R&M Delite & SuperDelite Vario/Rohloff Full Suspension Bosch eBike Video Review & Ride Test

[@gordonmorrow4720]

Probably the best product review I have ever seen anywhere. Thank you for taking the time and effort to post such a helpful video!

[@judsonbradley3852]

I dont mean to be offtopic but does any of you know a way to log back into an Instagram account?? I was dumb forgot the password. I would appreciate any assistance you can offer me.

[@ryanwinston5066]

@Judson Bradley instablaster ;)

[@durkadur27]

I can't wait for my superdelite! It's scheduled for a February build(was produced early and on its way now). It's a Rholoff HS GX with Fox upgrade and front rack with the bag. I also got Tannus Armor, aerothan tubes and the new Hiplok d1000 to keep it safe. It's going to be a car replacement for me. A work vehicle and the best beach cruiser in Florida.

[@lamadoo]

Isn't the Hiplok still in production? Congrats on your big purchase bteween,

[@durkadur27]

@@lamadoo thank you! The hiplock is supposed to ship in March so I won't be locking up until then. Ill have to be extra careful. My dealer said I should have my bike by the end of January. They said it was on the ship December 2 but can take up to 4 weeks in customs.

[@prasadsawant4153]

Hey! How’s it going with the Superdelite?

[@justininfrance]

Possibly the best all-round ebike in the world right now, albeit at an eye-watering price very few can afford. The next revolution in ebikes will not be technology, but cost.

[@christill]

The problem isn’t the cost, it’s the society. If you build a society around vehicle grade e-bikes then people will pay for the good stuff.

[@bry2k]

​@@christill The cost of this bicycle is utterly absurd.

[@durkadur27]

@@bry2k could you build one of this quality for Cheaper? Let me know when you do.

[@AJ-ol1zf]

You can buy a budget singlespeed belt drive bike with space for mid drive attachment. Fully convert on your own Same quality for $1500.

[@merson812]

@@bry2konly, if like your obvious limitation, it’s out of ones price range.

[@clay931q]

Thank you for taking the time to make this video. This was for me the definitve guide to my decision to go full-suspension and not hard tail. I appreciate now (and I really failed to understand previously despite watching a dozen vidoes, talking to bike shops and doing online research) that full suspension is partly about comfort and partly about safety. Up to each of us to balance the relative importance of the two. We accept without question that for our cars, the tires must always stay in contact with the road. It sounds crazy to imagine otherwise. Of course the same must be true for our bicycles! GOT IT! I love the style you have take with this video: you are not selling anything, just commenting on what we can see going on as you ride a variey af trails, exactly the same trails I ride. Well done!

[@FiDelZarlar]

Very nice and in-depth presentation as usual! I bought exactly that full spec bike in may ‘20 and I am very “Delited”! It is a lot of money but it’s the best investment in your future! Health is not somerhing you get for free... We bought 2 eBikes instead of a second car and that saves us more €! For my wife we bought an Homage with the same specs (GX Rohloff) but unfotunately that bike was not yet updated... We are both retired (+65) and live in Belgium 🇧🇪 (Europe) and use our bikes every single day for shopping, holidays, fun... These bikes are the MAX!!!

[@ecoworrier]

Hello from Luxembourg. We are neighbours. I'm about 250km from the R&M factory here. Maybe, just maybe i could get there on one charge. My superdelite is due in February - perhaps I could collect it from the factory and ride it home. 🤣

[@desmodromic640]

This was a mind-blowingly good review. It is X-mas evening (2020) and I am nestled in with the intent to see if can be persuaded to sell an e-bike or two to do this!. I have been interested for a while but seeing this? I took your challenge and lost! That control tech is sweet like my BMW motorcycle tech. You sir, do a great job.

[@Vardraq]

Totally love the thoroughness of this video! Thank for this. I had to find this video again and thank you, as it was a big factor in me pulling the trigger on a Superdelite GT Rohloff HS with the GX + Fox suspension. I am waiting for delivery.

[@merson812]

A superb video presentation in all respects. I look forward to my Charger 4 HS being delivered just after Xmas.

[@holyfox94]

Just ordered one🥳 But the Supercharger. I’m a hard tail lover. Anyway: The Rohloff is a must if you’re living in steep terrain. My recent e- bike with Bosch CX (Haibike XDuro 2019, bavarian company) is dying, because the hills here are very steep and the Shimano drivetrain & chain stressed the motor too much. Edit: Changed the order to the suspended Superdelite, Rohloff, GX. You changed my mind. Also can’t wait for the dropper post. Must be great at stops in big city traffic. The GX version has now the new Schwalbe Johhny Watts. Supposedly a grippy tire who is smooth and silent on asphalt and capable of trails/ muddy forestry roads. Can’t test drive right now in Germany because of the never ending Lockdown. So your video was very helpful.

[@rafaelmejia5988]

This is the best bike review I've seen. The bike compares to the Stromer in price. Very, very expen$$$$$$ive. But I'm considering getting one. You convinced me.

[@mikeb1039]

I rode recumbents for 15+ years (butt/hands) and only got back on uprights 8 years ago when I bought a full suspension Haibike that has become my road/mut bike with Super Moto X tires and fenders. If your tailbone is sensitive fs makes a big difference in how long you can ride. Nice to see some street bikes but wish it weren't so expensive.

[@darrenprior6339]

Best presentation on this bike on the net. Thank you

[@clawdawg7248]

Incredibly comprehensive video. Thanks! The Multicharger is for me. I don’t have the off-road requirements, and need the extra cargo capacity - a true car replacement for me.

[@RoissyAngel]

Excellent review. Alas, for it me, a purchase will have to wait until I win the lottery jackpot. Loved looking at the countryside. I am a Stargate fan. I believe they filmed quite a bit on Vancouver Island - I recognised the grey drizzle 🙂

[@ThaldaNukra]

Awesome video. I just ordered my own Delite GT Rohloff in Germany and stumbled across your review on KZbin. Definitely showed me that I made the right decision. Interesting to see that you get motor support up to 32 km/h while we only get it up to 25 km/h.

[@BaronVonHaggis]

my dream bike

[@ericjohnson1472]

An excellent video, I’m in the UK but I now know what model I’m going to get. Thank you very much

[@444ira]

Well Done! Super informative..... everything I was curious about or wanting to know!

[@siucheong]

can't wait to see you test ride the new pinion delite5 when it eventually comes to NA. hoping FIT battery passes NA standards.

[@kolaajibade8846]

Welcome back; it has been a while between postings. I hope you and the family are OK

[@avacadovich]

Thanks. My dog died, my woman ran off with my best friend and I broke a tooth cracking black walnuts when I could not find the nut cracker but otherwise everything is just super.

[@cliveappleton5210]

Excellent review many thanks!! I’m in Australia and thinking of buying this bike for long distance touring

[@stephenminshall3484]

I'm not from Canada but could this be the most skookum review of this bike on youtube

[@eugeniustheodidactus8890]

Such a great bike review!! Considering the super delite Rohloff ;)

[@sunghoonbae9428]

amazing reviews you have on your channel! we need more

[@Mike-ql4sz]

What would you choose between this SuperDelite and same specs Homage for a +50 yo guy, looking for a both city/office comute and trekking leisure trips? Thx!

[@CitrusCycles]

Both are great options, but I really like the step thru feature of the Homage - especially since we don't seem to become more agile as we age!

[@james-p]

Man, that's a sweeeeeet commute! Great vid, thanks!

[@RubenEASalas]

Simply the best review I’ve ever seen. Thanks for taking the time. What do you think about the Delite 4 high speed for a commute of 40km total?/ Today I bike that distance in an e-bike with max assistance of 25km/h. It’s one of those with some resistance once it gets to 25km/h. So it’s hard to go faster than that. And here where I live the bike lanes are great (Copenhagen, DK), so it feels really safe in a good part of the journey, as the bike lanes on the road are completely separated from the cars and only a few people are biking there. Thanks again for the super cool video😊

[@jamesbuchanan3888]

The speed sensor magnet is not integrated into the brake rotor for a good reason. ... Brake rotors get hot. Heat destroys magnets. Thanks for the review.

[@christill]

I have to say I think the older version I have with external batteries looks sleeker when 2 batteries are installed than the SuperDelite. Much prefer the single battery version with a much thinner top tube. Looks so much less like a tank. But if you really need the extra range, I guess you just have to accept the bulky look.

[@garysandhu5082]

My dream bike is the R&M Homage 2021. But I can’t afford it. Is there any other bike in the market that makes a high quality belt driven, rohloff or enviolo hub, with hydraulic disc brakes which is comparable and more affordable? I was thinking Gazelle c380hs but it doesn’t have rear suspension. Thoughts?

[@lamarwilliams185]

Great review of this bike. Very detailed!!! Great job👍

[@smsmyth]

Thank you for the detailed review! will this model get the new smart system ?

[@cyberstonks]

no not yet at least. The Bosch Smart System is only available with single tube 750 wh batteries as well as Enviolo gear hubs.

[@Mike-ql4sz]

Hi, can this bike run on one battery only? (in case one day we don't want to carry extra weight) Thx

[@CitrusCycles]

Yes, you certainly can! R&M even makes a cover to cover the cavity for the battery.

[@clearbluesky2009]

What an awesome review 👍. What do you think about the ABS option? It’s too bad that we can’t combine the Fox suspension upgrade with ABS. I tried an ABS e-bike last week, and I was able to hit both brakes really hard even on a wet surface that was covered with wet leaves. The front wheel was absolutely stable with ABS and didn’t lock at all, while it quickly started to skid on non-ABS models. However, I will be transporting my laptop with this bike as well, and I think the Fox upgrade might be nice to have to protect it from shaking all the time.

[@aggese]

Nice that bosch bother having stuff available in Canada Took me two weeks to get a new battery afthet mine failed, and I am only in Sweden

[@vplph]

That rear rack is great. Finally

[@brekles]

Great review thank you very much ✌️😎 enjoy your ride

[@Jaapstuurboord]

Great and complete review! Thnx a lot!

[@ega9831]

Great review! Its probably all I need to watch before deciding if I want this bike. Which I do :-)

[@M_E_T_R_O__9]

Pricey piece of kit but wow.......... i didnt know this even existed until this video... wondering if its available in the UK?

[@jasonwalsh8512]

Hi love your videos they are very thorough and you have a mellow voice which makes me want to listen. Are u able to do a review on the supercharger2 with the 625 integrated batteries e 14 rolhoff I am trying to decide wether to buy this or the super delight. Regards Jason

[@CitrusCycles]

I'm a bit behind on my video reviews, but I do hope to have a SuperCharger2/Charger3 video ready soon.

[@mauibuilder1239]

I love your videos. They are very informative. I love my Riese and Muller Superdelight Rohloff GX. It's a lot of money but considering I am going to be riding a lot, to me it is worth it. I was wondering if the Bosch Speed motor can be programmed into eMTB mode.

[@CitrusCycles]

We don't have the speed motor here in Canada, but I don't think it can be programmed to eMTB mode.

[@thedimensionsofdavid]

Where to get temporary fenders for the super delight mountain rohloof

[@photoman5943]

nice bike. enjoyed your video. looking for an ebike for future

[@ChristopherJMBrown]

Curious - which colour do you like more? Warm matte silver or Tundra? I'm trying to decide between the two and haven't seen them in person :)

[@jamesmcmillan2656]

The reviews on trust pilot are absolutely savage on waiting times and customer service(with Riese and muller)do you think there’s any truth to those reviews. I’m asking because this style bike would be perfect for my needs, thanks

[@CitrusCycles]

In terms of wait times, R&M eBIkes are custom made in Germany, so if we don't have the bike you are looking for in stock, there will be a wait while it is made for you in Germany. At the time of ordering, we usually have a good idea of how long that will take, but of course that could change, and we make that clear to our customers ahead of time. Unfortunately, it is possible that some dealers aren't as transparent, or as we sometimes find, customers just don't believe that it will take as long as we say and then are disappointed when it turns out to be true! In terms of customer service, your R&M dealer should be your main point of contact. We work hard to take really good care of our customers. Ideally, you shouldn't have to worry about customer service from R&M, because we take care of you. Having said that, we haven't experienced any problems with their customer service, but there can sometimes be some cultural differences, as service is based in Germany, and the German approach to customer service, although valid, is different than what you may be used to in North America.

[@gwj312a]

Wonderful review. Has really helped my decision making. If I was in BC, you be the dealer. Sadly........

[@bgjr2304]

My friend, I have read that there is an optional GPS tracker in the R&M bikes.. "RX Tracking Chip". Do you know if these are available or included in Canada? Thanks. GREAT CONTENT. I'll be buying my R&M from Citrus in the neat future!

[@CitrusCycles]

The RX Option is only available in Europe at this time. It would be awesome if it were available here!

[@bgjr2304]

@@CitrusCycles Thanks for the help! That's extremely unfortunate and a deal breaker for me. I guess I'll be looking at the ST5 with front suspension and built in gps tracker and theft protection. I'll be missing out on the rohloff system.. sounds amazing

[@injuredtabletennisplayer1474]

Wonderful review of my next bike? Where was this ride please?

[@CitrusCycles]

The test ride was recorded in the Ladysmith, BC area, which is near our store location.

[@james-p]

7:41 Do those bar ends still come with the GX option? I don't see them on the R&M website.

[@CitrusCycles]

No, they don't include the bar ends with the GX Option anymore.

[@james-p]

@@CitrusCycles Ah, le bummer! Thanks for the response!

[@leojonkers3181]

Why is the speed slower on your vlog then on the controller?

[@AlixWilliam]

Hi, thanks for all your reviews. Is it possible/easy to ride without assistance with the new Bosch motor?

[@kolaajibade8846]

I have a 2020 R&M Load 60 Vario with the Bosch Gen 4 motor and it is very easy to ride without assistance. So much so, I have not even noticed when I have accidentally turned the help to ECO or OFF. Compared to my old, Bosch Gen 2 equipped cargo bike, it is a major benefit

[@AlixWilliam]

Thanks!

[@FancyMcDancy]

I have this very bike (the Superdelite GT Rohloff) in the UK and, because it is not the HS version, often find that I am cycling at 19-20 mph without motor assistance. It is noticeable, but still very doable. A little fitness helps!

[@CitrusCycles]

Yes, it is very easy to ride with the assistance off, as the new Gen 4 Bosch motor has very little resistance. Of course, because it is an eBike it is a bit heavier, but I am often over the 32 km/h limit and it still is very easy to ride.

[@peggyedgar9777]

Nice riding

[@khufu8699]

Thanks. What max rider weight?

[@Tjensenvvs]

SUPER VIDEO⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

[@injuredtabletennisplayer1474]

I’d get this but no service in out area.

[@FancyMcDancy]

One issue to consider with this bike is how easy it is to attach to a car bike rack. It isn't!!!!!!! I have a tow bar mounted two bike rack and have had to remove the lock bracket from the frame to enable the rack claw to access the seat tube.

[@CitrusCycles]

We tend to use racks such as the Kuat that don't have any frame contact. However, we have some clamp style racks that seem to work by clamping onto the seatpost, so I guess it depends on the rack.

[@stefanwolter7496]

You can clamp the Damper

[@VictorP-l6h]

If you cannot see the mountains...its raining. If you can see the mountains, it's going to rain. Welcome to the west coast!....Notice on R&M , as well as other German ebikes, the speed indicated on the speedo is usually calibrated at 2kph more than the real speed- Go figure. Otherwise, a fabulous albeit dear ebike.

[@JohnnyGing]

What color is this bike

[@CitrusCycles]

It is Tundra Grey

[@thekaibailey]

Can this be pedaled without using any motor like a regular mountain bike?

[@CitrusCycles]

Yes, you can turn the assistance off and ride it just like a regular bike.

[@thekaibailey]

@@CitrusCycles Is it difficult? I've been considering an electric bike, but I'm worried that were I to cycle very far, and then eventually have the batteries die, that I would not be able to pedal it all the way back.

[@CitrusCycles]

@@thekaibailey It is a bit heavier than a regular bike due to the battery and motor, but it is fairly easy to ride with the assistance off. However, with the dual batteries you would have to ride for more than a full day to run out of battery! Plus, with the Bosch system it tells you exactly how much further you can go before you need to charge, so you would have to try pretty hard to run out of battery.

[@ecoworrier]

22:16 So this is your own bike? I've been to 2 different R&M bike shops to test ride the SuperDelite and in both places they were the owner's personal bikes. Brooks saddles, more miles than the other bikes. It tells me a lot.

[@ecoworrier]

So I ordered one. Superdelite, GX Rohloff, tundra.

[@CitrusCycles]

Yes, I have a SuperDelite GT Rohloff, and a Load 75 Rohloff for cargo. I also ride a couple of ICE Recumbent trikes, and as soon as the 2021 Homage's come in, I may replace my SuperDelite!

[@ecoworrier]

And thanks for the review. Too late for me because the order is made already, but it reinforces my opinion that this will be a bike I'm still riding in 20 years.

[@durkadur27]

@@CitrusCycles why choose homage over superdelite? I'm waiting for a superdelite now and never considered the homage.

[@hanifikilic3197]

How long does it take to get one when ordered?

[@jandersen6802]

It would be perfect if it could occasionally carry an adult on the rear rack.

[@ericknighton7881]

I like the way you say, “baag”.

[@trailguy]

How many watts???

[@InspiredByBrad]

Can one battery be used by itself for shorter trips and reduced weight? Looking forward to getting one of these in the future!

[@cyberstonks]

Yes it’s possible and you can also get a cover for the empty battery slot from R&M directly I believe, to save the insides from water

[@Мойобликжизни]

Какая цена? $?

[@minniesaab7255]

💙💙💙💙💙

[@toolmaker788]

Sonst echt top.

[@shankardasgupta9890]

Like to bye one sooner

[@Hellfire4WD]

Those german names just... rohloff the tounge

[@Mike-ql4sz]

I don't understand the people who enjoy getting them and their luggage muddy while riding w/o fenders...

[@toolmaker788]

Umlenkrolle für Riemen ist sehr unnatürlich.