LEGO 10302 Optimus Prime details & comparison to Kre-O and other versions - review part 2

[@seanbaker1868]

Your g1 is 100% a later addition/ copy. The silver areas are the giveaway, and the trailer is slightly out on the colour. Love the new Lego version.

[@crazygalvatron7225]

I personally call that one a G1½, it's a great KO adding the pearlescent swirls to the red cab while keeping the G1 decals and a darker G2 inspired trailer while having light blue accessories all over

[@PhilipWorthington]

Edition, not addition. But otherwise you're right.

[@atticuscorbitt8199]

Would love to see Lego and Hasbro team up to do a G1 Soundwave next. That would be super cool!

[@Bigbert835]

Eh, I don’t like Soundwave, kind of my worst character. They should do Megatron or Bumblebee next.

[@imeanslaverywasveryprofita4626]

@@Bigbert835 this is the first time I’ve heard such heretical things said about commander soundwave

[@mbricks6014]

@@Bigbert835 HERESY HE SAYS! SILENCE

[@mbricks6014]

But that’s what I’m saying, he’d be pretty easy to make, since they’d just need him to fold arms back and legs split, with slight engineering for hiding the head.

[@whynot9073]

G1 stars cream would be great

[@Gzilla313]

I grew up during the Beast Wars era and had a transmetal Tarantulas figure. Love having a G1 Optimus in Lego form. My only issue with it is the turntable at the waist is a weak connection I have to secure every time I move the figure. I wish there was a way to put a technic bar through Optimus to help hold him together.

[@ChaoticJester]

Heck lego could have even given us a Tile version of the waist piece to stack onto it, and it would have instantly become more stable.

[@justinbroniszewski]

If there is ever a mod to add knees joints to this set, it will be an instant buy. Optimus needs to have knee articulation.

[@cooperfitzgerald7149]

can't agree more

[@skyeroy29]

Someone did it on KZbin and you can see why Lego didn't add it/work it in. It has trouble standing.

[@brickchef8282]

Just wait for chubbybots or someone like him

[@horizon645]

Unfortunately they need to be fused together for to have stability, kzbin.info/www/bejne/sHqXnKeYed-he9E. Some already tried to do it

[@LIMITLESS2774]

@@skyeroy29 that toy guy

[@deang5386]

There is also the recent Earthrise/Kingdom Optimus Prime if you want a G1 style Optimus Prime.

[@HoofmanJones030397]

I'm sure someone else has already pointed it out, but the front bumper is supposed to tab into the studs at the waist in both vehicle and robot mode.

[@ryanchong9965]

I think there is a slight issue with Lego creating more G1 figures is Megatron. Because for those who don't know, Megatron was a gun in the 80s cartoon. A Walther P-38 to be specific. There's no way Lego will make a scale replica of G1 Megatron, so Megatron will likely end up being his Legends toy which is a tank instead of a gun. In addition, according to canon, Megatron and other transformers were able to become smaller/larger based off their altmode's size. This is why Soundwave was once a radio and Megatron was able to be used as a gun in the cartoon by both people and other decepticons. It would be difficult for Lego to somehow utilize a mass phase shifter to allow Megatron to be wielded by other transformers while simultaneously be large enough to scale with this Optimus toy.

[@Benjamin0119]

I am hoping LEGO will make Megatron and give his gun barrel an orange tip, which we can then switch out for gray from Pick-a-Brick or Bricklink. 😉 Although, how realistic could a LEGO gun possibly be? Surely no one would think itn was a real gun? LOL yeah LEGO hasn't invented mass-shifting technology yet! But I don't think anyone is expecting Megatron to shrink. Although, including a small brick built Megatron in is gun mode, for other characters to wield, would he cool.

[@ryanchong9965]

@@Benjamin0119 Lego doesn't make anything explicitly war-like. The only reason Star Wars and other series gets away with it is just because of that: they're fictional. A Walther P-38 is a real life handgun and can you imagine the PR nightmare Lego would have if they actually sold a model gun? I'm pretty sure the tank is a safer and more practical option for a Megatron set.

[@Benjamin0119]

@@ryanchong9965 LEGO has a lot of loopholes in that rule, though. The supposed rule is no modern military stuff, which they consider anything from World War II and later. For some reason World War I is ok, as they made the Red Baron and Sopwith Camel. LEGO also made Indiana Jones sets which included literal Nazis and Soviet Russians, along with their vehicles. I'm not sure why THAT was ok. Making Megatron into a tank should technically go against their rule, too. Though, I've never seen any gray tanks. They usually have camouflage, so maybe LEGO could get away with it. Blitzwing would be an issue since his tank mode is mostly tan, but doing a triple changer is probably impossible, anyway. Warpath is a red and silver, but I doubt LEGO would make a character with that name, plus he is a minor character, anyway. Really, that sounds more like a Deception name! And there's no chance LEGO makes Brawl or the rest of the Combaticons, as they would be prohibitively expensive to make the whole team in one set be in scale with Optimus (the cartoon, since the old toys weren't scale,) and they're a team of military vehicles, some of them having realistic color schemes, Brawl included. So Megatron would probably be the only Transformers tank they ever make. We never saw Megatron's cybertronian mode, so maybe we could argue it was a tank... At the very least, most of the other Decepticons should be ok. LEGO released plenty of military jets as "stunt planes," and the Transformers jets all have these sorts of colorful stunt plane-like color schemes.

[@ChaoticJester]

​@@ryanchong9965makes you wonder if they'll even DO Megs, given most of his alt modes have been war themed.

[@encaged314]

G1 was a little before my time. It wasn't until Beast Wars that I started getting into Transformers and have been fascinated with them since. Armada and Energon really wrangled me in. Although he's not the version I grew up with, I still really like this set.

[@sadeness]

I loved the thumbnail pic you used.That spiderman meme worked out great for it.Great video.

[@RacingBrick]

Thanks, worked a lot on this one :)

[@gieselats]

It is obvious that you are a real fan. I like that. The lego set will get very expansive when it gets EOL. For lego investment really interesting. More chrome parts on the lego set would be great. But that’s a question of production costs. „Transformers, robots in the sky“., I still have this sound in my head.

[@larryiscreating]

Love the thumbnail 😄👏🏿

[@klarpi]

My son, 8 years old, is an old soul who prefers G1 optimus! We are so happy it came out right on time for his birthday! Thanks for the review, definitely gonna get this for my baby!

[@trewerd]

After this Optimus Prime, the Ideas Voltron, and to a lesser extent, the Ninjago combo mech, I hope one day, pipe dream/pie in the sky wish, they'll make the Megazord from Mighty Morphing Power Rangers. Mega Construx (Blox) made a few power rangers sets before, but nothing at this level. Now that I think about it, Hasbro also currently owns the Power Rangers license so it's the perfect time.

[@nomicnevermic]

I believe Optimus Prime is another one of these sets that you wouldn't mind paying extra for a larger set if it was to be more detailed and more sturdy. Imagine if they could even have a driveable Optimus.

[@dgripper05]

I hope it becomes super successful as well, I will buy them all, hope they sale well and we get Megatron next

[@clarkanine]

This is the best thumbnail i've ever seen.

[@coffeeinhandproductions3238]

Cool comparisons. Really eye opening how a Lego version at about $170 - $220 is the cheapest collectors variation now on the market whereas 20+ years ago the MP01 slightly shorter, super detailed, some diecast assembly was around the $110 mark. The G1 Optimus you have I feel is the commemorative edition released around the same time for around I think $50. Never had the original as well but grabbed one up, as well as the Ultra Magnus for Nostalgia's sake. Alternators was an interesting experiment that started out great providing realistic car modes, rubber tires/chrome, and decent articulation however near the end with Ram Prime one of the last the engineering/quality went completely down as the prices went up. Glad you have an appreciation for it though.

[@beatrixwickson8477]

I was super lucky, the black Nemesis Prime version of the RAM was a San Diego comicon exclusive but got mass released here in Australia. I bought two and sold one straight away to cover the cost. Wished I could have held onto it but that was how I could afford it and I still have my copy. Love it!

[@airdogz13]

Love the price comparisons. Really good perspective

[@_Sideswipe911]

Your copy of g1 prime is from what I can tell either unofficial or made from multiple copies, as far as I’m aware the black trailer hasn’t been released with blue for the stands in the bottom. I’d say it’s been restored from multiple different copies of the toy, which would explain the branding. The difference in colour between painted and unpainted sticks out also, though that could just be the case with other copies also.

[@TagSpamCop]

It's the "bright" KO. It's not a combination figure.

[@SilverScarletSpider]

7:23 this comment says it all: Transformers Alternators really were the best

[@michael_emtb]

Absolutely brilliant!! I loved seeing all the different Optimus Primes!! Thanks for another great video!! 👍🏻

[@enzoferrari1798]

Best thumbnail I’ve ever seen

[@blablaennogwat]

If you take another look at the transforming instructions, you'll see that the front bumber SHOULD connect to a couple of studs in robot mode AS WELL as truck mode!! This makes both modes more sturdy, but prevents robot mode to have swinging hips.

[@RacingBrick]

Thanks for the feedback, you are right, but I don't think it is actually clearly indicated in the instructions. Attaching the bumper to the studs behind requires some minor adjustments until the position can be found, so it's not something obvious. It does make the build more stable though, especially the cab in truck mode.

[@blablaennogwat]

@@RacingBrick hmm, just rechecked instructions and definitely not as obvious as I made it in my head. I guess I just figured it out while fiddling around 🤪

[@misterpreposterous5771]

I came across this video because I've been watching Speed Champions reviews recently. It's really "surprising" that the only time a G1-accurate Optimus Prime wasn't available on regular store shelves (yes, even in Europe) was in the year this LEGO set was released. We had definitive G1 Optimus Prime for two years straight in Earthrise (repacked in Kingdom line) for $50 which, frankly, blows this rendition of the character out of the water in every regard, maybe aside from build experience. ;) I'm sad that many LEGO fans were convinced this was a good deal. Thankfully the set shelfwarmed and is widely available now about 50% off.

[@beatrixwickson8477]

I have this set and really like it. It's the same scale as the MP-01 which was pretty terrible. But also the same size as the Wei Jiang MPP10 (which is an oversized MP10 KO). Currently I'm using that trailer until I build one. Currently trying to add some non-transforming Autobot cars in the same scale.

[@capmodesty]

I don't think your G1 Optimus is a knockoff, the lighter blue used on his shins and on roller etc look like the G2 release and explains why the trailer has a black colour rather than grey, it's entirely possible it is a G2 release with repro stickers placed on the trailer

[@TagSpamCop]

It absolutely 100% is a KO. The color of the trailer is wrong, the main robot is missing the stripes - they're included as separate stickers, but were always pre-applied on the official figure - and the reds are mismatching. It's very well known as the "bright" or "pearl bright" KO.

[@Benjamin0119]

Man, you know Transformers and other toys in general are getting expensive when LEGO is the better deal! I got this Prime and as a big fan of both Transformers and LEGO, this was a dream come true! I agree the stability at the waist rotation is annoying, and that's probably my only real gripe. Great review, thanks!

[@christophertsang8409]

Amazing use of the Spider-Man pointing meme on the thumbnail

[@gtp_vexd3507]

Found this guy in Argos (uk) for £80 this Christmas. Snapped him up. Great Lego figure.

[@cloudburstrc1633]

can't wait for a lego devastator :D

[@leronpereira6859]

My Dad had got me the Bandai versions of transformers when I was a kid 👍🏼☺️...they were still transformers though, and I was happy!...🙏🏼🤗

[@Notreal80]

I miss KRE-O Transformers as a Kid, this was my Childhood, I remember the commercials and it advertised was for the 3rd movie Dark of the Moon. I guess nobody talks about these sets anymore. And I’m not what happened to Hasbro’s KRE-O Theme.

[@SaperPl1]

Finally :)

[@formulaumm7512]

Nice thumbnail!

[@TheNeelonRokk]

Size wise, MP-1 (official) and MPP-10 (Wei Jiang, unofficial) are the only G1 accurate ones I know off, the newer MP Transformers are a smaller scale.

[@jmurray1110]

So glad we found this fir only £100 (66% of the price on the website) Hope we get more as I would love a starscream soundwave or negatron Also imagine the possibilities with a headhunter range like the Star Wars helmet sets and what mods that could bring

[@Djou-Karl]

That lego set is beautiful looking! I have a special Playstation edition of Optimus prime for transformers' 30th anniversary, I also managed to have the boxed signed by Peter Cullen! :D (this version is not made by Hasbro but by Takara)

[@RacingBrick]

Wow, very cool!

[@aidanfriedfeld8889]

The Transform Element TE-01 OP leader is a good option. It’s about 80-100$ depending on where you get it. It’s a pretty cartoon accurate g1 Optimus prime IMO.

[@RacingBrick]

Interesting! This one is not licensed, right? Can't seem to find it in stock anywhere though, especially not with shipping to Europe :(

[@mintoosid]

Use any Lego ball joint and modify

[@JTCF]

I am noticeably younger than you and many G1 fans, so for me introduction to transformers were movies and TF: Prime animated series, so I don't have that love for G1 and love the movie and Prime versions. I understand, people have diffeent taste, I have my own things I love about movie designs. Not all movie designs, to be fair.

[@parminderjaura5642]

Love the thumbnail 😂

[@venom60553]

Great video ., i'm a big fan of Transformers myself and i have lots of it at home. G1 prime is great and i bought one to build, one to keep. If somehow Lego x Hasbro continue the line that will be both Lego and Transformers dreams. Hasbro normally never sell their license to other company which allows the toys to "transfrom". (eg, threezero figures, pops figures.. etc) Only non transfromation transfromers is allowed. I was very surprised Hasbro let Lego to produce a fully transfromation OP which really interesting marketing. I can see soundwave can be the next once since is a simple transfromation and also is one of the many fan's favorite character .. i really hope this lines continue forever.

[@user-neo71665]

If you have ever been on a real cabover most are mounted on a suspension and the cab does move separately of the chassis.

[@nightmare-ishstudios9245]

It’s funny if you want a masterpiece grade Optimus prime, the best option is the Lego one because it’s leagues cheaper than both masterpieces and way better in g1 accuracy than mp10 and around $300 cheaper than mp44.

[@koryggg]

I saw a video where someone modded it to bend the knees on Lego optimus and it falls over

[@miketechnic5.0]

great comparison of Optimus Prime and I can't wait for you to review the new roller coaster

[@abelnemeth4346]

Do you know what else would be a great continuation of the Lego X Hasbro? My Little Pony

[@SoundblasterYT]

If you don't care about size, consider the siege or earthrise/kingdom figures.

[@ShquilleWhite]

I was thinking about starting a Bayverse movie masterpiece Transformers collection. Then collect some of the G1 masterpiece figures what's the best place to put them?

[@techformsmaster930]

I remember I once got a kreo megatron, and I was super disappointed that it didn't actually transform, but honestly, if it were made to transform it would've just fallen apart faster, as I remember that after just building it, part of it fell off, and each time I tried to repair it, more parts fell off, like some sort of inverse hydra, and it just fell apart in my hands. Overall a disappointment, so thank goodness the lego optimus prime I got much more recently is just better in every way.

[@just.a.M3M3R]

I really hope we can get a lego soundwave and shockwave

[@TornaitSuperBird]

I bet you that if they do a Decepticon, the first one they'll do is Soundwave.

[@CharloBagis]

I collect ThreeZero Transformers, but those come only in robot form and don't transform. Will definitely get the Lego Optimus and most probably leave him in truck mode, I think the designer nailed the truck proportions. Thanks for the excellent video Balazs 👍

[@convoyconvoyconvoy]

my housemate has a ghostbusters branded optimus in a proton backpack display from san diego comic con, its pretty cool

[@tobius.maxilla]

Which other lego cars are close to scale with the truck mode?

[@VollenhoveVanBoven]

What is that cup on the red crane?

[@RacingBrick]

The most important question of all :D That cup has some parts from the red crane I had to borrow for a build

[@VollenhoveVanBoven]

@@RacingBrick :) Now I can sleep well tonight

[@Moskito2508]

Transformers Binaltech/Alternators! Best toy line from Transformers imho. Highly detailed vehicles which transform into robots. I own the Subaru WRX STI and the Jeep Wrangler.

[@bachbui]

nice thumbnail

[@Wreckedftfoxy]

i wanna see starscream

[@briqtastic]

Really cool!

[@dustinakadustin]

You can also store the jet pack on Optimus when he's in truck mode.

[@TsundereSupreme]

That G1 Optimus is definitely a knockoff. The silver striping around the cab comes preapplied on every official version of the toy but the knockoffs distinctly leave it off for you to apply. In addition, the black trailer was only seen officially on the G2 version of the toy, which featured completely different accessories, manuals, and stickers. The black trailer is only an option for KO versions of the toy. Also, the shade of blue is just way too bright - neither the G1, G2, or any of the later reissues featured a blue that bright and vibrant.

[@gamingwithjacobi8757]

I was going to say that if you wanted a complex and more fun build of g1 Optimus prime model kit…i would have advised you look into the agora models g1 Optimus prime kit but with that your making $150 usd payments each month for 12 months or $65 usd payments each month for 24 months. Would you look into this or outside your video theme?

[@RacingBrick]

So like paying $1800 for a model that does not even transform? That's really not my type of thing, I'd rather buy the Robosen version with the trailer included for that money

[@gamingwithjacobi8757]

@@RacingBrick they wish they could have made it transform but they would have given up on having it so possable and on a good chunk of detail, for example the light up matrix of leadership in his chest. But I wasn’t sure if you looked into the model or not or what your opinion on it was

[@maggie198333]

Once I checked out the one made by Robosen, there is no coming back. But it’s very expensive.

[@RacingBrick]

Oh yes, and that one has a trailer as well now! Would need to sell a kidney though...

[@warriorpredator128]

Autobo- I mean, Optimuses, roll out

[@Jonni65]

Believe me or not i have all four seasons of g1 the real ones and a lit of the original toys from the 80s got them from my moms friend yes i have optimus but the moms friend lost his ratchet and ironhide yup the headless ones

[@SAITO2]

how hard would it be to make a soundwave and blaster?

[@GurioGurio]

this set is amazing

[@rgbatom5145]

The vehicle mode probably scales better with some speed champions sets

[@gtp_vexd3507]

If you can find a Wei Jiang MPP10 That’s your ideal size comparison G1 transforming Optimus. 😋👍🏽

[@KilosFoxo]

the closest official scale for him is mp-01 optimus prime

[@HisRoyalMajestyKingofWeedshire]

Damn I had a Kreo Optimus Prime years ago.

[@joelabhishek0074]

Nice thumbnail balazas.

[@hassanrao470]

I’m terms of alternatives, I would say good options are a high quality knock off of masterpiece Optimus number 44 or number 10. Another alternative which is smaller, cheaper, and more playable is the transformers wfc kingdom Optimus Prime.

[@Mr_Boss_Smile]

it's wild that hasbro had their own bootleg lego toyline and gave up and let lego make their own transformer

[@kevinkacer6184]

Magic square light of peace is pretty much the most accurate G1 Optimus, and cost around 130 USD. But of course, way complicated than lego Optimus. PS not all third party transformers are not Knock OFF! Most feature original designs !

[@thedrifter5531]

or you could get one of the 3p figures like OP leader or if you are specifically going for chonky optimus magic squares light of freedom optimus would suit it

[@Slimey1984]

honestly comparing the toy to the cartoon isnt worth it, BC THE CARTOON ISNT ACCURATE WITH ITSELF. in the cartoon, there were sooo many innacuracies, whether it was the mass-shifting, or optimus being facelesss on a face lose-up. Also im more than sure that the optimus isnt real, as the trailer is meantr to be light grey, and the stuff in the trailer (roller and all the other stuff) ARENT meant to be on sprews. also in th short, i thought the one you hid was the alternators optimus lol!

[@Slimey1984]

btw i do have an optimus from th war for cybertron line, its praised as the best prime that ISNT cancer to transform, hes headless, but if you think hat the alternators one is good, you should see others, it aint bad, just that it aint good. also im currently 14,and ive been a fan of transformers and used them as a hobby since i was like 2, would that make me good to talk about transformrs?

[@shamanaseem7165]

5:46 Smokescreen: HEES AAPPTIMUS PRIIME!

[@Knee6811]

man kre o was actually my favorite knock off legos but I couldn’t find the transformers place. I was very sad :(

[@MagicSphere16]

I really miss kree o these days… i hope they start producing again

[@brdworkshop2891]

Damn! I need this one! 😁

[@TheEmoPainter]

My model of this always gives my issues on the torso, it comes off the lego piece alot when you're transforming it. The legs can't go backwards very well as the peice in-between the legs on the rear comes off, and the elbow joint keeps failing and is very flimsy to hold the gun and always falls down.

[@trewerd]

I get the same issues, and also the light bars on the feet keep popping up. I keep having to push them back into place.

[@skylineeeeeeful]

I love lego and Transformers, and even if this one is great, I would prefer saving money for a perfect Optimus toy

[@linkinstreet]

You can look for Takara's Masterpiece line for cartoon accurate Optimus/convoy

[@RacingBrick]

I did look at them, that's the 4-5-600$ range with shipping :/

[@DuckofFail]

The Kre-O model is definitely Optimus Sub-Prime, when you compare it side-by-side with the LEGO 10302

[@zionjarman3610]

Transforms just like the one I have i have no idea what gen it it but exact same transformation

[@Ominous3102]

Can't wait for lego bumblebee

[@MrandMrsQuack]

I want Megatron even g1 lol. goofy looking gun? Yes please

[@andyblondyn1898]

Hey Balazs. I did finish the model just yesterday and I do notice a lot of slack on the elbow joints, specially visible when in the truck mode where the gap is big. Do yuo have it as well? I see some, not sure how it looks after a few months: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pKKVZHWhrtJlpNE

[@dephranque9883]

I think if they will do a second one it’s probably gonna be soundwave

[@okiwangko]

ah, the Transformer Alternators. I still kept my Dodge Viper Sideswipe. On an off topic note, f you want to get stuck into a rabbit hole, I do suggest reading up on Binaltech and it's off the rails cousin Transformer Kiss Players 🙃

[@RacingBrick]

Binaltech / Alternators are cool, but those Kiss Players are super weird :D

[@JustSomeNerd]

Is your mic not plugged in?

[@RacingBrick]

?

[@jozomrkva]

I want full fleet from g1/or Bumblebee movie:)

[@musishoon7950]

The original G1 toy did not have articulating legs! Yours is definitely a reissue

[@TagSpamCop]

The original had knees. It always has. But it's a KO, because the trailer, the coloration and the lack of stripes give it away.

[@Chaden]

Pretty cool set! I wonder what else hasbro and LEGO will do together?

[@aggelosaggelos5696]

I am confused as to how this transformation is complex,complex is the transformation of the zeta gundam

[@RacingBrick]

Complex for an average LEGO customer, not for a Transformers collector

[@Albino_Basilisk]

I hope this opens the possibility for LEGO power rangers

[@ThatRandomDude14]

As soon as I got my offical Lego optimus I threw my kreo one across the room

[@Bahamuttone]

Hm the MP10 is not going to even come close in size to the Lego version. There is the same difference in height between the Lego version and the MP01 than between the MP01 and MP10. MP-10 is about HALF the size of the lego one ^^;;;

[@RacingBrick]

According to online sources MP10 is about 24 cm tall, the LEGO version is 35cm. So it is visible smaller, but still far from being half the size.