Radicalised: Are Femcels The New Incels? | Channel 4 Documentaries

[@Channel4Documentaries]

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[@greengronirandom]

I think this viewpoint that "incels are violent but femcels are just a danger to themselves" is very unhelpful. Both communities are at high risk of self harm, and glossing over that will just serve to anger them even more.

[@thesunisbright]

master is the owner of the incels website. he is being investigated by the police. stay away from that forum its nothing but trouble.

[@cvpoct466]

Femcels?😂😂😂 Laughable. Women have all the government and society’s support. You mainstream fake news media.

[@pangu9550]

It isn't a viewpoint, it's a generalisation based on hormonal and cultural differences. Emotionally damaged men tend to lash out at the world without introspection and responsibility, and damaged women take on blame and self-harm. Understanding this is a starting point to helping people.

[@BenKellyMusic92]

I couldn't help but laugh at that bit at the beginning: "There's FemCel Spotify playlists, which is just loads of Lana Del Ray" 😅

[@honigdachs.]

Same here, that was brilliant 😂

[@lukestevens4374]

Haha true

[@LanaDelReySupremacy]

it was a crossover i wasn’t expecting (obviously cuz of my name lmao)

[@chrisg7011]

Lana Del Ray is the radio Head of the girl artists 😂

[@JamieCS1983]

​@@LanaDelReySupremacy u should of, most girls who listen to lana del rey are mentally disturbed. It's like the female equalivant of Tyler the creator and Frank ocean for males 😂😂

[@therocketboost]

C4 didn't really investigate femcels in this. They visited femcels who showed them incel servers. It feels like C4 got very distracted from the focus of this piece. It would have been a lot more illuminating to show what's being said and shared in the actual femcel spaces.

[@jamesl5203]

There aren't any femcel spaces because femcels are not real!

[@itsruckaswife7036]

Are they not going to do that ??? That sucks. How crap 💩

[@alicegray3409]

yeah if you look at how they covered incels in comparison to this it is quite shocking

[@_CaptainCookie]

@@alicegray3409 incels commit mass murder. femcels make angry comments online. they aren't the same

[@silverbullet2008bb]

That poor girl who is worried about her facial appearance is actually a good looking lass.

[@fred3965]

The way channel 4 portrays these hateful people compared to how they portray their male counterparts is honestly funny

[@Avengerie]

"Men become incels because they lack personal and sexual relationships with women (because of their worldview). Women become femcels because of their past experiences with men." Subtle justification of their ideology.

[@ivangutowski]

Yes.. very rapidly glossed over the 'lets end all men' part

[@adammonks591]

Correct. It's pretty gross "journalism" to be fair.

[@chucklessavini1778]

@@adammonks591 It's tabloid shite, pure female-excusing, manhating tabloid swill.

[@johnsmith-ik8il]

Understand the agenda then it will make sense.

[@HughMyronBrah]

You knew it was gonna be cringe as soon as it opened with, "this is one of the darkest corners of the internet", lmao. "The darkest corners of the internet" consist of paedophilia, torture, murder, and animal abuse, not people whining about their dating and sex life on Reddit and discord.

[@anony-moose-m9q]

jfl

[@VargUniverse2k24]

the contrast between this documentary and the incel documentary you guys made is hilarious. Both incels and femcels essentially feel the same negative emotions of loneliness, isolation, being unloveable, feeling ugly, etc. yet in your other documentary you basically villainize all the young men as being violent misogynists which the vast majority are not, while in this one, you coddle the femcels and paint them as innocent victims of tragic circumstances despite the absolute minsandry they spew online... no wonder young men are resentful towards society and liberal media... always painting their struggles in the worst light possible and no wonder they might feel resentment towards women for getting preferential treatment by every institution in the west while still complaining about how oppressed they are.

[@cutthroatcaviar9466]

Maybe because one group (incels) are responsible for real life acts of violence, mass murders and cause significant damage to society The other group (femcels) are a parody of the former - they don’t have a consistent ideology or multiple dedicated spaces filed with 10s of thousands of members per site, spread across multiple platforms online. Their motivations and beliefs are very different. Sure, they may have similarities when it comes to low self worth and feelings of loneliness but that’s about it. Incels are villainised because they act on the things they say online. Members of those groups actually go out and cause harm to others and have done for years. Even those who don’t cause any harm, by absorbing the type of content and beliefs shared on those platforms it poses a real risk of radicalisation and an escalation in behaviour. All because women don’t want to have sex with them. There are no active “femcel” communities online, not even one mainstream forum. Most posts online from self proclaimed “femcels” are satirical, just look at the # on TikTok. The most well known incel forum in comparison has over 2.6mil monthly views, 24k members, 12.2 million posts and 524k threads. On study showed every 29 minutes a post encouraging rape is posted. That site alone being connected to over 100 murders and violent attacks of mainly women in a 10 year period. Just because the vast majority of those who consume that content aren’t physically violent in ways that can be publicly linked to the incel movement it doesn’t mean that they don’t participate in other forms of violence? Like encouraging others to commit those acts, believing and promoting dangerous and hateful beliefs to others and participating in the increased levels of violence towards women. There are many other outlets to choose from where you can be lonely, insecure and depressed without frequenting platforms linked to mass shootings, rape and violence against women. All because you feel entitled to sex and companionship. Misandry is a byproduct of misogyny. When violence towards women increases, so does the anger towards those committing it. Misandry is simply a response to the increased levels of violence both on and offline and lack of justice to match that increase. In all of human history there is not one example of systemic misandry. 1-2 exceptions is an individual occurrence, not systemic oppression. The reason young men are so resentful is because gender dynamics shifted massively in a way that no longer prioritises their needs over female autonomy. Entitlement has allowed you to believe that “modern feminism and the liberal media” has stolen what you were owed and many are now being confronted with navigating a world that no longer works that way. Not to mention catastrophe reporting, socioeconomic inequality and a malignant capitalist system that has turned male anger into a profitable business. Pick up artists, men’s rights activist, podcasters and streamers. Misogyny is profitable. Monetising young male anger is profitable. The algorithm and monetising rage bait is an incredibly lucrative business. Whilst you blame liberal media and women for not caring enough about you, the “truth tellers” you look up to are seeing dollars signs. Your loneliness, insecurity and anger make you the perfect targets to groom and manipulate. Seeking role models, money making opportunities, community and a shared understanding of who’s to blame for all of this. Male insecurity and misogyny is incredibly profitable and there’s a well documented pipeline men lol yourself fall down in the process of simply looking for answers. Algorithms target you because when those content creators make money. So do the platforms. The more divisive a society is, the easier it is to control. I went off on a tangent there but the main point is this. The reason the attitudes are different is because incels are actively causing real world harm in acts of violence that are purposefully broadcast in a way to draw attention to themselves and inspire others. “Femcel” as a word doesn’t even make sense and is a parodied term. The women who self identify as one don’t actually follow incel ideology. The women who are typically labelled femcels as an insult are man haters. Not the same thing. When femcels unionise and start writing manifestos, create websites dedicated to sharing that ideology and begin committing mass shootings, killing men because they’re single and can’t find love, incite violence against men en masse, worldwide. Then a conversation can be had comparing them both. There is no sign of that happening any time soon and nothing to indicate that it will.

[@thevaleofthesoil744]

Cope hard 😂

[@cutthroatcaviar9466]

@@thevaleofthesoil744 “cope” would be convincing yourself that the reason there’s femcel no documentary talking about how dangerous they are is because of a the MSM’s desire to oppress men. Not that there just isn’t evidence that supports it. Pathetic really.

[@meanon4408]

@@cutthroatcaviar9466 I'm not an incel but you said it yourself, there are tens of thousands of incels. So, Elliot Rogers the only one I can think of that went completely off the rails 10 years ago is representative of incels as a whole. Femcels though are good, they're just going through a bad stage and completely harmless because there isn't a female equivalent of Elliot Rodgers. I accidentally stumbled across an open femcel reddit group and they were very graphic, and hateful towards men, a lot of violent material and what they would do if they had a physical advantage. That strange 'moid' term was also frequent there. Of course, biologically they're less capable to dish out violence but then 99% incels aren't Elliot Rogers but young guys who are struggling just like the women. You sound like the type who doesn't take abusive women in relationships seriously which is very common but barely is reported due to stigma.

[@cutthroatcaviar9466]

@@meanon4408so because the only incel you know of is Elliot Rodger’s that means that no other exist in the last 10 years? Don’t think that means that they don’t exist. Just that you don’t seem to be paying attention. Instead of commenting stupid shit how about you go and look up the countless number of incel murders and mass killings. Worldwide. Not just in the US. I am not going to even dignify this level of wilful stupidity and assumptions because you are incapable of doing adequate research and instead want to cry about the fact incels are being regarded as violent and dangerous. Even being charged with terror offences. The things you’ve mentioned are laughable. They call men moids? You mean like the parody phrase that they took from incels saying FEMOIDS. The Reddit community you just claimed exists is also a blatant lie as someone who has studied it, that is not the content that they share. Nor are there “femcel” subreddits. They don’t talk about the topics that you claim and nor do they focus on killing men and harming them lmao. Unlike the incel forums that post about raping women every 29 minutes and is documented and encourage pedophilia. Funny how you can find all of that on the first page of google but none of the femcel content people claim is being made equally. Incels actually commit real world violence. Femcels never have. I believe all victims of violence deserve justice. I believe women can be abusive. The average lonely incel is engaging in incel content from pages that support pedophilia. Over 53% agree with it. Data from their own websites. The average lonely femcel hates herself and isn’t encouraging raping men. Get over it.

[@The_Comedian556]

4:05 she literally admits shes neither celibate nor is it involuntary. You cant make this up.

[@metal64thesecond48]

Woman moment

[@dekafs2469]

"it's more complicated than just sex" - but C4, the same goes for male incels. Male incels might say that all their woes are caused by a lack of sex, but if women started giving them sex and they were still getting rejected by society as friends and partners, they would feel the exact same way that these women feel. It's about wanting your needs filled, but not being able to due to a lack of social skills, neurodivergence and/or countless negative experiences that you've had with the opposite gender (and from society at large) causing a society-wide rejection and extreme anxiety.

[@MainMasquerade-ik8df]

Womp womp

[@MainMasquerade-ik8df]

@@BULD0SIS I know. So these women should stop trying to get on a male problem because it’s gaining notoriety. They never change

[@jaybee4288]

I think a lot of times the guys are just unattractive and there’s a lot of choice nowadays. I sit down in a coffee shop and 3 guys approach me in 1 hour. So there’s going to be guys that miss out, because the supply is higher than the demand. I don’t think these groups are helpful and I don’t think classing them as “average men” is very helpful either, because it’s dishonest. A lot of these guys are a result of bad genetics due to years of women having to marry for money, and while this is mean to say, the less they get to reproduce the better the problem will get in future.

[@lycan2494]

@@MainMasquerade-ik8df let me sa u

[@pangu9550]

You make a lot of sense but deep emotional issues are the main problem for these guys. Many are in a catch-22 -they want a women, yet they don't really like women and women sense that and reject them. Many only want to possess a woman for sex and aren't interested in emotional intimacy with a human being and women sense that. If they were better at hiding how shallow they are they could get a gf. It is true though that better looking and rich guys can get away with a bad personality with shallow women, but even those guys have to hide the worst of their misogeny. A fully hetero guy who adores women can look like a pig and attract the most beautiful women. Those guys develop personality and hold the keys to the Kingdom because they understand that the most beautiful women have the luxury of not giving a rats arse what anyone looks like.

[@chrisdornerrespecter8884]

Remember when the FemaleForeverAlone subreddit had to go private because so many men were trying to talk to them? How many women were trying to talk to the men in ForeverAlone? Zero. Absolutely zero

[@rickyismyuncle4485]

This deserves top comment.

[@tgheretford]

Briffault's Law in action.

[@matro2]

This.

[@hendrx]

perfect profile pic too, good for you man

[@tungstenanderson5991]

@@tgheretford That's not, incel.

[@casey-zd5mj]

incels: can't get any chick femcels: can't get the perfect dude

[@portman8909]

Escorts are always an option.

[@kentreed00]

"Oh I'm such an incel/femcel" * has had 5 partners and dozens of people who want a romantic relationship with them and they're perfectly capable of getting a partner but don't want to * People don't know the definition of incel these days.

[@masterkraft4746]

can't get the gigachad I was promised by disney :(

[@ianmiles2505]

Femcel: incel reject.

[@LucasMcCain97]

@@kentreed00guilty😩 7 partners, but my friends are double digits. I’m tall and have women approach me, but not of the quality that my friends get, they get almost model looking chicks and I’m getting 4s or decent looking ones but not all the way there🤦🏾‍♂️

[@anatole2478]

That '' kidology '' youtuber who allegedly never been in an intimate relationship because the men she's been attracted to weren't attracted to her came out as a lesbian two months ago.

[@FourLionsClips]

of course she did.

[@EtoCobra]

She is still too depressed to get in a relationship anyway.

[@yurigansmith]

Involuntary lesbian?

[@robertprior94]

Likkety splits

[@ArtVandelayOfficial]

Could have guessed

[@revol148]

Interview three people - none of whom appear to fit the Incel description, plenty of close up shots of the presenter, a windy cliff top discussion and a brief look at people being weird on the internet.....and then call that a documentary.

[@Sabhoh]

TV-land is messed up, they need to play catch up with KZbin in so many ways

[@AnAussieinNorway]

Thanks, I thought I'd read the comments first

[@revol148]

@@AnAussieinNorway well it's always good to see what you're letting yourself into !

[@buddylove2073]

Yes. This would fail a thesis presentation viva. Not enough of a sample size and criteria for sample subjects not met.

[@adamblackedition5529]

LOL windy clifftop

[@devilscritic]

Documentary about femcels: featuring… no femcels.

[@MrWilson812]

Hard to feature something that doesn't exist

[@pravinrajar8410]

@@MrWilson812it does but they are not as open as incel bro

[@standproudsukunayouarestrong]

​@@MrWilson812they call themselves femminists

[@DrSTAHP]

@@pravinrajar8410 There is no such thing as a femcel in the modern world.

[@chichichichichichiOwO]

​@@MrWilson812one of them literally said that there's whole ass groups of women wanting men killed and boxing and harassing men for simply being men so stfu

[@fenlandwildlifeclips]

I was sexually abused by my Dad at the age of 9. It still affects me now, in my 40s. I didn't trust men & got into a relationship with a female at the age of 18. She was a nasty piece of work. She bullied & controlled me for 4 years. I don't think anyone would believe me if I fully told this story. I was scared of men. Then I met my husband, 21 years ago. We've been married most of that time. We had the kind of wedding I could never have dreamt of. It's not perfect: there are things I am not happy about but he treats me well. Don't go down this road: most women and most men are good people who just want a decent job & someone to love. Don't buy into this. Think about the good men in your life. Don't go down this road. PS my Dad abused my brother too.

[@richardpoynter1502]

Thank you. I'm one of the good ones, I didn't think I was for years. My fiancee showed me that although I'm moody and stubborn, I'm also one of the good ones. She was in a DV relationship and became agoraphobic and locked herself away. It took 4 years of tlc, and now we're getting married and going on a honeymoon.

[@fenlandwildlifeclips]

@@richardpoynter1502 My husband's moody & stubborn but and this is the key point: he treats me well. No one is perfect.

[@The_incredible_Adam]

I think your story is more common than you think. I’m glad life got better for you

[@domsquaaa4323]

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[@Hartley_Hare]

@@richardpoynter1502 I don't know whether I'm one of the good ones or not. As a hopeless God-botherer, I believe that judgment is above anyone's pay grade except for someone an Irish friend called 'The Big Fella'. But my wife survived a DV relationship by the skin of her teeth, and one that included a certain amount of nasty bedroom stuff. She came out of it with four children all of whom are traumatised in different ways. We married a couple of years ago and neither of us is perfect, especially me. I'm moody, can be withdrawn and I carry my own trauma with me, but... it works. To anyone reading this, hold on and, when it's safe to do so, start making slow and incremental changes. You can be free.

[@martianhermit]

None of these women are incels

[@Sam-dc9bg]

Its a different thing. A lot of these ones are bitter that they can't get the dream guy (or even the level of dude who "got away") and are bitter about it for life.

[@Anonymous-sb9rr]

The second woman is, the others aren't

[@who_is_dis]

@@Sam-dc9bg Bitter about being humped and dumped by Chad = The 2021st century romance story 😂

[@internethardcase]

yeah there is no such thing as a "femcel" xD

[@nehriim3748]

Thats why they call themselves femcels, innit?

[@SomethingDiabolical-lw5nx]

I like how people try to understand femcels but just dismiss incels. We truly live in a society.

[@thewhatorwhy]

Yes. That says it all.

[@TheCherry1994]

A society that can go to hell all I care for.

[@Shoxic666]

Eh, for years now society has had double standards. I can make my pfp a hammer and sickle, but not a swastika for example. Eventually you just learn that people are mostly not even thinking about this stuff, they just do whatever the done thing is.

[@Sorakeyblademaster37]

The world is evil. Always had been, always will be.

[@patricksmith4424]

This programme is typical of the current stae of UK media.

[@hjblanchard9661]

Men and women have been systematically turned into enemies. We are made to be two halves of one whole, and we need to love, cherish and take care of each other, both as individuals and as humanity. Love to everyone.

[@TheChrisey]

Well, that is true but they haven't systematically turned on eachother equally. A lot of women started to grow narcisstic personality disorders as a result of the feminist movements, and men have had enough of those women constantly trying to avoid accountability while also trying to get men to pay for their lives. Now the internet is full of gender specific groups posting propaganda and generalizations about the opposite genders. But it all started with feminists

[@tangoalpha1905]

Yeah, you didn't finish the thought, systematically turned into enemies, from 1875 onwards By Britain's Apex-Predator Imperialists, Specifically To Democide The Poors. It's literally Empire Management, farming humans like Cattle.

[@TheChrisey]

@@tangoalpha1905 Nope

[@tangoalpha1905]

@@TheChrisey *Profound.*

[@TheChrisey]

@@tangoalpha1905 That's what your mom said when she gave birth to you as she walked down the red light district

[@rabbiezekielgoldberg2497]

British documentaries are trying to compete with the History Channel for being dramatic and over the top.

[@MaxKnowsZoho]

Incels or not it's just sad. It's a symptom of a broken society for males and females.

[@mikicerise6250]

Dysmorphia seems to be a common thread.

[@The_Comedian556]

Men have it alot worse

[@incurableromantic4006]

That's 50 years of social liberalism and big government for you.

[@mikicerise6250]

@@incurableromantic4006 Is big government when the government tells schools what books students are allowed to read and whether pregnant women are allowed to terminate their pregnancies?

[@incurableromantic4006]

@@mikicerise6250 I'm OK with government keeping liberal perverts out of schools and stopping liberals deleting babies. Those are entirely legitimate governmental functions.

[@Ritualsrevenge]

You visited 3 sad women and called that a documentary. This is why I don't pay the TV licence. 😂

[@joepearce5096]

ok but you know that the tv licence doesnt go to channel 4 right lol

[@katarinabaird4789]

This comment should be the example as to why the education system is failing.

[@musicjunk8266]

@@joepearce5096 are you suggesting that you can watch a tv without a tv license?

[@Taylor23890]

@@musicjunk8266 of course you can. You need to be covered by a TV Licence to watch TV channels live on any TV service or streaming service

[@amaraamara2712]

It's just the BBC you need a license for.

[@mayormccheese6171]

Can't even be an incel anymore without women trying to take it away from me.

[@alinktotheblast40]

lmfao

[@bushy9780]

Men rejectd by society Men create a tiny space in a dark corner to express their frustrations Tiny space gets noticed, women most offended Women colonize new space and ruin it. Many such cases. Time for a new frontier I guess...

[@GregOrCreg]

@@bushy9780 Good. I truly hope the incel thing disappears pronto. Misogyny can never be the answer to anything but lonely men exchanging helpful and supportive words instead is a good thing IMHO. And we have to all start being honest and recognise that not everyone is destined to be in a long-lasting relationship. But what matters is that you can be single and a good person (i.e. not hate women). Unfortunately, no-one in the media is having that conversation. I wonder why. Oh, I know. Because people like to be superior and shame anyone who's 'less successful' than them, and demonise them. Fuck that, unless you want a whole generation of people committing suicide.

[@The_Comedian556]

@@GregOrCreg You want incels to disappear? Start dating more Men. Simple. Incels are a symptom of a problem and the problem is the fact that 90% of women only date 10% of men. And thats not fair. Yes everyone IS destined to be a long term relationship, deal with it. Your misandrist hubris is disgusting. Men are not just going to go instinct. You do not get ti there and demand that we be lonely AND be happy about it. The world doesnt revolve around women.

[@NebulaSon]

​@@GregOrCregMissandry is not the answer either. You can also be single and not hate men. Missandry is also wrong, not just misogyny.

[@ekids.bassment]

What a bad documentary, why don't you change the title and mention your bias. You go into groups to not find violence.... while I see it every day, woman calling for the most horrible stuff. You had a chance to do something good with it, but you decided women must come out on top.... ( I clicked, Don't recommend this channel)

[@thecollector6746]

Notice how when society was only aware of incels....then it was just "meh...men/boys are having a hard way to go thanks to be summarily dismissed as unimportant by 50 years of Feminism..but who cares?", but when society becomes aware of femcels, now it's "oh no...what's going on with our girls ? WE MUST GET TO THE BOTTOM OF THIS!!!!"

[@p33ko81]

This is cultural appropriation.

[@monacophotographyevents2384]

What on Earth are you talking about?

[@JcoleMc]

@@monacophotographyevents2384 It's a joke , he's saying these women are larping as incels , unlike male incels who are actually lonely and depressed

[@bluebellbeatnik4945]

@@JcoleMc but girls and women can also be lonely and depressed...

[@JcoleMc]

@@bluebellbeatnik4945 Only because they choose to be .

[@SuperBoots88]

Why can't the woman hold the conversation with the man? @@robertsmithisrad

[@Ob65]

The constant close up selfie camera is so unnecessary and jarring

[@nax1807]

like a damn episode of peep show wtf

[@chucklessavini1778]

Inself!

[@incurableromantic4006]

It's them trying to pretend they're "edgy" new media instead of woke legacy hacks.

[@KHHVKimchicel]

I thought she was the "Femcel" they were talking about

[@kp361]

None of the women here are incels. And given Lana Del Rey's music is mostly about loving relationships with men, it's a bit weird to claim she'd appeal to incels.

[@thenatureofnurture6336]

Anyone listening to any corporate media about anything is dumber than dirt

[@SansaStarkw]

exactly, They aren't incels.

[@pendafen7405]

LDR is a bit more complex than that..

[@kp361]

@@pendafen7405 Her music is complex. But nothing in it would appeal to someone who identifies as an incel. She sings about sex and love and relationships (most of her music) and her discoveries through life formed in part through those things.

[@Finn959]

@@SansaStarkwthere are barely any incel in the whole,world if we’re going by the strict definition so…

[@Lafuerza_V]

Bruh the blurred face and distorted voice in a desolate location for the meeting with the “femcel” absolutely sent me 😆

[@AmeliahJayne]

yeah, women are legitimately at risk of being harmed. Yet I very much doubt a woman would track a man down they saw on a TV show

[@halfbakedproductions7887]

It's filmed in Ireland. You can tell from subtle details on their car journey, the accents being sort-of NI, and also easy access to cliffs for the meeting. Mainland GB doesn't just have cliffs everywhere but Ireland does.

[@BlackPrimeMinister]

@@AmeliahJayne So it was you then? 😆 Sad case!

[@garbonzojones5348]

@@AmeliahJayneYou literally can't even begin to imagine a woman out there could act in a violent way? What do you think women are exactly, 'cause last I checked they were human and just as prone to being batshit dangerous as any guy.

[@AmeliahJayne]

@@BlackPrimeMinister What? No?

[@HXLproductions]

The difference is femcels are virgin's by choice and incels are not.

[@cheezedoodlenygguh6229]

Lotta those femcels aren't even virgins.

[@_Stin_]

For me, the scary thing is that those with the worst mental health will end up wrecking the mental health of those who just need emotional support. The Internet has enabled lots of extreme behaviour to be normalised or even admired in these small, hidden cliques.

[@trust.worthy]

You can go to these spaces and help these people some don't want help but the ones that do can be supported

[@JewTube001]

yup that's pretty much how the extremist pipeline works.

[@Titbitist]

like normalising terrorism

[@_Stin_]

@@Titbitist Indeed. Lost souls, either looking for insight and direction or disenfranchised minds left in limbo to find their own way out, stumbling across others in the same situation. It's a lot like an online support forum - Lots of questions, misunderstandings and bad guesses but few complete and useful solutions. Extreme situations can create extreme emotions which in turn can illicit extreme behaviours. Unless we can keep a view of ourselves, our emotions drive us to conformity. Life is a series of traumas, but we're not taught the psychological skills required to deal with them well. When we lose control and perspective of our own emotions, we lose ourselves and our humanity. I think lost souls allow themselves to become radicalised because they have lost view of themselves, overcome with fear and dread, a perfect state for another to take advantage of them and indoctrinate them. I've seen it too many times 😢

[@captainchaoscow]

Funny for somebody justifying H*m*s. "By any means neccessary" Everybody knows what that means. Where did you get radicalized?

[@richy12377]

There’s no such thing as a Femcel. There was once a group online for femcels and it got overrun with men trying to pick them up!

[@adammonks591]

Half right. They exist but they are incels. It's not gender specific.

[@ExposeHypocrisy-xm5ol]

@@adammonks591cope harder

[@Remake5182]

@@ExposeHypocrisy-xm5ol Who hurt you

[@MarkARhodie]

lol

[@DavidW-ux2gc]

@Herrenmoralist they do not exist.

[@jamietherooster]

Strange how the narrative changes depending on the gender. Portraying them as a vulnerable victims because they're women, yet when it's men, there are no excuses, it's all down to being entitled

[@Nobody90019]

Yet they can get SOMEONE, men can't get ANYONE.

[@johnmorris1009]

There is a lot of reverse sexism that flies under the radar in Western countries, and you nailed an example of that with your observation. I'm all for women feeling comfortable and equal in society, but the media and ideas being banded about by feminists are taking things too far.

[@prschuster]

Men and women are equally capable of being abusive, but in different ways. We know men can be more physically aggressive, but women can be very verbally and emotionally abusive, holding a grudge.

[@GregOrCreg]

Men can be verbally abusive too. I don't hit anyone and feel strongly against physical violence, but I know I, unfortunately, have the capacity to be mean when I speak. I try not to be, of course. Conversely, I've also been in a situation where women have physically invaded my space and threatened me physically, something I'd never do, esp. not to a woman (inc. the ones who've attacked me).

[@prschuster]

@@GregOrCreg Of course, both men and women can be abusive in just about any way possible, even though they tend to be abusive in different ways.

[@JamieCS1983]

That comparison between incells and femcells were awful, incells and femcells both hate the way thevlook and also blame that, femcells also blame men for their problems, hence the death threats towards men. They both are as bad as eachothe, stop trying to make one group seem innocent.

[@HackersSun]

THANK YOU! I hate the way I look too, and for monetary reasons I can't really fix that makeup is like $20 for eyeliner and it takes you being an artist to get it right, like holy geebus

[@Shoxic666]

Except femcels are just copying incels and playing LARP.

[@Shoxic666]

@@HackersSun That isn't the same as being involuntarily celibate. Women are not able to be incels in the current society.

[@lycan2494]

femcels dont exist 💀

[@jinx8624]

difference is the mainstream media support femcels because calling out women of any kind is bad and we need to show support no matter how awful they are

[@nottin10]

Femcel documentary. None of the women interviewed were femcels. How do you fail this hard?

[@thenatureofnurture6336]

Anyone listening to any corporate media about anything is dumber than dirt

[@MainMasquerade-ik8df]

That’s because Ulgy women are sleeping with men and have boyfriends. These average looking women are overestimating their looks and when they can’t get the high status and six figure earning Chad. They refuse to settle

[@NebulaSon]

Because there's no such thing as a femcel.

[@AlexAnder-rv1gu]

It's the mainstream media, of course they failed this hard. If you want real reporting, find a good youtuber. If you want to know the narrative to see how the people in power are systemically degrading society, then you watch the BBC.

[@ghevisartor6005]

It s not a bug it s a feature. Normies who watch these video dont read comments and think it s a good documentary.

[@lightghost7524]

*So in conclusion, women most affected.* The jokes write themselves 😂

[@ghevisartor6005]

Yes even tho there are hundreds of men that would date them. Incels who have literally zero attention? Nah they are just crybabies.

[@djflorence8051]

it's always the same narrative aka girls = victims, boys - demonized... i've seen those femcel subreddits and forums, there's no shortage of posts calling for all males to kill themselves and laughing about how if they were pregnant with a boy they would abort them... the double standard these jouranalists portray between men and women in this incel community is abhorrent

[@internethardcase]

LOL

[@justus7650]

Yes, exactly what I expected within the first couple of minutes. Somehow, men are only perpetrators, women are only victims, and incels are not even human. Awful.

[@underarmbowlingincidentof1981]

but that's always been true. Incels, Femcels, etc the group most affected, most damaged due to them, are the people inside of these communities themselves. incel terror does exist but even there the biggest damage is done to other young lonely men, radicalized and send further into misery.

[@Skimbledimble]

People like this used to get help and then integrate into society. Now they have spaces online that enable their behavior, tell them it's right and creates an echo chamber which is entirely self destructive.

[@ExposeHypocrisy-xm5ol]

Ive visited their forums they pretty much want to be saved by a handsome man, in other words the attractive football jock didn’t look their way, now they’re sad😂

[@felixoupopote]

They need to get with the incels and make each other happy

[@UndisturbedMonk]

Oh so me? No thanks!

[@starsigngirl9789]

Shut up 😂😂 no way xx that’s crazy

[@jinx8624]

sad because they can't buy gucci but wont settle for adidas

[@NewRealityPill]

Feminism just destroyes everything huh

[@abor1males]

No it woke women up to men bs

[@NewRealityPill]

@@abor1males There's that hatred shining thru. You're brainwashed.

[@BlossomField91]

Nope. Like everything there have been some negative unintended consequences, but on the whole, it's actually a good thing women are treated like equal human beings who have the same rights and opportunities as men, and whose specific needs are understood.

[@InfernalPasquale]

@@BlossomField91 What rights and opportunities did they not have prior to the latest iteration of feminism (2010s onward)?

[@Shoxic666]

@@BlossomField91 Every successful society that still stands was built without feminism. It is not needed.

[@1fan689]

Lauren's situation demonstrates how powerful the mind is. A beautiful, young girl convinced that she is hideous 😔 i hope she gets the help she needs

[@KHHVKimchicel]

You would say the complete otherwise to male incels, wouldn't you?

[@rjflores438]

A woman will still get interest and attention from men if she is physically attractive regardless of their confidence, I guess it is a double edged sword but the difference is that even good looking guys can struggle with women if their confidence is low.

[@internethardcase]

@@KHHVKimchicelyep lol

[@bluebellbeatnik4945]

what if she wasn't beautiful? would you hope she gets the helps she needs then?

[@bluebellbeatnik4945]

@@rjflores438 exactly, ONLY phsyically attractive woman. A physically unattractive woman will not.

[@lamarazmoe6438]

I cant get a 6'6" white guy with blonde hair, blue eyes, strong jaw, greek god body, and a $250,000 minimum annual salary; I'm an involuntarily celibate woman 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@rocky4629]

Spoken like someone who has never been a woman. Even average looking men don’t want to settle down with a girl, they’d rather sexualize her, sleep with her but then dispose of her

[@DavidW-ng5zv]

​@@rocky4629 lies. Average looking men don't have any power in dating and so can't do that.

[@ambriellemason9372]

Exactly 😅

[@lamarazmoe6438]

@ambriellemason9372 Thanks, all women do is lie and hypocrisy is their second favorite pass time

[@NYCSubwayWorker]

based

[@darkraft1020]

She is trying to suggest that female femcels hold negative views of themselves, and feel depressed etc, where as male incels are angry and violent externally. That we should show sympathy for the females, whilst still holding disdain for the males.. Looking at the stats - far more men are depressed and killing themselves, and many men have low self esteem issues.. I think she is looking at a few outliers, and then painting a biased picture, reflecting her biased opinion.

[@Nobody90019]

She's just a liar trying to get attention for being a victim, same as all of them.

[@Shoxic666]

This doc is just anti-male propaganda. Sure feels like being under attack, even if the people doing it say we are not.

[@kulentarian55]

Yup thats what they do , accountability is inconcievable to the female brain, because it destroys their very identity of being the victim which is their power their upperhand and it must at all accounts never be revealed , they couldnt change this even if they tried , does not compute does not compute

[@lycan2494]

femcels dont exist

[@ghosthusler]

She's right though. How many femcels have you seen gone violent?

[@AnAlienThat]

As many in the comment section have already stated, there is no such thing as a femcel.

[@N800-q1b]

no such thing as a femcel​@Dayglodaydreams

[@Niri6qiz]

​@@N800-q1b would you date a girl with a big nose, lots of acne and a monobrow?

[@Niri6qiz]

would you date a girl with a big nose, lots of acne and a monobrow?

[@llIlIlllII]

Yeah but it's interesting to think about why that is. "Femcels" don't exist because girls don't vilify guys by default. They usually get angry and bitter after multiple bad experiences spanning many years.. whereas young men may approach one or two girls, as a kid, get rejected, and start assuming all women are shallow and vapid for the rest of his life. Ugly young women are pretty rare, but even then, girls tend not to be as aggressive and self absorbed as young men. They're typically too empathetic to be able to dehumanize an entire class of people. The closest you'll get to femcels are #metoo women, who could technically get a partner, but don't want to settle for some brain dead man-child. Whereas an incel may be completely unable to find a partner, because he literally has zero qualities that any woman would want.

[@Shoxic666]

@Dayglodaydreams Because it should be obvious to anyone who has hit puberty. Even an ugly as sin woman can get dicked down.

[@handlebar4520]

you can't be an incel if it's not involuntary.

[@Fireglo]

There are tons of women who can't get laid.

[@KHHVKimchicel]

@@Fireglo >Who don't want to get laid with non-Chads FIFY

[@thescarecrow897]

femcel is a paradoxical concept to begin with

[@QWERTY-gp8fd]

chadcel.

[@chucklessavini1778]

No it's not, not at all.

[@hendrx]

@@chucklessavini1778 it is

[@sitdownstandup91]

The term 'incel' was created by a woman referring to herself, in 1997. If anything men have appropriated the term.

[@scifiordie]

@@sitdownstandup91but women cannot be involuntarily celibate as long as they are biologically female

[@Kawaiixdeath]

Having hate in ur heart is really not healthy.

[@charlottebouilloux9186]

it’s mad because Lauren is genuinely really attractive it’s a shame she thinks she’s ugly

[@lint8391]

Her nose is a bit funny looking, but overall, yes she is a beautifully attractive woman.

[@chalk4156]

@@lint8391She has body dysmorphia and has extremely low self-esteem. A comment like that yours could be very damaging to someone like her.

[@ghevisartor6005]

She is a mentalcel

[@nirvanacobain001]

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Stop deciding whats attractive and whats not for other people. And attraction is a whole complex process that involves way more than just a pretty face of being cute. Being insecure is insanely attractive for me.

[@ghevisartor6005]

@@nirvanacobain001 no you stop being a coper and deny evolution. Beauty is evolutionary.

[@wizzyb9761]

What's interesting is that in those subreddits, a LOT of the men and women who think they are unattractive are actually dealing with serious body image issues and probably mental health issues. They also seem pretty attached to the idea of being unattractive and that being the reason they are single. You can tell them they are attractive and they will say you're lying.

[@GregOrCreg]

We used to condemn arrogance, vanity and conseit. Now we condemn modesty and self-effacement. What the world has come to is very sad. Probably the effect of Thatcherism, Blairism, Clintonism, Trump, and the growing power of mass capitalist media. Back in the day, families and religions (and just to be clear, I'm an atheist) were our moral guides. Now it's advertisers and trend-setters, whose only motive is to sell stuff and make money, often by placing too much emphasis on unimportant things like money and physical beauty.

[@wizzyb9761]

@@GregOrCreg I'm not sure if this was in response to my comment or not, but there is a difference between modesty and body image issues.

[@GregOrCreg]

@@wizzyb9761 It was in response to your OP, and my point is that I respect the people you were speaking about because they aren't conceited, vain, arrogant and superior about their looks. Whether or not it's true, they believe they're flawed, as I do. Blessed are the meek and modest. Damn the egotists. Funnily enough, I just caught your reply just as I clicked on a video where Megyn Kelly complains that 'college professors aren't hot enough.' This is the society we're dealing with. Shallow, materialistic people who think looking good matters more than what one believes.

[@wizzyb9761]

@@GregOrCreg I can see what you're getting at, but these people aren't modest, or meek. They are trapped in a victim mindset and come across anything BUT modest and meek. It was quite an eye-opening experience to have conversations with them. Having horrible self-esteem is not the same as being modest or humble. It was almost as if they were determined to be seen as ugly because it made them the most victimized victim. Almost like the mirror image of an incredibly vain narcissist. The narcissism is still there but instead of "I'm way better than the rest of you, you could never be as good looking as me" they announce "I'm far worse than the rest of you, you could never be as ugly as me".

[@GregOrCreg]

@@wizzyb9761 At worst, I feel sorry for them. I certainly don't scorn people with severely low self-esteem the way I scorn people with an over-abundance of it. But, once again, I maintain that there is something to be said for people who put themselves down rather than lording it up over the rest of us. I've never felt threatened by anyone who's put themselves down. I suppose the issue for me is people who hate themselves to the extent that they lash out at others, but in my experience, few of these people would ever openly say "I'm a piece of shit." Quite the contrary. I'm of the opinion that almost all aggression is attributable to either extremely low or extremely high self-esteem, and so, yes, the former can be just as toxic as the latter. However, as I said before, few people who display toxic level of low self-esteem are the types who publicly put themselves down. The dangerous ones are those with secretly low levels of self-esteem who overcompensate with aggressive and self-aggrandising behaviour (which in turn lead to 'white pride' and other extremist identitarian movements). On balance, I think it's good to have self-belief and a moderate degree of confidence. That said, in my experience, people who are openly hateful of *themselves* tend to be more of a danger to *themselves* (i.e. suicide/self-harm/long-term depression/substance abuse) than they are to others. The ones who are the most dangerous to others, are the ones who either have such high self-esteem they become entitled and/or self-righteous, and thus refuse to believe their actions could ever be wrong, or those who cover up their underlying low self-esteem with false bravado and by lashing out at the 'failings' of others. People who *openly* hate themselves are just sad, but rarely bad or even particularly mad. Like I say, I mostly just feel sorry for them, and wish I could help them out of their rut.

[@MiguelKarrera]

femcel=women who cant find chad

[@TomNoles007]

I continue to be astounded at how much dating and relationships have changed over just the last 15 years. My children are my purpose and I love them more than life itself; I'm retired from the romantic scene and have far less stress in daily life. Maybe it's me who has failed to have a lasting marriage, I don't know. No blame being thrown around, over here. Good luck to all of you who are in relationships, I genuinely hope you are together for long-term and life is fulfilling 💖

[@Jinars.]

Technology isolates us more and more.

[@KingDomsKingdom85]

By changed, you mean destroyed, right?

[@TomNoles007]

@KingDomsKingdom85 I can't really disagree with you mate, yes perhaps 'destroyed' is the better word. I'm painting in very broad brushstrokes here, but in general I think the causations are social media, globalism (news+entertainment overload), individualism, to a lesser extent covid lockdowns and of course the cost of living (never being able to own your home). Sorry I went on a ramble there!

[@KingDomsKingdom85]

@TomNoles007 don't apologise, mate, I completely agree with all of those factors that you mentioned. You see what's going on, clearly pal. We're in a dire state, to say the least. Also, mate, don't apologise for rambling either, I'm a fan of the longer comments like that, as it allows things to be explained properly... just like you did with yours.

[@TomNoles007]

@KingDomsKingdom85 Cheers man, it's rare to chat with a good, decent person as yourself in these 'keyboard warrior' days. Have a great rest of the week bro 👍

[@garethjohnstone8662]

To be honest, I think it's glaringly obvious that there is a general growing sense of animosity between men and women these days. It's difficult. Women are angry at the quality of men, whereas men are angry at the sheer inability to access relationships of any kind with women.

[@ivan5595]

just get rid of the "free love" introduced by world controllers and birth rate will rise again

[@Lifelongloser]

Havnt women been angry or upset at the quality of men for decades though?

[@HouseOfSneed]

​@@Lifelongloseryou're not wrong , Adam had the entire world to himself and Eve went running to the devil.

[@SuperBoots88]

femcels only want top 1% men but cant get them to commit, incels want ANY woman but can't get them AT ALL. Massive difference

[@zibane6246]

Women could just choose better men. They choose shitty men and wonder why they are unhappy. Men don't have the same options.

[@ferretman6790]

The lack of good journalism is downright criminal……

[@ronmka8931]

6:02 I bet you this woman has hundreds of men who are bombarding her with messages and when you are out of options, beggars cant be choosers and its obvious shes waiting for Mr perfect to wander into her life

[@nickjackson2421]

You're not very nice are you.

[@ronmka8931]

@@nickjackson2421 you dont have to be nice to everyone, especially those that don't deserve it. She calls herself ugly while she is average at best which means that shes seeking attention and being a "pick me girl", these are ugly traits to have. my point still stands that dudes will be lining up to marry this woman or be their bf, but all she wants is Mr superman.

[@mothball5425]

Messages asking for nudes and when she ignores, telling her she's an ugly b****. That's the reality of unsolicited messages. Nauseating fake flattery swiftly followed by hatred.

[@aristideregnier4883]

​@@nickjackson2421you are not very smart are you.

[@nickjackson2421]

@@aristideregnier4883 Please teach me to be as “smart” as you.

[@RTMgi9]

These women: I'm so overly picky, why am I single? 🤡🤡🤡

[@abor1males]

Have you seen most men 😂

[@MikeJensen-w2v]

@@abor1males yea were ugly or not up to your standards lol

[@SkibidiToiletIslnherentlyAryan]

@@abor1malesI haven’t seen a more obvious bait account. The bait is so bad that it’s starting to grow mold.

[@abor1males]

@@SkibidiToiletIslnherentlyAryan Yet you responded 🤣

[@SkibidiToiletIslnherentlyAryan]

@@abor1males Just calling it out so nobody else falls for it.

[@thewaywardgrape3838]

Women can't be incels. Incels are involuntarily rejected from having their needs met; needs that everyone has. The love, affection and respect that comes from a partner. I dare C4 to find a genuine group of women that aren't able to find someone who fulfills the aforementioned needs. Even serial murderers are doted over!

[@DavidW-ng5zv]

​@@Anguille2 vvomen cannot be incel.

[@jaybee4288]

@thewaywardgrape3838 having a partner isn’t a need. Love isn’t a need. Needs are like food water sleep. You can argue sex but we have other ways to fulfil that need. Also the term literally just means wants to sleep with someone but can’t, which is bizarre when there are adult workers.

[@thewaywardgrape3838]

@@jaybee4288 I'd suggest you look into the 'heirachy of needs'. So far you've shown a base level understanding of a range of topics.

[@thewaywardgrape3838]

​@@Anguille2 To sugest that she's the first person in history to be involuntarily celibate is rediculous and shows you're clear lack of understanding. Literally misinformation.

[@thewaywardgrape3838]

​@@Anguille2 You're insinuating such perceived aggression, which is solely down to you. Typed words have to have the emotional context applied by the reader, not the writer. You added context/clarification after the fact, which was needed first.

[@christophermaclean8555]

Female movements always follow movements that have been done by men before them, no matter how good or how dark. Females always follow males, even when they’re rebelling. They’re never independent as much as they feel like they are. Females will be so much happier if they just bridge the gap with their men so that we can work together. Men and women working together is what is meant to be.

[@j.d.s.8132]

​@jan6742 FEMALES have followed men even when it comes to feminism. Other groups in society led by men had pushed for more political representation before FEMALES got that idea.

[@Shoxic666]

For real. Every political movement that isn't feminism seems to start out with a man. Even militant lesbians just act like they're men lol.

[@stansheppard8929]

This wasn’t great…..TLDR Incels bad Femcels vulnerable Ok, cheers

[@bolt-dbtfg]

"Moral Typecasting Bias" - Dr Tania Reynolds

[@meanon4408]

I accidentally stumbled on a femcel reddit forum and it was the weirdest and most discombobulated chat I've ever read. It seemed the women were trolling while at the same time being on psychedelics while having a teenage temper tantrum and manic episode.

[@obamagaming9456]

If you mean r/femcelgrippysockjail, you just found a bunch of moids roleplaying as femcels. r/femcelgrippysockjail in its prime would've had girls in your dms trying to watch you kill yourself over discord for being a man. *THAT* was peak.

[@richardcrook2112]

I thought they just babbled on about the patriarchy and shared eating disorder tips.

[@Nobody90019]

@@richardcrook2112 This is accurate.

[@truefact844]

How can it be in this world mass-communication people are more lonely and psychological damaged than before the internet. I was shocked to hear a young man say at the age of nine he thought he was schizophrenic because he had a voice in his head. The fact that his parents took him to a doctor, when he explained it the doctor told him that it just him thinking. When I was nine I didn’t have a clue what mental health was or know anything about sex. We should put an age restriction on the internet and give kids back their childhood.

[@GracefulEloquence]

I hear voices telling me that we can visit Sauron

[@jannyjan90]

without being too simplistic .... one word .. algorithms Social media is a business that is dependent upon keeping you engaged. The most important way they do this is the algorithms. They curtate content they think you want to see ... and the more you look up something the more you see of it. And as this documentary said... the more it feeds into the mindsets that lead to negative emotions and breakdowns of relationships But there is definetly something deeper going on for sure

[@snowflakemelter7171]

​@@jannyjan90Yes. Its called social engineering & it is not by accident.

[@Magic-gt4pl]

Because people are sent to the internet by default as a way to solve their problems. People in real life can't be bothered to do what they once used to do. Because it's troublesome. So they send you to google. And that's the real answer. Ignore the others.

[@DeStraffer]

Internet isn't a substitute for real life interactions. Spending times with your friends in real life is much healthier than talking to anonymous people online.

[@culturalliberator9425]

The one girl at around 7 is a real sorry case. She sees people looking at her and smirking as mockery and not interest.

[@mulletproof609]

Smirking at someone is a sign of contempt, not attraction. Are you autistic, do you struggle to read facial expressions or something?

[@robertprior94]

Her pain has been burnt into her brain poor girl. She is attractive and seems like a nice young lady.

[@moonfire41]

That's what happens to me in public with everyone who sees me, they're judging and mocking my ugliness. I hate that I have to work for 8 more years till retirement or Id never go out in public again...ever.

[@TheSm1thers]

The whole premise of these people being "the new incels" is stupid. The person who started the incel movement was a woman. Woman incels have always existed. Elliott Rodgers just popularised it which made it seem like more of a male thing.

[@dawnatkinson7704]

Who started the movement?

[@TheSm1thers]

@@dawnatkinson7704 Alana

[@keykey7959]

Incel = involuntarily celibate. A woman cannot be involuntarily celibate unless she is extremely ugly - like bottom 1%. These women are volcels, they aren't attractive enough to get a handsome dude that's over 6ft and are choosing to stay celibate instead of settling for someone more average.

[@Dylan-bl7xl]

Wasn't 'Incel' a website created by a woman, where lonely people could express themselves and bond over shared interests? Several users successfully found partners through the website apparently. The term was stolen by mentally unstable, insecure individuals so now we're stuck with the current definition.

[@Cookiekeks]

Female incels have never existed. Any female could instantly get a dozen men at any point in time, not just for sex but also for dating.

[@Tenebris8444]

Channel 4 starting to enter the satire market

[@tgheretford]

I don't think Chris Morris could have crafted anything like this for a Brass Eye special!

[@The_Comedian556]

"OMG I cant get chad, my life is so hard!"-femcels

[@Nobody90019]

exactly

[@des-Troy-ed]

Women can't be incels. Any woman, regardless of appearance, can find sexual partners at any time and in any country. However, many women tend to gravitate towards the same few "10/10" men who keep a rotating list of partners and never settle down.

[@Ezzynah]

Keep this level of work up, Channel 4. The entertainment factor is off the charts. :))

[@SlowPeace25]

Why can't men have anything for themselves without women wanting "their own version" of it?

[@McTrollenstein]

If you pay attention, anything we do, they do soon after. It usually gets labeled as lame at first and then oh no, they're here. Bars, gaming, even crap like this tends to follow this pattern. They're literally that codependent that they can't go five minutes.

[@nocturnaljoe9543]

@@McTrollenstein This is actually correct. They are copying even the most re***ded behaviour from us with the very difference that they get fame and success for it. Every. Single. Time.

[@munchwad]

That's why you should never feel bad for female athletes who get kicked from the winner's podium by troons.

[@DavidW-ng5zv]

​@@McTrollenstein they even use the same terms and jargon as us if you go onto their forums.

[@weeb3277]

there is no such thing as a femcels

[@WHATISUTUBE]

There's no such thing as a 'femcel', there is only an 'extremely picky woman'.

[@aaoooaaa2]

STOLEN VALOR! STOLEN VALOR! My culture is not a trend!

[@nocturnaljoe9543]

You are a real one, boyo.

[@anony-moose-m9q]

@@nocturnaljoe9543those who know 💀 ----->

[@amaraamara2712]

The very 1st clip where examples were being shown of what were too horrific to watch, the 1 that we see momentarily was from a film which a woman shot her childs murderer whilst he was stood in the dock in court. She was not a femcel. Please don't make things up to fit your narrative C4

[@Avengerie]

It depends on the context the clip was posted in. Like "this is what should happen to all men, who, as we all know, ladies, are ALL r4p1sts".

[@daves2552]

Not just a film. Really happened. But yes to your point.

[@stevechristie2569]

Amara are you a single lady?

[@S41GON]

Staring long enough into the abyss and consuming extreme content like that can fuck everyone up, not just men.

[@FIREFUTURES]

Could have dived in way deeper on this tbh, men and women are down bad.

[@selvamani1973-p7b]

only going to get worse with more tech

[@Titbitist]

people need to get off the internet and experience real life haha. weak minds

[@Skimbledimble]

You're so strong and wise @@Titbitist

[@splintercast8092]

Aren't femcels and feminists the same thing?

[@onlineonlineaccount2368]

@splintercast8092.....No femcels are basically ''female incels'' who never had a relationship with a male and can't find any man that are romantically and sexually attracted to them so they are unwillingly single/celebate. Where as feminist are just a group of radical females ( often western european women) who basically strive to have the same ''privledge'' and acces to power of powerful western men in society in terms of politics, economics, finance, business in name of ''gender equality'' but if you lay of the layers its just Western women seeking a seat behind the table of men western men.

[@marleyhill34]

Nearly. I'm probably a femcel in practice as I have zero emotions for men. I'm like this because I was abused by my father and then I was abused by my husband. I'm not naturally violent but I no longer wish to be connected to men and I don't care what happens to them. They've become obsolete.

[@TheChrisey]

Almost, feminists are gatekeeping for femcels

[@Shayistic]

Feminist - believing in equal rights for all genders Femcels - female involuntary celibates are these same?

[@TheChrisey]

@@Shayistic Nope wrong

[@DavidW-ux2gc]

Women cannot be incel.

[@goombah226]

Sure they can. Just marry one and viola!

[@admiraleveleigh8573]

glad somebody pointed that out.

[@danielhooper502]

Yes they can

[@Dempsey1873]

Femcell

[@circle2867]

why

[@avatardailyfitnessjournal]

Western culture has this obsession with new subcultures and trends. In 20 years it will be some other "cel" like trans-cels or gaycels and lesbicels.

[@muslimcel4581]

All these -cels already exist

[@avatardailyfitnessjournal]

@@muslimcel4581 ok racist troll

[@avatardailyfitnessjournal]

Ok thanks for the information you must be an Edl-cel

[@AnonymousAnonposter]

Gaycels been around for a long time and are usually extremely bitter dudes who hate other gay guys, bi guys and trans and women. They make regular straight incels look like well-behaved boys.

[@scaboi]

I'm a gaycel

[@wallybingbang4350]

No man is good enough for a FemCel. Luckily I am 55 and had my 20s in a happy era. The 90s

[@SansaStarkw]

SMV is determined by things men cannot easily improve on such as looks, money, status, physical stature, race, IQ, and neurotypicality. It is argued that women don't care about a man's personality, which is often conflated with morality. Some argue that only looks matter. Some say stuff like 'confidence' etc. matters a little but much less than readily observable material factors. SMV is argued to be the same as dating success, and it is commonly argued that direct female mate choice is primary in determining a man's sexual success, and not other external factors, apart from rare circumstances

[@Nick-s8o]

The looks people are right.

[@JeffsWig]

Just another bunch of weirdos

[@vanman757]

😂 Isn't it just fella ?!

[@richardcrook2112]

Eating yourself is pretty weird.

[@Uriel333]

this 10000000%

[@gezzapk]

Too much time on their hands. They all just need to get off the internet or visit a mental hospital lol

[@hb3393]

The internet was a mistake wasnt it. I miss the days of Bebo

[@TomNoles007]

Succinct and to the point, I like your thinking! 👍😁

[@lansiamalonah3002]

What was Bebo like? I was only a kid in the 2000s so I’m intrigued

[@hb3393]

@@lansiamalonah3002 it was fucking class, you just did doodles on your friends walls and wrote quizzes about evanescence

[@keifer7813]

You mean the same Internet you're using to watch and comment?

[@HarunalRashide123]

​@@lansiamalonah3002it was basically the closest thing to facebook, before facebook lol

[@DragonSpawn4Twenty]

If you surround yourself in abuse and violence, you're going to think about abuse and violence.. 🤦‍♂️

[@souxcasa]

True, some people however don't have the choice or didn't at one point and now they don't know anything else

[@ExpensivePizza]

Fun fact: The first use of the word "incel" was from a female. "Alana's Involuntary Celibacy Project", founded in 1997 by a Canadian university student known only by her first name, Alana, to discuss her sexual inactivity with others.

[@BalboaBaggins]

"sexual inactivity" isn't the same as not being able to get laid.

[@alst4817]

God, modern life is depressing. On the one hand it’s so obvious that these people went through a negative mental spiral which was exacerbated by the internet. And I naively think that if they didn’t look at a screen for a year, got sunshine and exercise, they would be fine. But I guess life isn’t that easy sometimes…

[@anderson-gb8rp]

The thing is, literally NONE of these women are involuntary celibate, they can identfy as 'femcels" all they want, there is no such thing, so just making a "documentary" about it is dumb on its own. This is more about misandry then women''s inability to get laid.

[@alst4817]

@@anderson-gb8rpchill out man. I’m guessing you spend too much time on the internet too

[@anderson-gb8rp]

@@alst4817 And? It doesn't make what I said less true either way.

[@non-ya228]

@@anderson-gb8rpyou've got some screws loose bud

[@non-ya228]

​@@anderson-gb8rp😂

[@ansaidso]

This is such below average journalism, it's genuinely insane. "How much danger do you think there is that we could see a woman end up as violent as someone like Elliot Rodger" 🤪🤪🤪 Come on now

[@jace8861]

@@dutchacid With the use of Chatgpt you could have realise this is happen many times.

[@Remake5182]

Most incels are not terrorist.

[@VelcraDeFang]

@@dutchacid There was the I hate Monday mornings female mass shooter decades ago and more recently the transgender female to male school shooter. Women tend to be poisoners or 'angels of mercy' aka nurse killers, just like the young neonatal nurse convicted recently in the UK.

[@VelcraDeFang]

@@dutchacid Also, the Australian woman who killed 4 or 5 recently in a country town in Australia via death cap mushrooms in her Beef Wellington pie. Her ex-husband had a narrow escape previously due to her poisonous devotion and the only reason that he is still breathing is because he cancelled at the last minute.

[@gsomethingsomething2658]

@@dutchacid _"Actually, I don’t know of an incidence ever of a female perpetrating a mass shooting"_ But there _are_ loads of female serial killers. Have a google.

[@VincentVanGirth]

Stolen valor

[@Shoxic666]

I kek'd

[@elsalvedorven5546]

why is our generation so fucked? The amount of hate towards one another is sad and so many people being lonely is also sad. I think COVID really nailed it to the loneliness epidemic. One of my friends meet these people online in gaming communities and its like some of these people don't know how to socialize. its really concerning to see social skills being diminished. I believe part of it is how there are so few places available to socialize with people, once your out of high school socialization is harder. Plus high school is also fucked.

[@marcoprolo1488]

I agree. I travel a lot and I meet a lot of young people often bag packing. A lot of them are autistics, simplists and unable to connect. They can't have a conversation. Sometimes they make faces like monkeys or turn their back. It's really weird but I don't care. It's their soul, not mine. I don't think the Brits are the worst.

[@russellmania5349]

most people have a phone infront of there face for 8 hours a day and now we have an entire generation that is addicted to technology and not socializing anymore.

[@StateoftheMatrix]

People need to take the idea of wholesomeness seriously. When you're sick you need to seek higher vibrational wholesomeness. There are some things a human being shouldn't dwell on....

[@LeMerch]

Can we go back to the day of AOL or MSM.

[@Skimbledimble]

That was the start of this shit

[@NYCSubwayWorker]

That was even worse

[@deltaxcd]

Funny how that femcell 7:00 is way more attractive that the reporter doing interview

[@Richest_Person_in_the_World]

They are both poo in the loo

[@russellmania5349]

she is not a femcel. She can't get Chad.

[@Bimbo-Balls]

Right? 😂😂😂

[@sob_johnnyboouy6434]

Not attractive on the inside

[@bigmungus4864]

Yeah let’s totally skip over the part we’re they stalk and dox. If that was about a woman being stalked and doxed. You’d say she is in danger.

[@thadonis.]

The constant anti men propaganda in msm fuels this deluded behaviour.

[@jasmin_vsk]

anti men propaganda 💀💀

[@marleyhill34]

Anti-men propaganda vs. Actual real life abuse from men.

[@HouseOfSneed]

tbf they don't need propaganda to be delusional

[@Nykoooo1]

Hurt young people everywhere. So much suffering.

[@FourLionsClips]

good, not my people anyway

[@GregOrCreg]

@@FourLionsClips You sound like an asshole.

[@jimpickens4]

@@FourLionsClips hang all boomers

[@Michel-Graillier-fanclub]

The Most Important Question was never asked: How was your relationship with your father ?

[@Norfolkingway45]

I've always said children need BOTH parents directly involved their lives for exactly these reasons. ( unless the parent/s are a danger to the child ).

[@TomNoles007]

Lauren, listen compared to you I'm an old codger (44!), and I'm telling you you're not unattractive. In time, I feel your self-acceptance will grow and care less and less what a minority of idiots think of you. But you can start right now by noticing your patterns of thought and cutting them off from going down the usual neural pathways. E.g. as soon as you start feeling self-critical, cut it off with 'that's just my old way of thinking, I'm likely seeing things that aren't really there (other's perception). I'm going to think 'I'm a good, kind, decent person and when the time is right I deserve to be happy with someone too'. Anyway I hope you read this, and take care of yourself - literally!

[@bluebellbeatnik4945]

what about the women who ARE unattractive? Guys in the comments think they're being nice by selecting the conventionally attractive woman and saying 'you're attractive' but you have no words of comfort for unattractive women. That's not nice and it's just reinforcing the idea that ugly women are worthless.

[@ririschannelx]

Creep

[@SuperBoots88]

???@@ririschannelx

[@mattb6704]

She has body dysmorphia. No matter how many times we tell her she’s not unattractive it won’t change her mind set.

[@MLGDuckk]

@@ririschannelxExcuse me? That was a nice comment. You’re not helping.

[@OJ1992]

What a load of bollocks if they went on tinder they'd get 1000 matches in 5 minutes 😂😂 but the incel guys it would probably make them feel worse when they got NONE even if they were good looking

[@jeremybenson5782]

The second girl strikes me as dishonest. I assume many people have been attracted to her. She is deceived. Also if she doesn't want men, and says no to all men, that is unattractive. Part of attraction is wanting, and being let in. If you deny all men, they will still find you pretty and friend.

[@anony-moose-m9q]

she is obviously lying for attention. what a fool.

[@cheeseontoast9251]

The person in the black hoodie has the band "Heilung" on it, meaning healing in german. They're a neo-folk band and pretty male heavy in sound, apart from maria franz the female vocalist. Pretty weird to have this stance of being aligned with such a group like femcels when the band she wears does not insight such divides, actually the opposite.

[@patricksmith4424]

These people were all well paid to appear in the film, probably actors.

[@des-Troy-ed]

Women cannot be incels. Regardless of appearance, any woman can find sexual partners at any time and in any country. However, many women tend to be attracted to a select few "10/10" men who maintain a rotating list of partners and never commit. If women chose partners based on compatibility rather than societal standards, they would find happiness. Yet, it seems that many women, regardless of appearance, desire a wealthy partner, often aiming for a "6/5" millionaire.

[@mindflayer0319]

You are so out of touch it’s insane. Do you think we’re fools? We date in our league and often times below it. Men are the ones with the high standards and they have deluded themselves into thinking just bc 10/10 women won’t sleep with them no women will. Truth is, us ugly women are invisible to y’all. Y’all made your bed. Lie in it

[@stageiiwappie950]

Seeing modern dating and culture makes me just glad im getting old and testosterone levels declining. Im too tired for all of this these days.

[@kayhaich]

I feel it would help femcels to understand that men can be unfairly become victims of accusations of rape, domestic violence, etc. When I was single, I was accused of non-consentual sex/rape from a female embarrassed what her friend who slept with me might think, so she lied and told her I raped her. It destroyed my life for a time...now I am happily married....it doesn't stop there. I was accused recently of domestic violence by my real estate agent and of attempting to intimidate my wife after she accidently put a hole in the door where there was defective repairs of previous damage. We were not sure if it was a scam or not. I feel it would be helpful for females to understand that these misunderstandings have had more of a chance of happening because of people doubling down on conclusions that are easier to reach these days. Having a critical, non-judgemental disposition on things like this that happen may be important for a brother, friend, father or whatever.

[@Pandarino99]

Plenty of misandrist posts on social media but it’s men who are silenced.

[@Chris_Tinacan]

The internet gives people brain worms 😂 this is a good sign to log off for a while.

[@luceatlux7087]

UH, NO.... As a dude who had pretty severe 'ugly duckling' syndrome myself, I find it EXTREMELY difficult to believe (in fact, I simply don't believe her, tbh) that this female on webcam truly thinks she's not SMOKING HOT... People know who they are in this regard... ESP beautiful people like she is. I do get that unique-looking people may develop odd complexes.. I was called "weird-looking" regularly as a young man (which is a punch in the gut every single time, let me tell you). But she is in the 9-10/10 area. But even at my hottest, I was never going past 7-8, no matter what I did. Idk if that's her deal But I seriously doubt her self-doubt. (Incidentally, as for me, I eventually grew out of it when I grew a "whatever" comfy and confident attitude. After I grew into my looks, I would recognize that, at least for me as a guy, it aaaaallllll depended on context and nuance. I could be a quiet weirdo and get odd frowns and laughter aimed AT me or be in a position of power and confidence (eg, holding a party with an air of confidence) and girls would be angling left and right to go out. As a nerd who was always in the, "class clown," group of kids, I remember being stunned when I switched schools in my junior year and, before I opened my mouth, all the popular girls literally were telling me (in my first days there) that I was the "hottest guy in the school." I immediately was asked out by the highly-regarded "Barbie" of the school. Of course, this was all just cuz I was new. We broke up, no joke, 1 week later. I didn't know how to wield that kind of position and felt wildly out of my element... Then I let my nerdy-goofy personality shine HARD and my regard lowered back to my previous school. 100% True story. I did have fun while it lasted tho (ie, till they discovered I was a huge goofball who didn't take himself seriously at all). POINT?: When you are in the middle numbers, looks doesn't seem to be a static, concrete or "real" thing... It is a very highly-morphous regard (at least in my exp as a guy) that can change in an instant and based on context.)

[@Grace0724]

Did the woman with the blue hair say the woman online was eating her own flesh? Or did I hear that incorrectly? If yes. Why?

[@miainwonderland5052]

There are some strange things online, self-harm online i think has become worse as people get more and more desensitised to it. I can attest to seeing violent and horrible things online and in real life make you do things that are more and more extreme because you see it more. I’m not sure how well I explained it but I hope this helps x

[@Grace0724]

@@miainwonderland5052 thanks for explaining its really sad to hear people do these things to harm themselves

[@chucklessavini1778]

Because mad people both enjoy watching and doing it.

[@BalboaBaggins]

For attention.