Push It REAL GOOD!...9MM Starfire vs Interceptor Carbine Self-Defense AMMO Test!

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Tools&Targets

Tools&Targets

2 ай бұрын

They may not be designed for a carbine length barrel, but what can you expect if you run em from one? You might be surprised at the results! Heavy clothing ballistic gel test using a Henry Homesteader!
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@valorous314
@valorous314 2 ай бұрын
Ever since my favorite KZbinr who used to do ballistic testing stepped back, I've been looking for someone serious, professional and entertaining to carry on the torch. You sir, accomplish all three. Thank you!
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 ай бұрын
Appreciate that!😎👊
@sinisterthoughts2896
@sinisterthoughts2896 2 ай бұрын
Out of curiosity, who was that?
@donakahorse
@donakahorse 2 ай бұрын
Paul?
@joemarchinski914
@joemarchinski914 2 ай бұрын
Our entire extended community family respects and misses Paul Harrell... grateful he is still with us ❤️🤍💙🇺🇸👍
@thomastune776
@thomastune776 2 ай бұрын
Paul Harrel, Gun Sam and Tools &Targets. (Disregard the order) lol
@JJ_SDWR
@JJ_SDWR 2 ай бұрын
Good stuff Tools. Would love to see some HST/Gold Dot/Critical Duty through the rifle length barrel. Awesome stuff!
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 ай бұрын
😎👊
@mattjensen73
@mattjensen73 2 ай бұрын
I believe he did test 9mm +p 124gr and 135gr critical duty from the rifle length barrel
@cgsimons1187
@cgsimons1187 2 ай бұрын
The lighter Speer(such as Gold Dots) tend to get some very nice velocity gains from a Ruger PCC. When they are +P they are moving about the speed of a .357 Mag bullet from a revolver. Though how the bullets would hold up at that velocity(especially at close-range) would be interesting to find out. Another bullet that might be interesting to see is the (9BP)9mm 115gr Federal Hi Shok. That appears to be the standard pressure version of the renown (9BPLE)Federal LE 115gr +P+. If the carbine boosts the velocity significantly, it might essentially cause the standard pressure bullet to perform like the 9BPLE does from a handgun.
@MB-jg4tr
@MB-jg4tr 2 ай бұрын
HST uses fast burning powder, so it doesn't gain any speed past around 6" barrel, in fact it looses speed
@kennethferguson4283
@kennethferguson4283 2 ай бұрын
@@cgsimons1187 I carry a 357 Sig. With standard velocities between 1350 and 1400 fps with 125gr bullets I don't worry about +P. LOL
@savage5128
@savage5128 2 ай бұрын
The interceptor expansion never ceases to amaze me!!
@deerawson3610
@deerawson3610 2 ай бұрын
For long guns I do my testing at 13 yards.. That is the Longest shot I can take within my home.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 ай бұрын
😎👊
@kevinramsey4673
@kevinramsey4673 2 ай бұрын
If they could tweak that Interceptor to penetrate 15" that'd be a game changer. I'm glad they've got Starfire's acting better. Great test Tools.
@hoffpbass
@hoffpbass 2 ай бұрын
Love seeing the Carbine at 28 yards. That's about exactly the distance from my backdoor to the alley (city living). And Taco Bell Hits the Fan from back there once in a while. And I know those fools are armed. BTW: excellent shooting those 2 shots into the gel. Couldn't get more accurate with that placement. I second another viewers comment - would love to see some elite 9mm brands from the same distance. Thanks Tools 👍
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 ай бұрын
Thank you sir.😎👊
@johnanderson3405
@johnanderson3405 2 ай бұрын
Very impressive from both rounds. I can’t get over how much that PMC looks like a Federal HST! Wow!
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 ай бұрын
It really does.
@patriotpreacher43
@patriotpreacher43 2 ай бұрын
🎼 Home, home on the range, where the HP’s and the jelly blocks play…🎵…where seldom is heard a discouraging word (unless it’s about under powered 10mm)!😂
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@timrobinson6573
@timrobinson6573 2 ай бұрын
You, Paul Harrell and PoliceActivity are the channels I click as soon as I see a new video.
@DestindKnee
@DestindKnee 2 ай бұрын
Love Police Activity. When Cops went away I started watching that channel as a replacement
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 ай бұрын
I don't know if I've seen that one.
@timrobinson6573
@timrobinson6573 2 ай бұрын
@@ToolsandTargets It's bodycam/dashcam footage from police encounters. Mostly shootings and car chases. Another good channel in that genre is VideoLeakPolice,
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 ай бұрын
@@timrobinson6573 Ahh ok, I've probably watched some of their stuff then. I watch quite a few of those type channels but never paid attention to the names.😆
@themoe6701
@themoe6701 2 ай бұрын
Yep. I add the Active Self Protection channel to those you mentioned
@lonewanderer3603
@lonewanderer3603 2 ай бұрын
I really like these pcc tests. That ballistic machinist round carving a 1" hole is impressive, but I'd rather have deeper penetration for HD.
@googleeyeseyes4033
@googleeyeseyes4033 Ай бұрын
I tested that SFX with eight layers out of Glock G19 and got spectacular expansion consistently, great stuff at a great price.
@jdk_360
@jdk_360 Ай бұрын
I was just looking up the Starfire because it looks exactly like HST and found this quote. “If you are not familiar with the Starfire line, it has been around for several decades. The bullet was designed by Tom Burczynski. Burczynski is the designer of several major bullet designs including the Hydra-Shok, Expanding Full Metal Jacket and HST used by Federal”. I guess that explains it.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Ай бұрын
Yep
@steelpunisher6944
@steelpunisher6944 2 ай бұрын
Boy that Starfire really is a good looking round opened up like that. That was perfect performance. And that Interceptor sure would cause a whole lot of bleeding 🩸. But not enough penetration for me to be comfortable. Awesome test as always! 👍🇺🇸🇺🇸
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 ай бұрын
💥😎👊💥
@timrobinson6573
@timrobinson6573 2 ай бұрын
If it's inexpensive then it would be good for someone using a 9mm carbine.
@steelpunisher6944
@steelpunisher6944 2 ай бұрын
@@timrobinson6573 … absolutely 👍. It would definitely do the trick.
@Khanclansith
@Khanclansith 25 күн бұрын
30 meters for "Self Defense " against 4 legged predators is not unheard of.
@ogbobbye
@ogbobbye 2 ай бұрын
I think 12 to 15 yds would be a more realistic self defense distance from my bedroom to the front door is just over 10 yards. unless you are returning fire 20 yds, and over would be hard to justify self defense wise. moot point though because they did great at 28 yds. so I guess they would do the same at 10 to 15 yards.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 ай бұрын
Yeah, that's my problem with testing anything with a 16" barrel so close. Not much question it's gonna do good unless it's beyond trash.
@jasonkeating9958
@jasonkeating9958 2 ай бұрын
So basically you need to repeat this test for a 3rd time at 10 feet to get the answer lol
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 ай бұрын
10 yards is too close for me to worry about a 16 incher.
@cgsimons1187
@cgsimons1187 2 ай бұрын
It would be nice seeing a relatively close-range test for those who may consider using a carbine as a (inside)home defense weapon. Though this test he did today does finally confirm something I read in the past about shooting a PCC further down range. The bullets perform nearly the same as if they were fired from a pistol at something close range.
@misterfister7262
@misterfister7262 2 ай бұрын
I remember several years ago seeing a man drop a pos from point blank with what I believe was a ruger pc carbine, full length. Guy dropped with one shot and passed the room temperature test
@xK1llSw1tchx
@xK1llSw1tchx 2 ай бұрын
​@cgsimons1187 I asked for the same test at closer range as well, since at farther range your not getting the rifle velocity but pistol velocity in the gel.
@xK1llSw1tchx
@xK1llSw1tchx 2 ай бұрын
​​​@@misterfister7262the guy who shot his ex wife's husband On his porch?
@raybo34
@raybo34 2 ай бұрын
Those Interceptors do what the Norma MHPs can't. Great round if that's what you want. I ran Starfires back in the 90s about the time of the Black Talon controversy. That is what I look for in ammo.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 ай бұрын
Yep. They got the expansion figured out.
@Tim.Black13
@Tim.Black13 2 ай бұрын
It's jelly time! Heck yeah brother, thanks for the upload!
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 ай бұрын
😎👊
@CreasyEQ
@CreasyEQ 2 ай бұрын
​@@ToolsandTargetsTop notch 9mm ammo 🤝🏾
@clinkerclint
@clinkerclint 2 ай бұрын
Great idea shooting from the longer barrel. I think more interesting data could be gleaned from shooting closer, think inside the house kind of range. Would be interested in seeing what some of these rounds do when pushed a little harder than maybe they were designed to be pushed. Great video as always!!!!!
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 ай бұрын
Thank you sir. I think I need to do a poll for the distance. Seems like a lot of people think closer would be better.
@RL-RL
@RL-RL 2 ай бұрын
Very good and cool test. Both did the job very well. You asked about using a carbine @ 28 yards, well yea, if someone is poking around and maybe further, these would be great for that. Nice to hear the steel ring out @100 yards!
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 ай бұрын
Thank you sir.😎👊
@GunsBlazingRanch
@GunsBlazingRanch 2 ай бұрын
Great video. That’s crazy expansion.
@Bob.W.
@Bob.W. 2 ай бұрын
Love carbine length tests. Thx. Subscribed. I'm in my 70s and you talk faster than I think, lol. 😂
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 ай бұрын
😂 Thank you sir!
@Adam-nv9zo
@Adam-nv9zo 2 ай бұрын
The expanded starfire looks similar to an expanded HST. I've still got a box of the Starfire in .380 that I bought almost 25 years ago.
@davehansen3217
@davehansen3217 2 ай бұрын
Fantastic video as always. Lots of love from CT.
@scarifrougeone7225
@scarifrougeone7225 2 ай бұрын
Nice, great testing with the 9mm Carbine. Both ammo’s performed as advertised. Really nice to see the Carbine length and the pistols length match up pretty good at 28 yards. Nice testing TNT 🧨. I thought the petals would have peeled off on the Interceptor. Distance is good. Results matched up well. Thanks for sharing and be safe. 🇺🇸⭐️⭐️🇺🇸👍
@DestindKnee
@DestindKnee 2 ай бұрын
CCI, please take notes from this video on what expansion looks like....and it didnt need some VERY speciic settings to work
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 ай бұрын
😂
@stevenmiller184
@stevenmiller184 2 ай бұрын
You might enjoy shooting a .40 Smith and Wesson in a carbine. .40 gains a LOT in a longer barrel. 10mm velocities and more. I have a Sub 2000 and a Beretta CX4 in .40... they really whack the steel.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 ай бұрын
I actually have a Ruger Police Carbine in .40S&W. definitely plan to do some tests with it. I gotta grab a set of rings to slap me a little optic on.
@Hanover_Fist
@Hanover_Fist 2 ай бұрын
Damn Tools...that is interesting stuff. Thanks for going through all the trouble to apply you craft.
@MichaelFoster876
@MichaelFoster876 2 ай бұрын
i think you should do more 9mm - 10mm 40.- 45. ,357 - 44. mag carbine testing 🙏
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 ай бұрын
I definitely plan to.😎👊
@ronaldbarnes8302
@ronaldbarnes8302 2 ай бұрын
Nice test Tools! Cool to see how they work out of a carbine. The Starfire looks good out of a duty sized or longer barrel. The Interseptor hits hard but needs to go further. Thanks for the test!
@ldjb8648
@ldjb8648 2 ай бұрын
That's some fine performance outta that rifle! Thanks for the intel dude!
@CT15MK18
@CT15MK18 2 ай бұрын
That interceptor is what the norma monolithic is supposed to do...lol
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 ай бұрын
Yep
@leroycaudill96
@leroycaudill96 2 ай бұрын
Good video Tools This is the channel I watch for no bull on anything you test love the honest videos have a great weekend and God Bless.
@ChasingZero-gm4sf
@ChasingZero-gm4sf 2 ай бұрын
Distance is fine, nice to see expansion on that starfire.
@semichiganandy2127
@semichiganandy2127 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for this test. The Starfire's penetration is excellent under these conditions..
@beesod6412
@beesod6412 2 ай бұрын
You never disappoint, I really wanted to see the 9mm Interceptor, I really appreciate it brother, Thank you!
@williambaker1753
@williambaker1753 2 ай бұрын
With some ammo especially ammo designed for short barrels the powder burns too fast and burns up before the projectile leaves the barrel and then the friction starts killing the velocity. When I first got my carbine I figured all ammo would greatly increase in velocity but that's not always the case. It took a little research for me to understand why I wasn't getting crazy high velocitys with all ammo. Good video let's people know not all ammo is designed to be fired out a carbine.
@YellowHammer26
@YellowHammer26 2 ай бұрын
👍👍 great test tools, really good to see what ammo does out of a carbine .
@bobg.8954
@bobg.8954 2 ай бұрын
Very nice expansion and another awesome test. Great job T! Will definitely be picking some of this up. Take Care Sir.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 ай бұрын
Thank you sir.😎👊
@ratagris21
@ratagris21 2 ай бұрын
No one does Jelly Time testing any better than Tools! Thanks for all the testing and viewers who are contributing to the channel. Thanks for showing us the way. ♠️🎩🎯🎱🇺🇲🏁🇮🇱🇺🇦🔱🌻🏵️🌸💮🌼🏴‍☠️🏹
@ratagris21
@ratagris21 2 ай бұрын
Starfires look like a beautiful flower 🌼🌸
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 ай бұрын
Appreciate ya, brother!😎👊
@guardianminifarm8005
@guardianminifarm8005 2 ай бұрын
Interesting results as often. I am not too interested in the interceptor being shallow but it did jack things up good for 8". I wouldn't want one sunk anywhere in me. But the Starfire did a good job. Thank you.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 ай бұрын
😎👊
@VivereLiberumSeuMori
@VivereLiberumSeuMori 2 ай бұрын
Man, I'm so glad I found this channel great content brother!! Keep on sending it!
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 ай бұрын
Thank you sir. Appreciate that!😎👊
@daviddurbin9802
@daviddurbin9802 2 ай бұрын
Great test! Not sure that I’ll ever run self defense rounds thru my S&W FPC, but it’s nice to see! Keep creating content for us, it helps in making decisions for purchasing ammunition!!
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 ай бұрын
Thank you sir.😎👊
@orangecrush5512
@orangecrush5512 2 ай бұрын
Some folks binge watch "The Golden Bachelor"........some folks binge watch "Tools& Targets".
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 ай бұрын
50% of those people are making the right choice!😎👊
@caleb6988
@caleb6988 2 ай бұрын
I definitely like the results from both of these freedom seeds. Fantastic test session brother tools.
@rangetime6779
@rangetime6779 2 ай бұрын
I really like seeing your carbine testing. Please continue doing more. Some ammo will gain a lot of velocity while others won't. Getting to see the difference and subsequent gel performance is great.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 ай бұрын
Would you rather see it done at 10 yards or where this is at 28?
@tweedeldee8122
@tweedeldee8122 2 ай бұрын
Can't get Salt-N-Pepa outta my head now. Another great video tho! Thank you! Push it!
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 ай бұрын
😂
@DanaN43
@DanaN43 2 ай бұрын
Nice, like the carbine length tests
@DougCutler-tn2ey
@DougCutler-tn2ey 2 ай бұрын
Love the PCC tests. My preferred home defender is a PCC in .40 A friend of a friend used my 40 and 45 cal carbines to test. When it comes to velocity, he claims the 40 benefitted more from the longer barrel than a 9 and the 45 benefitted less. I'm not sure he was comparing apples to apples however.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 ай бұрын
I can believe that. I have a Ruger Police Carbine in .40S&W that I gotta start getting some testing done with.😎👊
@robmey7254
@robmey7254 2 ай бұрын
Personally what ever you pick, keep it consistent from one video to another. Nothing I hate more about comparison video (could be comparing anything) is when they are a apple to orange comparison even by the same person. And that's one reason I enjoy your videos because you keep it as close to apples to apples for a average KZbinr without turning it in some NASA level science experiment.
@Bob-lq9ys
@Bob-lq9ys 2 ай бұрын
Very good test with good results, the interceptor may not get the depth but that would be one hell of a hole. Thanks for sharing brother
@mcburcke
@mcburcke 2 ай бұрын
PMC makes decent factory pistol ammo as far a reliability goes, but they are becoming known for boolits that do not expand at normal velocities. I have tested some of their 180gr semi-jacketed hollow point in 44 mag, and the lead formulation they're using is very hard. As a consequence, it acts like an FMJ with exposed lead even at the fairly high fps they generate. They really don't expand.
@victormaya2610
@victormaya2610 2 ай бұрын
Great vid like always i love your ballistic tests i would like to see a 9mm defiant munitions vs 9mm G9 ammo test to me thats best of the best 9mm all copper ammo out right now for a personal carry size pistol or carbine.
@g54b95
@g54b95 2 ай бұрын
I see the value of testing both the pistol and the carbine at 10 yards with these ammos. If you are carrying this as your EDC gun ammo, you'll know what it'll do. If you have this in your 9mm PCC as a home defense option, you'll know what it'll do.
@Dwayne7834
@Dwayne7834 2 ай бұрын
Another good gel test. Thanks for sharing 👍🇺🇸
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 ай бұрын
Thank you sir.😎👊
@xringarcher1440
@xringarcher1440 Ай бұрын
28 yards might not be self-defense distance, but you could certainly say it is deer hunting distance if one was to use a 9mm carbine to hunt with, which is certainly possible. Granted, I don’t believe either of these ammo options would be what I would choose to hunt with, but there’s gotta be some options that you could try if you put your mind on the task of finding suitable 9mm whitetail-getters
@mikes1097
@mikes1097 2 ай бұрын
Another great video - informative and entertaining .. you check all the boxes as always
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 ай бұрын
Thank you sir. Appreciate that!😎👊
@randyduncan795
@randyduncan795 2 ай бұрын
I was hoping to keep that song forgotten! Thanks for the great presentation!
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 ай бұрын
😂
@timothyellis596
@timothyellis596 Ай бұрын
One on the most useful and entertaining channels. Bravo Sir
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Ай бұрын
Appreciate that!😎👊
@boostimalaka1
@boostimalaka1 2 ай бұрын
Those Starfire bullets were terrible in performance back in the 90’s. PMC lost to the very popular Federal Hydrashok in the Self Defense market.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 ай бұрын
These seem to do pretty good as long as they're not out of a shorty barrel.
@jamesmarkov9570
@jamesmarkov9570 2 ай бұрын
I would say 10 yards is a good max distance for the carbine self defense wise. A long hallway etc or large room.
@Greg_Ashley
@Greg_Ashley 2 ай бұрын
Nice work as usual. Keep up the great work.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 ай бұрын
Thank you sir. Appreciate that.😎👊
@joemokrzycki2006
@joemokrzycki2006 2 ай бұрын
The PMC did really well I just figured it was range ammo
@williamlowe2046
@williamlowe2046 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for doing testing on PCC ammo.
@ericbergfield6451
@ericbergfield6451 2 ай бұрын
Yay, both bullets provided fantastic results
@kennethferguson4283
@kennethferguson4283 2 ай бұрын
Watching ammo tests like this on youtube just reminds me to be very thankful that my primary SD caliber is 357 Sig.
@kevinrichardson8859
@kevinrichardson8859 2 ай бұрын
Honestly from the KZbin "research " and tests...there is no better carry round than 357sig...it checks all the boxes... high velocities...high energies...high penetration..accuracy...quick recoil with low muzzle rise
@kennethferguson4283
@kennethferguson4283 2 ай бұрын
@@kevinrichardson8859 Very true!
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 ай бұрын
Very nice round. It would be nice to see new gun support for it but it aint lookin good.🤷‍♂️
@kevinrichardson8859
@kevinrichardson8859 2 ай бұрын
@ToolsandTargets I support it my friend ...after all my research...it's the BEST for protecting me and mine!!! I don't cut corners when it comes to me and my family's personal safety...I WANT THE BEST! & the 357sig IS the best of the BEST carry round! ( for me) I want EVERY advantage I can get @
@kennethferguson4283
@kennethferguson4283 2 ай бұрын
@@kevinrichardson8859 LOL Have you ever seem a police shootout on youtube where the 357 Sig was used and it was stated that a mag dump was needed? Answer never. I have seem about a half dozen videos where the 357 Sig was used and half of those were COM one shot stops the perps dropped so fast the officers didn't have time to get a second shot. If the 357 Mag was still being used by LEA it would have the same results.
@chrissinclair4442
@chrissinclair4442 2 ай бұрын
Lehigh Extreme Defense in +P or +P+ would be real interesting out of that...
@williamgaines9784
@williamgaines9784 2 ай бұрын
They definitely aren't pulling that copper sunflower out without doing some cutting. I prefer the bullet poke on through to the other side, but deform as it is doing so. Those Starfires were okay.
@B_R_
@B_R_ 2 ай бұрын
Thanks
@garyklingler4681
@garyklingler4681 Ай бұрын
I would like to see the carbine tested at 25’-30’ . Keep up the great work.
@antonelloromeo2118
@antonelloromeo2118 2 ай бұрын
Good test my friend 🙂👍 Interesting +p and +p+ ammo into carabine test😊
@wadelucero6461
@wadelucero6461 2 ай бұрын
First I love the carbine and pcc tests it adds variety to data I would like to test done at same distance as pistols because at self defense distance some 9mm carbine can generate ft lbs equal to .357sig or basic 10mm also at closer distance it gives more data about bullet limitation regarding fragmentation and over expansion we have tons of data as far as failing to expand because lack of velocity love all your tests 👍👍
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 ай бұрын
😎👊
@TheCrewChief374
@TheCrewChief374 2 ай бұрын
Yep they looked real good to me as well.
@rsbreeze
@rsbreeze 2 ай бұрын
Excellent test!
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 ай бұрын
Thank you sir.💥😎👊💥
@mozzberg590
@mozzberg590 2 ай бұрын
The PMC stuff might be the ticket.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 ай бұрын
😎👊
@l.a.3887
@l.a.3887 2 ай бұрын
Another great test as usual 👌 👍🇺🇸
@themoe6701
@themoe6701 2 ай бұрын
More Carbine! Yay! I think the +P and +P+ is the way to get the most out of a long barrel. With that said, the starfire did great. I'm not a fan of the huge expansion limited penetration rounds except in very specific environments. Great test as always!
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 ай бұрын
thank you sir.😎👊
@mikenephilly
@mikenephilly 2 ай бұрын
Unfotunately, the Interceptor jammed multiple times in my Kiger 9C (Glock 19 clone, 3.91 inch barrell) while I was testing it. I'm disappointed because I wanted this to be my carry round with the massive expansion. I've settled on Hornady Critical Defense instead. I emailed Ballistic Machinist and they couldn't understand how it could happen, as they said they tested it in Glocks.
@alexandermfernandez9283
@alexandermfernandez9283 2 ай бұрын
I've got an old 80's Uzi carbine that I inherited , and I've always been curious as to how much speed you pick-up with the longer barrel . Glad you did this test , very informative .Thanks T&T , love your Channel !
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 ай бұрын
Nice! You need to just let me have that thing, so you don't have to keep an eye on it!😉
@alexandermfernandez9283
@alexandermfernandez9283 2 ай бұрын
@@ToolsandTargets As soon as my eyes get strained , ......it's all yours ! Love ya' bro !
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 ай бұрын
@@alexandermfernandez9283 😂 😎👊
@allenbolen9705
@allenbolen9705 2 ай бұрын
Definitely prefer the 124 sfx. 8 inches penetration is a no go for me! Interesting test thanks Tools 👍🏻!
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 ай бұрын
Thank you sir.😎👊
@Dave-ck8cf
@Dave-ck8cf 2 ай бұрын
Wow 😮 ❤. Excellent both of them
@Kross8761
@Kross8761 2 ай бұрын
The PMC starfire seems like an excellent budget round as long as you use it in a full size handgun or maybe a PCC at "home defense" distances. Out of something like an 8 inch barrel you _might_ even see slightly better velocity, because 16 inches might have been long enough that you were past the point of diminishing returns and friction may have been hurting more than the barrel length helped. MAYBE. out of a CZ Skorpion or an MP5 sized gun with an 7.5-8 inch barrel that would be a pretty solid budget home defense round.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 ай бұрын
Funny you mention both of those guns in particular...
@ilikepineapples7835
@ilikepineapples7835 2 ай бұрын
Another good'n. Thanks again
@addytuney2028
@addytuney2028 2 ай бұрын
Thanks Tools!
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 ай бұрын
😎👊
@therichie9916
@therichie9916 2 ай бұрын
Would be nice to see the Fed Punch from the carbine.
@billblue4710
@billblue4710 2 ай бұрын
Past 15 yards would be pretty rare for self defense. But crazy people can cause you to have to have to do more so it’s better to know.
@williamgaines9784
@williamgaines9784 2 ай бұрын
If you are in your home and somebody across or down the street is lobbing rounds into it, you can certainly justify returning fire beyond 28 yards.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 ай бұрын
😎👊
@thomastune776
@thomastune776 2 ай бұрын
Excellent info and entertaining 👍
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 ай бұрын
Thank you sir.😎👊
@treetop.garage
@treetop.garage 2 ай бұрын
Looks good buddy
@147CombatMedic
@147CombatMedic 2 ай бұрын
Fun test! I picked up some AAC with XTP a while back to run in an AKV and an AR9. It would be interesting to see if they would perform better out of carbine length vs what they did with pistol length barrels. Thanks for the vid! 💥👍💥
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 ай бұрын
What weight AAC did you grab and what length barrels do you use?
@147CombatMedic
@147CombatMedic 2 ай бұрын
I think the AKV is a 10.5 inch and the AR9 is a 16 inch. 124gr XTP. Took me a while to find them in my cluster. 😆 I should really get my ammo organized better sometime. 🤔... or shoot more often and use some up. I guess there are worse problems to be had. 😂
@147CombatMedic
@147CombatMedic 2 ай бұрын
I just tracked down and re-watched your 115 vs 124gr AAC comparison. The 124s I have should work just fine. It must be some other 124s I was thinking of. 🤔🤷‍♂️🤣
@bigtrev761
@bigtrev761 2 ай бұрын
🇦🇺😎👍Hey friend , that’s a nice little rifle. Great in 9 mm. The closest we could come to that is a lever action….POF Tombstone 16” $3150🙄… WOW I love the projectile results. More great products yeah😉👍….love the copper rds🏁… Happy weekend brother🇺🇸🏁
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 ай бұрын
Thank you sir.😎👊
@WayStedYou
@WayStedYou 2 ай бұрын
Or just get a rossi 357 magnum for 900 aud
@bigtrev761
@bigtrev761 2 ай бұрын
@@WayStedYou 🇦🇺😎👍I have a 38/357 mag Marlin. They were $1350 and since the scamdemic they are now $2100 in Australia… I do like the Rossi though, particularly the stainless steel one with wooden stock 🏁
@samskeet
@samskeet 2 ай бұрын
The wound channel is wicked from that star fire reminds me of the 357sig. Speaking of 357sig can you do some testing of the 357sig loud out of longer barrels maybe like 10in and up? I’d like to see if the increased velocities translate to better performance.
@peady64
@peady64 2 ай бұрын
MOMMA!!! The Jelly Contraption Guy is outside again!!! Can I go out and play with him!!!
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 ай бұрын
Be back before dark!😂
@Drgunzo616
@Drgunzo616 2 ай бұрын
Man I have an old box of Eldorado Starfire in .40 S&W that's twenty years old. Bought it at the same time as a Daewoo DH40. Sold the gun, still have the ammo.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 ай бұрын
Always weird to hear Daewoo and gun together.
@Drgunzo616
@Drgunzo616 2 ай бұрын
@@ToolsandTargets it wasn't a bad pistol. Paid $350 for it and it was my first handgun that wasn't a .22. Never any issues with it.
@williamray3101
@williamray3101 2 ай бұрын
I like my 25-35. Or my 30-30.125 year old 1894's.good power.😊
@LVbibby
@LVbibby 2 ай бұрын
Good info pmc is pretty impressive for the cost.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 ай бұрын
😎👊
@bmarquis3500
@bmarquis3500 2 ай бұрын
I'd request g9 defense ehp and ehp +p from this setup! Thanks
@A_Brit
@A_Brit 2 ай бұрын
I like the 16inch barrel testing. But I'd suggest you test the same ammo with different barrels side by side.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 ай бұрын
It was a tough call on using one ammo and two barrels or two ammo and one barrel.😆
@thetg2117
@thetg2117 2 ай бұрын
more carbine 9mm tests plz. I own 3 different length carbines. so I will take any bonus carbine coverage I can get. also in your experience, are the heavier 124, 147 ish better for rifle like 9mm tools?
@rjw261984
@rjw261984 2 ай бұрын
Great results from both. I would choose the Starfire though. 🇺🇸
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 ай бұрын
Same 😎👊
@SouthernShodan
@SouthernShodan 2 ай бұрын
Great test. I was also wondering how the copper bullet would do out of a carbine barrel.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 ай бұрын
Thank you sir.😎👊
@josephpacchetti5997
@josephpacchetti5997 2 ай бұрын
The Starfire is impressive, I don"t remember seeing them out of the G-17, Is there a +P version? Thanks Brian, Stay Safe. 👊🇺🇸
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 ай бұрын
Standard only I think.
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