Quake Champions Training - BETA Movement Tips inc. Strafe Jumping

[@No-ps3dp]

Loving the QC content Zy. Keep it up! If QC becomes popular I think this channel will blow up along wih it. Fingers crossed for you mate, if anyone deserves it on YT it's you.

[@RocketJumpNinja]

Thanks for the kind words!

[@kodemasterx]

Sort ya fringe out. He has gotten a few Ks subs this past week I stared to watch his old videos they are so good and instructive

[@somerandomchannel382]

Watching this . What got my attention was more that he felt force to do these "tutorial videos" when playing team death match ^^ @2:40 . I know you're alot better then your opponents and would cry if I was to face you. But I also love your thought process that you deliberately went into a team deathmatch got the score up so high that you could do this 20-30 seconds tutorial videos somewhere on the map without 1. getting killed. 2. not "damaging" the team score..as you've basically conquering them with double the amount, 40 vs 20. =)

[@RocketJumpNinja]

NOTE: I have Bethesda's permission to upload Quake Champions footage. If you are from Bethesda and have a concern, please contact the community manager for Australia. And to clarify, you have to hold your "jump" key down when going up a jump/bounce pad and be near the wall for the trick to work. Keep messing around with it, I'm sure you'll figure it out. Reminder - it's different for Nyx. I'm not sure if it works with all champions yet. Also apparently if you hold "crouch" on jump pads it's better... I still haven't managed to get it to work though: "You'll have an even faster lower recovery from the jump pad, and it works with all characters, regardless of special jump mechanics they may have like walljump." Still need a Quake Champions BETA key? Apparently if you sign up at quake.bethesda.net/ right now you should receive one immediately.

[@Pizzoots]

for slash's Q4 crouchsliding, the best way to turn and gain massive speed while doing it, is to hold forward and a strafe key and turn in that direction. just like you would if you were to strafe jump except you dont change directions. however when doing it this way, there is a little bit of a drift so you have to overcompensate when you turn. its the best way to do it and gives you much more speed. just to note, if you for whatever reason, whether it be jumping or falling off a ledge, leave the ground, you must repress crouch to slide again. slash is super underrated and her crouchsliding is extremely power. takes some practice obviously but its worth learning

[@RocketJumpNinja]

Nice, thanks for the clarification, think I got it mostly right, just need to practice it more.

[@MulekeTrairao]

I think the bounce pad jump trick doesn't work with Anarki. I tried to do it but no success.

[@RocketJumpNinja]

Muleke... try holding "duck" instead, apparently that works for all champions and is the better way to do it.

[@MulekeTrairao]

I'll try that. Thanks.

[@colinfury4264]

Congratz on 70k dude!

[@RocketJumpNinja]

Thanks Fury!

[@seanmcmunn88]

I totally agree with your comment about Overwatch. As a long time Unreal player I love the fast paced teleporting that gets you back into the fight as fast a possible, and in Overwatch it does feel very slow and with very little to do unless you play a specific hero that can modify their speed, like charging with Reinhardt

[@ZephyrinXirdal]

Strafejumping as a "minigame within the game" is just perfectly put! I never formulated it like that in my mind, but guess that I always felt exactly like it. :)

[@TheLogicalBeast]

"it gives you a challenge with the movement, so you'll have something to do on your way back to battle. Kinda like a mini game within a game" GREAT way of putting it Zy, now I feel motivated to work on strafe jumping. I've always had nice timing from playing rhythm games for like 4 years so it shouldn't be too difficult to nail the jump timing for me. And keep up the GOOD work on your videos man, I feel like you're helping me reach a zen like calm with gaming rather than "RAAAAAAARGH" when I lose.

[@civicsico1198]

God, I can remember trying to learn this back in the early quake days by only being able to read a FAQ or text file! Thank god for the internet now for people that don't know how to do this yet.

[@CarbonitePlays]

For anyone having trouble, you can hold your jump key down and it will automatically jump upon landing...found this out while playing Anarki a while ago - you can also use it while doing Anarki's style of "bunnyhop" movement (or for those old enough to remember, the Quakeworld movement style / Counter-Strike movement style) so if you're having difficulty getting your timing right just hold your jump key in when you want to make successive jumps.

[@Azzapp]

Love your vids man , Quake champions will shoot you to the top and it's definitely deserved , keep it up and record now more than ever.

[@Biggians00]

FYI crouch sliding on Slash doesn't require you to use the strafe keys once the slide is in action. You can do really sharp turns just by looking where you want to go while crouch sliding, it's what makes it such a strong ability. It allows you to carry your strafe momentum into a 90 degree turn around a door, or even near-180 turns if you're careful.

[@Kl4nked]

i love these kind of video, movement in quake is the key to advance to a superior tier, and your so right about being a mini game with in a game.

[@PeteAYOR]

This channel is the best source of tutorials for this game out there. I'm sure they'll help immensely those who have little experience with quake. We should do our best to advertise this channel to newer players.

[@zombiekush0896]

your videos is the best,i never seen more understandable and clean tutorials or videos in general!!

[@YuriLewd]

So I've been nearly exclusively playing Slash and her slide is seriously underused, it may feel a little awkward at first, but you can essentially make just about any turn and keep your momentum. Her special ability is also pretty great, pretty easy to sneak some easy kills in on some less experienced players and the change in direction can really help you get out of some tight situations.

[@DocBrewskie]

as someone who is totally new to quake these vids are killer.ty ty ty

[@MeeTonToE]

Anarki's air control nails the sweet spot for comfortable movement for me. You can combine this with his 5 second speed boost to pull off some interesting tricks.

[@Amitgatte]

nice one, i am new to quake as i have never played older version of quake and while playing BETA quake champions i was trying to bhop like in CS for example without W only A and D keys with strafing mouse in respective directions and i was wondering why the hell i wasnt going fast in quake then watched some old quake bhop tutorials and then i got it lol and now your video explains it more properly its a lot different.

[@RocketJumpNinja]

You should be using Anarki then... he has that movement (release forward, use strafe and mouse).

[@edwardstables5153]

Yeah, had the same. Was trying to apply the CS movement. It seemed to have a small improvement, but nothing like what I've seen other people manage.

[@Amitgatte]

oh alright, thanks for the info :) i have played only with Scalebearer and Visor till now. Ill play with Anarki tomorrow when BETA starts again.

[@thatguy9328]

Sorlag does too

[@MrMoldyMurder]

Exactly what I've tried as well.Turns out cs bhops are quite different :D.

[@kringkingen]

Great work Rocket Jump Ninja! I hope every new QC player watch this! Keep it up!

[@x3i4n]

Your videos are getting me hyped bro

[@n0va25000]

strafe is love, strafe is life

[@jdouci]

This was honestly the best strafe jumping tutorial I have ever seen.

[@mechiktaj]

Always been a UT guy myself, preferring its movement system over Quake's. But damn, your videos, explanations, and delivery are really top notch and might make me jump ship. Respect!

[@milutopaz3029]

You can actually hold down jump to do successive jumps. Not sure if it's slower or faster than doing it manually, but it's definitely consistent.

[@--Lam]

Instead of holding JUMP when going up a jump pad, hold CROUCH. Same effect for most champions, but perhaps saves you the accidental wall jump.

[@vergeofapathy]

If you just play Quake Champions, you don't really need to learn timing your jumps, because Quake Champions has real pogojumping. You can just hold down your jump key permanently for strafejumping. Which btw makes it a _lot_ easier to strafejump up stairs and ramps.

[@EternalDahaka]

Auto-bunnyhop is great for that. Timing jumps on stairs is tedious depending on the speed your moving.

[@yotornadoyo]

It's slower to hold jump though.

[@BhargavaMan]

Zy, I learned how to strafe jump in QL all because of your tutorials. So happy to see you do these for newer QC players as well! One quick question - in my time with the beta, I felt that the rocket launcher was waaayyy slower compared to QL, but no one else seems to be addressing this. Like, both the firing rate as well as rocket speed were just so damn slow! Was it just me? Am I going insane?!

[@ItsSNIPMick]

Thanks! This is exactly what I needed!

[@williamwhittick0021]

Loving the QC videos! Keep it up as always dude.

[@jendi56]

Zy, I love your content! Don't ever stop!

[@RocketJumpNinja]

Good to hear and I won't!

[@alfieminto8972]

There shouldn't be any debate on strafe jumping. It's great for the game as well as it increases the skill ceiling, which gaves players a higher incentive to stick around and get better.

[@Nudgarrobot]

Quake without strafe jumping wouldn't be Quake, anyway. It's one of the most important things to get right.

[@Fen-xo]

So much information in this video dude :) Just starting out with Quake and thank you for keeping it simple

[@twiinsnake]

All I would like to know is your thoughts, if any, about Sorlag and the other champions. I hope that kind of video comes out soon, keep making great Quake Champions videos.

[@gunt0r569]

great videos man. happy i found your channel. @ topic: i mainly play with the character Anarki, just because of his air control. it just feels like good old cpma movement, being able to go in any direction without the feeling of being hold back (which i have with the other characters, because i'm so used to cpma).

[@MeeTonToE]

Gunt0r Same reason why I play him. His air control also has nice synergy with the speed boost granted from his active. This allows you to pull some neat jumps. Only downside are his voice lines which are gradually growing on me.

[@gunt0r569]

Me and Slash are still totally BFFs.

[@JoeBear1]

Another great video. Can't wait to get back in the game Friday.

[@travismcavoy1260]

Love your video's. Also, is nice to hear a fellow Australian voice for once on YT.

[@KindOldRaven]

People will absolutely be blown away by Anarki or even Sorlag (that easy bhop-style movement of hers without holding forward after the initial (strafe-) jump around corners whilst maintaining speed

[@RocketJumpNinja]

Sorlag is such a big target... too easy to hit, so I don't want newer players using her yet.

[@KindOldRaven]

Got me my first few DM wins in a Quake game in... ever! ;) However I get your point and agree; I may be new to Quake but I'm not exactly new to fast shooters in general so that might have helped (a lot). Still so extremely happy they decided to include (eventhough mostly speed-capped) classic (but different styles of) Quake movement in this title :D

[@RocketJumpNinja]

Confirmed, Raven too pro. Yeah I think the champions idea can actually work... it will take time to balance, but it's good so far.

[@rafa4614]

Come on Ninja! Five minutes? You can't keep us addicted to your amazing content and just shot short vidoes like this :D

[@tedthecomando]

I agree with you about strafe jumping, the gaming community is way to want a quick fix anything they don't like or have to learn to deal with. I love Overwatch but that is my biggest complaint as well, we should leave alone bugs that could make the game better and add a bit more depth. Bugs can be beautiful mistakes that only add to a game just like like bunny hopping or wave dashing in melee.

[@orbb-teo]

I love these tutorials Zy! Keep it going!

[@RedH4wk13]

There are people against strafe jumping?

[@RocketJumpNinja]

Yeah we couldn't believe it either.

[@RedH4wk13]

smh

[@YourCRTube]

Because it is ultimately an exploit; and somewhat funny/stupid looking. Many (some) people want it to play like a "normal game", more casual and to limit the requirements to be a good player - this is a yet another thing, adding to the notoriously high skill ceiling in Quake.

[@Reydriel]

Strafe jumping has been a Quake thing for decades now >_>

[@devilishgriiin]

Well most of camper-strike players I encountered dislike this idea. :D

[@tswizzle2951]

soothing voice, clear instructions :)

[@MrShagification]

I feel you on the Overwatch sentiment. All these OW players, saying the game game has depth because there's a bunch of different characters. Old school shooters with no different characters have more depth and a higher skill ceiling than anything in OW. The only way I enjoyed OW for a while was using Soldier because he has a rocket jump mechanic.

[@V4mplr3]

The amount of skill it takes to play quake, compared to other FPS is just HUGE...

[@iWorldPlayzMC780]

I completely agree with your statement about strafe jumping. I can't just run back from spawn in Overwatch, I have to constantly keep jumping

[@xantraz]

Even easier way to start is to learn bunnyhopping. First, gain some speed, then hold jump button and stop pressing forward. You're keeping your momentum! Now, if you want to take a turn, press left/right and turn your mouse in the same direction (note: mouse movement should be smooth, not sharp and quick). Sorlag utilizes this one through his passive ability and is quite tanky, so it's the best champion to learn. Once you learn it, move to Anarki and become addicted to speed.

[@blartsampsin8633]

QC is incorporating all the different types of movement from quake games with different heros thats kinda sick

[@nilacof]

im so happy theres strategic movement i thought it was all getting phased out, definitely will buy this. also if you look up a bhop tutorial on cs or something you can optimize those strafe jumps way more.

[@f1amezof]

2:39 you need to hold "Crouch" instead of "jump", actually, for even lower jump altitude.

[@SRKZ3R0]

KEEP EM COMING!!

[@FranBunnyFFXII]

Nyx got nerfed to 320. Which is something they shouldn't have done but just for the record, she's 320 now.

[@RocketJumpNinja]

Ah, see... that's why I didn't want to do movement so soon, knew they were going to change things.

[@Choko4343]

Aww shiiiiiiii Where the sauce at though?

[@RocketJumpNinja]

+Siptermanens main website profiles.

[@lucianf7157]

I agree they should nerf Nyx to 320 and give Slash her 50 AP limit back or 320 speed also to her.

[@ihakker1416]

nope, it became 330 again

[@Reydriel]

They need to add a Rocketjumping and Strafe Jumping tutorial/practice map like they did in Quake Live, that would really be awesome. They will also have to do a tutorial on QW movement too, for Anarki (and maybe possibly an official DeFrag mode, please? :D)

[@johnnyrodriguez9913]

This is called bunny hopping. This is a Quake movement. I learned this playing Team Fortress Classic. Long live bunny hopping and this tutorial sir.

[@generalsnuse]

Great videos. Always wanted to learn quake but CS took all my time. Keep it up!

[@ZeroB4NG]

i actually learned something... i had no idea about the jump pad slow jump thing, the slide mechanic or the wall jump. i'll try that on the next possibility. take an upvote.

[@RocketJumpNinja]

Apparently crouching up jump pads is better... (hold crouch on your way up) still haven't got it working, but I'll put it in a video at some point. Thanks!

[@Mikey-ge4du]

For jumping, in quake Champions, you can hold down space, and you will immediately jump once you hit the ground.

[@aidensnacklad4178]

i found nyx to be the best out of them all, she just helps when i miss the jump and save myself from falling off a ledge

[@StickmanSham]

did anybody else catch how well the rocket jump graphic in the corner and the rocket jump ingame synced up at 0:07?

[@B1_GGS]

great tut I been sending this to all my friends learning quake

[@dvasfhbfgb]

Hey Zy! Can you show how did you hold your mice, tell us about your arm position on the table, about your mouse sens etc. I think it's really important for a good playing. Hope you read this and maybe use it for another video

[@cryoK]

Nice vid. Man I can't wait for CTF...probably coming after Sacrifice.

[@nickberg1973]

Very nice tutorial. Keep up EPIC work on the "raw" gameplay also as it is now called (nice one Bethesda)...^^

[@cosmic_gate476]

Finally you see what I saw with Nyx. At least all pros will use the same champion for dueling so it will be like older quakes.

[@i208khonsu]

Crouching while going up a jump pad will also stick you to the ground when you get to the top.; so no need to time it with Nyx.

[@technogrammaton]

Thanks RJN!! Didnt know a couple of things ( :

[@KairosJN]

Great and helpful video!

[@pierreandrewt1347]

great points about fun and ow!

[@Brunark]

Question from a noob coming into Quake. How does rocket jumping/launching speed compare to strafe jumping and other techniques? Coming from having played Tribes a lot more back then, I'm excited to see there are advanced movement techniques in here since I want to try getting into Quake after so much Overwatch.

[@fzzeke]

Great footage Zy! Will you be livestreaming (twitch or youtube) this weekend to give a good impression of QC? I think this is what QC really needs at this stage, because I am doubtfull that many of the flaws that we've been adressing since beta weekend 1 are suddenly all patched up.

[@masonandersen494]

I agree about overwatch, but Lucio can also do a sort of strafe jump bhop (more like in csgo) and carry speed from his amp it up, the new wallride speed boost, or landing on a slope. I do find slower heroes very tedius to play and I agree with the walking thing

[@RedQueensAce]

Excellent guide. I picked up a few things from this.

[@matthewlea7903]

I like the light effects in the game.

[@Cerecyte1221]

Surprised people would be against it, just another mechanic to differentiate players. Its pretty awesome actually. Reminds me of some of the hidden micro interactions in BW.

[@1InVader1]

3:55 I don't think you understand why people argue against strafe jumping. The problem with strafe jumping is that the difficulty comes from it being completely unintuitive. Just think about it: "If you keep jumping with a strafe button held down while turning slowly with your mouse, you will gain incredible speed!" Oh, that makes *totally* sense... Also, because movement in quake feels like running on ice, it's very easy to miss jumps, or get stuck in doorways. Stairs are like a deathtrap, because you can't move on them. It makes movement "pointlessly" difficult. Compare that to Titanfall 2, where you have slide-hopping and air-strafing too. It adds to the skill cap of the game, rather than pushing the skill floor too high. You have more control over your movement, so it's harder to mess up drastically, but it's also more rewarding to do it well.

[@RocketJumpNinja]

I don't think you understand why none of that matters.

[@1InVader1]

So why bother pointing out the criticism at all?

[@herbapet]

definitely learned something today! thanks.

[@NicolasBailly]

You don't have to time a second jump in order to grab the ledge after a launchpad : You can just keep pressing "crouch" and it will automatically prevent you from going to high (just like in quake live)

[@eduardogallardo11386]

Ty for all the information and quality explanations based on your experience, i cant resist to ask you what was the most fast paced action fps arena of all time? (Or the frenziest that you ever played)

[@CELIAXIII]

Hey, this was an amazing video! But I would really appreciate uploading some raw gameplay while using these and thanks for the great content!!!

[@RocketJumpNinja]

Thanks! I have 2 videos of raw gameplay on here already, check those out!

[@CELIAXIII]

Ok Thanks :)

[@mohamedashrefbenabdallah2545]

This guy's name is RedSpear Creepy coincidence, Eh? Wait what?

[@almightyIrie]

Is it possible to do bridge2rail with Ranger? i used to be able to pull it off sometimes in QL, can't really try in beta since matches are busy etc. I like Ranger because he has the classic 320 base speed, making me feel 'home', but i wonder if the map got bigger [apart from it's additions] or if i got worse than i was before.. xD Great videos.. but you already know.. keep em coming!

[@jalle88]

yeah you can.

[@eray6174]

i dont know if you stream on twitch. but that would be really amazing dude. i love to watch your gameplays

[@ZdrytchX]

slash -> urban terror movement? :P Also there seems to be an air speed limit. Feels like it's somwhere around 1000-1200 ups

[@GroinMischief]

Only backlash about strafe jumping is the speed caps lol. Visor is the only champion that is more the less like Quake Live, other champions' speeds are capped to like 600 or so. Visor btw is also capped to 1600, but you're not likely to get that speed anyway

[@7DragonEyes7]

Have you ever tried Dirty Bomb? (not really a Quake type but I like the movement and gameplay)

[@kerrang2757]

I still miss non-stop jumping sound "huh huh huh" whenever you make a jump, which makes you feel you getting even more speed, lol.

[@thirstisr34l]

Strafe jumping is a really cool efficiency mechanic. I just hope the developers don't sully over the balancing of the game. I am more willing to play it than Overwatch.

[@phobophobian7765]

I wish that Zy had a chance to play Nosgoth before it got canceled. Besides being very competitive, hard to master and loads of fun, players found something that was similar the story of strafe jumping "bug". It needed little skill, but it was also "something to do" while you position to re-engage after respawning.

[@arpadvarga5689]

Zy! If you press crouch at the top of the jumppad, it catches the edge, you don't have to jump! : )

[@RocketJumpNinja]

So I'm told... but it still hasn't worked for me. Will try again next beta.

[@zeepster]

2:46 The what- jump? I think you mean walljump but it doesn't sound like you're saying it. Oh and excellent tutorial once again. Lifetime quake player here but somehow i only recently found your channel.

[@toxeusification]

2:40 instead of press jump button on the jump pad you can press crouch button and it's work with Nyx

[@LikeStrikeProduction]

I didnt really realise what you were doing when you were showing the advanced movement on your keys. Could you maybe explain what you should do with the normal keys? Btw love your videos just want to start quake because of your channel!

[@MrMirofl]

Nice video. Keep it going!

[@launders]

thanks

[@arcadealchemist]

holding space

[@PowerPawaa]

In Quake, do you have to manually keep pressing space or can you hold it down and it jumps for you when you land on the ground? Great video as well!

[@gaurd3]

Old school mouse 1 for attack and mouse 2 for jump for quake. Keeps movement simple.

[@EternalDahaka]

I'm interested if there is a difference with Live and Champions aside from the speed caps. I've heard that auto-bunnyhoping doesn't give as much acceleration as manually tapping jump(supposedly you lose 30%). I wonder if that applies to Champions. I think it is a shame strafe-jumping isn't more common in games. It has tons of uses and is a way to sort of "sprint" without having an actual mechanic for it. I'm a more single-player oriented person, and there are quite a few games that would have benefited from it(DooM2016 and Serious Sam). I didn't know about the bounce pad thing. I'm going to have to try that when I play next.

[@IAMDIMITRI]

I didn't know NYX could dash off the walls like that. I need to try her next time. I think I will like it, playing Warsow before.

[@Mario-qy8ox]

Nice tips and explenation dude, thx

[@Tech419z]

cant wait till i get my hands on this

[@Yakumounr]

Quake without strafe jumping is like Super Mario without jump :)

[@Kait0s]

Hey Zy, quick question: Is Sorlag supposed to have air control? Because so far he seems to be the best all around champion to play (kinda broken imo), 125hp/50shield and 280ms+ that bunnyhop passive and air control.