comments on topics like this, one minute it is some idiot driving down an active railway line on a jeep with the news articles comments being train jokes, to this!

[@BelgianCat]

Out of context, and sorry for my ignorance: How come the red car at 2:03 is giving way? In Belgium, if there are no (prior) signs controlling priority, then it's always yield to right. so I'm assuming in the UK it's yield to left. Is that so in the UK? and if so, why is he then giving way to people coming from his right?

[@egcd9956]

These are not double mini roundabouts. They are not roundabouts at all. Ashley is wrong. It is an unmarked junction in line with the highway code. Everyone has equal priority.

[@derekheeps1244]

@@egcd9956 The advance direction sign shows it as a double roundabout ; so most people would expect one and treat it as such .

[@devilslotz2798]

Ive had a few confrontations similar to this, but didnt drive off, stood my groud and most are all bark when you shout at them and match there response, but i shouldnt do it, but i see red too. If ive caused an issue when driving i apologise and it usually calms the situation.

[@ollieb9875]

Guy runs like a pansy, bet he got flushed a couple of times at school. Now he's bought a secondhand shit box and reckons to rule the roost 🤣 As for venturing on to the pavement.. I agree in this case and seeing as it's fairly unoccupied fair enough.

[@autojam3615]

What's your thoughts on proposed new changes to the highway code?

[@StephenElves]

Many years ago I had a similar situation (well before dashcams) I was driving a rather crappy Ford Sierra estate and the knobhead that got out and started kicking my door left his door wide open. Well I only had one route out of the situation.......

[@micheals1992]

I made a mistake yesterday. I used the correct right lane to go straight on at the roundabout but the roundabout to turn right was grid locked. I stopped behind the traffic, I checked my mirrors and looked through my rear port hole window. I moved slightly to go into the left lane and heard a horn to which I instantly stopped when I heard it. A guy appeared next to me with both his fingers stuck up and shouted some foul words. I hadn't gone into the lane but I'm more bothered that I didn't see him and for the life of me I don't know where he came from. The only thing I can think is that the 3 door Aygo has very small rear passenger windows and he was behind the rear pillar when I checked my blind spot, which obviously wasn't enough. There was quite a long delay before he appeared next to my car, so it could also be possible he was a way off but was "telling me off" for changing my mind despite the fact I would have been moving into the left lane anyway once I'd passed the junction as he obviously used the left lane which is marked left turns only and he went straight on. I think next time I find myself in that situation I think I'll just wait till the traffic blocking the roundabout moves as visibility isn't great in my car.

[@keithwilliams1243]

I was in a similar situation many years ago, I was giving a young man a lift at the time. In the passenger footwell was a few tools including a sledge hammer with a broken handel, the handel being about eighteen inches long. The road rage man overtook me and stopped blocking my way and got out of his van and approched me he was much bigger than me with a claw hammer in his hand. I later found out he had a reputaion for being a local hard man. I opened my door and my passenger said watch out he's got a hammer. I said I don't give a fvck, iv'e got a bigger hammer and I picked it up and got out and faced him. On seeing I had a hammer as well and a bigger one and I was facing him the big coward went back to his van and drove away. Regarding the skinny weasel in the video, I don't think a big hammer would have been neccesary, just getting out would have been enough to make him think twice. Nine times out of ten cowardly bullys back down when faced.

[@burgersnchips]

I've had people try to follow me home before, but I know the area well enough and just drive around in circles until they give up.

[@PedroConejo1939]

Definitely. When I was very much younger, someone did follow me home and land a couple on me - all because I'd stopped prior to making a right turn and it prevented him from passing another car. A painful way to learn never to drive home if someone's following you.

[@derekheeps1244]

I'd have to admit to being apt , long ago , to sounding horns , flashing lights or making hand gestures at people who did something like that on the road , but like most people I got wise to it and now avoid those situations . Mind you , I do think there are plenty of people who would've got out and flattened that skinny little runt of his litter ; and if he'd damaged my car , I might have been one of them .

[@mssparkssie]

Wow this is really scary. You never know what lunatics are out there and what they're carrying. The driver did a great job escaping.

[@amac2573]

Looking at these road rage incidents suggests to me that a lot of these people have narcissistic traits. They have to be right and superior, cannot admit to mistakes, having flaws, etc. So they avoid taking responsibility and blame other people for things that go wrong. They are very competitive but can't handle lossing. You may want to have a look at a few of Dr Ramani's videos for more details about these antagonistic people.

[@Mac-rf5wf]

When the guy goes on the path - if this exact sceario happened on a driving test, what would be the outcome? Would you automatically fail because you've mounted the pavement or would the fact that you are trying to get out of danger be taken into consideration?

[@AJPemberton]

This was answered in the video.

[@mrfoameruk]

Yesterday I was thinking of getting a rearview cam as I already have a dashcam. Decided not to...After watching this video again on the lookout for one.

[@andyday8140]

At double mini-roundabouts treat each roundabout separately and give way to traffic from the right. Multiple roundabouts. At some complex junctions, there may be a series of mini-roundabouts at each intersection. Treat each mini-roundabout separately and follow the normal rules.

[@andrewolgado6018]

I had something similar, but as a cyclist. I was cycling in a 20 zone and driver kept honking at me even though there was no room for him to pass. Even if I pulled right to the side of parked cars, there was no way he could fit. I gave him the finger and he was really triggered by that. The car driver was really threatening me by driving up to the back of my bike and when he could pass, he nearly knocked me completely off my bike cutting me up. I had to swerve hard to avoid his car.

[@mxdoug]

Agree with Ashley, we have all made hand gestures and then instantly regretted it but this audi driver takes it to another level

[@fatwalletboy2]

Good advice on keeping the gestures to yourself.....yes strange the audi lost 2 secinds earlier but then persisted and lost 10 mins chasing the cammer.....buy look at him.he probably wasnt really heading anywhere and more than likely created that situation for him to seize on it. Good avoidance driving though.....quite funny seeing him running everywhere.

[@andrewbaxter9395]

I live in Poynton and that roundabout causes no end of grief from drivers who dither to those that just fly over it regardless of priority.

[@egcd9956]

These are not double mini roundabouts. They are not roundabouts at all. Ashley is wrong. It is an unmarked junction in line with the highway code. Everyone has equal priority.

[@matthewcuthbertson3811]

I go through that junction all the time, it’s not the first time I’ve seen something bad go on but never seen anything like that… some right people about 🤷‍♀️

[@thewaywardgrape3838]

I'm off the mind that if the threat is still there after I diffuse and leave the first time, the second time ends with the threat being physically put down. I won't be bullied into fleeing by a random bloke and no one else should have to wonder about such people pursuing them home.

[@MrBlueWRX]

They are always in an Audi, DE06LGX is currently SORN'd and the MOT expired in April.

[@allanmanley6340]

I (not from UK) came across one of those "double" roundabouts on a trip to the UK and was totally stumped by what I must do. We never had those in my old country (S.Africa) nor in the Netherlands; I have driven across Australia and never seen them there either. If I was designing that road I would have placed one large oval roundabout that foreigners would understand.