シャープに頭が入り、穏やかに流れていくかつてのBMWの味わいはどこに行ったんだろう? E39M5や超パワフルなE60M5でもシャシーのおかげで扱いやすい高性能を持っていたし、挙動の安定感は凄かった マシンと一体になるようなナチュラルな高性能から、暴れるマシンを腕で抑え込む暴力的な高性能になってしまった感が... AUDI RSやAMGと戦うにはこうならざるを得なかったのかな
@ultra48184 жыл бұрын
四駆だもん、挙動が変わるぐらいはわかるでしょ。
@cheeseburger34614 жыл бұрын
@@ultra4818 EからFに変わった頃から昔のbmとは違う感じになった。
@卓尧杜6 жыл бұрын
I want English subtitles
@marcoantoniojacinto57816 жыл бұрын
卓尧杜 Please
@アクロ-j4k5 жыл бұрын
DriftKing Mr.Tsuchiya showed off a brilliant drift! BMW M5 vs Mercedes E63 vs Japanese Sports Car in Fuji Speed Way.
m5 easy win, you can see how much more predictable the chassis is. e63 is all about noise proper drivers car is m5
@剛田剛彦6 жыл бұрын
lol What Tsuchiya said is the opposite of what you said.
@BarbecuedPossum6 жыл бұрын
剛田剛彦 really lol? I speak eng so don't know what he said I was purely basing it on when he turned the E63 into that left and it just let go at the rear and then when it plowed on with understeer into the hairpin. Maybe it's a softer car so is more "predictable" maybe the m5 more snappy but it at least looked as if it was the sharper tool and didn't do unexpected things
@剛田剛彦6 жыл бұрын
I translated random comments from Tsuchiya for you. Never mind my shitty English. 2:30~ ”Let's start with M5. It's AWD and has drift mode” "It's so fast" "This is indeed M series. This is what I expect from M5" "Front grips are good even though it's still first lap" ”It's fast but suspension is distorted. is BMW really okay with this?" "Behavior is sensitive(He said "peaky" but It's Japanese English. It means that "behavior is sensitive, it behave extremely well in limited scope but its controllability is bad beyond the limited scope)" "But this torque and power are fantastic. Indeed, it's M series. Power come even from any rpm" "270km at panasonic" "It's fast. It's noble" "But yeah still peaky. If this suspension set up is more mild, it should be very fun." "oh it won't shift down. Oil temperature is rising, maybe?" "yeah oil temperature or something. Transmission is safe mode. Have tried (drift)so hard to know the limit of the car.” "suspension is stretching?(He said 突っ張る but it's hard to translate). yeah this peaky behavior is maybe because suspension is streching" "straight is 270km but looks like speed limiter is working at 270km" 8:22~ "Alright, next is E63. Let's see how this will be compared with M5" "This is.. I feel like E63 may be faster" "It's mild. The way it slides is also mild. And front grips are good" "This is good. Front grips are so good" "oh front want to go outside. It can be helped because of the weight" "E63 is milder and easier to control than M5" "Turn in is not good, both cars Because front of both cars is heavy" "straight speed.. maybe E63 is faster." "277km at panasonic" "E63 is faster at higher rpm." "It feels more sports car than M5. Behavior, front grips, and how it becomes stable after behaviors, E63 is easier to drive." "But it's jerky here(at 11:50). M5 too. E63 slides more mildly." "The way it slides is smoother and easier to predict." "oh shit the brake won't work. It faded. It can't be helped due to the speed and weight." "But it scared me" "I'll go back to the pit while cooling down the brakes" 13:45~ "It was dangerous. The brakes faded at 277km. Good I was braking before the braking point" "E63 is the fastest in the straight among M5, Z, LC" "E63 accelerates at higher speed but M5 is limited at 270km" "About E63, it has information at the start of sliding. But M5 slides a bit suddenly like Z." "Because of that and mildness, I personally prefer E63" 18:40~ "About behavior, M5 has drift mode but is jerky and sensitive. E63 is mild and inform me the information. Even after the slide, It won't scare me and is controllable. " "In my personal opinion, i prefer E63 because it informs me the information when understeer, oversteer, and after starting to slide."
@frenchtoast-d7u6 жыл бұрын
This is gold for us who don't speak Japanese. Thank you very much :D
@kilogone87816 жыл бұрын
Oh well, no wonder AMG win over M with their sheer experience in racing lately. They know how to build a performance car. Unlike M Division lately, they still plagued with finessing problem. G30 nothing more than F10 with AWD. And they’re still not able to cure their unpredictable magnetic suspension set up.