FB Marketplace Scam - Rabbit's Used Cars

[@Zack_does_things]

Setting in the office at work ordering tank parts and keeping this on. Could listen to this man talk all day

[@bubbakushingtonIII]

Tank Parts? For a tank or for a tank for fluids just wondering buddy its America and we can own tanks that's why I'm asking lol.

[@Zack_does_things]

@@bubbakushingtonIII m1a1 Abrams tank. The kind civilians can’t buy yet lol

[@bubbakushingtonIII]

@@Zack_does_things fuckin a brother

[@hughstephenson2957]

The shop in Penna or the one in Denver? Ive hauled outta Huntsville Machine works in 05 to both places

[@blueridgebikeman]

I wouldn't buy a car in a Walmart parking lot, because you don't necessarily know where to go if it turns out to be a rip-off, for whatever reason. I feel more secure knowing which house to burn down in case things go south.

[@clintdavis9511]

Just like selling dope. Lol.

[@montestu5502]

I would rather be in a busy Walmart parking lot than some random house that the guy chose to make it look like his own...

[@NVejvad]

Rabbit story’s be running all day while working - he’s like the cool Onkel telling all the good story’s

[@YourWifesBoyfriend]

The grifter uncle telling fake stories

[@lsuttercane]

Its uncle dude.....lol.....wtf man??

[@lateferdinner1131]

“Is it still available?”

[@jerrygibbons3772]

Rabbit will definitely be missed thanks for the great storys and great times , you helped us to live the stories you tell, One thing that you can say about the rabbitt is he really lived!!!!

[@shadyryder5742]

I live in central florida and there are sooooo many high end salvage title cars for sale. Wondering now how many of them are stolen !

[@theanomalous1401]

I too live in Central Florida and the stats are scary. #BuyerBeware

[@wallk2538]

Flood cars

[@jonathonstump7344]

Yeah you're right. Hundreds of thousands of salvage title cars up for sale daily in Florida. I lived in West Palm for 8 years, and its insane how much scamming is going on with vehicles.

[@adamkazarian7409]

All of them.

[@shannonmary9]

Rob, just lost a 69 Chevelle in a garage fire. All interior gone, roof smashed in when garage ceiling fell on it and the fire fighters destroyed the trunk lid/taillight panel to hose down the trunk. My insurance company totaled it, but told me that it wasn’t their job to turn into the state per some new insurance statute. I sold it to a buddy to build a drag car out of, but it still has a clear title with the state of Illinois.

[@MrWoodyBalto]

In the 80's there was a Mens clothing store called Syms. Their slogan was, "An educated consumer is our best customer". My boss at the time at the Brake place I worked at adopted a similar slogan (shared between employees only) "An Uneducated consumer is our best customer". While it's funny, it's mostly true. In the Automotive Repair world the less the customer knows, the more you can get away with. Ahhh the scumbagery!

[@CRAPO2011]

Syms your taking me backkkk haha Yes its true as a young'n before i understood cars mechanics would sell me a Iine of bull.

[@stoneshrink]

*after 1949, all cars are also stamped on their frame with the VIN*, engines got stamped not long after. Okay with that said, most jurisdictions say that if 1 part is from a stolen car, the entire car it's on is also stolen. This is really really common in old Corvettes. Car gets stolen in the early 70s and stripped. Eventually, the Corvette is worth building (value), so 'that old frame out back' is used to replace the frame of car whose frame rotted. Recap, frame stolen, motor/birdcage are clean. Car gets bought by a collector in Saudi Arabia - US Customs verifies ALL vins... guess what, frame is from a stolen car. News proclaims about someone whose car was stolen and glory-be, it was found 20 years later in stellar shape. Yeah, not quite, but still.... verify all VINs when you buy a car... or be in the news.

[@klaxie187]

This is what I didn't understand, the VIN has to be stamped somewhere on the body, on a structural element which is hard to replace, without being totaled. The C6 Vette has to have the VIN number somewhere on a structural part where you could verify. Whenever I bought a vehicle or went to check out one for someone, i searched for the VIN on the body and cross-checked with the papers. Usual spots for VIN placements are the Firewall, the sheetmetal where the front strut is mounted, under the front seat or somewhere in the trunk. PSA: Never trust a fucking sticker and before going to buy a car check where the VIN should be and how the letters look like.

[@wolfman1549]

In Memphis you might get murdered buying a car on fb market place

[@jaysmith179]

Also Chicago.

[@joeishere500]

,, OH DAMN

[@davidbryant3532]

Seriously? In memphis you can be killed driving down the road

[@joeymccullough2716]

Know several body shops/ salvage yards in GA that were heavily involved in the FLA hot car business. And this was in the 90’s. Can only imagine what it’s like now. Good vid, Rabbit

[@moneygooddude]

There is a series of states you run a salvaged title to get a clean title. So check what states the title went through also. That's easier than changing vin plates and way more common.

[@bravobullz7475]

Scrolling through RUC looking for a video I haven’t watched w/ no luck Love this channel

[@scottmurray6977]

Man oh man, every time I listen to one of your stories I feel like have lived 50% of them. Bought a truck out of Florida several years back and when through the exact same thing. Lost the truck , money and almost went to jail over the whole thing! It was a disaster! Like you said if its to good to be true it is a scam!! Be well Rob.

[@GS-sm3jo]

RIP Rabbit 🙏. We're going to miss you so much my friend.

[@dougford5259]

If there is a legit business out there, there is a crook finding a way to screw you in that business. Rabbit is wise- do your homework and keep your eyes open.

[@jardiff5983]

Lol, Rabbit just oozes that greasy used car salesman persona out of every pore. I mean, he absolutely reeks of it. Rabbit knows the scams because he probably tried them all himself.

[@FloridaRT]

Absolutely this guy gets on my nerves

[@nurburgrinding]

man, sounds like "Corvette Kingpin" all over again...

[@bluegizmo1983]

Sooo, your telling me I can get a super cheap corvette with "sketchy Vin" if I just keep my mouth shut and not take it to dealerships for service? 😁🤣

[@JoshuasRecordings]

Yea. I'm not taking my car to the dealership until I scan the computer

[@xpally944]

You would be suprised how many times I heard about a almost brand new car for sale for super cheap, and then I was told, "just don't take it to the dealership". But in my area most of those cars get exported or sold between people they know.

[@priceb713]

I always thought “serviced at dealership” meant it was owned by someone who gets things fixed when they need or just get told they fine done. I did NOT know it meant the car likely isn’t stolen. My question, if you are buying a roller or wrecked donor, couldn’t you swap the ECM/TCM then drive it on down to the stealership trouble free?

[@xpally944]

@@priceb713 There is a lot more modules that would need to be replaced such as bcm, cluster, keys and etc. At that point just get a legit car.

[@danielhammond8429]

Or just reprogram all the modules. But then u still have vins and codes all throughout the vehicle

[@CooterELee]

Pro tip: Most insurance salvage cars are sold at auction with descriptions and photos online. So get that VIN and google ir on salvage cars and you can usually find all kinds of photos and then look at how damage was repaired.

[@brycebuildsit]

I met someone who did something similar they couldn't pay for their jeep anymore so they reported it stolen and got an insurance check, fast forward a few months and they owned a salvage title jeep but I'll be dammed if it didn't look exactly the same.... not sure if they ever got caught but they where more than open about the old one getting stolen so they built a new one just like it. Ummmm hmmmm sure you did.

[@royfrank7101]

The big thing here in Southeast Ga is parting out late model vechicles or selling no title

[@TheCanadianBubba]

Stories like this make me appreciate our over involved government paperwork needed to buy sell and register any motor vehichle. Best of days to you and yours Rob !

[@pdennis93]

Back in the early 90s there was a Nissan or Dodge dealer in northwest indiana (was Southlake Dodge or Southlake Nissan, I just forget which. Both were owned by the same person) that had a late model, maybe even less than a year old 300zx twin turbo that they sold to someone that ended up coming back as a stolen car when the new owner tried to register it. Iirc it came in on trade and they somehow didn't discover it was stolen until the owner tried to register it just like your Corvette story. It hurt the dealer's reputation pretty good and was in the newspaper.

[@stevedean418]

Up here in the real Carolina I’ve done a few emissions inspections on cars and when the vin you enter on the registration doesn’t match the vin number the inspection machine pulls from the cars computer doesn’t match and that vin from the cars computer is in the database as a stolen car then the DMV is going to the address listed on that registration real quick. I inspected two Cadillac CTS-V’s the same month that were stolen by the same guy who had just got out of prison after 7 years for doing the exact same thing.

[@aaroncone6778]

I was wondering when you were going to do a video of FB Marketplace scams. I've passed up quite a few vehicles, because things didnt look right. Glad I did. Hoping by July 4th, that your at 100k! Stay safe!

[@shawnmason5290]

Two thumbs up on this one. As a long time car guy and former new car dealer I have heard it said many times that the shadiest side of the business is the collector cars. If you wanted to be disowned you could probably tell some pretty good stories about the collector car auctions.

[@georgewaugh3898]

Its crazy how quick they can swap a vin plate. A dealer group that I managed had 2 SS Camaros and a Challenger RT Stolen. When they found the 2 camaros, they already had Georgia Titles. They left our Challenger at a Harley Dealer.

[@joeishere500]

Damn crazy stuff

[@lanetokack8816]

I heard back in the day Chevy messed up on the vin plates on the square body chevy where around 100 pickups came from the factory with the same vin

[@rdrewnelson539]

I worked at a Honda dealership for many years. This happened frequently. The car would get stripped then when it goes to auction the people who stripped it would buy it back. They got caught putting wrong color combinations together.

[@SJL30]

Thanks for the stories Rabbit. Love them. Between you and super Troopers Rabbit. Rabbits are the best

[@bubbakushingtonIII]

Gotta break from work and I'm not eating I'm watching Rabbit talk and I'll eat on my company's time not mine lmfao.

[@rollin-with-Joel]

My family had a BOP, AMC, Jeep and International dealership in the 60's & 70's. Selling lots of units at reasonable prices and keeping repeat, happy customers worked for them for many years. Good words of wisdom!

[@kgb4187]

This weekend I test drove a Tacoma the seller said had 150,000 miles. Ad didn't have any pictures, when I got there the truck was showing 380,000 miles. He said the previous owner told him the odometer had been going slow, and then adding miles way faster. Apparently he never heard of Carfax. 3 other people were coming to look at it after me, and it's still for sale.

[@jasontalentino1812]

Even old cars have xcodes scattered throughout the body some are reasonably easy to check without much disassembly

[@brianreese9318]

Oregon is so common to not have titles everywhere people loose em like pennies

[@timippoliti8364]

Happy Monday Rabbit!

[@stevesmith8107]

Expensive scanners are now on back order. Good info Rob. 👍

[@Nate-qh2hx]

Honestly, my ancel fx4000 can do about anything a modis can do, and it only costs $250. Slow processor, takes a few minutes to load after connecting it's nice to read individual modules anything from the abs module to the airbag modules

[@scotcoon1186]

A friend deals in used equipment, the state police once stopped by to ask about a loader he had sold a couple years prior. Some dude had been stealing equipment, printing a new serial number tag, and running it through an auction house. Got caught by Deere. They ordered parts for one and the parts didn't fit. They checked for the s/n stamped in a casting and sure enough, it didn't match the label. There was a break in the s/n between the s/n that belonged on it, and the one he put on it. Or else he may have got away with it. And he made it easy enough for them to track it all down. All the models that had been stolen in his area, he dropped one off at that auction house a couple months later. He ran every single one through the same auction house. At the point the police showed up, it was a matter of verifying the equipment was stolen for purposes of restitution and to determine how many of which charges to bring him up on.

[@sccarguy8242]

You have to do a segment on folks selling cars with no titles. Most of them because they have pawns on the the title, which means the title pawn company owns the car which means your accessory Grandtheft. No one talks about that

[@elcheapo5302]

Florida Man never rests!

[@paulyd04]

Thanks for the heads up @rabbit

[@seanwalsh7264]

Gotta love notifications it’s 7:30 here ready for that new vid from rabbit

[@jeffcampbell2710]

I would've changed the computer or bought one from a salvage dealer. But, there's a number on the firewall, well hidden, and the frame. There's also build sheets in the seat somewhere.

[@charliegugino8047]

So if I have a 69 GTO Judge that was in a field and the body is too far gone but have a 69 lemans. Is it “ok” to switch vin tags and make a complete car?

[@matthewfugal612]

Dude where do you get the awesome brake clean cup?

[@dugganracecraft]

If you have a Ford/Lincoln/Mercury/Mazda that's 2000 and newer, you can use ForScan to view the VIN in the vehicles modules. It's a free to use software the emulates what the dealers use. Saved me a couple times.

[@kellyscars]

I may or may not be putting my '75 C10s Vin on a '73 cab, because the cab was rust free and cheaper than replacement sheetmetal. 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@chandlerwigington1246]

This just furthers the reason I hate dealerships. My small time buddy is a career mechanic. He can do everything a dealer can do. He wouldn’t say a word about a different vintage number. Hell he would never check. He minds his business

[@oldsranch]

Does every state have a cap on the number of cars you can flip in a year? Ohio does, and Ive gotten the letter at least once.

[@sketchyride6021]

you generally have to get a dealer license to sell more than x amount. colorado is 10 i believe unless you pay uncle Sam what he wants and then you're free to move as many as you want

[@hgtydjdjdgh67889]

Scary stuff. I make a good living but I can't afford to be out $5-30k. And I'd like to buy a clean 2nd gen Nova in the next 5 years. It can be a rolling chassis (I want to LS swap it) but the thought of being out $5-10k because it's stolen scares the crap out of me.

[@1776WeThePeopleUSA]

I work at a local yard her In Lancaster ca where we specialize in classic cars. And it is a thing. We had people trying to buy vins and what not off of us so they can get paperwork. FYI we never sell vins we remove all vins before selling Certain parts off of vehicles

[@carlinshowalter1806]

It's against fed law to remove or deface vin numbers on any car or truck.

[@CalebsCars]

The doable way is just to swap the ecu, keys, gauge cluster and sometimes a bcm.

[@theDavitos]

that remind me of a story i heard from my friend that worked at rental company about rental car they picked up that had damage engine or transmission from client and sure things happen but then they were fixing it they started to see that rims didnt have the rental company mark they put on inside (they have had people rent cars for a day and swap rims and tires and return them) so they saw first red flag and also saw that brakes were okey so they pulled up the file and saw that car had new brakes job as former client before rode the car hard so there was a other red flag , what it turned out to be that client had bought a car from auction that had bad engine or transmisson and had rented rental car to replace lot of stuff on the auction car and then towed the rental car to parking spot and called in a rental insurance so they got a cheap deal of parts... client ended up in prison for theft. Older movie was better then cage movie and have maybe give lot of people ideas

[@donthewellguy]

So very true. I’ve bought many a car, over the years, in parking lots.... And I’ve learned, if it’s to good to be true, it is and run!!! Thanks for the heads up though... Knowledge is power..::

[@thearcher1740]

What about a great deal? Or are great deals not allowed to exist now....and I should run away as soon as someone gets me a good deal?

[@jacksmith8002]

so you steal a Vette, how do you deal with getting keys, etc

[@noe.locksmith772]

I just came from sebring international raceway this weekend, I've never seen so many damn corvettes in one place in my entire life.

[@averyholden6746]

Hey rabbit, wondering if you have any good 04-06 pontiac gto stories?

[@dudeyoung681]

Your 71 behind you has a vin on the frame left rear topside

[@joshuavinson7343]

Great PSA for everyone out there. Seems like people are revising a lot of old cons. You definitely have to do your homework, and keep in mind flipping cars is not always as easy as Rabbit makes it look.

[@RealL1feProductions]

This happened to me with my second car. 98 BAB sn95 Cobra. I was young and dumb, hell the damn thing was a 96 v6 rebuilt title. Didn't really find out until I traded it for a 97 z28. Guy was a mustang junkie, and started looking more into it after trading. Found a different VIN, ran it, came up stolen. I guess you could say the guy was cool enough to let me keep my now new (to me) Camaro, and parted the damn Cobra out. Crazy they're still doing this...

[@Thatguy55595]

“I’m trying to think of the best way to say this without sounding like such a d*** head.” 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@ericwsmith7722]

Would checking the motor number of helped?

[@thearcher1740]

Absolutely. There are like 5-10 physical VIN stamps on a car. While doing what you're saying will work.....its easier to query each module for the VIN....even a normal $100-$200 scanner will do that

[@rustyshakleford5230]

I had a car come through with an upside down vin plate on the windshield. Kinda a red flag.

[@mikehargrove5442]

How would you of figured that out if it had been you buying that car?

[@cesarvega7297]

My brother was arrested in GA in a Range Rover he bought in Florida. Came back stolen at the dealership. If you go on Copart they have a "Re-Vin" damage section. 90% of those cars are in Florida. Most of those cars are flashy exotic cars that people will buy because its cheap.

[@TonyTony-xj6uv]

Ringing as they call it here in the uk is still going strong, they tend to he a bit more clever about it. Here they tend to swap out all computers. Some even go as far as swapping out the floor pan for cars that have vin stamp in the floor

[@Itallianmobboss]

I did a prebuy on a plane, the data plate didn’t match the registration. Turned out, plane was stolen out of Canada. They changed the data plate to a US certificate

[@aaronmills4238]

So Rob what does collector car insurance do what normal insurance ? I would just like to understand

[@MrWoodyBalto]

For one, It lets you insure your car for an agreed upon value. Not book value. If you say your car is worth 50K and they agree to insure it at that value you just pay a higher premium. Normal insurance will only pay out book value.

[@channell11]

It's stated value insurance-book value doesn't really work for older or custom cars. It also can save you some money since it'll be priced assuming that you only drive it rarely. You sometimes have to prove that you have other means of daily transportation.

[@emgriffiths1861]

I saw a news item about guys who were stealing cars stripping them and dumping them, then they would buy back the shell and have all the parts on hand to 'rebuild' the car and sell it on again

[@tim1894]

Finally a man who watches the real gone in 60 seconds

[@jaysmith179]

You can buy vintage car titles on Ebay. I see them for sale all the time.

[@frankdavis2225]

It is an old trick. There were a group of guys busted here in my area back in the early 70s doing that with Camaros. They got caught because they forgot to change a VIN.

[@joeishere500]

Damn,, they dropped the ball

[@oldfordman68]

In my younger dumb teenage days I had a 72 Chevelle like the one next to you. Speedometer numbers ended at 120 I was going so fast you couldn't see the needle anymore... Front end was floating, wish I still had that car.

[@MrWoodyBalto]

For a long time, the fastest I ever went was "D" in my 77 Olds Omega "Nova" The speedo went to 85 mph, that was straight across to the right from zero. The gear indicator (PRNDL2L1) Was below the speedO. When the indicator was pointing straight down it was pointing at the "D"

[@zacharyperalta2184]

Thanks for the knowledge rabbit Been a Chevelle fan since I was a kid dream car 71 Chevelle

[@goldenwheeledbanshee9160]

Buyer beware, ALWAYS. Thanks 4 sharing this Rabbit.

[@abigalanderson7494]

Saving us from scams from beyond the grave, Rob was an amazing guy! RIP😇❤

[@pdennis93]

Ace Parker was Hazzard county's number 2 used car dealer. There weren't no others. Ol' Ace couldn't be first at anything. His entire inventory consisted of 11 cars, 8 of which were stolen and 7 of which would start.

[@outkastgarage868]

I’ve got a friend who 3 year old Toyota canary cheap from a used car to find out it got a salvage title and been wreaked 3 times but there still paying for it.

[@TheSmreeder]

Just a few Months ago in Coventry , Ohio a Local business was selling stolen Classic Cars & Trucks . Using the vin plates and Titles from rusted out hulks... He actually got caught with the hulk of a 65 Mustang and 68 Ford stepside on his property after selling one of the stolen cars to an FBI agent. Many Blessings , SMR

[@CRXJDM88]

I heard of people doing that down here in Ontario canada with iroc mustang trans am and s10 and obds trucks people buying bass model firebird and swap them to trans am and swap vin to get more money out of it

[@rockin86ranger]

I always take get all of the pictures off of the ads in facebook and screenshot the ads, screenshot the conversations, and go to the sellers page and screenshot and download a bunch of pictures that can be used to id. It may not be enough to get anything back financially if something is screwy but I like to think that it will at least keep somewhat safe from legal ramifications.

[@jasonlovell3934]

Well considering what a cesspool Facebook is anyway this shouldn’t come as a shock. That said I really love hearing how a scam works.

[@jakesjakes4873]

How is this even remotely related to Facebook? Or remotely a FB problem? FB Marketplace is a simple messageboard where *people* post whatever they want and run whatever dishonesty they want after meetup or whatever. FB has no control and can have no control of their users' actions. A scam is scam....same for any and all messaging platforms

[@carlinshowalter1806]

and the cesspool Florida is now!

[@barhorst1577]

Something similar was happening to equipment rental companies around me. Guys would steal a piece of equipment then rent a piece of equipment that’s the same then just swap the vin number. And the company never knew because they only look at stock numbers. Only reason they got caught was because they weren’t putting any hours on the machine and it started raising red flags to to company.

[@cme2cau]

Here in Australia, when a car is written off, the VIN can never be registered again.

[@joehawk6768]

How can I find all the cars for sale

[@geraltofmordor]

This trick has been used in motorcycles for many years now. Coincidentally (not really), Florida is horrendously notorious for this. They steal the bike, change the vin for a salvage title bike with the same model, change the ecu of the bike completely (or at least do some tweaks to it), and sell the bike like it's legit. I've personally known several people that this happened to and hence why people hate buying motorcycles in Florida. And like Rabbit said, this can take you out quickly without you even knowing it. Shady times we live in. Stay safe out there!

[@scottnelson6671]

Yes. The instrument cluster is the beginning and end of the “daisy chain” of technology in a car. You cannot replace an instrument cluster without flashing all other control units. Evan an early 2000s Mercedes has 13 control units that are “married” together. The climate control has the VIN and mileage logged, A Harbor Freight scanner can tell you a lot. Take a code scanner to any OBD2 car purchase. VIN plates and door stickers are easy.

[@olebloom1641]

Great episode. More people need to know this.

[@tristiarmstrong56]

☺😊 what a wise ol rabbit 🐇❤ I can listen to you all day ☺☺

[@jaredkinneyjr]

would VinWiki have helped in this FB marketplace incident?

[@johnhufnagel]

both cars would have to be on it, with the appropriate descriptor (stolen, wrecked)

[@markginikos3939]

More iconic than a 71 chevelle ss. Is a 70 chevelle 454 ss. Just saying. All though I may be biased I have a 70. Ss

[@josephinebroughton7397]

we used to call that ringing in the uk.

[@germanvalleymetaldetecting2252]

I sold a mitsubishi galant vr4 that had a tree fall on it a guy frome nyc bought the shell and 3 weeks later it was for sale so i went to look at it he had cloned it can swapped everything over the cops ended up taking the car

[@kenyates144]

I used to think you were kinda cool... Now I know your a super cool badass because we rock the same super cool badass Air-King!!! Oh btw keep spitting out the stories please:)

[@fparsons1]

Wow that’s scary…. But I’ve got a cheapo ($25) scan tool that tells the vin on the startup page…… I’ll be bringing that with me from now on…. Thanks for the heads up rob

[@fitp97]

Man , another great story , thanks Rob !!!

[@idbountyhunter]

Dropping gold. Pay attention and take notes on how to re-vin a car.

[@gregrogers3030]

I knew a girl that lived with her grandparents and she brought a few year old truck from some guy and put a ton of aftermarket parts on it and then the check engine light came on so she took it to the Chevy Dealership and they called her back and said that her vin number on the computer was for a truck that was stolen and she was so pissed and she never was able to find the guy she brought the truck from.

[@sostrucking]

That's why you get video while transaction is going on..if you can. Get pics of other vehicle they show up in and license plate number. I also ask for ID too...if they are honest they won't mind. Always cover your ass..

[@leeadams5941]

I enjoyed this, but I was a cop in the 70s and remember a class on stolen cars, there were several places on a car they stamped the vin, dont remember them now but they even had placed that were very hard to get to done at the factory...so to do it right you would have to restamp all those places also

[@brianbird3756]

I actually know a guy named Jim-Bob Berry🤣🤣🤣

[@joeishere500]

SMALL WORLD AINT IT