Questions, Coffee & Cars

[@caperbrennan4556]

Thanks for the rust protection discussion. Can you go for a deep dive on this topic. thanks.

[@timcreelman3540]

I have a 2015 Porsche Macan S, bought new almost 10 years ago. The manufacturing quality of the vehicle is excellent, and the driving experience is very satisfying. I am now getting near to when major components will need replacing, not just maintaining. I am ok with that, as Zack says, the most economical vehicle you can own is the one you currently have. I do not want to spend $110,000 CDN for a new Macan S, and I don't want to buy a cheaper new vehicle. I will just keep my Macan S for maybe another 10 years, and replace parts, and maintain the car. No need for a new vehicle. As I am approaching 70, this car will probably see me out to the end of my driving tenure. Love your show.

[@2driverpls652]

Same..I have a 2008 FJ Cruiser. Retired 2 yrs ago. The truck is bulletproof. I want an X5 but don’t want the payments..even for used one.

[@sugarhog1938]

I drive a 2022 m5 comp matte black and a 2024 cayenne s hybrid pebble grey, macan s isn’t 110k cad it’s less than 80k. The gts is 89k. The macan badge doesn’t get into 6 figures.

[@sugarhog1938]

@@2driverpls652x5 is the cheapest out of the 4 midsize luxury SUVs. Being 84k. It’s pretty good value when you compare it to competitors like the Audi q7 being 120k. No hybrid, no bmw drive recorder, no 4 wheel steering, old tech. You can get an x5 for cheaper and with all that

[@timcreelman3540]

@@sugarhog1938 I don't know where you live, but in Calgary, there are 8 new Macan S vehicles at the Porsche Centre Calgary, and all are over $100,000, and a couple approach $107,000. I was simply using those new vehicle prices in my comment, plus tax of course. All the Macan non-S vehicles are around $85,000; perhaps you were referring to those.

[@in4chandru]

❤

[@stea2494]

Love my 2022 X5, tows incredibly good, that ZF transmission is so smooth

[@bigdaddy5150sh71]

These are my favorite reviewers ❤

[@NeFO-bd7bi]

When I saw Andrea slide into the Toyota Crown Signia to get the scoop for her viewers, I knew I could not buy my next vehicle without you alls perspective. I’m in the market for a Small to medium SUV. Waiting to see if the RDX is finally redesigned inside. Maybe a hybrid but I buy for long term, 10 to 13 years. Thank you for translating for USA specs. Great channel.

[@johnc3812]

Same here. Love my 2017 RDX, and waiting for the 2026 RDX so hopefully they will finally get rid of that horrible trac pad.

[@thomasdeir6212]

Followed for years, Love the show! And it’s Canadian 🇨🇦

[@snekhai]

Sorry to hear about your dog😢. If you go to North Territory in Australia, then you may review exotic Mitsubishis, that are not present in North Amerca. Also no kangaroos there and crocodiles are on the beach😅. Love your show!

[@leftcoaster67]

Australia. Beautiful country with 20,000 species of animals/insects that want to kill you.

[@AndrewRS001]

Keep up the great work, folks!

[@StevenJayOh]

Loved my Outback!

[@louism8217]

electromagnetic rust prevention does not work unless the metal is submerged in a conducting material. I have actually removed a unit with rust right at the points where it was connected to the body of the car. I use Penetroil from Ziebart and have it reapplied annually, and so far so good

[@alsheremeta]

Cathodic protection is a thing, but I don't think it can work on a vehicle.

[@louism8217]

@alsheremeta it doesn't. It works on ships, in salt water because salt water conducts the current around the hull. It also takes a bigger current than those things produce. The zinc in the galvanized metal does a better job, at least until the zinc corrodes away.

[@paininthepatoot]

Would go with a pickup for towing. Like the pickup bed for extra storage or room for bikes etc.

[@Beyondesp]

Whenever i see the question forester vs outback i will say that i would have bought a forester if it had the turbo. The visibility on a forester is a bit better and you sit a little higher in the seat vs the outback. But driving the non turbo is like driving a lawn mower. The turbo is just smoother and more fun to drive. Hopefully when they bring the hybrid coming to forester next year it will get a bit of an hp bump and make it a better drive.

[@s-man3684]

Turbos will be less reliable.

[@timothyburnside3229]

What class and values that you came home to be with your fur baby! Just confirms what your fans knew, simply the best!

[@paininthepatoot]

6000 lbs minus weight of driver and any passagers and minus weight of gear being carried in vehicle or in the trailer. Not sure if the fuel in the vehicle should also be counted. Anyway my point is the towing capacity will not be 6000 pounds.

[@Beer20001]

Andrea right! Amazing video Andrea or Zack,! 🎉

[@gregholloway2656]

Forester vs Outback: I own a Forester and my Dad owns an Outback, which I’ve driven a lot. Visibility out of Forester is a bit better. Parking is easier in Forester. Outback can haul long items better. Outback tows much better. Both comfortable. Mileage is pretty similar. Easier to get in and out of Forester.

[@alsheremeta]

What can you report about corrosion of suspension and brake hardware between the two?

[@Hallowsaw]

I own a legacy with 150k and an outback with 100k miles. Neither have hardly any rust.​@@alsheremeta

[@alsheremeta]

@@Hallowsaw Good to hear, I have a 2007 Legacy wagon, manufactured in Indiana, the undercarriage rust is horrendous...

[@gregholloway2656]

@@alsheremeta The corrosion is pretty similar. I suspect Subaru was using the same methods for both products. I did have to change the rear coil springs on the Forester, as there was a recall for these due to corrosion causing premature breakage.

[@asad5067]

get the most recent mazda 5 instead

[@IamGroot786]

That's what Consumer Reports is, feedback from consumers. I get those annual surveys regarding our vehicles and yes, Zack, it also includes other things like lawn mower, dishwasher, humidifier and so on.

[@DuaneWaller-m4i]

But it's just the opinions of their subscribers, not just 'consumers'. It's their OWN consumers, which is mostly aging white guys.

[@asad5067]

not just that, they have experts that rate things too.

[@asad5067]

@@DuaneWaller-m4i its not a mystery that japanese cars have better reliability than american...

[@nickthequick]

Just rode the Wrangler as a rental, and I simply don't understand why anyone would buy it, it drives like a boat.

[@Snafu2346]

Because it's mostly a vehicle for the insecure limpsticks. Or Amber Lynn taking selfies with all her besties.

[@calebwany8422]

Boating is the new engaging

[@billurban1581]

It’s a Jeep thing, you wouldn’t understand.

[@techpappee]

With towing you want to be at least 80%. To tow 6000lbs you want around 7500 capacity at a minimum.

[@noelrutherford6321]

You can access consumer reports for free online through many public libraries. No need to pay the subscription or go into the library. Speaking as the Collection Development Manager for Nashville Public Library

[@NorthernRetreat]

Go to Australia and review their version of the "Outback". 😅👍

[@AD-lf9ck]

It looks like to me the next 5 years are going to decide that shift is going to be towards an ICE or Evs. At least here in N. America. Until I'll hold on to my hybrid 😅

[@stephenwierzbicki4463]

Andrea, tell CR that you love your Ford Edsel, hahaha 😊.

[@danhall3450]

17:47 Zack correctly said can get Turbo in Outback but 2nds later said can get Turbo in Forest. He was right the 1st time, not the 2nd time. No Turbo in Forester for a number of years now.

[@JeffWinter1]

Had a couple blow a camper trailer tire in front of my house. They didn't have a jack that would lift it, the spare was flat and the camper was overloaded and towed by a Kia Sportage. Had to use Two 3500lb automotive jacks to raise it high enough to remove the wheel. They were completely unprepared, overloaded, and did little maintenance. Disaster waiting to happen and went off blissfully ignorant after getting free help that they didn't offer to pay for.

[@williamscott7763]

Hi guys, When it comes to towing an airstream, a nice pre owned Cayenne Diesel would be nice and often times there maybe some warranty left on them.

[@MrWarrencarter]

Andreas right , as usual lol .....A5 :)

[@sugarhog1938]

Yea a5 is a class above. Also 20k more expensive. 330e is 42k, a5 is 68k

[@IamGroot786]

Why not a Lexus ES350? Better ride and 10 times more reliable than both of the first two choices.

[@billurban1581]

Love the sport back (hatchback) profile. Reminds me . . . My 1988 626 hatchback was a great car.

[@sanjaybali1021]

A5 all the way.

[@superalain1961]

Krown is the best I have a 2010 ES 350 ( 350,000 km) and I use this car only for winter and I have no issues great protection and we get insane winters in Quebec City !!!

[@virgil3241]

FYI, if you want to save some money. If you have a library card, you can get access to Consumer Reports for free

[@wetzel82]

FYI, Andrea mentioned that

[@1232bluejays]

Consumer reports is useless

[@asad5067]

i dont think its quite as good as the online subscription, but i definitely use it

[@BobGrimminger]

I don't know exactly the product you described in the rust prevention answer, but it sounded a lot like a sacrificial anode can. Such a device could in theory reduce rust on any part it was electrically in contact with. I don't know how effective they are in practice in comparison to a spray.

[@CedroCron]

35 Years using Krown Rust control every year. My van was 22 years old and had 0 rust when it went to the scrapyard at 503,000km. The engine wore out and I felt I had gotten my money out of that vehicle at that point. I can absolutely tell you without a doubt Krown works! That is why they are Canada's #1 Rust Proofing company. That and they guarantee 0 rust if you treat the vehicle from less than 2 years old or 48,000km.

[@denism66]

So how is this applied? I live near the sea and corrosion is a big thing on our cars.

[@CedroCron]

@@denism66 They spray the bottom of the car, under the hood, inside the doors and quarter panels / rocker panels etc. You can learn more at the Krown Rust Control website and KZbin Channel.

[@danhall3450]

Jeep is on the ropes. From WSJ Aug 4th: "Factories temporarily stopped producing the Jeep Wrangler and Grand Cherokee sport-utility vehicles in the past week, people familiar with the matter said. Those models were among Jeep’s bestsellers through the first half of the year.".

[@ianjay5301]

Electronic rust devices cannot possibly work because there are too many disparate components in a car. Once the electrons start moving that cause "rust", it is too late to stop that chemical process. You can slow it down with the suggested Krown or Rust Check applications, but that is all you can do. My 16 year old Canadian wintered Ford Ranger is testament to the effectiveness of Krown and I do all my vehicles. It makes it dirty down under the car and because it continues to creep, you may need to wipe it off surfaces that you might come in contact with. But that is it.

[@melvinjacobs2328]

C.R. lost me about cars back with the Dodge Omni. They claimed it rolled over. All car magazines tried everything they could, and couldn't replicate the problem.

[@leftcoaster67]

That's happened with a lot of media. Remember the Audi sudden acceleration. It was found that yes, people were hitting the gas not the brake.

[@2driverpls652]

I can read Consumer Reports using my library e-magazines

[@naitikgandhi6029]

Love your channel. I am in the market for minivan and would like to know your thoughts on Honda Odyssey, Toyota Sienna and Kia Carnival? Which one do you recommend? Is Kia hybrid technology any good vs Toyota? or stick to V6 ICE for Honda Odyssey?

[@dcb113]

I find it hilarious when people say they are looking for a sporty suv.

[@inkyraven]

Try a Porsche Macan

[@msalvag]

Re: Stellantis on life support. They need to bring some other brands to NA like Peugeot or DS. Saw a lot of Peugeot on the streets in Italy and Germany this summer and they look good. I'm sure North Americans would be interested for more choice.

[@rodgood]

To late Stelantis has pissed off to many North American buyers ,with their short sited greed .

[@StrikeFirst01]

Zack keep up the great work. Just wondering how is Andrea finding the fountain of youth?

[@10OF9OFBORG]

I never read Consumer reports for a long time. Great show Andrea!

[@claudew5582]

Hi, I’m torn between a 2007 Ford Ranger and a Nissan Frontier SE, like the Nissan for its wider and deeper box. 😊

[@kevinW826]

Electronic rust protection doesn’t work. I had it installed on a 2009 Mitsubishi galant. It started rusting out a year later.

[@Simply_GenX]

Would rust protection still be required on some of the vehicles that use galvanized steel? Thought they don’t rust? Eg Audi. Is Krown still recommended for these vehicles?

[@frazergeno4557]

Go to Australia and check out BYD's Seal & Seal line 6. and compare against the Tesla

[@fionalindberg]

I love that you loved your dog so well. I’m the same way. I once won a 10 day trip to Hawaii but I scheduled to only be away for a week. The things we do for our four-legged family members.

[@andreaspencer9813]

They are the best! We miss Guinness every day 😍

[@danymanchster1759]

consumer reports > jd powers

[@Just_Rick_137]

Airstream Caravel 22FB Maximum Trailer Capacity GVWR 5000 lbs.

[@ajc3731]

You killing me with your comments about Consumer Report. CR has been my Bible for all of my adult life.... and now you have shot it down. Where do I turn to now???

[@billurban1581]

King James Version is good.

[@s-man3684]

CR

[@grantboucher9342]

my friend has a 12 kia rio with high mileage and electronic snail oil and its rust free in whitby on i did not believe it myself

[@josephpanozzo4815]

Consumer Reports also constantly asks for donations as well.

[@Pzlovewin88]

What do you think about 2019 Toyota RAV4 XLE Hybrid? Is it reliable?

[@s-man3684]

Yes. Very

[@Richardak600]

I guess Porsche will not sell cars in the cold Canadian climate .

[@vancity2349]

Why is that?

[@xyema-mpa-ma-ma]

Well, my Hyundai Sonata had an engine seizure on 401, my Subie is doing alright, knock on wood, so maybe Consumer Reports not that bad after all.

[@thomobrien1854]

1975 Chev Caprice wagon .. 454 ci … that would tow an airstream! lol 😂

[@sk-un5jq]

I will NEVER buy a Hyundai/KIA after the way they treated their customers with the KIA Boyz car thefts. EVERYONE''s insurance in the USA also went up significantly because of the tens of thousands of car thefts! Mine has doubled the past 2 yrs with no accidents or tickets! Ugh. I hate Hyundai/KIA with a passion!

[@tocreatee5736]

yeah Hyundai KIA just recalled 4 million cars in april of THIS year,

[@richh7608]

Wow. Usually enjoy your reviews but in my opinion the segment with the CR RANTS was way off base. Especially with the comment JD Powers is better. (their 2024 Initial Quality Study has Ram as Number 1 and Dodge as last - same manufacture, both with limited new products - that makes sense NOT!). CR attempts to predict new car reliability of new models based on the changes made the vehicle for the model year and their info on that brands overall reliability. Sometimes they get it wrong, as their readers provide feedback and the assessments are updated. (You have even mentioned that you probably should not buy the first year of a model change). I'm just glad that there is publication with actual Automotive ENGINEERS doing the testing, real time feedback from their members and is not dependent on advertising to survive.

[@billurban1581]

Wrong. “Subscribers” is not a scientific sample, verified owners is. In reality, and if anecdotal stories are ignored, differences between marques are relatively small.

[@jimreilly9179]

Sorry about your dog.

[@simonstops]

Any chance when doing your car reviews that you could give cargo space also in litres and not just in cubic feet?

[@hereigoagain5050]

My old Ford has rust protection: a slow oil leak at the oil pan. Built Ford Tough!

[@billurban1581]

While you have the oil pan down to replace the gasket, jiggle the rods, OK? : ^ ]

[@michaelbury1941]

Zack, some vehicles were removed from CR list at that time because they did not include ESC as standard. And the survey is looooooong

[@Alan-m5k]

Please only listen to scotty kilmer for reliability studies

[@NewYorksFinest1]

Do you think the 2024 id4 will have over 300 miles of range ?

[@pdd3]

When it comes to things like electronic rust protection, it'd be nice if you could get a Chemist to answer that question from the science perspective.

[@kevinn1158]

Porsche going EV by 2026? LOL. Sure they will.

[@russellchristison8425]

If you are coming to Australia, it would be our privilege to have you stay at our place at no cost, our bnb is perfect for couples on our 2 acre property. We are just over an hour from Sydney and 2 hours from the national capital Canberra

[@kurtkreiss5142]

I had a friend that worked at JD Power...never look at their stats any longer...

[@michaelgehrke8272]

A Jeep Grand Cherokee can tow 6000 lbs. I believe the non turbo Subaru engines are more reliable. Consumer Reports is good but I don't always agree with all their opinions. I always look forward to hearing from you two.

[@jayshahu]

Keep pushing Hyundai and Kia .

[@tocreatee5736]

💀💀💀💀💀

[@1232bluejays]

So many people still buy electronic rust control

[@1232bluejays]

Forget abut getting a deal on a jeep. If a company gets in big trouble they just wait for a government bailout.

[@danymanchster1759]

all the hyundai mechanics and 3rd party mechanics say to stay away from hyundais tho. they all say that they are having lots of engine failures to the extent that their engines are on back orders. idk where you guys get your info for. also 3-5 year reliability is nothing. i mean you expect a brand new car to not have any issues in first 3-5 years.

[@IKnewMickey]

I wish some of the dudes in the comment section were as clever as they think they are.

[@katmanjenks1961]

Thank You!

[@THEREALTJP]

All these companies need to go 100% hybrid 1st before going 100% EV

[@marclacroix5904]

Towing a 22-foot Airstream? CAYENNE! (just saying...). If you can afford the one, you can probably afford the other.....

[@leftcoaster67]

$35 as they are sipping on Starbucks coffee. ;)

[@eneumeyer19]

Great episode... But Andrea why do you call it the American way for Sportage!?! Lol, keep your Canadian pride! 😉🦫🍁🇨🇦

[@josephbrazeau5411]

In hindsight, CR was correct about the 2012 Civic. It was a dog.

[@s-man3684]

I don't trust JD Power at all.

[@ohidalgoe]

I would buy an EV if it comes with a disel gen in the back.

[@magnoliap5824]

The outback is ugly. The end. 😂

[@calebwany8422]

You better take that back

[@philipf2705]

To me i don't understand the value of the korean alternatives. Unless you can't get a toyota or honda due to waitlists, why buy their korean cousins? The Japanese hold more resale value, cost the same or less when brand new(especially nowadays), have a history of reliability on models that have been around for decades and don't have crazy exterior and interior styling. That being said I am impressed with the competitive spirit of Hyundai and Kia - there was a time when their cars were WORTHLESS after 5 years on the used market. Cheers Zack and Andrea

[@dfsdh432v9]

they are little bit cheap at front. same reason people buy things at $ general.

[@danhall3450]

Holding their value is not so much of an issue is you keep your car 3 years or less or 7 years or more.

[@philipf2705]

@@danhall3450 Even in 3 years, the toyota or honda will fetch u $2000 less of a loss, which is $2000 more in your pocket

[@rohitnijhawan5281]

@@philipf2705 you're not even recouping the 5-10k markup with 2000$

[@philipf2705]

@@rohitnijhawan5281 R u talking about a dealer mark up? in Canada i can get cars at less or at MSRP

[@robertduklus6555]

Just picked up new lexus es 300h. Anyone has experience rustproofing one of them.? Any concerns with additional hybrid/electric components getting sprayed with penetrating oil.

[@azgman6439]

I agree, what IS up with Consumer Reports? Their recommendations just do not make sense to me and they are constantly trying to upsell subscribers... argh!

[@tocreatee5736]

only trust Iseecars statistics.

[@MrPedalpaddle]

Be brave with your Canadian pronunciations: “Sportaahhge”, SVP!

[@TheGbeecher]

I used to follow consumer reports - I haven't for many years now...I trust JD Power more 😉

[@bigdaddy5150sh71]

Andrea is easy on the eyes 👀.

[@katmanjenks1961]

Perv

[@grantboucher9342]

Henry says FORD is best......................can you believe him no TOYOTA IS BEST

[@grantboucher9342]

loser comp. with loser comp. and european loser comp. equals Stellantis

[@easternyellowjacket276]

Regarding question two, I can't believe some people wouldn't consider an EV. It's an absurd declaration of ignorance, as far as I'm concerned.

[@GrizzledNoob]

It's also ignorant to not understand that many people do not have easy access to charging for an EV. Apartment living really limits those options. In addition there are so many unknowns about the batteries and reliability and safety and the technology it's very obvious why people are hesitant to consider electric. Hopefully that helps you understand what you for some reason found to be so absurd.

[@easternyellowjacket276]

@@GrizzledNoob Your first statement has some merit, but the latter part is nonsense. Batteries have proven to be reliable. There have been electrics out for over a decade, and for the most part their batteries are holding up well. And those are the first gen batteries.

[@GrizzledNoob]

@easternyellowjacket276 I'm assuming you're a fan of the show if posting. There have been several issues with EVs on the channel. You only have to go back to episode 107 where they discussed battery repair and replacement costs. That is absolutely a consideration to look at when choosing a vehicle to purchase and drive for the next decade.

[@easternyellowjacket276]

@@GrizzledNoob I saw that issue. It happened when someone ran something over and destroyed their battery. Non warranty issue. Batteries aren't the problem, as every study has shown that they are maintain on average 90+ of charge after 10 years. Simply look at studies by Tesla, etc.

[@grantboucher9342]

just remember if you live in ONTARIO dont POOP on the BEACH

[@ayayoutuber]

consumer report and jD power are all marketing .... ignore.

[@runningawayvagabond5876]

Consumers Reports is a joke. I'm old enough to remember when the Dodge Neon, Plymouth Neon and Chrysler Neon all had noticeably different ratings in Consumers Reports even though all three were the same vehicle. They couldn't explain it so what did CR do? Just marked them all the same starting with the next auto issue! The real answer is CR didn't want subscribers to know there was THAT much leeway in the way people mark their responses which in effect made their scores worthless. Don't even get me started on how they rated every new vehicle of a certain import brand as recommended based on past performance yet didn't automatically rate other manufacturers vehicles recommended even if they were just as reliable. Total bias even through they're shoveling it down your throat that they are unbiased and scientific. Look at their Corvette ratings. It's been many years since I bothered to glance at a CR issue so don't know if this is still true or has chanced, but average or maybe a bit better than average reliability at best yet owners LOVE them. Absolutely LOVE them according to CR themselves. So how can a vehicle rated less reliable than something else have more satisfied owners than the more reliable one? Does anyone think a Jeep Wrangler owner cares about CR's rating or do they just want to get the roof and doors off and head to the beach or an offroad trail or something? Do you think that person cares one bit that a CRV would be more reliable and get better fuel economy? Absolutely not. And then their what makes a better pet issue - cats or dogs? Like tell a dog person a cat is a better pet or vice versa, tell a cat person a dog would be better. CR in all their flawed scoring and rating and recommending have replaced an individuals decision and preference and served up boring scores and ratings of solid or hollow dots.