日独カッ飛びセダンBATTLE!!【Best MOTORing】2008

日独カッ飛びセダンBATTLE!!【Best MOTORing】2008
ENTRY CAR
MERCEDES BENZ C63 AMG
BMW E92 M3 Sedan
LEXUS IS F
NISSAN SKYLINE 350GT
DRIVER
土屋圭市 / Keiichi Tsuchiya　　井出有治 / Yuji Ide
影山正美 / Masami Kageyama　　荒 聖治 / Seiji Ara
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[@sarifuchs]

The BMW is very well balanced.

[@タヒね]

それぞれの運転手の運転中のコメントがなんか好き

[@LukeDogg20]

I like them too even though I can understand a single word

[@hondatoyota8959]

5:05音惚れるわ~

[@syrupse]

スカイライン、ビリ転落したけどその周のインフィールドではちゃんとついていけてるんだよな・・・ 排気量の差でどうしてもストレートでかなり離されるけど

[@n-acetyl-5932]

M3めちゃくちゃ回るな・・・すげえ

[@井坂馨-x7u]

ヨーロッパのツーリングカー選手権のクルマそのものですよね👌👍

[@jamlarna]

You guys are absolutely brilliant! Don't care which car wins as long as you give it your everything and have fun! And to see cars that normally can overwhelm most drivers being pushed to there absolute limit is Awsome! Ps that m3 drifting while you blip the throttle ❤️

[@ND-xy7ti]

この時代はまだM、F、AMG全て大人しめなデザインですね。

[@wiz8056]

ND 1029 大人しめのデザインが好きです。 なんというか、家族に馴染める、というか だから2代目のアルファード好きです

[@ultra4818]

_NeUTroN_ ありゃあ下品だろ笑笑 普通にアルファードは初代が一番良かったよ。 3シリーズはF30まではぎり落ち着いてる感じあるよね。G20はちょっと、スポーティ

[@まーさん-u5o]

エンジンはぶっ飛んでるよね

[@ashish_z9]

The guy driving the C63 is Keiichi. He did the drift scenes in tokyo drift, remember the folks fishing by the harbor. What a guy!

[@BlitzkriegRap]

True, tokyo drift the last good fast&furious haha

[@tylercouture216]

​@@BlitzkriegRap I agree one of my favorites

[@soundseeker63]

How could you ever expect the Skyline 3.5V6 to keep up with a C63 or an M3? It had no chance! The ISF did well though, but the M3 is just a weapon. Perfect balance and precision. Just the right amount of power for the chassis. No wonder you always see BMWs at track days! They were built for it! The C63 is more like an American muscle car by comparison.

[@mouf237]

0:26 this intro is just too good

[@AudiRS6power]

C63 and M3 are clearly holding back

[@pgr3290]

Yet again I could pick the winner before even watching the video. The M3 was streets ahead dynamically of it's rivals back then.

[@MD-uu5nt]

It's a pity the updated ISF never seemed to get tested in any videos. The 2011-2014 ISF had a LSD and a totally changed suspension setup. It was supposed to be a big improvement according to all the magazine reviews and able to rival the M3.

[@sudhikrishna2655]

Ya predictable coz u know this channel promotes BMW only.😀

[@jules7544]

@@sudhikrishna2655 Yeah sure, a japense youtube channel wants to promote a german company...

[@derwolf200]

BMW is very good at handling corners, but on the straights acceletation it gets smoked by the AMG. So: BMW-->Handling Master AMG-->Acceleration/Speed Master

[@tylercouture216]

​@@jules7544 what's wrong with that ? even if it's not true

[@gwgn4588]

M3イイ音

[@СункарКайдарович]

BMW сила! На финише еще им дрифт показал… Не сомневался что БМВ первым придёт

[@loooopeytunes]

A terrific handling for BMW! 50:50 weight distribution really worked.

[@altomandesu3800]

このM3セダンには最近の0-10 0加速だけで速いと豪語されるハイブリッドセダンを蹴散らして欲しいw

[@ultra4818]

国産のやつ？

[@japaneseanimetv-d9d]

220系とかv37の事か。

[@井坂馨-x7u]

このクルマはやや重いボディーにツーリングカー選手権のマシン並みの超がつく高回転型のエンジンなので0-100km/h微妙😶🙃🏎️⏱⏱

[@MarkVinewood]

This one of my favorite Best Motoring races. I wonder how well the IS F would do with the updated rear differential.

[@bunedicto]

Wow, this is legit. It'll be so cool to watch this back in 2008

[@bunedicto]

All of them looked like pros and are having fun racing, 2 things rare in today's motoring shows

[@bunedicto]

Only if I know what they said XD

[@Aquineas]

Entertaining, but also highly predictable outcome, though I am surprised at how much fight the IS-F put up.

[@jgbalves]

I actually thought the merc would win. But it looks too punishing with the tires

[@teslaboi1822]

Both C63 and IS F are heavy because they have more luxury features and it's more for everyday road use rather than track.

[@dannyliu9344]

@@teslaboi1822 isf has very narrow tyres from factory

[@TheLegend-wm9wr]

@@teslaboi1822 Agreed, Back in those days the C63 is just a regular luxury c class with a massive v8

[@aaryeshg.6526]

@@jgbalves the brakes fade quicker on Merc as well. Mostly because how quickly it accelerates (all that low end torque).

[@taelorwatson9822]

Wow the skyline down 100hp and doesn't even have the upgraded brakes. I am surprised it lost..lol

[@Gchang54]

That's why its starts infront of the grid

[@哲高橋]

この頃スカイライン350万位か、今の世の中から振り返ると安過ぎる位に感じてしまうな。350万の車として見れば悪くねんだろうけど周りの車が厳しいな。 ブレーキ止まらないのはもう、しゃあないわ、AT警告出したり、水温警告なかっただけまだマシだろう。まず基本サーキット走っちゃだめなんだろうな レクサスやC63は難しい動きしてたけど、それらのトラブルなく高出力出してんだから　それだけでも凄いよ。買う人はほとんどサーキット走らないだろうが、ネタ車じゃなくこれだけ走りきれるんだからその時点で凄い。M3はそれらも踏まえてドア4枚あって尚奇跡みたいなバランスだ

[@Ebisu-Yoshikatsu]

スカイラインすごいよ、、排気量も価格も他と段違いなのに

[@losangeles5013]

めちゃめちゃ遅れてるよ

[@143-k9i]

​@@losangeles5013価格がベンツの約1/3だと考えると凄すぎでしょ

[@granderegalia]

レクサスのF ベンツのAMG BMWのMっていういわば純正チューンドモデルに対してスカイラインだけまんま量産モデルですもんね

[@ハミデント-e2x]

この回載せるんなら、M3フル乗車でドリドリするのも載っけてほしかったなぁ あの楽しそうなドリキン達は神回だったかも

[@wgbskate31]

That BMW goes all the way up to 8500 RPM OMGGG

[@rtdt1890]

8分3秒のとこの「止まらない〜｣でなぜが吹いたw

[@47pikomon]

排気量の差的にスカイラインが勝てないのは明白。かわいそうにすら思えますね。しかし、NA3.5リットル同士ならスカイラインは高水準な性能だと思いますね

[@かきぴ-u6l]

SINPURAIN そもそもサーキット走る車じゃないとこ。。比べてもなぁ

[@sasa-fd5bx]

1:16 ISのホイールベースえぐいw

[@drkngt7]

27メートルあるww

[@kseries1981]

Damn, that C63 is a BEAST!

[@mikuelable]

Love the c63 despite the slow auto box

[@fredwilliams7893]

The G35 held its own for little while !👍

[@hiro-k8057]

やっぱ世界のBMW！ヤッホイ！ バランス最高ー！ mスポ卒業してm3乗りたいけど金がない😭

[@jmichael1holmes]

this isnt fair for the G35/Skyline at all :(

[@automotivetv9861]

I agree, I'm surprised it's even on the list *_*

[@darenzy]

Yes, sadly even 3.7 wouldn't be able to do anything.

[@lordsaishu9157]

Darko Darenzy it couldn’t do anything when others all have v8

[@ecoeco2457]

これ見た時はM3一択でした。 　買う寸前まで行って他車になってしまいましたが、、

[@森川巽]

ISFって足硬いのにコーナーでパワーかけられ無いんじゃ何の為に硬くしてあるんや。

[@revlimit81]

お…重たい車重を支えるため致し方無く硬くしただけだから… 超ハイグリップタイヤならよくなるかもしれないから…(震

[@RINKSTT]

リアのバネレートを上げるとリア追従レスポンスが上がるから、よりFRらしい挙動になる。 ただ上げすぎたり、アーム類の設計が悪くてアライメント変化が大き過ぎるとか小さ過ぎるとか、前後のステアバランスが悪いとISFみたいに、アクセル開けた瞬間カニ走りみたいな車になる。 リアのバネレート下げる、フロントのバネレートを上げる、リアのダンパーを締める、とかすればマシにはなると思うけど、根本的には設計ミスな気はする。

[@ecoeco2457]

オーナーの友人によると、いじってやっと実測値で420馬力いくらしい…

[@kanemochi1973]

それが日本車よ

[@おっすオラ悟空-g1u]

というより、前期はオープンデフなんよ

[@カイト-b1c]

オープニングの太鼓の後に、うるせぇーよって聞こえるw

[@心寺田-z2x]

、カイト w

[@食中毒-p8k]

、カイト 確かにw

[@ちゃんいて]

、カイト ほんとやw

[@33対4-e9s]

、カイト それにしか聞こえんかったwwwww

[@f-works2014]

日本も1000万クラススポーツセダン作ってほしいな でも誰も買わないんだろうな その価格帯に手出せる人はたぶん国産車買わないよな

[@iscgtrcfc2464]

GS-Fがありますよ💡

[@ultra4818]

ISC GTRCFC もう廃盤の車じゃん

[@Kim-Honjoong]

ｱ....RCFで....

[@あほあほれんてぃー]

自動車に対する文化の違いもある感じ

[@txprodigy95]

This looked like it was so much fun!

[@sr203076r]

M3 is king!

[@bwest6275]

W204 C63 is a monster 😲

[@ヨル-m7q]

井出さんより、 とーまーらーなーいー

[@mikebaz7843]

The c63 had open diff, judging by how jiggly it was, lol

[@SgtKanyo]

Agreed. It probably didn't have the performance package extra, which had the LSD.

[@AnotherMotorist]

ISF nearly 4000lb with a driver did well and undersized tires. If remaining staggered should be 255/295 or squared 265 or 275 or 285. Updated models with the LSD will fair even better I imagine.

[@ViniciusSilva-rq4jc]

Miss a drift lap between these cars.

[@piyomaru1384]

スカイラインは一番排気量が小さいわけで。。。。 他が4リッター5リッターな訳でw

[@skyline9593]

Hiroaki0804 イイね！しよう思ったけど、数字が数字やからイイねが押せないwww

[@ybmb1121]

スカイライン を BMW 335i, Lexus IS350 とC350比べ合いすれば公正だな。そうなるとスカイライン又は335iが勝つと思う。

[@Banchan1000]

日産3.5リッターの嘘馬力は嫌い

[@ultra4818]

BaeThe3rd 335iがブッチだよ。

[@Potatokun1905]

Vito AKA the Parade Float そんな対決やってたけど335ブッチだったね

[@Diebaas407]

What this video does, is show how good that M-Limited Slip Differential is... That E63 was one wheel drive way too often and it cost it time.

[@RS-nq8xk]

Back then the C63 didn't have an LSD, it was an option. But the M3 was definitely more balanced in corners...

[@altomandesu3800]

この差はもはや排気量、馬力だけの 問題じゃない…。

[@bobah2107]

BMW stability,best car

[@ReaLwez]

E92 M3 Sedan with manual... Oh ma godd!! It's a bless

[@sergiooliveira1127]

E90*

[@loooopeytunes]

E92 is for the coupé.

[@nickamarit]

Ide, the Skyline driver, looks a LOT like the owner of Spoon. Are they related?

[@hiluxsurf215ssrx]

1:18 IS Fのホイールベース27300mmってやべぇな

[@食中毒-p8k]

KuroiroSURF それなwww

[@haru-ey5hn]

巨根ですなw

[@ultra4818]

リムジンかよ笑

[@ms-tk]

バスだろw

[@konstantinaleksandrov258]

ドイツ車が勝つことに疑いの余地はなかった。レクサスは何かを試みましたが、どこに行くべきですか？

[@rahmatharumwidodo1638]

i think m3 sedan even better than its coupe sibling

[@phemical]

これGTRの４枚ドアを出せってことですねｗ

[@go902803129]

春巻うつぽ FR4ドアセダン対決だから、無理です

[@14KShadow]

English Sub titles would be just lovely

[@seoulfulracingcp9354]

starting off that lexus looks so smooth

[@2000年前-q8c]

8:55 Last Run gooddd

[@mrkhan2983]

bad ass drivers .. these people push the cars to such limits where normal person cant !

[@Norcalmotormedia]

BMW did sooo well

[@franomaster1234]

MAN this c63 is a breathtaking dreamcar... real n/a v8 not these new biturbos

[@MDCYF]

AMG simply need a longer straight

[@dennisgypsy3096]

I love that show

[@akitamancom]

スカイラインだけ６気筒。当時のシーマに積んでたＶ８をチューニングしてスカイラインに搭載して、化け物マシンを作れば面白い。あるいはＶＲ３８が載ったセダンとか。

[@Rougai-kissyo]

VR30

[@renarudo1]

I'd want the 350 GT for a daily driver if it came as a manual.

[@occckid123]

renarudo1 it did come with a manual then

[@kensukei6904]

荒さんいいね👍

[@ysan-t7h]

5:58 そんないじめないでぇ💕

[@kouhei88car]

400Rならどのまでやれるのか気になるなぁ

[@losangeles5013]

日産だからねえ

[@ultra4818]

トータルバランスだよね。どれだけコーナー強いか未知数。新世代で比べたいね

[@ataata52]

@@losangeles5013 イメージだけで物言うやつ無理

[@MarkVinewood]

I actually like all these cars but the likelihood is that at this time and year the Lexus is happily home with the 1st or 2nd owner while the Benz and BMW are in the hands of the 3rd or 4th owners, possibly sitting in some shady specialist garage because ain't nobody got the money to repair those at the dealers.

[@SKIF869]

Если бы субтитры хотя бы, я бы все пересмотрел, кстати, кто знает , что за прикол у японяк видосы делать как будто из прошлого ? Мне нравится, просто интересно че за прикол.

[@АлексейПопов-ф1у]

Это не прикол, всё просто, у них нет техники для съемок. Отсталая страна.

[@RC-tu3ru]

Super BMW E90

[@805NAVE]

The Infiniti G37 (Nissan) isn’t an IPL so it’s not fair !

[@mechanicandi1064]

Team Lexus 🙌

[@jonydelacruz5148]

C63 AMG!!!😍😍😍😍😍😍😍🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼

[@menaceIIsociety187]

Lost 😂😂😂

[@임현지-d7o]

DOUBLE BATTLE

[@prosto9995]

What the specs of bmw and merc

[@fuadorucov2643]

Crazy race M3 best of laps C63👍 ISF♥️ skyline shit 🤧

[@iamironman8124]

лексус тут самый топ 💪😎

[@xarups]

What's the music name on the first 2 minutes?

[@狼精優子]

AT限定車レース？

[@ManMak6]

After the taping of this video the BMW and Mercedes overheated, leaked out all the oil, got a ton of electrical faults, and were towed away to their dealers!!! While the Lexus casually drove home!

[@alek493]

Was there ever any doubt?

[@MDFaruk-co9vs]

isf good

[@sudhikrishna2655]

This channel is BMW only channel 😁

[@Fishfingers232]

Poor Nissan lol, why did they even bother comparing it?

[@soldiertosoldier]

これスカイラインかわいそうだろｗ

[@95mushroom]

Nissan with unsafe brakefade? I just don't believe it! .../s

[@dkingjames9820]

very close with benz and bmw... really depends on the driver with those two cars... i cant say that bmw is better , guess driver is better ... very close to call who has better engineering... or maybe the turbo of the m3 kicked in..since c63 is just v8 naturally aspirated

[@A________]

the m3 has NA v8 also but the c63 amg is way powerful.

[@H0LDENSUX]

An extra 40 kw based on today’s GSF 5.0 Litre V8 dded to the ISF and it would of made a big difference in the final results.

[@davidcraig7771]

Yeah and the current c63 and m3 also have more power too

[@marcelk3847]

No, M3 would have won any way

[@baxter009]

Marcel K isf had the best lap time so the driver fucked up. ISF should have won.

[@mikuelable]

@@marcelk3847 transmission let the c63 down it needed Mercedes modern dsg lightning quick

[@lexburen5932]

ISF doesnt need any more power, it needs more balance. it is unstable in corners, because of tires and suspension. Put good tires and suspension on that IS-F and it would have been a big difference, it might not have won from the M3, but definitely from the AMG

[@oshiboriten4207]

レクサスさんmtモデルを作ってくださいよ〜〜

[@guillermosecopalacios1289]

Gran espectaculo gran circuito.like si jugastes a play 2 en este circuito

[@jeffersondejesus5016]

Jajajajaja asi mismo hermano

[@jorecc3015]

BMW M POWER///

[@djorksolo8544]

JORECC About power the benz got much more than the bmw ! But the chassis of the benz really sux, this is why, with less power but better chassis the bmw won !

[@hmong337]

Lexus v8 over eurotrash

[@poorcomboz3577]

hmong337 Lexus v8 lost 😂

[@jvmc84]

Мерседесу явно не хватало резины Мишелин Кап2 для держака.

[@aaryeshg.6526]

Also brakes fade quicker on it

[@TyGaming]

AMG has a big engine for a small sedan

[@Jigsjigz]

No RS4/5/6?

[@井坂馨-x7u]

コメント失礼いたします🙇 昔、1.5トン以下にこだわってスポーツセダン乗ってた身としては これらのセダンはエンジン単体は凄いが、パワーウェイトレシオで見ると微妙。 iSFだってアリストv300プラス10kg。

[@chevychelios9050]

Очень интересно

[@YSekiai]

現行モデルだけどスカイライン意外は乗ったことある。感想は全くこの動画と同じでM3はバランスが素晴らしく、C63 AMGは暴力的加速が凄い。ISはパワー云々じゃなく、シャシー設計自体がまだこれらの車のレベルに達して無いと思う。LC500のシャシーは素晴らしいので日本車でもやれば出来るぞ。ガンバレ！(゜▽゜)

[@阿尔达]

C63 skidding but m3 is drifting thats the different

[@edsonmaleiane2618]

Meanwhile... BMW and Mercedes benz had to take maintenance and lexus only put more fuel

[@Belair-n8h]

今となってはお手頃価格な面々

[@筋肉太郎-f2x]

c63好きだけどサーキットには向かなさそう... 直線番長だよなあ

[@ynom1292]

6.3リッターV8を小柄なCで回す楽しみを味わう車ですから()