r/AITA FIRED A Kid After His Mom Constantly Harassed Me

[@ritafryer8134]

Husband enjoying his wife's pain and suffering because of his vicious pranks and him defending that awful sadistic behaviour say's that he's no way going to stop. I can't imagine what he would be willing to do to the kids if they had children

[@lilwoofer8333]

Would probably be daddyo5 2.0

[@fantasticmrfox9291]

@@lilwoofer8333 that is a horrifying thought 😳

[@cowboys19js]

How come she didn’t notice this before they got married?

[@lynnw7155]

He'd be my ex.

[@Cl0ckcl0ck]

'Hey (ex-)husband, your mom died in a car crash.' 1-2 hours later 'It's a prank bro!'.

[@johnmichaelrutherford3514]

Honestly if anyone ever "joked" about one of my pets health I would leave them immediately and completely cut contact.

[@johnmichaelrutherford3514]

@Melody Ackerman exactly

[@mask938]

If anyone ever “joked” about any of my pets health, then that person would be getting a one way ticket to the ER. Nobody “jokes” about my pets’ health!

[@KittenUndercover]

Story 3 - the husband desperately needs therapy. All of his pranks revolve around death - it clearly ties into his fathers death and him not processing it.

[@fealubryne]

Agreed. And the fact that he can't seem to comprehend that telling someone a loved one is dead or dying is traumatic and not at all a prank suggests he has a real disconnect with reality. I hope he can get the help he needs, or else he's going to push away everyone close to him.

[@Pocoentertainmentstudio]

I think the op twisted the story into getting the vote in her favor

[@restinwalken]

@@Pocoentertainmentstudio how did she twist it in her favor? If we believe what is said her husband on multiple occasions did a "prank" that intentionally cause emotional destress to the individuals he's "pranking". Not just on her either to others he knew. If these events happened how is she twisting the story in her favor? He's being a cruel person. Pranks are supposed to be fun for all involved in the prank. What he's doing is emotional munipulation for his own amusement. He has been told multiple time that it's not funny and to stop but continues. OP even gave an excuse as to why he might be doing these terrible "pranks" his father's death. I'm confused what is it that you heard that sounds like her twisting the story to her favor? I don't see it. I'd like to know what you do see for that statement. Please.

[@KIDhazama]

@@restinwalken cynics are just like that. They like to be the opposition. Y'know someone to argue with. They just HAVE to have an opposing opinion.

[@thecoolgrandma7208]

OP tell husband that his pranks only create horrible memories, they are not happy or funny ones and they need to stop. Even after time has passed they are still crappy pranks, not funny.

[@Ospyro3em]

Story 3- he was warned that his pranks weren't funny. If she's asked him to stop and he doesn't, sorry, but he's the AH. If both parties aren't laughing at the end of the prank, then it's not a prank.

[@MrJpaynebb]

NTA and his father's death doesn't explain his behavior. The fact that he pulled a prank faking a friend's death and lost almost 1/2 his old group of friends over it before his father's death tells us this man likes to derive pleasure from other people pain. Not sure why but that's a him issue and not an OP issue. He drove friends out of his life from his pranks and if he doesn't stop then he will drive his wife, OP away as well.

[@mkuti-childress3625]

@@MrJpaynebb If he didn’t do it before his father’s death, it almost seems as if he’s trying to get everyone else to suffer like did. His “pranks” are all about telling people they lost someone important, then getting amused at their reactions. I think that, in a very sick way, it did start because of his own loss. He needs some serious help, before he ends up losing _everyone_ who has ever been important to him.

[@MrJpaynebb]

@@mkuti-childress3625 not sure about the why but we both agree of the results if he stays on this path. Pushing his wife and friends out of his life and he'll only have himself to blame

[@Ospyro3em]

@@mkuti-childress3625 that's very true- I didn't pick up on the fact that his pranks are all to do with making his victims feel like they had list someone- like a very twisted coping mechanism. He needs serious help.

[@khaavren3]

Fire the kid for falsifying the time card and also for allowing his mom access to company assets. That's a huge security breach. The first time she used a work system, he should have been sacked.

[@AaaaNinja]

Heck yeah he should've been fired the first time. I agree.

[@darkmask5933]

Story 3: How many times must is be said, a prank is only funny if both sides find it funny. If at the end of the prank only the invoking party is laughing then it is not a prank, its bullying.

[@harmonygibbs7904]

Yeah like, 'I'm sorry, divorcing you is so funny i cant help it' horrid horrid behavior.

[@tigrisparvus2970]

His pranks are him lying about a situation and then feeling smug because he got one over on them and enjoying the fear and anxiety.

[@darkmask5933]

@@tigrisparvus2970 That's not a prank, that's bullying. Then again, nowadays that's what hidden camera show consider pranks.

[@ScooterBond1970]

@@darkmask5933 I agree, and in fact it's not all that new. I remember a hidden camera show from the late 90s or thereabouts, featured an office intern who was tasked with babysitting a scale model that was to be used in a Very Important Presentation, which model had been carefully engineered to be EXTREMELY fragile. Needless to say, it broke and the guy was in a complete panic thinking about how much trouble he was in. And at the end, when someone called to 'check on' the model and finally spilled the beans, the dude literally burst into tears. All lovingly captured by the camera. And I just remember watching all this and thinking "That's not a prank, that's just cruel."

[@t.matthies3049]

There's a quote going on around online that says something about pranks being meant to confuse, not hurt people. If it hurts someone, even if unintentionally, you apologize and don't do similar "pranks" in the future.

[@atinyevil1383]

Story one, unpopular opinion, ESH. OP obviously sucks for yelling at someone at someone else’s wedding, but MIL is the AH for telling her 5 year old grandchild that she doesn’t want anything to do with the grandchild because they don’t like her mother. I don’t know why the in laws have no contact, I don’t really care. There’s no reason to speak to a small child that way. It’s not the time or the place to say that at a wedding.

[@zerobolt9506]

Yesssss why are the commenters overlooking the fact MIL told a kid her love was condition and she doesn't fit it.

[@atinyevil1383]

@@zerobolt9506 it also sounds like MIL said this at the wedding. I could be wrong, but that would also mean that she started shit at someone else’s wedding. By the logic that makes OP the AH, MIL should also be the AH.

[@WyntheRogue]

Story 4: Absolutely NTA, good one on the OP for letting his spine stay in a sparkly shine and sticking by wifey, the entitlement of his mom and sister is absolutely mindblowing.

[@OZARKMOON1960]

#3 - OP is NTA. How is telling a spouse a beloved pet has cancer a 'good memory to look back on'? WTF. He's lucky OP did not run his ass over in the car. That is not okay, and these kinds of pranks or practical jokes are hurtful and - as in this specific case - devastating to those being pranked. OP needs to get a little distance and he needs counseling to understand how much this is going to ruin his marriage to her!

[@bobbyjay205]

I would be homeless if I did anything half that bad.

[@wargamesmaster]

I would be in jail for attemped murder if anyone "pranked" me like that.

[@lizgawin899]

@@bobbyjay205 my father died of cancer in my senior year and my grief made me and my grandmother, who i live with to help her out, flat out forget about my prom but with his death hanging over us it was likely for the best that we forgot. the last time i saw him he was too weak to say anything out loud but my grandmother still swears to this day that he told me he loved me

[@bobbyjay205]

@@lizgawin899 i'm so sorry. My dad died in his 60's. Youngish I was already an adult in my 30's. i also had time to grieve and come to terms while he was alive. I'm sorry for your loss. I'm sure if he couldn't say it, he was thinkg it. Sorry you missed your prom too. It really sucks you had to go through this so young. Much Love.

[@lizgawin899]

@@bobbyjay205 thank you.

[@jimdob6528]

Story 3 slap the shit out of him. NTA. Beat that man into a divorce.

[@susanlayton2143]

In story 4: OP is NTA and good on him for respecting his wife enough to do what he did. His family is acting like he made them wait months, not days to see or hold his child, he did not but it would have been perfectly acceptable if he did. I don't know why some people think they have the right to others' children on their schedules and not the parents'. I am a grandmother and I did not see my youngest grandchild until she was almost a month old.

[@carolroberts4614]

I have a new great grandson and I don't know when I will be able to see him,and they are only 15 miles away,but lockdown!

[@TheDecoCottage]

Anyone who thinks dad in this situation is an AH needs to rethink. Good on him for making sure his wife was able to meet their child before anyone else. That’s a good dad and partner. I had a c-section with our first baby and our families didn’t come visit until the next morning so my husband and I got about 12 whole hours with baby by ourselves. With our second (born during Covid) my delivery was uncomplicated but only my husband was allowed at the hospital with me. We went home after 24 hours and our oldest was the first to hold their new sibling.

[@francinetitherington4060]

I put a "Dislike" on this post because I really Dislike what the lockdown did to people and Dislike that you haven't seen the little one, especcially with what is coming to light more and more about Covid

[@SkiesOfYellow]

Last Story: OP's family is AWFUL. It's terrible that his family feels entitled to hold the baby before the mother. It's bad enough that a bunch of people barge in on the parents hours after babies are born and keep them away from the parents so they can get pictures, but to do it while a parent is unconscious? Fuck that noise. When my twins were born, I barely got to hold them at all in the hospital. You know who missed out on bonding? Me. My husband. Not the freaking parade of family members that kept coming in and scooping one or both of my babies out of my arms. I was actually really glad that I got pregnant during the pandemic this time because I knew that I would actually get bonding time with my child this time around. The only person in the hospital with me was my husband, and we got to really interact and spend time with our son. Since we've left, the only people that have met my son in person are my father and his partner because they've been watching the twins during doctors appointments. I'm really glad that OP stood up for his wife when she could not. He did a great thing and his family needs to back off. They missed out on literally nothing.

[@owl7072]

Honestly, with the way you and the story described it, it sounds like people just turn zombie like when babies are born but instead of groaning and growling they're cooing and giggling, trying to get inside the room so they can hold the baby and take pictures

[@TheDecoCottage]

This guy is definitely not the AH in this situation. Major kudos to him for making sure no one else got to meet their baby before mom.

[@mask938]

What kind of asshole just snatches a baby from its mother’s arms?!

[@owl7072]

@@mask938 entitled ones unfortunately

[@Perceptionreflection]

I was the last to hold my daughter because I almost died after they removed her. It traumatized me as someone with anxiety and ptsd, and it took years to heal. Good for that man who protected his wife.

[@ShatoraDragondore]

Story 3: I don't care what his "reason" is those are not pranks they are cruel gaslighting with the last living link to OPs sister. And the fact he won't say sorry for going to far, Who the fuck thinks calling from the vet with fatal news about a dog is a joke, It's time to look for a new man.

[@jesterbrown90]

Story 3: NTA: "You shouldn't have left me at the clinic" it's just a prank, bro. I'd leave him, but if you want to give him a chance, drag him to a therapist.

[@et5895]

"Your reaction is priceless/worth the yelling... " meaning he doesn't care about your feelings at all. "We all grieve in different ways" is not an excuse to be crappy.

[@carolcarol9982]

Next time your sadist of a husband "Pranks" you about Ollie, KNOW he's lying, call him back in a few minutes and tell him you were so worried and in such a mess you've been in a car accident and then direct him to the nearest Emergency Room. What? You were just "Pranking" him. Why's he over reacting like that? He'll look back on it one day and laugh. And he may love the dog Ollie, but Ollie is at risk because your husband seems to be escalating.

[@LadyCheshire95]

Story 4: NTA you respected your wife's wishes. Due to disability if I have children I would need a c section, I would hate to look at photos or even look back knowing I was the last person to hold my child. That sort of pain can eat you up inside for a long time.

[@thecoolgrandma7208]

TOTALLY NTA!!!! What a great husband and father. You and you wife are the ones who are entitled to hold your child after their birth. Make this a tradition with your wife that you two are the only ones to see and hold your children after birth for x number of days. Newborns have no memory of their first few months, and besides the babies are being handled by doctors and nurses so they are being exposed to more than just the parents 😉

[@ShatoraDragondore]

Story 4: NTA Wife wanted to be the first to hold her child (that wasn't medical staff) MIL and SIL and everyone else that didn't take part in making the child get to hold the child when the parents tell them they can. Period. The child's age is being counted in Hours and Minutes there is noting in that time that will shape their life going forward.

[@ajbmadmum]

That last story : NTA in anyway shape or form , mother and sister however, big massive arseholes . OP did the right thing in not letting anyone else, apart from himself , hold the baby until his wife could . The mother and sister are being totally ridiculous . I was at the hospital when my daughter was in labour as support for her and my Son in law, and she ended up having a c-section due to complications . When the nurses brought my Grandson to my Son in law, while my daughter was still in surgery, my son in law offered for me to hold their son , but I refused to hold him until she could . As much as I would have loved to have that cuddle, I am a firm believer that parents should always be the first ones to hold their child . I did get my cuddle eventually after she held him and fed him for the first time, and I was more than happy just with watching my baby hold her baby, especially as we came close to losing them both .

[@winsterphilipp347]

Torturing your wife emotionally with psychological abuse, sounds like fun memories. Do you even want to stay married?

[@carolcarol9982]

Uh, no, MIL told a child that they aren't in contact because one of the childs' parents "Hurt FIL". Guess what? That child now most likely thinks FIL got beat up.

[@zerobolt9506]

I can see it being an ESH, but I feel like MIL baited OP, also love how everyone was overlooking the fact that MIL basically told a kid that her love is conditioning and she doesn't fit that condition.

[@CreepyBlueAnimals84]

Telling someone their dog has cancer is NOT a prank!! It is downright evil and if this were my husband...I can't say it on here!!! OH MY GOD THAT IS EVIL!!!

[@whittersricchy4825]

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[@bobbyjay205]

Much Love

[@AndreNDP]

Next driver's license, I think.

[@karab7626]

Today's project while listening to Mark: starting stew in the crockpot.

[@tinkrebelle]

nice, what kind of stew are you making?

[@jazzywarrrior1414]

For me, I made my own 6inch sammich with extra bacon and all the mustard I want since subway won't do that for me.

[@Penelope9441]

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[@rosetyler1434]

Fancy pants :)

[@teabiscuits4073]

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[@canadalovesanime3137]

story 1: I would have told the daughter that no that is not your grandmother, she is just the woman who raise her parent. She wants to be petty and lie to a 5 yr old, she can be called out on it. I would not have yelled or "caused a scene", just calmly stated this fact. Yelling at the wedding wasn't the best(was an *sshole move), but she did give incorrect information to a child she had NO business even talking to. The 5yr old never addressed MIL, she responded to her cousin. MIL was the one picking a fight by using the children. Slight ESH (mostly NTA) story 2: He is barely doing his job. Mummy dearest is making excuses for him/interfering with his work, and demanding access to information she has no right to? I would get a lawyer, file for a no contact order, and give him ONE final warning. Then; if any of the mentioned behaviours/incidents continue, he is gone. OP; it is not worth the stress. NTA story 3: These are NOT pranks; this is psychological ab*se. This "man" is sick and needs serious help. OP getting upset and the "reactions are priceless" comments are more than enough. OP; please get away from this person, make sure the dog is chipped and get a restraining order. This is NOT normal behaviour from a "loving partner". NTA story 4: OP did the right thing. Babies are not party favours to be passed around, and the mother SHOULD be the first person to hold HER newborn. The grandmother/aunt are obviously to immature to be around such a vulnerable little human. NTA x 1000

[@mimiandy1683]

As an American, who is a timekeeper for a company, yes, "over-billing" a.k.a. "stealing time" is a good and legal reason to terminate employment.

[@shecoda4402]

Story #3 OP NTA OP's husband giant AH. OP's husband is downright cruel and sadistic. He deserved to be left. He is not going to stop. Why he is acting like this doesn't matter. He is deliberately choosing to do hurtful behavior. Notice these are his only his memories to laugh at, no one else is laughing. I wouldn't just leave him at the clinic, I would leave him period. Please, please no kids. Kids don't deserve this kind of sadistic behavior in their life. If OP divorces he still will get them 50% of the time. She won't be there to mitigate the damage. Putting innocent kids in harms way would be 100% OP's fault if she chooses to have children by him. Can you imagine OP's daughter's tears and OP's son acting just like daddy? By the way, bystanders, friends and family will all be wondering why OP is putting up with this and will think it odd of her for not getting out of the situation.

[@scousemouse9566]

Story 4, NTA, when i had my youngest child i died a few times and was in ICU, my SO was the first to hold her and no one else held her till i woke up. They are TAH not you. Loved the video, thanks Mark

[@sammymb07]

Story 3: I know people on reddit loves to suggest divorce for every mini thing but this a 100% divorceable offense for me. NTA

[@katwiltz1134]

Sounds like he wishes it would have been a prank when they called to tell him his dad was dead and this is just a very sick Twisted way of watching other people grieve with what he thinks is without consequences man needs therapy

[@elizabethmartin6707]

Story 4: Robbing the son of interaction with the relatives? Babies don’t remember the day they’re born, the first meetings are for the adults (aka the parents) to remember. Do the family members not think they’ll get the opportunity to see the baby later, or did they they think they were more entitled to hold him than the woman who nearly died to give birth to him? Smh

[@ScooterBond1970]

I keep wondering if this took place in a culture where great emphasis is given to extended family, thus "explaining" the relatives' entitlement. (hope that doesn't sound too offensive, I can only speak from a 'Western' viewpoint) I mean, the way they treated the mom's condition as an afterthought is crappy at best, but if their particular culture normalizes hefty extended family involvement (again, no offense) it would explain why they wanted to see the baby at least.

[@OmniscientlyMe]

Story 3: The husband needs serious therapy. All his nasty pranks seem to involve other people losing someone important and started after he lost someone important. If he refuses to address the issue, you'll probably have to leave. In a related note: A lot of people here need to learn to get past their initial anger about a situation before responding.

[@madamdm1769]

Story 3: leaving him at the clinic? That psychopath would have been locked out of my goddamn house! Pranks 'confuse, not abuse' their targets. since he's already lost friends over this its worrying he still finds nothing wrong with it. Going out on a limb here and saying something is not right with him upstairs.

[@barbarastorball2117]

How is making someone think their dog has cancer a good memory to look back on? The husband is inconsiderate and borderline being abusive with these pranks that clearly are hurtful and not funny. The husband needs therapy to get help to deal with his issues that came up after his father's death.

[@louellacharlton4425]

@@barbarastorball2117 I cannot think of anything else to add! Thanks

[@liagotosleep264]

Story 3 NTA dang, that’s abusive and unreasonably cruel

[@bluexwings]

Close or skin-to-skin contact is super important for newborns (especially premies). It helps regulate their heart rate, reduce stress, and stimulate growth hormone production. So hopefully the dad was able to provide that, but I would feel a little bad for the baby if he didn't get that while the mom was recovering.

[@dougmartin2007]

Story 2; yes fire him. Overbooking is a fire-able offense and even a prosecutable one. His mom is not your responsibility, nor should it be a burden for the company.

[@KCCAT5]

1. Esh. this whole family's got issues. 3. Nta. Some of those mean pranks or a passive-aggressive way of just being mean. 4. Nta. Your wife's family is entitled. Wtf?

[@zerobolt9506]

Yes thank you, 1 I think MIL might have baited OP, but that's besides the point, the main thing is everyone overlooking that the MIL told a kid her love was conditional and that she doesn't fit that condition.

[@taylie673]

@@zerobolt9506 no she doesn’t want a relationship with them because op husband assaulted mil. But all love is conditional

[@thebestscientificmethod9304]

@@taylie673 no where is that even remotely hinted

[@taylie673]

@@thebestscientificmethod9304 yeah i read another story by the same op where she talks about what happened, with mil and fil. Go to actual reddit and someone should have linked it in the comments.

[@thebestscientificmethod9304]

@@taylie673 god damn changed from ESH straight to massive YTA

[@DanielJAudette]

Son should not have given his mom the user name and password. That is a major breatch of security

[@wmdkitty]

Story 1 -- OP is leaving out crucial details. WHY did the in-laws go no contact? People don't do that without a darn good reason.

[@joimumu]

I agree we have like 30% of the info we should get 50% at least

[@oldwoman5942]

The prank story...the husband is abusive and psychotic!

[@stephaniehub2413]

Honestly. Having beloved pets pass away, and someone joked that my pet had cancer or ran away would send me into an absolute fury. Divorce papers would be handed out. I can take a joke but not jokes like that. There is a line and he crossed it.

[@virtualatheist]

Mother and sister... Never mention this again, or you won't see the baby... EVER!

[@bluejaywoman3421]

At that age babies can't even see clearly. Mom and aunt are insane. My inlaws live in another state and don't travel, they didn't see my child for almost a month. It had no effect on their relationship.

[@sprats1241]

Story 3: I enjoy dark humor which I know can offend people. The husband, however, is using sadistic humor which appeals only to sadists and he needs some kind of therapy if it’s only recently started happening. Maybe it’s linked to the father’s passing, but they have been married only a year. Maybe it’s his true nature.

[@JayeEllis]

Story 4: NTA - The person who birthed the baby gets ultimate 'dibs' over everyone else. Good for you for listening to your wife's concerns, acting accordingly, and sticking to your guns. THAT is precisely what a partner does, extended family's feelings on the matter be damned.

[@amalielk]

Story 4: Oh wow. It would never occur to me to get angry about not being allowed to hold a baby, even outside of the circumstances OP and his wife found themselves. I totally understand how devastating it would have been to his wife waking up four days after birth and being the only one in the family not having greeted her newborn baby. OP did the right thing, and his mother and sister are horrible people.

[@MrMrSockhead]

Day: 80 of telling Mark that he is wonderful and deserves the world

[@chickennuggets12345]

He does

[@fear6925]

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[@yef7178]

Lol i love how ur profile pircture fits whit the message

[@fear6925]

@@yef7178 wuh

[@TheMimiSard]

And his Rs are valid.

[@riceracm]

13:12 _Said he was trying to make good memories to look back on and laugh at...._ Ah yes, “you remember that time I cruelly pranked you into thinking a beloved family member was _gravely_ ill and then separated from me until we could get couple’s counseling?” Good memories indeed! 🤨🙄🥳

[@moonbear5929]

Second story: Ugh, sounds like mommy dearest is horribly overbearing and a control freak and it's breaking down her son. If he wasn't improving I would fire him, but he is trying to improve. I think his biggest problem is his mother. OP should tell the boy's mother to get lost and stop interfering. If she doesn't back off, then OP would have no choice to drop her son because her interfering is causing problems. So, she either shuts up and butts out and her son keeps his job, or she keeps up her crap and son loses his job and the work environment can get back to normal. It's up to her because both she and her son are on a VERY thin line right now! So, if he gets canned, it's HER fault! If she could possibly back off, it might give him breathing room and he might improve even more. Last story: Babies bond with those who are in first contact with them. A baby's strongest bond should be with the parents, it's really important. OP was right not to have any one else hold the baby until his wife was well enough to. It was only 4 days, that's no reason for his mother and sister to pitch a fit over it. I believe the baby should just be with the parents for the first few days anyway. To have that private quiet time alone with their new little baby. If the parents let you hold their baby, it's a privilege, not a right. Doesn't matter if you're the grandmother or aunt to the child. You have no right to that baby unless the parents are alright with it.

[@songohan3321]

To be honest, in the second story, kinda wonder what other problems the kid in question is having. Someone as overbearing as her can't have a good effect on his mind.

[@marianhoblyn1901]

I had a c-section 40 years ago. Things were done differently then, and when I finally woke up, my parents and husband had all held my baby. I wasn't allowed to hold him until I had seen the consultant, and had to watch while other people held and fed my baby. It was heart breaking, so yes I agree with Op. It took weeks to form a bond with my son, because I felt like I didn't deserve him. Mother and sister need to do one. Not their baby, not their decision.

[@cheskydivision]

Hubby did great if ppl can't understand that you wanted wife to hold baby first then screw them. . Baby's mom is the most important person here.

[@susanlosey9511]

That kid chose the consequences of his action. Maybe loosing his job will wake him up to change his work ethics. NTA.

[@josmeijers2818]

story 3: that boy would be piking up teeth of the floor ! WTF !

[@heather.c]

Story 3: NTA. It's not funny to use Ollie as part of cruel pranks. OP has every right to be mad and leave him at the clinic. Doing pranks like that at the expense of getting OP's "reaction" is cruel.

[@susanlosey9511]

#3 story! WARNING! WARNING! MAJOR RED FLAGS! #1 calm your self, then sit your husband down tell him to get himself therapy! If he gaslight you or ignores you… take Ollie and leave his ass and give him divorce papers! He is abusing you and causing you to have panic attacks. His “pranks” are not pranks it’s abuse! NTA! Get out you and your dog are in possible serious trouble!

[@JayeEllis]

Story 3: NTA - That's just not normal. Your husband takes delight in continuing to cross other people's clearly expressed boundaries. Either he gets help or he gets gone.

[@whothegnuareyou8682]

Bloke who stopped his family holding his son, his family need to get some lessons in empathy.

[@gaxalee7392]

In story 4, I’d be terrified that people that feel that entitled to get to hold/hug my child would punish/gaslight them for not wanting “grandma’s kisses” or “auntie’s hugs” and completely ignore bodily autonomy and consent.

[@flamelily2086]

Story 2 NTA if he isn't doing the job properly and his mother is harassing OP constantly then he should be sacked. His mother needs to learn to stop interfering with his work.

[@kay9520]

For the mom interfering in the young worker, document his issues, and consider counseling him that he needs to learn to deal with his issues without the involvement of his mother. Let him know that she cannot hold his hand forever, and if he has any hope of ever being truly employable, he needs to learn to deal with his own issues.

[@winsterphilipp347]

Hand him divorce papers in the evening. The next morning just say "it's just a prank bro." Take a video of it, in 30 years you'll look back at least the fun times.

[@Mewse1203]

You are right to have empathy for the guy in the first story. Through only minor fault of his own, he's about to lose his job. The kid is trying to improve and is only going to hurt her kid. Edit after update: still have empathy but he got a 2nd chance and fucked it up

[@mpmansell]

Story 2: NTA. I think that OP doesn't really have a choice. This kid is dishonest and a security risk. Maybe enough of a risk to endanger the program. If it is reasonable to do so in OP's region, they should consider contacting authorities regarding the mother's accessing the system without permission. Maybe being prosecuted for criminal access to secure systems, and possibly investigated to find out why she wanted access to minors' information, might 'calm' her down.

[@FanFicnic]

Story 4: Unbelievable. Their daughter in law was in a coma for four days??? And they are acting like this?????? Absolutely not.

[@broken_queer_but_fighting8589]

Whoever is reading this i send hugs and great vibes. Drink water, eat food, nap, take a break, take care of yourself gosh darn it. And if you don't I swear I will find you and keep you in a cottage and take care of you. 🤗🤗💜💜🤗🤗💜💜🤗🤗💜💜🤗🤗💜💜🤗🤗💜💜🤗🤗💜💜🤗🤗💜💜🤗🤗💜💜

[@katiesmith2031]

Hugs and kisses back 🤗🤗🤗💜💜💜

[@broken_queer_but_fighting8589]

@@katiesmith2031 💜💜🤗🤗

[@paden1865able]

Hugs and love to you, taking it easy because I messed my foot up. I'm a klutz, not gonna lie.

[@broken_queer_but_fighting8589]

@@paden1865able oh no I hope it gets better soon💜💜🤗🤗

[@louellacharlton4425]

Good day to you my friend! Hope your day is all you need it to be.

[@selbarton]

1: The nephew isn't that knowledgeable since the one saying that wasn't her grandmother was right. There was no excuse for running after some creating a screaming fit for no reason. OP is a drama queen that has to make a scene and draw attention to herself in multiple situations. Weddings seem to be her time to attack others. 2: It isn't really just the mother. She admits his actions are worth firing for and his letting mommy have full access to his business account he has breached confidentiality for the company which was caught thanks to the mother making it obvious. His inability to follow such basic rules makes it not about the abuse from the mother. He can't handle working and probably had mommy doing his work for him. 3: They aren't pranks. They are emotional abuse. He got so mad for being called out for his abuse his face turned red in anger. His good memories are breaking her. He isn't processing grief. He's lashing out to hurt her because "haha you hurt too". Forget just leaving him at the vet, leave him on the streets with divorce papers on his own. He wants everyone to hurt too so he feels normal. He needs therapy and zero contact with her or the dog. 4: The grandmother and aunt need to get over their concept of being more important than the mother. They didn't need to meet the baby yet. That was the mother's wish - to reduce contact to nurses and the father until she recovered enough, no matter how long it took. 8t could have turned into weeks before she was well enough with daddy on his own at home, but hey, no problem for mommy who wasn't conscious nor had any clue how long that would keep daddy on his own with a new born. There was a risk she would never hold him. So while the family had no room to demand access before mommy, knowing there was no way you know how bad it would get or for how long, setting him up to be the solo parent while waiting for her to recover was short sighted. They got lucky it was just a few days.

[@mimiandy1683]

Re: First story *in NeNe Leakes voice* "Ooh chile... The ghetto! The ghetto!" Was this one of them "Big Fat Gypsy Wedding" people? Cos it sounds like it. ESH.

[@Acidfunkish]

We all rise to the level of our inadequacies... This kid reached that point a lot sooner than most of us, though. 😅

[@mca7982]

Telling OP that her beloved dog has cancer is sadistic. He is emotionally unstable and therapy would be helpful. I would file for divorce... I would have considered divorce after he hide dog saying it ran away.

[@bluejaywoman3421]

Prank story: I wonder if all his pranks revolve around loss of a loved one.

[@bobbyjay205]

If he is using the dog it's a double shot. She got the dog because her sister died.

[@RoadkillbunnyUK]

I had an emergency c section under a general anaesthetic when giving birth to my first child. I had laboured for over 32 hours beforehand and both baby and I were brushing up against death when we went into surgery. My daughter was born 9 minutes after I had left the delivery room and thankfully once born stabilised quickly even though she was a month early. They took her out to meet her dad once she was stable, my mum was with him but refused to hold the baby as it didn’t feel right to her. He dad held her for about 10 minutes and then they took her back to continue to monitor her etc. Now I don’t do well with general anaesthetic at the best of times and this was far from the best. I finally came to over 5 hours later and saw a midwife sitting at the end of my bed feeding my baby. I have never gotten over the sight and my daughter will be 16 in a couple of months. It is burned into my brain and as a result I became very possessive about feeding my daughter, I would have been a bit like that anyway I think as I wasn’t allowed to breastfeed for medical reasons and I know I still feel a resentment about that (especially as under the care of different doctors in a different hospital I was able to breastfeed my younger son for 2.5 years before naturally weening - thank you to the J. R and boo hiss to Liverpool woman’s!) but that image burned into my retinas and the feelings it gave me really drove my possessiveness, particularly about feeding, it took months before I could let my ex husband feed her and absolutely nobody else fed her for the first six months and even then only my mil if she was babysitting (which almost never happened). So yeah, in that last story he isn’t an asshole he is a hero!

[@malcolmholder3149]

Story 3. Pranks are funny surprises not cruel abusive actions. They seem to be escalating and imho will not stop until something serious happens. Divorce is the only option here, he has already lost a number of friends over his pranks now he is going to lose a wife. Good Luck.

[@terramarini6880]

There was a redditor who thought pranks for tik tok were funny until she put her husband in the hospital with a major head injury.. had brain surgery, nearly died. Now she is traumatized and wants to leave it behind (she stopped pranking) but his family now thinks it's funny to say "remember when W nearly killed H" hahaha....Karma's a major B.

[@malcolmholder3149]

@@terramarini6880 Yes I read that one, also another where a kid set fire to a mirror for tik tok and burnt the bathroom down and got his Mom, sister and himself kicked out of their aunts house.

[@carolroberts4614]

And the one where the husbandpretended to his wife that he'd done a paternity test ,and said the baby wasn't his(after ignoring her and baby for 2 days)

[@amanur1518]

Title Story: I think OP was right to fire the kid. It ultimately will be a good lesson for the kid that there are some things you can't come back from and eventually you run out of chances. Sometimes people who work with teenagers can be too supportive and give them too many chances but that's not how the real world works. It's better for him to get fired from this afterschool job and learn that he can't get away with falsifying timesheets rather than being given infinite chances to improve taking that attitude with him into his adult life.

[@izzlebizzle9581]

Story 4: Is anyone else confused as hell about OP’s wife being unconscious for 4 days??

[@madisonwaycaster9832]

Story3: A call like that is never- EVER a prank and it is not acceptable. I would be taumatized if someone did that to me and then said "JK" as if that made the fear and panic just go away. No, not acceptable. I'd throw his ass out with the garbage

[@TheComedyGeek]

If my husband pulled that "prank" : "I love you dearly, baby. So I have decided to let you live. But.... RUN. "

[@whiskeyontherocks]

So because husbands dad died suddenly he's allowed to "prank" people in a cruel way? Please explain the logic behind that

[@cynthiaholland13]

Husband needs grief counseling. He is handling his grief through mean pranks

[@fairladykd6734]

A C-Section kept her unconscious for 4 days? That sounds like more was wrong than an emergency c-section. Women aren't even put under for a c-section. But Good on OP for not letting anyone else hold the baby. Letting them see him would have been ok though.

[@mpmansell]

Story 3: NTA. That is more than enough reason for divorce (and serious bodily harm)

[@christianvacchelli1953]

Story 3:It's a Prank! NTA ,there are pranks and pranks , but OP husband seems to be having a serious problem of pranks

[@threeducks157]

I nearly had a freaking stroke when I heard that the mom had access to work systems...

[@spacetofu5306]

Story 2: I work in a work study program for highschoolers and I could definitely say that OP is NTA. The fact the mother has access to company assets is a security breach and no one is going to take it lightly. Im also required to fill out time cards and if I get caught lying, I would be punished and yeah the kid should know better, even though he is improving.

[@NeoLotex]

Story 3: F'er should be glad he wasn't kicked in the balls multiple times. All these good memories "Do you remember the time you told me might dog might die because you're a f'ing pos? Yeah, me too. Good times."

[@ladybyrd2912]

My husband did the same. I had an emergency c-section. He made sure no one else held the baby until I did so that I wasn't robbed of that precious moment

[@fairladykd6734]

You were knocked out?

[@ladybyrd2912]

@@fairladykd6734 well. .. in the heat of the moment I made the mistake of arguing with the anesthesiologist. So he put me out for most of the c section

[@Icalasari]

Second Story: I mean, just the mother having access to the son's account is enough to fire because she doesn't have permission and this counts as a security leak. If I was Security/IT there, I'd be cutting that account off ASAP

[@notoriousd.i.g.87]

Story 4: "Robbed son of interactions early on" That is the most stupid thing I've ever heard. That baby ain't gonna remember a God damn thing, he was just born.

[@sirikalapu1234]

My favourite hello: "What is up waffle gang? I do hope you are well! My name is Mark.." 😁 My hardest goodbye: "And once again guys thank you for being here" 🥺

[@stephenlundy5082]

Story 2: OP NTA yet. Just be aware that part of leading a team is to discipline your employees when it is required, that includes firing someone who deserves it. Your senior management team is not only watching this guy who is screwing up, they are also watching you. If you cannot bring yourself to do what is appropriate, then that will be career limiting for you as well. Showing up late, yet charging for time, granting access to non-employees to sensitive information, all of that is fireable offenses.

[@notevenlistening6072]

My sister in law can be a pushy boundary stomper, but even she made sure I held my baby in NICU before she did, even though she had opportunity.

[@salty8219]

My dad told me I wasn't allowed to hold my oldest brother because it could upset my step mother, as it's common for new mothers to want to hold their babies before anybody else. I understood and was just exited about my first brother/new sibling, I also knew I would be able to hold him eventually. I was also told, but I don't remember by whom, my mother went through the same thing with my sister's and I. The only time I've had a problem with holding/not holding a baby was when I was given my second brother on the first day I got to meet him. At first it was a normal hold but ended with me holding him for an hour or so while my dad and step mother did their best to control my older brother and figure out how they were going to feed my younger brother. This was at most 2 days after giving birth and the nurses refused to help because my step mother wasn't able to breastfeed her son. I walk away with this. When a mother has given birth but priorities with both hospital staff and family should be the baby and the mental and physical recovery of the mother. If helping the mother recover means no one can hold the baby before she does *other than hubby*, then so be it.

[@jessicawolfe5861]

Story 4: um this is why moms are discouraged from talking about traumatic births. As if it wasn’t a big deal for her to be out for 4 days. Mom and sis are being dismissive and entitled.

[@homersimpson5821]

Cancer is nothing to joke about.

[@jacegallagher8589]

Title Story: Go ahead and fire the kid. He has committed several fireable offenses and is not the type of leader the program tries to assist. Also, if you keep tolerating his behavior, eventually others will follow or morale will drop.

[@15oClock]

1. You can see what made people cut off OP; this freak lives for drama. You usually don't see it from this perspective. 2. This isn't about just a dramatic mother; this is about two liabilities! The company couldn't afford either one in the end. 3. Ollie shouldn't be used to pull these disturbed pranks. I don't care if we know why; it excuses absolutely nothing! 4. Sweet gesture there, and probably smart too, considering he was a preemie. OP's a good husband and father and that's enough.

[@louellacharlton4425]

Yep enough said

[@lillianrhiannon]

That last one - seriously? I didn't meet my youngest nephew until THREE MONTHS after he was born! And we live in the same city!

[@KuroAlis]

Story 3: I would have dumped him on the spot, chucked his stuff on the street and never let him back in the house

[@adelina513]

Story 1: The kid should have been fired for overbilling and security breaches (his mom being on the system). OP might have felt bad, but he was putting the company in danger from these people by not handling it sooner. And as for the kid, he needs to learn to stand up for himself. Many people have said they will not hire those with interfering families. So, he's in for a world of economic hurt if he doesn't improve his work ethic and keeps his mom out of his work life. That said, it is not OP's job to teach that. His colleagues and clients should not be suffering under an ineffective, lazy, aggressive employee. Story 3: That husband is an utter prat! Any time someone purposefully upsets someone else, it is NOT a joke. It's only a joke if both people are laughing at the end. Honestly, after multiple "pranks," the thing with the dog is absolutely unacceptable. It's entirely possible I would have punched/slap the prick for what he did. A divorce lawyer would be my next call. Actually, I already would have divorced him for his previous behavior. Joking about someone dying is also a major dick move. I don't blame his former friends for dropping him. This guy is flat-out sociopathic and he will get worse.

[@Jay-sv9kf]

I got my new bed yesterday and today I'm cleaning up the rest of my room :D so glad I can listen to you while being productive :)