Quran Contradiction Claim: Was the Earth Created Before the Heavens - Quran: 79:30

[@IbnAlHimyari]

Many of these alleged contradictions are refuted here www.call-to-monotheism.com/refuting_allegations_of_internal_contradictions_in_the_qur_an

[@yahyasnow9892]

Thanks for shairing

[@IbnAlHimyari]

Yahya Snow : No problem Barakallahu fik

[@seiddzekovic4189]

Yahya Snow Brother Yahya! Love you! You are doing awesome job! May Allah bless you and your family!

[@oolalamme2698]

Even the imams know there are contradictions they have to try to clean up. Embarrassing!

[@IbnAlHimyari]

Oolala Mme : Prove it.I sent a link that refutes many of them

[@MohamedAmin-ff2if]

Contradictions in the Bible. Who incited David to count the fighting men of Israel? God did (2 Samuel 24: 1) Satan did (I Chronicles 2 1:1) n that count how many fighting men were found in Israel? Eight hundred thousand (2 Samuel 24:9) One million, one hundred thousand (I Chronicles 21:5) How many fighting men were found in Judah? Five hundred thousand (2 Samuel 24:9) Four hundred and seventy thousand (I Chronicles 2 God sent his prophet to threaten David with how many years of famine? Seven (2 Samuel 24:13) Three (I Chronicles 21:12) How old was Ahaziah when he began to rule over Jerusalem? Twenty-two (2 Kings 8:26) Forty-two (2 Chronicles 22:2) 6. How old was Jehoiachin when he became king of Jerusalem? Eighteen (2 Kings 24:8) Eight (2 Chronicles 36:9) 7. How long did he rule over Jerusalem? Three months (2 Kings 24:8) Three months and ten days (2 Chronicles 36:9) 8. The chief of the mighty men of David lifted up his spear and killed how many men at one time? Eight hundred (2 Samuel 23:8) Three hundred (I Chronicles 11: 11) 9. When did David bring the Ark of the Covenant to Jerusalem? Before defeating the Philistines or after? After (2 Samuel 5 and 6) Before (I Chronicles 13 and 14) 10. How many pairs of clean animals did God tell Noah to take into the Ark? Two (Genesis 6:19, 20) Seven (Genesis 7:2). But despite this last instruction only two pairs went into the ark (Genesis 7:8-9)

[@yaseenibnkhan3416]

Your are the prayer of mine. ❤❤❤. I ask Allah to help me to solve this question then I saw your video. Jazak allah

[@MohamedAmin-ff2if]

Contradictions in the Bible Who incited David to count the fighting men of Israel? God did (2 Samuel 24: 1) Satan did (I Chronicles 2 1:1) 2. In that count how many fighting men were found in Israel? Eight hundred thousand (2 Samuel 24:9) One million, one hundred thousand (I Chronicles 21:5) 3. How many fighting men were found in Judah? Five hundred thousand (2 Samuel 24:9) Four hundred and seventy thousand (I Chronicles 21:5) 4. God sent his prophet to threaten David with how many years of famine? Seven (2 Samuel 24:13) Three (I Chronicles 21:12) 5. How old was Ahaziah when he began to rule over Jerusalem? Twenty-two (2 Kings 8:26) Forty-two (2 Chronicles 22:2)

[@oolalamme2698]

Mohamed Amin For starters, a few contradictions in that short little book called the quran: 1- What was man created from: blood, clay, dust, or nothing? "Created man, out of a (mere) clot of congealed blood," (96:2). "We created man from sounding clay, from mud moulded into shape, (15:26). "The similitude of Jesus before Allah is as that of Adam; He created him from dust, then said to him: "Be". And he was," (3:59). "But does not man call to mind that We created him before out of nothing?" (19:67, Yusuf Ali). Also, 52:35). "He has created man from a sperm-drop; and behold this same (man) becomes an open disputer! (16:4). 2- Is there or is there not compulsion in religion according to the Qur'an? "Let there be no compulsion in religion: Truth stands out clear from Error: whoever rejects evil and believes in Allah hath grasped the most trustworthy hand-hold, that never breaks. And Allah heareth and knoweth all things," (2:256). "And an announcement from Allah and His Messenger, to the people (assembled) on the day of the Great Pilgrimage,--that Allah and His Messenger dissolve (treaty) obligations with the Pagans. If then, ye repent, it were best for you; but if ye turn away, know ye that ye cannot frustrate Allah. And proclaim a grievous penalty to those who reject Faith," (9:3). "But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practice regular charity, then open the way for them: for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful," (9:5). Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued," (9:29). 3- The first Muslim was Muhammad? Abraham? Jacob? Moses? "And I [Muhammad] am commanded to be the first of those who bow to Allah in Islam," (39:12). "When Moses came to the place appointed by Us, and his Lord addressed him, He said: "O my Lord! show (Thyself) to me, that I may look upon thee." Allah said: "By no means canst thou see Me (direct); But look upon the mount; if it abide in its place, then shalt thou see Me." When his Lord manifested His glory on the Mount, He made it as dust. And Moses fell down in a swoon. When he recovered his senses he said: "Glory be to Thee! to Thee I turn in repentance, and I am the first to believe." (7:143). "And this was the legacy that Abraham left to his sons, and so did Jacob; "Oh my sons! Allah hath chosen the Faith for you; then die not except in the Faith of Islam," (2:132). 4- Does Allah forgive or not forgive those who worship false gods? Allah forgiveth not that partners should be set up with Him; but He forgiveth anything else, to whom He pleaseth; to set up partners with Allah is to devise a sin Most heinous indeed," (4:48). Also 4:116 The people of the Book ask thee to cause a book to descend to them from heaven: Indeed they asked Moses for an even greater (miracle), for they said: "Show us Allah in public," but they were dazed for their presumption, with thunder and lightning. Yet they worshipped the calf even after clear signs had come to them; even so we forgave them; and gave Moses manifest proofs of authority," (4:153). 5- Are Allah's decrees changed or not? "Rejected were the messengers before thee: with patience and constancy they bore their rejection and their wrongs, until Our aid did reach them: there is none that can alter the words (and decrees) of Allah. Already hast thou received some account of those messengers," (6:34). "The word of thy Lord doth find its fulfillment in truth and in justice: None can change His words: for He is the one who heareth and knoweth all, (6:115). None of Our revelations do We abrogate or cause to be forgotten, but We substitute something better or similar: Knowest thou not that Allah Hath power over all things?" (2:106). When We substitute one revelation for another,- and Allah knows best what He reveals (in stages),- they say, "Thou art but a forger": but most of them understand not," (16:101). 6- Was Pharaoh killed or not killed by drowning? "We took the Children of Israel across the sea: Pharaoh and his hosts followed them in insolence and spite. At length, when overwhelmed with the flood, he said: "I believe that there is no god except Him Whom the Children of Israel believe in: I am of those who submit (to Allah in Islam). (It was said to him): "Ah now!- But a little while before, wast thou in rebellion!- and thou didst mischief (and violence)! This day shall We save thee in the body, that thou mayest be a sign to those who come after thee! but verily, many among mankind are heedless of Our Signs!" (10:90-92). Moses said, "Thou knowest well that these things have been sent down by none but the Lord of the heavens and the earth as eye-opening evidence: and I consider thee indeed, O Pharaoh, to be one doomed to destruction!" So he resolved to remove them from the face of the earth: but We did drown him and all who were with him," (17:102-103). 7- Is wine consumption good or bad? O ye who believe! Intoxicants and gambling, (dedication of) stones, and (divination by) arrows, are an abomination,--of Satan's handwork: eschew such (abomination), that ye may prosper," (5:90). (Here is) a Parable of the Garden which the righteous are promised: in it are rivers of water incorruptible; rivers of milk of which the taste never changes; rivers of wine, a joy to those who drink; and rivers of honey pure and clear. In it there are for them all kinds of fruits; and Grace from their Lord. (Can those in such Bliss) be compared to such as shall dwell forever in the Fire, and be given, to drink, boiling water, so that it cuts up their bowels (to pieces)?" (47:15). Truly the Righteous will be in Bliss: On Thrones (of Dignity) will they command a sight (of all things): Thou wilt recognize in their faces the beaming brightness of Bliss. Their thirst will be slaked with Pure Wine sealed," (83:22-25).

[@InstantPsyche]

@@oolalamme2698 Brother if you read it at your own(rather than copy paste) then, I assure you that there's not a single contradiction in it, even if you read that with Context (before and after verse) you'll get that what is it about

[@oolalamme2698]

@@InstantPsyche Ignorance is not bliss. Just keep lying to yourself. Muhammad would be happy. If you can't see all the contradictions, you've been well-trained.

[@InstantPsyche]

@@oolalamme2698 You are still here to argue after 2 years 😂 May God bless you too ☺️

[@MohamedAmin-ff2if]

what is the age of ahzia in his kingdom?? 2 kings 8:26 Ahazia is the son of 22 years when he ruled and he ruled one year on Jerusalem...

[@69blankpage]

In order to read the Quran with fully understanding it you have got to have wisdom and iman..

[@oolalamme2698]

...and you have to be really gullible!!

[@69blankpage]

Gullible is those who are easily persuaded into believing the idiotic crap that god have a son. Those who claimed to love Jesus but at the same the same time love to disobeyed the commandments..

[@oolalamme2698]

Vincent- Gullible are those who are easily persuaded into believing the idiotic crap that the pagan god "allah" is really GOD and that Muhammad is his little buddy (kbuh). Those who claim to love Jesus but at the same the same time love to mock Him and His Word will be going to hell. That is what the Bible says.

[@69blankpage]

If Allah is a pagan god you should be able to see him. No more pagans in the Muslim world what so ever after the conquering of mecca. And if you're quoting the bible then keep it to yourself cause it is the writing of your Paul kbuh and nothing more, after all your bible scholars have confirmed that it has been corrupted.. Today Quran is read by people like Keith L. Moore, E. Marshall Johnson, T.V.N. Persaud, Joe Leigh Simpson, Gerald C. Goeringer, Alfred Kroner, Professor Armstrong, William Hay and many more and found truth in it is not being gullible. But you as ignorant as you can be can see nothing but darkness. I have to assume that you have never read the Quran..

[@oolalamme2698]

Vincent You are not aware that the pagan deity is Satan himself? And how naive are you to think that there were no more pagans in Islam after the CONQUERING of Mecca? CONQUERING? Since when does the beauty and belief of those who mutter the shahada, memorize the koran and moon Allah need CONQUERING to win converts? At the tip of a sharp blade at your jugular vein, people will profess to believe in anything! Thanks for admitting islam was spread through CONQUERING by the sword. So goes the peaceful religion of Satan and his minions...islam. btw- I read the koran 3 times through in each of 3 translations. It is a mess and a joke and reads like a salad....you just have to put the heads of lettuce and leafy vegetables back together and it makes perfect sense! Think about this: Why did the Jews need to be reminded of "god is one" monotheism since blasphemy was the reason they went after Jesus?? Islam was never needed.

[@noburaoda2841]

Arabic is a rich language.. Beside the Quran 68:13, the same meaning also can be found in Quran 66:4 (at the end)

[@IbnAlHimyari]

The Quran actually say that God created the heaven then he created the earth and then he turned to the heaven and made it into seven heavens. No contradiction.The heaven was already created when God created the earth. It is after the creation of the earth that God divided the heaven into seven heavens

[@QM571]

Yusuf Chebi The Arabic word used doesn't mean "then" in a chronological sense as it does in English.

[@SGBCImus]

I think if you will cite a Tafsir of those verses, then we can be convinced that it is "AS WELL" rather than "then afterward"

[@MohamedAmin-ff2if]

One contradiction I found at the Bible. How old was Jehoiachin when he became king of Jerusalem? Eighteen (2 Kings 24:8) Eight (2 Chronicles 36:9)

[@oolalamme2698]

Muhammad said "I took as my first wife a cougar, a woman of great age, for her money". And Muhammad also said in the BIBLE, "I could not tell the difference between Shaytan and the angel [Jibril] talking to me when I wrote the words of Shaytan [the Satanic verses]". "O what a dolt am I"!

[@moneebee8118]

Jehoiakim received a title during his father’s reign, his mother insisted as she didn’t want his older brother to become a king (she was the king’s legal wife) Jehoiakim officially took over the throne of his father after he died. Don’t just copy paste

[@Abdul-ke1rf]

@besim besim idk maybe it had a day off or something

[@dreadinside654]

@@moneebee8118 where in the bible said " the mother didn't want his older brother to become king". Where did you get that? Out of thin air? Give me the reference.

[@oolalamme2698]

@Abdullah If the Satanic verses, which are in the quran, are weak, then what else in the quran is weak? Since no angel was ever named in the quran as talking to Mohamad, and it was Mohamad's WIFE who named the angel when she was NEVER in the cave, THAT is weak stuff in the quran. The quran is NOT written by Almighty GOD. It's written by a pagan nomad named Mohamad who was under the control of Satan.

[@SAM_KBI]

The thing is, in Q79:27-30 Allah swt doesn't talk in terms of "Khalaq"(created). It talks in terms raising/expansioning and proportioning of the heaven which already has been created. We see this also in Quran 41:9-11. He created the things on earth and then He directed Himself to the heaven while it was smoke. The heaven was already there. Same applies for Quran 2:29. He created all the thing on earth then He directed Himself to the heaven and made it to 7 heavens. Again, the heaven was already there.

[@MohamedAmin-ff2if]

One contradiction I found at the Bible How old was Jehoiachin when he became king of Jerusalem? Eighteen (2 Kings 24:8), Eight (2 Chronicles 36:9)

[@MohamedAmin-ff2if]

Habib Ur Bro Who incited David to count the fighting men of Israel? God did (2 Samuel 24: 1) Satan did (I Chronicles 2 1:1) 2. In that count how many fighting men were found in Israel? Eight hundred thousand (2 Samuel 24:9) One million, one hundred thousand (I Chronicles 21:5) 3. How many fighting men were found in Judah? Five hundred thousand (2 Samuel 24:9) Four hundred and seventy thousand (I Chronicles 21:5) 4. God sent his prophet to threaten David with how many years of famine? Seven (2 Samuel 24:13) Three (I Chronicles 21:12) 5. How old was Ahaziah when he began to rule over Jerusalem? Twenty-two (2 Kings 8:26) Forty-two (2 Chronicles 22:2) 6. How old was Jehoiachin when he became king of Jerusalem? Eighteen (2 Kings 24:8) Eight (2 Chronicles 36:9) 7. How long did he rule over Jerusalem? Three months (2 Kings 24:8) Three months and ten days (2 Chronicles 36:9) 8. The chief of the mighty men of David lifted up his spear and killed how many men at one time? Eight hundred (2 Samuel 23:8) Three hundred (I Chronicles 11: 11) 9. When did David bring the Ark of the Covenant to Jerusalem? Before defeating the Philistines or after? After (2 Samuel 5 and 6) Before (I Chronicles 13 and 14) 10. How many pairs of clean animals did God tell Noah to take into the Ark? Two (Genesis 6:19, 20) Seven (Genesis 7:2). But despite this last instruction only two pairs went into the ark (Genesis 7:8-9) 11. When David defeated the King of Zobah, how many horsemen did he capture? One thousand and seven hundred (2 Samuel 8:4) Seven thousand (I Chronicles 18:4) 12. How many stalls for horses did Solomon have? Forty thousand (I Kings 4:26) Four thousand (2 chronicles 9:25) 13. In what year of King Asa's reign did Baasha, King of Israel die? Twenty-sixth year (I Kings 15:33 - 16:8) Still alive in the thirty-sixth year (2 Chronicles 16:1) 14. How many overseers did Solomon appoint for the work of building the temple? Three thousand six hundred (2 Chronicles 2:2) Three thousand three hundred (I Kings 5:16) 15. Solomon built a facility containing how many baths? Two thousand (1 Kings 7:26) Over three thousand (2 Chronicles 4:5) 16. Of the Israelites who were freed from the Babylonian captivity, how many were the children of Pahrath-Moab? Two thousand eight hundred and twelve (Ezra 2:6) Two thousand eight hundred and eighteen (Nehemiah 7:11) 17. How many were the children of Zattu? Nine hundred and forty-five (Ezra 2:8) Eight hundred and forty-five (Nehemiah 7:13) 18. How many were the children of Azgad? One thousand two hundred and twenty-two (Ezra 2:12) Two thousand three hundred and twenty-two (Nehemiah 7:17) 19. How many were the children of Adin? Four hundred and fifty-four (Ezra 2:15) Six hundred and fifty-five (Nehemiah 7:20) 20. How many were the children of Hashum? Two hundred and twenty-three (Ezra 2:19) Three hundred and twenty-eight (Nehemiah 7:22)

[@MohamedAmin-ff2if]

Habib Ur Bro it seems every time I open this book I found a contradiction. 71. In the gospels which say that Jesus prayed to avoid the cross, how many times did he move away from his disciples to pray? Three (Matthew 26:36-46 and Mark 14:32-42) One. No opening is left for another two times. (Luke 22:39-46) 72. Matthew and Mark agree that Jesus went away and prayed three times. What were the words of the second prayer? Mark does not give the words but he says that the words were the same as the first prayer (Mark 14:3 9) Matthew gives us the words, and we can see that they are not the same as in the first (Matthew 26:42) 73. What did the centurion say when Jesus dies? Certainly this man was innocent (Luke 23:47) Truly this man was the Son of God (Mark 15:39) 74. When Jesus said My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken Me ? in what language did he speak? Hebrew: the words are Eloi, Eloi ..(Matthew 27:46) Aramaic: the words are Eloi, Eloi .. (Mark 15:34) 75. According to the gospels, what were the last words of Jesus before he died? Father, into thy hands I commit my spirit! (Luke 23:46) "It is finished" (John 19:30) 76. When Jesus entered Capernaum he healed the slave of a centurion. Did the centurion come personally to request Jesus for this? Yes (Matthew 8:5) No. He sent some elders of the Jews and his friends (Luke 7:3,6) 77. Adam was told that if and when he eats the forbidden fruit he would die the same day (Genesis 2:17) Adam ate the fruit and went on to live to a ripe old age of 930 years (Genesis 5:5) 78. God decided that the life-span of humans will be limited to 120 years (Genesis 6:3) Many people born after that lived longer than 120. Arpachshad lived 438 years. His son Shelah lived 433 years. His son Eber lived 464 years, etc. (Genesis 11:12-16) 79. Apart from Jesus did anyone else ascend to heaven? No (John 3:13) Yes. And Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven (2 Kings 2:11) 80. Who was high priest when David went into the house of God and ate the consecrated bread? Abiathar (Mark 2:26) Ahimelech, the father of Abiathar (I Samuel 1:1; 22:20) 81. Was Jesus body wrapped in spices before burial in accordance with Jewish burial customs? Yes and his female disciples witnessed his burial (John 19:39-40) No. Jesus was simply wrapped in a linen shroud. Then the women bought and prepared spices so that they may go and anoint him [Jesus) (Mark 16: 1) 82. When did the women buy the spices? After the Sabbath was past (Mark 16:1) Before the Sabbath. The women prepared spices and ointments. Then, on the Sabbath they rested according to the commandment (Luke 23:55 to 24:1) 83. At what time of day did the women visit the tomb? Toward the dawn (Matthew 28: 1) When the sun had risen (Mark 16:2) 84. What was the purpose for which the women went to the tomb? To anoint Jesus body with spices (Mark 16: 1; Luke 23:55 to 24: 1) To see the tomb. Nothing about spices here (Matthew 28: 1) For no specified reason. In this gospel the wrapping with spices had been done before the Sabbath (John 20: 1) 85. A large stone was placed at the entrance of the tomb. Where was the stone when the women arrived? They saw that the stone was Rolled back (Mark 16:4) They found the stone rolled away from the tomb (Luke 24:2) They saw that the stone had been taken away from the tomb (John 20:1) As the women approached, an angel descended from heaven, rolled away the stone, and conversed with the women. Matthew made the women witness the spectacular rolling away of the stone (Matthew 28:1-6) 86. Did anyone tell the women what happened to Jesus body? Yes. A young man in a white robe (Mark 16:5). Two men ... in dazzling apparel later described as angels (Luke 24:4 and 24:23). An angel - the one who rolled back the stone (Matthew 16:2). In each case the women were told that Jesus had risen from the dead (Matthew 28:7; Mark 16:6; Luke 24:5 footnote) No. Mary met no one and returned saying, They have taken the Lord out of the tomb, and we do not know where they have laid him (John 20:2) 87. When did Mary Magdelene first meet the resurrected Jesus? And how did she react? Mary and the other women met Jesus on their way back from their first and only visit to the tomb. They took hold of his feet and worshipped him (Matthew 28:9) On her second visit to the tomb Mary met Jesus just outside the tomb. When she saw Jesus she did not recognize him. She mistook him for the gardener. She still thinks that Jesus body is laid to rest somewhere and she demands to know where. But when Jesus said her name she at once recognized him and called him Teacher. Jesus said to her, Do not hold me... (John 20:11 to 17) 88. What was Jesus instruction for his disciples? Tell my brethren to go to Galilee, and there they will see me (Matthew 2 8: 10) Go to my brethren and say to them, I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God (John 20:17) 89. When did the disciples return to Galilee? Immediately, because when they saw Jesus in Galilee some doubted (Matthew 28:17). This period of uncertainty should not persist After at least 40 days. That evening the disciples were still in Jerusalem (Luke 24:3 3). Jesus appeared to them there and told them, stay in the city until you are clothed with power from on high (Luke 24:49). He was appearing to them during forty days (Acts 1:3), and charged them not to depart from Jerusalem, but to wait for the promise ... (Acts 1:4) 90. To whom did the Midianites sell Joseph? To the Ishmaelites (Genesis 37:28) To Potiphar, an officer of Pharaoh (Genesis 37:36)

[@toufiq-ul-alam6475]

As a muslim there is no contradiction at all and that is the Iman. Those who say there are contradictions they should learn Iman first and then learn Quran from an Ulama e haqq then there will be contradiction.inshallah.

[@HANDHELD_HISTORY]

Does the word "Thumma" have a sequential meaning? I looked it up and it could mean "after that"

[@kalijasin]

Thanks brother.

[@azminabu3515]

How to believe/trust?. How to believe what books/people say or write? Firstly, we have to find which religion is truth/true/right. How? We must have same definition or meaning of the truth/true/right. We must use same method to determine the truth/true/right. Believe => claim = test/check = see. This is normally practice by everybody when we buy/accept something/good which is expensive from other people(we see or we do not see). Example: We want to buy a black pen in the shop was created/produced/manufactured by Marker(do not see) cost around 10K USD. Producer/Manufacturer(do not see) claim, It is a black pen written on the pen. The salesperson(can see) also claim, it is a black pen. Outside (can see), the apparent is black in colour. Inside(ink, can not see), we not sure, it is black or blue or other colour. So, we have to test/check it. Take white paper and write to it to confirm it. It is black. When I see, it is black. It is true/right. I believe/trust it. So, I buy/accept it without any doubt. If you do not want to test/check, it is up to you. It is your money. It is your life. Free will. Our life is only one chance given by god(can not see). When we die, we see the truth, we can not go back in this world(can see). It is too late. I obey what Allah say in Al Quran surah Al asr (The Time) 103(30): recommend one another to the truth. If everybody can see god and his power, there is only one religion. No free will. Have to ask permission, when want to do something. have to get approval first.Everybody fear to god. Everybody have to obey the command/law/rule from that god only. No arrogant people/man. People/Man become humble. like plant, bee, animal, moon, sun, stars. For sure, this world is peacefully. Our faith is very expensive.Please open Al Quran Surah Al Hujurat 49: 6. O who believe! If a Fasiq (liar-evil person) comes to you with and news, verify it, lest you should harm people in ignorance, and afterwards you become regretful for what you have done. Please open Bible John 4:1. Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test to see whether they are from God, for false prophets have gone out into the world. We test and verify the claim/message words of god from Bible (can see), Torah (can see), Al Quran(can see), and other religion books(can see). We must get/see same result(claim=test/check=see) or not. God(can not see) create man(can see). Man worship god. Question: How is god create man? What Method? God create man from ground dust(Torah,Bible, Quran) or man rib(Torah, Bible,Quran) or woman only(Bible,Quran) or Nutfah(mix drop of male (sperm) and female sexual(female egg cell/ova) discharge)-Quran, 1440 years ago, they did not see it, but now, we can see it by using electron microscopy. Or other religion books or other book?. We do testing/experimenting/checking to verify it, by using these method to create man. Everybody can test/experiment/check, verify and see it. Which method can create/produce man?.Answer: The claim/message/words of god in Al Quran is truth/true/right. Conclusion: Certainly, we can create man by this method (claim by Al Quran). Al Quran is truth/true/right. Allah create man. Man belong to Allah. Man have to obey Allah rule/law. Prophet Muhammad s.a.w was the last prophet sent by Allah to us. This religion is truth/true/right. So, we have to believe/trust it . Please, read Al Quran and think. Find and use knowledge to make wise decision. You get the answer. Sorry, my English is not very good.

[@anasaliraqi598]

God bless you

[@MohamedAmin-ff2if]

1st

[@3zzee]

Wrong here buddy, ba'd thalik بعد ذلك means after that. And thuma means then, both indeed do refer to order of things. Please stop with translating the Quran in Arabic till you become an Arabic speaker. This is early elementary level stuff. Appreciate your efforts to defend the Quran

[@theonesinacha4414]

Bro, man has translated the entire Quran into English, you don't know what you're talking about. Also he just gave evidence FROM THE QUR'AN.

[@3zzee]

​@@theonesinacha4414he's selling his translation and any arab in KG would tell you its order of things, it literally means after that, google it

[@khaakkhaak2944]

لاالہ الا اللہ محمدالرسول اللہ اللھم صل علی محمد و علی آل محمد کما صلیت علی ابراھیم وعلی آل ابراھیم انک حمید مجید

[@htw3.03]

word "as" in the "...as well..." must be subjected to the prior object. Which in this case the prior object is the heaven. Yep, no contradiction.

[@theonesinacha4414]

But not prior in chronology, only prior in the language.

[@abdullahmohammed9060]

So it’s contradicts science

[@smk9114]

Christan your religion Christianity is true religion, the only problem with your religion is, there is not a single word in Bible, that has eyes or ear witness who can claim that they heard this word from the lips of Jesus Christ.

[@abduaitor]

ALLAHU AKBAR

[@zainkhan4649]

Cool

[@imrantariq4825]

Contradiction in the Bible Does God accept human sacrifices God accepts human sacrifices Gen 22:2 God forbids human sacrifices Deu 12:30-31

[@kacemrochd6425]

The earth was created by Allah when the age of the universe was only 2/3 of its age today. But only Allah knows best.

[@wizdom8289]

in Sura 2 vers 29 nowhere is mentions that allah has created something first this verse is just an information. It is He who created for you all of that which is on the earth. Then He directed Himself to the heaven, [His being above all creation], and made them seven heavens, and He is Knowing of all things.

[@raywillaimjhonson]

ba3da means after, you can't change the definition of a word because it contradictions your "holy" book

[@30251]

he literally quotes a verse from surah qalam that uses a different version of ba3da thaalika tho. try again

[@raywillaimjhonson]

@@30251 "different version". Oh good one buddy. More like he sees the contradiction so he fits the meaning of the verse with our modern understanding of he universe. As is always with Islamic apologetics.

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@@raywillaimjhonson lol you still havent denied the other translation for ba3da thaalika present in surah qalam.let me know if thats a brand new translation as well. dont worry ill wait.

[@raywillaimjhonson]

@@30251 Its not the translation that is different but the interpretation that changes due to modern understand of science. Muslims need to adjust their claims because of what scientists prove to be true. This is done with multiple times with Islamic apologists when it comes to things like the earth being egg shaped which is false, the flat earth mentioned in the Quran, the sky being called a structure that can fall down on us but the sky is just what we see up here and apparently Allah thought the sky was an actual hard floating object. Not to mention that the Quran says the Earth and the heavens were separated which is also false, or that the Quran claims that the universe is expanding but this interpretation was only added after it was discovered by physicists. Muslims do this with an scientific claim unless they have no way of justifying it i.e evolution (which debunks Adam and Eve).

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@@raywillaimjhonson you still havent refuted the surah qalam post. you claim apologists have only started using this interpretation now so it can match modern science. then why is it used in that surah, in a COMPLETELY different, non-scientific context? one of the VERY FIRST surahs, and it establishes very neatly that 'ba3da' is NOT always a reference to time. if you are right, the verse would have made no sense at all to the listeners during the prophet's time, since it is talking about a mans nature and not a scientific proof they could neither confirm nor deny -- thus making the Quran appear flawed linguistically in the eyes of the most poetic people to ever live, and killing islams chances from the very start. im still waiting for you to try and explain this to me. you wont be able to tho. secondly, every single point youve brought up has already been debunked multiple times. but what you clearly fail to acknowledge is that muslim scientists and scholars since as early as the 8th century were discussing these things, even evolution, long before western scientists did. its not a modern phenomenon at all. what youre also failing to understand is that the quran has no interest in being a science book, every reference to natural phenomenon are made for two simple purposes only: to emphasise Allah's power and to remind mankind of His favours/to be grateful and humble for these gifts. its that simple. i dont like the idea of forcing science from the quran any more than you do, and neither do most serious scholars. im not sure if youre a murtad or a christian or whatever, but you have got to do better than this loool.

[@truthreality8331]

How can you say it doesn't matter whether heaven come first or earth Are you crazy you are making your own stories you people can't make fool today because everyone can read themselves Surah 93:8 contradict surah 53 : 2 In surah 93:8 Allah said that He found Muhammad lost and guided In surah 53:2 Muhammad said Your companion [Muhammad] has not strayed, nor has he erred, Big contradiction

[@theonesinacha4414]

He was lost, then Allah guided him, then he was not lost anymore. Contradiction solved ma gee.

[@kamaldeennazeer2457]

Are you heard god talk?

[@kamaldeennazeer2457]

Un other imams said heven not yet created by god. Same books different. Instructions 😆

[@tea4231]

What came first the chicken or the egg!? The roster Oyea love you long time 🐔🐓🐣

[@salehalimohamed2672]

trying to find clumsy explanations to the numerous mistakes of the quran. he forgets that quran says that it is GOD WHO DECTATED THE QURAN. COULD NOT THAT HOAX GOD USED MUCH MUCH MORE CLEARER WORDS THEN THOSE WHICH YOU WANT TO DESPARATELY TWIST TO RIGHT WHAT IS HORRIBLY WRONG IN THIS PRIMITIVE TEXT.