Reviewing My New Planer / Jointer / Thicknesser

[@RagnBoneBrown]

My previous video about choosing a Planer Thicknesser: kzbin.info/www/bejne/oqOoi56KbM50eas John McGrath's review of the Charnwood W583 kzbin.info/www/bejne/enyspHmOjdSoo7s Bisch Basch Bosch's review of the iTech 260SS kzbin.info/www/bejne/qnSvk6Wkh9SUbZYsi=0krBupSQ2DNIWmT5 My Dust Extraction Cabinet Video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/h5qVhWVohMxrb9E Scott & Sargeant www.scosarg.com/ use the promo code RAGNBONE for 10% off all CMT tooling 🔨 MY TOOLS 🔨 For links to the tools I use, plus some of my favourite consumables, finishes and more see links below. As an Amazon associate I may earn from qualifying purchases UK affiliate store: www.amazon.co.uk/shop/ragnbonebrown US affiliate store: www.amazon.com/shop/ragnbonebrown 🤝 HELP SUPPORT THE CHANNEL 🤝 Support with KZbin channel membership: kzbin.info/door/VyE_6jEtVZGmYGXtUOL5FQjoin Support with Patreon: www.patreon.com/ragnbonebrown Support with PayPal paypal.me/ragnbonebrown Shop With Amazon using my affiliate link: geni.us/iWD3K 💰 SHOP 💰 Etsy: www.etsy.com/uk/shop/KeithBrownMaker teespring.com/stores/rag-n-bone-brown-merch 🎧 WORKSHOP BANTER PODCAST 🎧 kzbin.info Also available on Spotify, Apple, Google and most other podcast platforms 🔗 LINKS: 🔗 Website: www.ragnbonebrown.com Facebook: facebook.com/ragnbonebrown Instagram: @ragnbonebrown Twitter: twitter.com/ragnbonebrown Email: [e-mail] Second KZbin Channel (non woodwork videos): kzbin.info

[@BischBaschBosch]

Good on ya Keith. Glad you're happy with it. We have a theory about the "grainy" outfeed, smooth infeed. Rough board on a smooth bed glides nicely. Smooth planed board over a grainy outfeed will still glide and not stick with friction. 👍

[@dwalsh3469]

As ever, like a Bosch with the answer to that burning question. Top man.

[@RagnBoneBrown]

Cheers mate, that's interesting! 👌

[@michaelblackmore883]

Hi Keith, Thank you for this excellent initial review of this great machine. I have the same machine which I bought about three years ago. S&S were very helpful in advising about set up etc and I spent about half a hour in their showroom with Adam who took me through the whole process. They shipped it to France together with the Record Sabre bandsaw (another lovely machine) and a Record pillar drill (not quite so great as it does vibrate a bit but hefty and powerful as well as pretty accurate). On my machine the outfeed adjustment is a nightmare as it doesn't have the same adjustment grub screws on that side and the only way to do it is to loosen the nuts securing the table to the hinge casting and gently tap the table to nudge it up or down to set the clearance below the cutter bar. It took me about 4-6 hours in two or three sessions to get it right. The change to have both hinges with adjusting grub screws is a major upgrade. Mine cost me about £500 less though so that's a small compensation. I agree it's a beautiful machine. I haven't looked at others 'in the flesh' and I am sure that the Hammer (about twice the price) is better engineered in some respects but I doubt it makes it work better. I have used the machine quite a lot and my Axminster twin motor NVD 750 vac plus their large cyclone mounted over a plastic dustbin does an excellent job and I have very little spillage outside the machine or accumulation on the thicknesser table. I wonder if your problem might be caused by the length of tubing and number of bends between your extractor and the machine. A bit of streamlining might solve this. I connect the extractor directly to the machine with only about 1.5M of 100mm flexible hose. As I tend to move the planer and router table (my biggest generators of dust and chippings) outside the workshop when doing more than a small job my extractor and cyclones are mobile which helps to keep the pipe runs short and avoids any elbows. I agree with the advice to check the tightness of the set screws on the cutters initially and after a few hours use. I have had quite a few of the original cutters fracture, the replacements S&S sent me, which are German made, have been fine and none have broken. Maybe the cutters on yours have been upgraded to the German ones in which case you shouldn't have a problem but a box of spares is a good idea. I did have a bit of slippage on the drive when thicknessing. I traced this to the clutch lever for the drive touching the top,of the slot in the casing. A few minutes grinding this a little solved the problem. As to your point about castors I think you might fine using four mobile ones a problem. I built Peter Parfitt's excellent design of trolley for mine but I quickly found that it had a tendency to 'go wild' (rather like an errant supermarket trolley) as I moved it around. My workshop concrete floor is a bit off true so this very heavy machine does tend to veer off course quite easily. Once it's moving it's quite hard to control. I fixed two of the castors with a small mod of the trolley and its now much easier to steer. Overall it's a great machine and I haven't regretted buying it for a moment. S&S have provided great support and I would certainly buy from them again.

[@michaelblackmore883]

Following on from your mod to improve dust collection I did a slightly simpler version using only one strip of road applied about 10-15mm behind the edge of the infeed end of the cast iron table. Using my Axminster dual motor vac and a big cyclone there was almost no dust or shavings on the thicknesser table after planing a wide plank about 10 passes. Great idea. Thanks. If I could work out how I would attach a photo.

[@dougsaunders8109]

Scott & Sargeant are a really good company to deal with. I live not a million miles away and have been there a couple of times. Great showroom, helpful staff who are friendly with great advice. Machine looks great 👍🏻

[@roc-wood-creations]

Looks a great addition to the workshop. I’ve always liked the look of the I-Tech machinery, it looks very well made.

[@RagnBoneBrown]

Thanks 👍

[@Shannon-v3r]

I’ve had a Camvac 90L 3 motor for almost a year now, I bet it would do wonders for dust extraction on that. It makes machines with historically terrible dust collection, into decent dust collection. My planer(thicknesser) and my jointer(planer) have no shavings or dust on or around. The Camvac is has no issue when attached to a cyclone either. I put a pressure valve for when I use a smaller hose and works wonderful. I never thought I’d be so excited about dust collection

[@jackdavis8394]

The reason for the gap in the thicknesses bed on the sides is where the gap is to is where the cutter block above is so it means that u can get the cutter block closer we to the bed to machine thinner bits

[@allthegear-noidea1264]

Scratch test! 😂😂 I’m so glad my planer arrived already perfectly set up. Having to do similar to what you did, I’d have been in pieces.

[@RagnBoneBrown]

Lucky you! It would have only taken 20 minutes if there were instructions provided telling what the grub screws do... Instead it took 3-4 hours! 🤣

[@alieverett5895]

morning-ive had the same elektra unit for years and yes feed rollers capacitor failures but for the money is one of the best value tools! Upgraded to the Axminster 315mm spiral pt-similiar design and it also took ages to get level but many cups of coffee, patience and stepping back I got it perfectly co planar -the finish off the block is flawless -had to change a couple of cutters due to reclaimed pitch pine boards-you can never find all the nails!! I have the Axminster wheeled base it's the really heavy duty job and is excellent -lowering the bed can be a pain and ive seen people use a drill with a 6mm Allen driver in a drill -I try not to be in that much of a hurry! On to extractors next!! I use a 100mm cyclone and 3 hp motor in an out building -no filters just empty it before it gets to full

[@josephkrug8579]

If you add another static knob on your lowering handle and make a t shaped piece to go in your cordless drill, that can work for faster knob turning.

[@danieljason8257]

Congrats on your new jointer/thicknesser! Looks like a real beast! Enjoyed the video and especially the fact that you keep it real (showing stuff that doesn´t go as smoothly ((no pun intended)) as one would wish to...).

[@RagnBoneBrown]

Thanks 👍

[@tom314]

Looks like a great machine, the only negative I find of the metal corrugated reed roller, is when planing wood which could be drier (i.e. reclaimed that's been outside or maybe treated etc.) is that the feed roller can collect fine chips and the valleys in the corrugations slowly fill up. I find an awl and compressed air cleans them out reasonably quickly. Afterwards I then use some dry pfte lube which helps stop the buildup. I've never had the problem on proper kiln dried timber.

[@RagnBoneBrown]

Thank you for the tip

[@bigpete4227]

Very pleased you bought this model. I just bought the saw and extractor combo from Scott and sergeant a couple of moths ago and it’s an absolute peach. I also bought the dolly and you’re right, it’s pants. I could make the money to buy this planer/thicknesser but I just don’t have the space. Really gutted. If I ever do get it I’ve got this video and the one from bish bash to refer to for setup.

[@basilguts1786]

Good review that mate,I’ve the the large AXI spiral. I’ve also got a similar looking wheel kit as yours,and what I found a bit easier was to turn the wheel kit 180 degrees which stopped me kicking the sticky out bits every time I moved (I know this puts the locking mechanism to the rear,but I found the trade off more beneficial,) I always enjoy watching your videos mate,keep up the great work.👍

[@RagnBoneBrown]

Thank you

[@tpaulfelder1]

I had that thicknesser manual height adjustment problem with my Felder CF 731. I solved it by mounting a clear persped cover on the face of the handwheel with an m4 bolt and nut inserted centrally in it. Now to change height I use a cordlss drill with the appropriate socket and let fly

[@Cradley684]

All the best with it Keith !!!.

[@CaptainofmyShed]

This looks identical to my Axminster aside from the more beefy cutter head and probably more powerful motor driving it. I’m probably a month away from an initial review. Looks like it’s manufactured in the same place with some internals changed for price point.

[@ianculverhouse]

Completely agree. It’s identical to my Axminster with exception to the cutting block. I’ve noticed that extraction is an issue for me too when thicknessing less than 20mm. If there is a build up of chips inside the bed the boards can slip on the rollers and physically need pulling through. Not ideal. The cast iron chassis which the rollers are seated into also have cavities which collect chips and need cleaning out every now and then. I’m probably going to cover them up at some point. This is literally the only issue I’ve had and I’ve been using it for a few months now. My outfeed table is also a little rougher than the in feed. Doesn’t affect anything. Happy jointing Keith!!

[@Hallworks]

video production and quality is looking fabulous, sir!

[@RagnBoneBrown]

Much appreciated!

[@robertgreen8416]

The book provides clear illustrations kzbin.infoUgkxbnOKZBE4evMO5V2vroHeCjq6d_MV6wJO diagrams that cover many of the essential topics. The projects at the end of the book are valuable for enhancing your skills and creating your own furniture. A digital platform linked to the book that could offer the plans for other woodworking projects with the cut sheets would have been a nice addition, but overall, the book is excellent.

[@AndreaArzensek]

Congratulations on new machine! It is a luxury to have a nice planer in the shop. "Sadly", now you need to upgrade the chip collector. But that's the name of the (woodworking)game 😂

[@RagnBoneBrown]

Haha! That's the plan! 👌

[@karlpopewoodcraft]

Wow so jealous mate, that look the dogs! Great video as well Keith.

[@RagnBoneBrown]

Thanks 👍

[@elvisbeavis]

I have the Charnwood PT10s. They look pretty identical except mine only has a 44 cutter sprial. Same faff with calibration too. I had to buy a separate extractor as I had the same issue as you from my other extractor. I got the Charnwood w685, it does the job but emptying the bag is a chore. In general it serves me well. I've run a lot of 8" oak boards through it and i does struggle a little if I take more than .3 to .4 of a mm off in a pass. especially in thicknesser mode. Those interrupted guide strips on the thicknesser bed also factor more when you're reaching width limit. In general though I enjoy owning it and it serves me well.

[@RagnBoneBrown]

Thanks for the info. Dust extraction improvements to follow 👌

[@TomasRosberg]

Congrats on he new machine! Just a tip, It's good practice to hold down the power button until the cutter is at full speed before letting go of it, I don't kmow a lot about it but understand it has to do with the start capacitor.

[@RagnBoneBrown]

Thanks for the tip!

[@joep5153]

“Expensive plywood!”

[@MrRoccobarbaro]

I very recently bought the axminster equivalent and it’s identical to this bit for bit. Even the crate it came in is the same. Obviously made in the same factory. I see what do you mean about the block and motor, that must be because the axminster is marketed as hobby rather than trade but this is about 500 quid more expensive. You can probably say is 500 quid cheaper than the axminster trade but that one has a 2.2kw motor and is a more substantial machine overall

[@nathanpowell1500]

Looks great Keith, I am happy for you.

[@RagnBoneBrown]

Thank you!

[@rfriday9532]

I wish that the first machine I bought was a thicknesser planer. Getting material square would make everything so much easier.

[@JohnJones-oy3md]

As an American English speaker calling this tool a "thicknesser" sounds so odd, yet on the other hand makes so much more sense than "planer".

[@AGMoneyTrigga]

As an noob from the States who learned just about everything from Keith, I only know UK woodworking terms 😂

[@JimJohnson-sp4wt]

I’ve never seen this type of configuration for sale in the US. We normally only see separate planers and jointers. I would like the option for this for better space utilization. Looks like a nice machine and I’m sure Rag and Bone will use it well.

[@jackthorne813]

The planer mode is really known as a surfacer in the uk

[@dustinw.9044]

​@@JimJohnson-sp4wt there are multiple companies that sale configurations like this in US. I have one from Grizzly that I love. I know Jet, Hammer and I believe Laguna and Rikon all make versions for sale in US.

[@mags8014]

Wow! Good job you know what you’re doing! Looks good.

[@RagnBoneBrown]

Thanks 👍 I would probably still be struggling if not for Stew! 👌

[@woodworkingandepoxy643]

That's a beautiful machine bro. Im jealous lol

[@RagnBoneBrown]

I love it! I've really been using it a lot this week and I can't quite believe I have such a nice machine to work with

[@woodworkingandepoxy643]

@@RagnBoneBrown you deserve it man. Can't wait to see it in future videos.

[@HamishScottWilson]

Have same machine. To move it you should stick a couple of 2”x4” timbers through the thicknessing bed. Too late now but really should never lift with tables.

[@stephensayers4998]

££££ off this weekend. Im now skint lol. Thanks for the review, as it helped my decision

[@pauldevlin84]

looks like a nice machine Keith, defo seems like you made a good choice. Shame about the extractor tho. I vaguely remember being told to buy a 2KW extractor when i bought the charnwoodW583. not sure what most 2kw extractors are like but mine has 2x 1KW motors that can be individually switched if needed - think its a record power/ cam vac.... something like that. no issues with extraction on the planer and its your favourite colour also😂

[@terrywalpole5538]

Have the same and recommend fitting some plastic in the bottom of the screw thread that accepts the locking bolt for the guard or you’ll end up making lots of annoying circles over the top of the aluminium where the screw digs in to it. 😉

[@andyc972]

Looks like a great piece of kit Keith, sadly there always seems to be this trade-off between the excitement of acquiring a lovely new piece of equipment and the inevitable issues with getting it set up and operating effectively, but That didn't seem too onerous, shame about the extraction though ! Really useful the insight and solution from the electrician, questions over a 16A supply can often put people off certain options !

[@michaelwillson6847]

Looks like nice new toy there Keith. Wat out my price range (for now anyway) although granted thiught your lathe was out my range got it yesterday set up today so hopefully thatll go well. The olaoner thicnesser seems really stable abd well built minus the rolling base. Looks like next spreadsheet will be for extractors. 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿👍

[@georges8348]

I would suggest that you check every bolt on every carbide cutter for proper tight. After 1 month of work check them again. I always find several that need a little more tightening.

[@RagnBoneBrown]

Thanks for the info

[@lazygardens]

Be sure to make a video when you use the free plywood!

[@kevanstreeter2431]

Great review Keith, machine jointer set-up is brilliant, only one problem I see. Why do machines which cost a bomb STILL HAVE SNIPE? If they know the reason, why don't they fix it before selling the thing. Snipe frustrates the hell out of me, what a waste of precious wood. Looking forward to seeing your next project.

[@RagnBoneBrown]

It's a bit of a shame, but there are workarounds so it doesn't bother me so much

[@201081hero]

In reference to 5:39 that might be so the cutterhead doesn't catch it if the table can be raised high enough.

[@RagnBoneBrown]

That's a very good point! Cheers

[@dougwardle2175]

I was genuinely excited finding out what you bought………how sad am I😂

[@RagnBoneBrown]

🤣 👍

[@Wes12940]

Hey Keith, looks like you didn't want to appear too irritated by a "first world problem" on camera, but I totally feel you on that. The fact that you have to lower the thicknesser's bed for the planer conversion is going to be such a pain in the neck in the long run. You can easily end up hating the machine in no time after all that hand cranking. Manufacturers these days have no clue how their products are used in the real world really. It would be an interesting project if you entered Matthias Wandel mode and tried to solve that problem. Maybe replace the crank with one that has also a pulley, and motorize it with an electric motor?

[@RagnBoneBrown]

I'm actually not annoyed by it, I think it's a necessary step for converting a combination machine? I'm sure the crank could be attached to a drill to speed up the process but it's not something I see myself doing 👍

[@frederickwood9116]

As a suggestion. Screwfix have some reasonably powerful inline extractor fans. If the fan is placed after a cyclone then the dust factor should not be a serious problem. If you can’t exhaust out a wall then put in into a bag. Screwfix have a unit that compares to the power and airflow of a record power unit at a fraction of the price.

[@RagnBoneBrown]

I'm not sure what you're suggesting? Do you mean get an air filter? I already have one...

[@frederickwood9116]

Your current dust vacuum system is not powerful enough for the volume of chips generated. So a dedicated unit built around perhaps this “VENT-AXIA 17106020 5 3/4" AXIAL INLINE EXTRACTOR FAN WITH TIMER 240V” found at screwfix might be a cost effective way to solve that problem. It would probably need a cyclone separator in the solution and if you can’t vent the remaining very fine dust outside you would need a fine dust filter. Hopefully I have explained my mad cap idea better this time. That machine looks a real keeper. Enjoy.

[@JohnMcGrathManInShed]

That looks like a good machine. I might upgrade 🤔

[@RagnBoneBrown]

👌

[@TheLukemcdaniel]

The 45 degree sounds nice, but why would you want to set it to 92?

[@geoffreycoan]

Nice machine, worth spending a little more to get the best for your money. All you need now is some green vinyl wrap to wrap the planer thicknesser so it fits in to your workshop….

[@RagnBoneBrown]

Good idea!

[@Pete.Ty1]

👍👍👍.Thank you

[@henriaaltonen6870]

Very nice machine. I´m sure you will be happy whit it. ITech as far I know is better (more professional) that Record power and you got bigger cutter head as well. Now I´ll look forward for. your "upgrading my extractor" video :D. Something like Jet JCDC-1.5 could be good option. Expensive thou.

[@RagnBoneBrown]

Cheers. The big problem with the PT107HB and two bed lift machines is that you have to remove the fence to lift the beds, and then find somewhere to put it... Yeah on to extraction next.... It never ends!

[@stuartandrews4344]

iTech would be my choice everytime.

[@sebastiantreloar6045]

I wonder if the top would of been coplaner if you added the fence first. A bit like how a hand plane changes under the tension off the blade and lever cap.

[@RagnBoneBrown]

Possibly! 👍

[@HewAndAwe]

Are you getting snipe when planing? looked a bit to much travel with the blocks of wood to me. You shouldnt get snipe on the thicknessing mode, but then I never run more than one piece at a time, more the case of next piece right behind the other.

[@RagnBoneBrown]

No snipe when planing, tiny amount of snipe when thicknessing one board at a time, much more snipe when running a few boards through. So like you, I only do one at a time now!

[@stuartandrews4344]

Using a engine hoist/crane & a pair of lifting straps to lift the itech makes moving it a lot easier,(not a fan of using eye bolts)

[@_J.F_]

That looks like a great machine but I am a little bit surprised that the thicknesser bed has so much give in it. I know that you do not get surgical grade tools at this price point but in the video it does look as if the bed moves quite a lot in some of the shots. I hope it doesn't get any worse, and/or that you find a good fix for it.

[@RagnBoneBrown]

I agree, more movement than I would have expected

[@AlexEllis]

The Charnwood has a 5 year warranty, but the iTech is only covered for 12mo. What was it that made the iTech the winner for you? I haven't checked all the dimensions, but they look very similar designs, maybe the same chassis/construction?

[@RagnBoneBrown]

Explained in the video ...

[@RagnBoneBrown]

Price with discount made it the best deal

[@AlexEllis]

@@RagnBoneBrown Discounts are tempting! What kind of % did you get off ball park?

[@AlexEllis]

@@RagnBoneBrown I had already watched the video, but wasn't sure you'd covered warranty etc. Glad you have found something that works for you 👍

[@joeleonetti8976]

When you tip up the end of board when thicknessing, how much are you tipping it up? I've only used my new thicknesser once in the past year and still need to figure this out. Been holding off on using it more as I need to upgrade my dust collection.

[@RagnBoneBrown]

I just kind of take the weight off it, so not lifting it much at all but it seems to help

[@michaelblackmore883]

@@RagnBoneBrownMaybe using a roller stand on the outfeed would help with longer boards

[@pasinen]

Is there any play adjustment to the thicknesser table column? To prevent the table from tilting? Grub screws/sliders? Similar way that the play on drill press quill can be adjusted. From the view in the video i didn't see any but maybe there are some on the backside out of view??

[@RagnBoneBrown]

I'll check with Scott & Sergeant but I think they'd have already mentioned it seeing as I queried the play in the table already 👍

[@duncanreed2391]

Aligning planer is a pain. Often find my Axminster has gone out of alignment due to being hit by neutrinos. I found info sparse on setting this, and watch many a KZbin video. Played about originally for days before I cracked it and got rid of all the snipe.

[@RagnBoneBrown]

Neutrinos? What's that?

[@watcherofwatchers]

​@@RagnBoneBrownSuper low-mass elementary particles known for their very rare tendency to interact with matter. Basically, his planar needs readjusting after just existing for a while for no good reason!

[@bennyboysutton]

What are you doing with your old thickness planer? If you would like to sell I would be interested in buying. I would happily collect. Thanks

[@CRAVTBOARD]

It's funny to see how many "brands" those machines use. It's basically the same as the Holzmann, Holzstar and other brand names machine. They all come from the same factory. 😅 I have the biggest version from this machine but from Holzstar and it's exactly the same. Just another label and color and done.

[@RagnBoneBrown]

They may well be from the same factory, but different suppliers may spec the machines differently. This is common across all lower price point woodworking machines

[@CRAVTBOARD]

@@RagnBoneBrown Yeah that's right. They're not exactly the same machines. The basis is equal with all machines but the different brands equip them with their own stuff. So, some of them are slightly better or worse than others. As example Bernardo is a bit better than Holzmann. They're more precise due to their components, even when the machine itself is the same. 😁👍🏻

[@gaz1967]

Similar to the Axminster planer/thicknessers..

[@namulit]

"I'm too old for this shit..." LOL, I know what you mean... 😀

[@Petetrenouth]

With the top up, just check the screws holding that stupid flimsy metal plate thing between the cutter block and the out feed roller, we had it come loose and it took out a load of blade sections. I don’t even know what it’s there for.

[@darrenwilliams324]

Why did your electrician advise using SWA cable? Absolutely no need

[@RagnBoneBrown]

Because it's easier than messing about with conduit

[@Bigfoot0510]

Can I have your old one plz

[@MSBKYT]

Sir....I have skill for wood working, wood carving and specially metalwelding.... Are you hiring helper?

[@RKMLarsen]

I was enjoying watching this video, but sadly I had to stop due to the blasphemy... 😓😓

[@ashleystringer7531]

I fink it really stupid you need a 16 power saply because the maximum you can runn is 400w on 230 power saply and 200w.sud run because 3500w left blower and it was on exston led the only difference between 13amp ans 16 amp is 13 amp is 230v and 400w and 16 amp is 250v and 5000w so it really stupid it depends on how good is power saply is and fusebord is bit love the chance and grat chause of tool and runne off welder off 13 amp 230v as .

[@alieverett5895]

start up current - in three words

[@GoogleAreDumb]

Have you tested the extractor airspeed with your cabinet over there open? I had a hunch when you made it that the filter on the box would significantly cut the airflow as it has much smaller area than the main filter inside. Looks like a nice machine though!

[@RagnBoneBrown]

Yes, the door was actually off when I measured it as I was conscious of the same thing following comments in a previous video

[@kevocos]

Great review and well ware! Must say I am a little surprised how much the thicknesser bed moved when running the stock through. At that money I wouldn't expect that degree of slack.

[@RagnBoneBrown]

Yeah I thought the same to be honest, I'd expect less movement

[@AdrianSams]

£2k for a Planer thicknesser buys a budget model to be honest. I can't think of any manufacturer who makes a decent quality machine for under £5k. That said any company who give a 3ry or more warranty must have some confidence in their engineering. I have a 4 sided moulder planer which would cost £40k today but only comes with a 1 yr warranty. 🙂🙂

[@kevocos]

@@AdrianSams Agree its far, far from high end quality but spending £2k certainly take you just out of budget basement territory, well it should do. TBH I am very surprised that bed is that poorly engineered. My response on the previous "What to buy" video was to purchase a 2nd hand machine. £2k would buy a decent quality sedgwick, Rojek or even SCM machine.

[@AdrianSams]

@@kevocos Agree with you and the quality of all Taiwanese/Chinese machinery is of lesser quality than 95% of the European stuff. Sedgwick is as you know old tech but good tech , also British built. That said their TESH 3 headed tenon cutter was ok but they never addressed the small issues it had, never improved it which is a shame. When the Taiwanese basically copied it they fixed the issues that Sedgwick didn't which is strange. The Rojek, is ok too, the SCM stuff is very good with their "Minimax" line being a budget one but still better than the options previously considered. I invested in Felder Machinery ,Austrians make some excellant machines and their "Hammer" line is their budget line which could have been considered too.

[@ianamck]

Right choice Keith, upgrade the electrics and get the best you can afford with all the features you wanted. From what I can see you shouldn't regret it. Enjoy!

[@c.a.g.1977]

That's a very decent addition to your workshop, Keith! Happy woodworking!

[@alangriffiths2100]

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[@Fusion_Woodworking]

Hammer has a spiral head option, but it’s expensive.

[@peterm3443]

Great video on a good machine! How are you feeling about the table length? What length of boards / types of projects are challenging? Thanks!

[@alangriffiths2100]

Johnjones. In most wood shops these machines are usually referred to as an ‘ over and under’. Speaks for itself I think. Ther are lots of little differences in the same language, the one thing that I have commented on before is in describing sizes of stock softwoods ie. 2x1 6x1 2x4 is how we would put it. The Americans say it opposite ie. 1x2 1x6 1x4. The American way always sounds strange to me but the meaning in both is the same.

[@jwilkinson797]

Is the thicknesser bed movement being caused by backlash in the lead screw thread for the table, might occur if you overshoot the measurement and then wind backdown, maybe you need to go down further and then wind up to the dimension, if that makes sense? This would put support back into the bed cylinder via the screw thread. Interesting looking at the unboxing and setup as I've just bought the Axminster AX2260 in their Black Friday sale and whilst I haven't started using it, the machine looks identical other than the colour and cutter block. Axminster recommends using two 2x4s under the the thickness bed to lift it off the pallet, which is as far as I've got so far

[@FullStackWoodworking]

Interesting couple of videos, I'm looking for a new planer and this was helpful. I just wish we could get nice seperate units here like they do in the states. It pains me having to pay extra for a combo unit when I only want the planer bit.

[@Hand-i-Craft]

Looks like a great machine Keith and a fantastic investment for your workshop. I bought the Axminster Trade 260 SPT and it is a great piece of kit. The price of them went crazy not long after I bought it. Btw I’m just about to spin the spiral cutter blades for the first time after two years of ownership 👍👍

[@ot9180]

“Your” new planar looks great, but have you been contemplating death? What will happen to this beautiful machine, after you are no more?

[@tmitch45]

Great video as ever and it looks like a great machine. What sort of cost is getting a 16A supply fitted?

[@Wasser-fz9ub]

Not shure what to think. There was pretty much to do. And why it would move the move although you have 0 cut depth doesn't make sense to me

[@proq06]

Try record power heavy duty cam vac it is exeptional

[@josephtwilley7187]

I have been watching, liking, and commenting on your videos for years now and I am still confused how you do not have more subscribers. I live in America and love your content.

[@RagnBoneBrown]

Thank you

[@Lord-Panda2112]

You have nicer tools than I do. 😢

[@RagnBoneBrown]

Sorry! 😬

[@carolinaworkshop7091]

This looks like a great tool. Upgrading my jointer was one of the best purchases Ive made for my shop. Locking the guard out of the way seems like a strange feature. The jointer can do a lot of damage. I dont think I would ever use one with the guard removed.

[@Kosh42EFG]

This looks exactly the same as the Axminster for table adjustment. I got mine cheap in a store closing and had to take the tables off to transport. Getting them level was hell.

[@Kosh42EFG]

In fact this looks exactly like the Axminster in all ways apart from different colours and more knives.

[@bluelightalarm]

Love the “digital readout” 😂

[@Jako-fh8zg]

Brilliant editing - “too old for this sh…..click” 😂😂 made me laugh 🤣🤣 love this episode, thank you 🙏🙏👍

[@ianvicedomini2648]

I don't presently own a thicknesser but hope to in the near future. The quality of your machine looks fantastic Keith.

[@stevebettany8778]

Very envious that looks superb and the video was as well. Much to think about my cheap thing is getting frustrating.

[@rfphicks]

Even though those safety guards are a complete pain in the ass, don't ever not use them. One of the Perkins Builder Brothers lost most of the fingers on his left hand on a helical head planer. 😱

[@maxiheck8596]

Te Record powert pt 310 is now also availibel with a spiral cuter Head

[@rogerwoods1351]

that looks like a great new, with a great finish on the wood

[@samrix5793]

I'm surprised you're extractor isn't pulling properly I think I have the same unit and it pulls through on the planner fine, have you tried talking the extractor out the box and just running the hose directly?

[@RagnBoneBrown]

The door was off so it should be exhausting fine 🤷‍♂️

[@samrix5793]

@@RagnBoneBrown yeah that's odd, did you try going straight from extractor to planner without the ducting?

[@RagnBoneBrown]

No it's too awkward to remove the ducting

[@samrix5793]

@@RagnBoneBrown fair enough, did you have a blast gate after the planer? Would be interesting to see how much suction is lost through the ducting

[@66meikou]

I'm envious of what you can get in the UK vs the US. I moved here in 2k and the only proper combo machines like this come from Hammer or Felder and you need a mortgage to pay for them. The tooling we can buy here is ridiculously minimal. Mafell is very hard to find and costs an arm and a leg. Festool only sell a limited range of their weirs here. The only real option I have is searching for old made in Japan combo machines.

[@RagnBoneBrown]

This surprises me a lot!

[@gazgough9264]

Hey Keith, great video as always. Just wanted to say hope you're all doing well with the new addition to the family etc 👍

[@RagnBoneBrown]

Thank you Gaz, it's been a challenge but we're doing ok 👍

[@gazgough9264]

@@RagnBoneBrown glad to hear it mate, I think your brother owes you a night of baby sitting after the lighting install 😉

[@grahamhichens3437]

Yet another really informative video. What utility knife are using to open the crate at the beginning?

[@RagnBoneBrown]

It's a Milwaukee knife

[@jmwoodcraft7842]

Not easy turning the wheel & patting your mouth at the same time 😂

[@RagnBoneBrown]

🤣

[@shaun30-3-mg9zs]

Great video Keith, just what every workshop need's👍

[@RagnBoneBrown]

Thank you

[@davidhull2060]

LVHP extractors don't work very well with large capacity planing machines. I had to bite the bullet and buy a proper chip extractor.

[@RagnBoneBrown]

I'm using an hvlp extractor....

[@davidhull2060]

@@RagnBoneBrown ohhh....for some odd reason I missed the whole chip extractor episode, and some others it would appear.....it's not the first time my notifications have failed!

[@pandoo____]

The smooth infeed is probably so material glides in easily, and the rough outfeed prevents the pieces from flying off the table after you've planed it.

[@pandoo____]

Also I reccomend you label the cutterheads A, B, C, D with a marker so you can track the wear

[@RagnBoneBrown]

Thanks, the blades have a little dot on one corner already 👍

[@tim_biller]

Looks like an excellent machine, once all the faff is dealt with, Keith.

[@RagnBoneBrown]

Cheers Tim