Ram 2500 6.7L CUMMINS Diesel + ZF 8 Speed Transmission *Heavy Mechanic Review* | How Good Is It??

[@CharlesRAmey-te6yx]

What we need is the manual transmission brought back. People complain about different things relating to the automatic. People say the transmissions shifts too much, or too little, and all sorts of other things. To solve all of these issues, put the manual transmission back in and everyone will be happy.

[@davidanderson8469]

I special order a 2007 with a manual.

[@petepeterson5337]

I agree. Moreover everyone wants tons of horsepower, while I want the horsepower set at a level appropriate for the engine for hard use without the engine hurting its self. At the top of a long grade going up heavy, I want to know that I didn't shorten the engine life by asking it to work hard.

[@andyharman3022]

Yeah. A 6-speed with a gear splitter.

[@DeeRizzley]

I was a life long ford guy I mean to the death, and ram has completely made me switch sides lately, with the styling awesome interiors spacious cabs and superior ride quality with a Cummins, and now a zf8 for the hd trucks as well!? I’m sold.

[@jimturpin6503]

Ford going woke disappointed me. I've got 275,000 miles on my Ram 2500 with the RF68, original breaks.

[@austinkeen4577]

The 8 speed ZF has been a workhorse for years. Im glad to see its involvement in the heavier series. Its easily a transmission, maybe even one of all time!

[@PissBoys]

Of all the transmissions they've put in these trucks, this is definitely one of them.

[@JohnDiMartino]

Looks like way too much transmission for a 3/4 ton , it’s specs align with the Allison 3000 series we run in our class 8 trucks,but with less torque capacity. Probably perfect for the 3500-5500 series Chassis cabs .

[@edt689]

I have aisin in mine.no problems for past 260k .been hotshoting and hauling containers since day 1. Lets hope zf hold up just as good.

[@jdksynthetics]

I have heard good things about the Aisin. How often do you change filter and fluid?

[@JeffFoster-s5v]

This has been LONG overdue for the Cummins!

[@rock-uu7qr]

long overdue and still behind sadly why cant they get there shit together

[@wizard_of_poz4413]

​@@rock-uu7qrwhy is it behind?

[@rock-uu7qr]

@@wizard_of_poz4413 duramax makes less power and still tows better due to its 10 speed. Dodge needs to get a 10 speed

[@chrishansen7004]

@@rock-uu7qreh, not really. Those 10 speeds have 3 over drive gears and one extra under drive gear compared too an 8 speed. It’s useless too have 3 overdrives and it’s gonna hunt for gears a lot more and cook your transmission fluid leading too premature failure especially under load.

[@dantimber]

@@rock-uu7qr The ZF 8-speed is widely considered to be one of the best if not the best mass produced transmissions in the world. I can't speak to this heavy duty version but it's been perfect in my Gladiator. Honestly the best transmission I've owned in a truck and this is my 8th truck. It'll probably die tomorrow ha ha.

[@TheMacronical]

ABOUT. DAMN. TIME! I might actually be interested in a RAM 2500 for once now

[@UTBanjo]

IMHO a diesel 3/4 ton is a useless truck. Why buy an HD truck with the payload capacity of a half ton?

[@jimedwards2511]

@@UTBanjo I agree. Will never buy a 3/4 with a 10000lbs rating

[@SupramanTRD]

@@UTBanjoit still had better payload and towing than a half ton, just not quite as much as the one ton. I got a Ram 3500 not for the extra capability, but because it's the only one that offered a reliable transmission (Aisin). As a transmission mechanic, I will never own a 68rfe powered truck. I look forward to a ZF8 Cummins 3/4 ton.

[@TyphoidSnaily]

​@@UTBanjoI don't use my truck to haul stuff in the bed. I use it to tow my 16k pound 5th wheel, my 8k Pound (empty) gooseneck with my Jeep, Suburban, Kubota, and steel on it. Or my Gooseneck Dump trailer. I've also had almost 3k in Laminate Flooring in the bed of my truck and a 3k Camper in the bed. Was definitely fun with the factory air and sway but it handled the weight without a problem. 🤷🤷 Love my 2500 CCLB w/ Factory Air.

[@samuelvelez1643]

Can't wait to see that transmission in a 3500 Cummins pickup

[@madeintheusa9744]

I'm glad I held off buying a new Ram. I was in the market for a 16+ 3500HO Mega/dually max tow air/4.10 gears for awhile until I decided to keep my 99' 7.3 F250 4r100(4 Speed)once I installed gear vendor unit which allows me to "split the gears" which is technically a 8-speed now it made a tremendous difference towing a 40' triple axle 5w toy hauler on the highway and up steep hills. As a guy that works on his on stuff the I6 Cummins is a dream to work on compared to a Duramax or the 6.7 Power-stroke rats nest with the Power-stroke being that absolute worse with everything stacked on top of each other(Hot V Turbo Engine). On top of that every time I see a hotshot truck on the highway 9/10 its a Ram 2500/3500HD .The ease of accessing different components cannot compare to a I6 with the intake components on one side and the exhaust on the other. Honestly the Cummins doesn't need a 10 speed it just needed 1 extra gear but 2 more huge game changer. I wouldn't doubt that it will have a higher towing capacity than the new F-450 H.O

[@wj2791]

Great decision. My 2023 Ram 3500 limited DRW 4.1 is great, except the mpg. I get 15.5 on empty.

[@TyphoidSnaily]

Yeah the HO w/ the ZF in the 2500 is making me seriously considering a new truck. And I was never planning on selling the truck I have. Maybe someone will figure out how to swap the ZF into older trucks. My "Standard Output" 2500 is already tuned and set up how I like it. Transmission is the only thing I've been nervous about. I was thinking of just doing an Ally swap but the ZF is looking nice!!

[@gdtruckern7632]

Yeah I wouldn't mind switching out the 6E for the ZF

[@wj2791]

@@TyphoidSnaily I will not swapping out anything unless something is broken. What do you get for ROI?

[@TyphoidSnaily]

@@wj2791 piece of mind personally. I tow fairly heavy (for my 2500) frequently. 5th Wheel is 16k wet, Gooseneck with a Truck bed camper on the front for long distance wheeling trips is 15k with my Jeep and gear. And occasionally I'll move my Kubota M62 Backhoe which is 13k including the trailer. So far my 68RFE has been ok (knock on wood) big with 35s and a Tow Tune I can definitely see the difference in Trans Temps and pulling hills even with the Transmission locked out of 5th and 6th. My old Duramax would hail the exact same loads without blinking transmission wise. But I def prefer my Cummins. A transmission swap has always been the plan when the 68 gives up the magic smoke. ROI is me keeping the truck I really like that's setup how I like and almost paid off vs trading it in for a new truck that's likely going to be 90k for a similar package and I still will have to do my Suspension Tunes Wheels and Tires over again to the tube of another $8k to $10k.

[@daniellavigne2496]

This is my third Ram pick up truck, One 3.0 liter Turbo diesel (2015) and one 5,7 liter (2020) both with ZF transmission. What a breeze this ZF transmission; reliable, smooth and well calibrated. My new 3500 with the HO Cummins is a totally different story; slow, bumpy and lacking gears. Very often instead of changing gears, they use the turbo pressure to compensate for the lack of gears and it is slow to adjust to my commands. I have the feeling to drive a CVT….. Looking forward to go back to my ZF sweetheart!

[@SupramanTRD]

That's because the Aisin is basically an industrial Toyota transmission. It's made to tow, not be comfortable. Which is backwards for the half tons. Which are comfortable and useless.

[@imnotusingmyrealname4566]

​@@SupramanTRDIt's reliable but has way too few gears!

[@MrNismopro]

I have a Jeep Wrangler EcoDiesel with the ZF. I love the way that transmission runs, it’s like it’s designed to protect itself and work the engine instead. Very conservative with gearing and shifts. It also seems to defuel at shifts. Can’t wait to see the bigger brother of it.

[@robertannable9584]

5.7 HEMI and ZF 8-speed AT is the best powertrain combo available in a half-ton truck. I have been saying this for many years now. Thanks, Alex. You are a smart man. Appreciate your content.

[@aaaaaaab11]

with 392 rear gear is great 2019 Rebel

[@mddunlap03]

It's works in every way to the 10r80 5.0 combo but if slower worse mpg and less hauling the pack of trucks it's winning

[@robertannable9584]

@@mddunlap03 HUH? I've reread this many times and still can't make any sense of it.

[@Chaseg30]

5.7 iforce and A750F enters chat

[@rexchris5283]

I completely agree, best 1/2 ton setup out there.

[@Sl4ck3r84]

Looking forward to this new transmission, really hope it proves to be a good unit. The 10 speeds have developed some less than stellar reputations, hopefully this kicks them in the rear and helps to get them sorted. Great video, looking forward to the next one.

[@SupramanTRD]

More parts, less reliable. It's always been that way. 10 gears is too many.

[@Weak_juan]

This is exciting. I bought my ram mainly for the 8hp70.

[@joshuawesterman6097]

I love your content man, the different cuts between all the trucks and how well it flows is really good, love watching your videos

[@GettysGarage]

Appreciate it sir. I had fun looking into these 8 speeds.

[@gunfreak1911]

I love my 68rfe. I’ve got a custom built and tuned one but it’s a beast. That said I can’t wait for Ram to release this Cummins ZF setup and work out the bugs. I’ll be buying one

[@bobross9524]

You must not drive it much they blow up yearly up here in canada I don't care what billet parts you got in there...

[@joshuareed3999]

Too bad they took away the manual trans. I had a 2012 3500 with the 6.7 and a 6 spd manual. It needed a new clutch pretty quickly, but what a solid setup once I put a dual disc in it. I didn't know what I had at the time!

[@Polskmofo]

I had an 01 5.9 with a 6 speed a long time ago. Selling that was a mistake… now I’m waiting for when my dad wants to sell his 2014 with a 6 speed so I can buy it from him.

[@charlesamey3144]

@@PolskmofoBringing the manual transmission back will stop everyone's problems with the automatics' shift patterns. The driver gets to choose when to shift.

[@davidanderson8469]

Noisy suckers though. I don't tow or carry a camper anymore so I'm going back to dmf and the near silent trans.

[@stgraves260]

Got a new 1/2 Ford F150 WT with the 10spd auto. The company bought it for me so no complaints. I don’t know all the gearing yet but WoW it shifts a lot. I took the toll road yesterday on the way home from work. Set the cruise at 75 mph. Drove around 40 miles on the toll. It spent more times in 8th gear than it did 10th. I’ll see how it does today because I do a lot of stopping and going.

[@johnking4221]

I just rolled 300k on my 6 speed. Admittedly, i dont tow heavy loads, but 300k with zero hiccups seems good to me. Also, zero engine, fuel, turbo issues either.

[@shawnh9677]

the aisin has been rock solid. ive had 5 trucks with the aisin 6speed all have been rock solid. they tow everyday and get drain and fills every 25k miles filters every 50k. no issues no complaints hopefully they will still offer the aisin at least in the tradesman work truck 3500 models

[@davidanderson8469]

Aisin has supplied autos for Toyota for ages.

[@Tibbygames]

Can't wait for the conversion kit for the older models

[@mdp66403]

I think there is one thing to consider. Just like the new 10 speed “Allison” in the Duramax is not exactly the same as the 10 speed Allison behind the 6.6 gas engine, doesn’t mean Ram didn’t send their own specs to ZF…

[@jamesgeorge4874]

FCA decided to select a transmission that ZF already builds, for class 5/6/7 trucks.

[@zlt4lt4zz71]

I think it should be called a Allison like the old real Allison manufactured tranns it's just a Joke🤡🤡 calling it Allison trannny get the 10spn got approved by Allison but it's not and Allison what a joke🤡🤡😪

[@truckguy6.7]

@@jamesgeorge4874 I have been reading press releases about this transmission and the new facility that this transmission will be built at for the past 4 years. This transmission was designed and built with the Ram HD in mind right from the beginning. Will it slide into other applications? Yeah, but the main focus was the Ram.

[@samuelhatch8470]

It's not an Allison transmission since 2019. Truthfully it's just Allison tested and stamped. The 10 speed in Ford and Chevy are not great transmissions.

[@zlt4lt4zz71]

@samuelhatch8470 thats way it should be called Allison transmission😵😵 even though it was tested by them... Chevy is weak on that move for that its like Ram making there own engine try say it's a Cummings😵 what a joke my manon Chevy's behave🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️😂🤡🤡😵

[@stgraves260]

ZF makes transmissions for Formula 1 cars, LaMans, Grand Prix, the ZR 1 vet, semi trucks, the 91 -92 Pontiac Fire Hawk, ships, planes, helicopters. I’m glad Ram stayed with ZF.

[@justinbourgeois4685]

It's a premium product for sure. But it costs more to pay ZF royalties. Then they have to pay Cummins it's share. That's why to compete with Ford, the have to build them in Mexico vs the USA. To keep costs down. I like ram

[@dor1tomcswagger69]

Forgot pdk from Porsche designed with porsche the best trans out there

[@promisefisheries7901]

Kinda funny, in the marine world they are #2 in a field of two. They still work and are cheaper, but twin disc they are not. Just kinda weird to hear the spoken of in hused and reverent tones.

[@RVthereyet25]

And Prevost busses…. 500 HP and 1500lbft

[@airratchetjockey7605]

It’s about time! Shouldn’t have to pull the unit for any electrical would all be accessible from the pan or valve body drop.

[@raycoleman3183]

so, @ The Getty Adventures …please explain exactly what about the 68RFE is “holding back” the 6.7 Cummins. I realize the greater number of forward gear ratios the better the chance of finding an optimum ratio for a given load and road conditions. I have. 6.7 Cummins Ram and have towed extensively with it an 18ft HD trailer (est. 2700#) and loads there on up to about 6k additional wt. My routes have included flatlands and mountainous terrain in CO, AR, PA, TN etc. Never had any reason to think my eng/trans combo was deficient. Be interested your ‘reasoning’ to support your opinion. Before this truck, I had an ‘04 5.9 Cummins with a 4 speed Mopar automatic and towed with it extensively for 97xxx miles…no complaints. 0:17

[@UnitedStatesofCriminalBastards]

That’s because you’ve only hauled 8,700lbs. Pull some more weight. That said 68rfe stock nowadays are not bad. RAM owners just beat on their trucks without doing proper maintenance unlike the other two, rarely see them hauling anything.

[@UnitedStatesofCriminalBastards]

That’s because you’ve only hauled 8,700lbs. Pull some more weight. That said 68rfe stock nowadays are not bad. RAM owners just beat on their trucks without doing proper maintenance unlike the other two, rarely see them hauling anything.

[@jordanh4127]

You seem very “Getty” about this! 😜. It will be interesting what gearing they offer. My 2023 chevy 3500 6.6 gasser has a 3:73. Wish it had a 4:10 option. The 8 speed in the Cummins might tempt me to switch in 5 years.

[@idaho_7407]

Glad to have bought the HO/Aisin this year. Will wait for “Mickey” to test the ZF for a few years.

[@99unclebob]

you won't have problems with the Aisin in your truck, they are built stoutly and very high quality internals, when your hauling heavy you don't need 10 speeds, you need reliability in extreme conditions, hot or cold, and when the competition is hauling heavy loads they are not in 10th gear , they are in 5th or 6th maybe , thats where its needed, with over 40 yrs in the heavy equipment industry and lots of exposure to Aisin, any issues were usually owner /operator neglect, ZF also has a very coloured history and built shit transmissions in the 80's for a large part of the European car companies and they were garbage and brought ZF close to losing all these manufacturers, these included Volvo and Saab AB, commercial trucks, so yes ZF is good, it is no better than an Aisin transmission 👍

[@idaho_7407]

@@99unclebob Absolutely love the Aisin in the 2024 year model. It's engagement and shifts are near perfect. Weather Initial Engagement, Heavy towing or Empty the Aisin senses and engages perfectly to match the conditions at hand. With the bonus of a Sturdy, Proven Build.

[@stevescustomtransport2222]

Almost 900k on my 2016 3500 aisin srw going for at least a million or 1.2. Can't tune it but don't care don't want to blow it up, the shifting seems lazy sometimes depending on throttle input but it's been like that since day one. Seems like it protects itself. Even after extending the fluid intervals to 100 drain and fill and another 100 K with filter replacement I'm always amazed how clean the pan is

[@zlt4lt4zz71]

Bien waiting on Ram to update there transs couldn't justify $75k+ on a ram truck with a 6spd trannny that will help me pull that trigger on a new Ramm just got wait en see know on🤙🏽🤙🏽 great video💯🤙🏽

[@GettysGarage]

agreed I could not wrap my head around getting a 6.7 cummins with a lacking 6 speed 68RFE behind it.

[@TD5rage]

In my opinion, the 6.7 HO paired with the ZF 8 speed that I think will be made to cope with maybe 1300lbft is a winner. I think the 8 speed is ideal as a 10 speed would be changing gear too much.

[@justinedwards5672]

Thanks so much for this Video I have been waiting for them to update the Ram HD, I am itching to buy one and I have started to look at the Fords and Chevys but with this info I'll hold tight for 2025 and see what happens. Please Ram WOW us so I can come buy my 3500

[@DM-tf6mk]

Great video! Looking forward to this new 8spd behind the cummins.

[@ralphscholz9533]

ZF makes some great transmissions. I drove HLVWs in the military that were equipped with ZFs. They were strong and reliable, I never saw one fail. (Unless someone poked a hole in it, of course)

[@darinmosier7683]

I had a zf go out at 200k. Put a new one in and now it is running hot on the interstate

[@petek6522]

So they upgraded the transmission and fell short to match the other two brands and are still last in line on that part of the truck

[@Danwea88]

Will they be available as a replacement for the 68RFE in older trucks?

[@JMSynthetics]

NICE, the 68RFE is why I ditched Ram and the Cummins after many trucks. I hope this is a game changer for them. Next step should be an update for the Cummins itself which is long over due for any over haul compared to the competition,

[@gtrance3567]

Can’t wait for you to review the 2025 ram charger phev!!!

[@Taylor98564]

What do you think about the overhaul of the 6.7 for 2025? I heard about an aluminum head possibly. Sorry i havent seen whether you have talked about this in other videos or not already.

[@F450FTW]

How is it rated for class 8 trucks but only handles 1000 lb-ft torque? Maybe I missed something?

[@privateer9181]

Im studying input tq now… it may be the torque converter that allows u to go beyond but im not sure

[@bigedmayra]

The Duke says, exactly. If it isn't designed to handle 1,000 ft lb of torque, what good is it? Sounds like it's an old design from the panzers in world war II. Oh and by the way, panzers can only drive a few miles before the transmission went out. The transmissions were terrible. Just saying. What did I teach you?

[@deepbludreams]

@@bigedmayra the Ford and GM 10 speed fail more often than the ZF8 does. Stop spreading ancient lore.

[@AJmx2702001]

8 speed will definitely work well and as long as Cummins can communicate good with that. New transmission should be definitely a game changer. I always thought a premium engine like a Cummins should have a premium transmission . Might actually finally get me to move over to them since I'm done with GM trucks

[@karlconnell2486]

About time!

[@jacoe33333]

We can’t wait!!! Thank you for update on that. Hope the prices will come down. The Aisin transmission won’t be beat for heavy duty. but it’s not for every day driver but heavy duty. We need a smoother better driving tranny that is reliable. Also. The Allison tranny is not a Allison anymore even tho they have the badge.

[@jdksynthetics]

I am excited and I am willing to wait for a new work truck!

[@shainester]

Some very good info here as usual from this channel.

[@baethye-actual]

I’ve probably built over 1000 RFE transmissions and have had a 5 speed RFE and an 8 speed ZF in 1500 trucks and will say the ZF is a lot less slushy! This is good news for Stellantis

[@MCatwar]

what are your thoughts on the aisin? our truck has it and it sucks. it might hold the power great, but the shifting is slushy and vague.

[@furion7040]

That sums that trans up. That's its normal operation. Shifts like shit but tows and holds power well.

[@JohnSmith-ev1sm]

Well the powerline is rated at 1000 lb/ft for 56k pounds, if the 3500 tops out at 35k maybe they can bump up the input torque spec accordingly? So those 2 ratings go hand and hand wouldn't they?

[@Lq32332]

Ya I was going to say ZF makes stronger transmissions in general. They know what they need to do to get the specs right.

[@elierhernandez1]

Would the 4500/5500 have it?

[@zlt4lt4zz71]

Minutes 12:13 about getting a code i think it shouldn't be much trouble dropping a transmission out of the truck then separating the cab and chassy like Ford to work on some parts of the engine so pulling down trannns no biggie lol that i straight forward process

[@GettysGarage]

Lol fair enough.

[@KEN-du2iz]

Hopefully they aren't so commercially neutered it takes the fun out of the trucks. One thing I love about the 10R140 is the ability to manually select a gear and it hold no matter the throttle input. I needs to be quicker/responsive and if we're lucky... it can handle a tune. Fingers crossed, even better finally a possible conversion kit?!

[@csbartonorgan83]

How does this compare to the Allison?

[@jasonesau3864]

Amazing transmission in the 1500s. We've had 3 Ecos. Really put the power to the ground. Should do well behind the 6.7.

[@PopCorn-ei5bj]

How many miles did you have on those trucks

[@GettysGarage]

I don’t want to jump the gun but ZF makes damn good transmissions

[@M_dot202]

Excellent ZF transmissions in the 2019+ 6.4 HD trucks

[@parrott350]

Hoo ray Alex! Love whatever flavor ZF transmission come in! I have one in my Dodge Challenger behind the 6.4 Hemi, I have one in my Jeep Wrangler behind the 6.4 Hemi, and my Gladiator, even though its behind the pentastar. yeah I get it, that one is not as strong as the ZF 8 HD's but its great also. NOW the big question, do you think they will have a kit to let you put that Big ZF behind the Cummins 5.9? That would be awesome! I have been waiting years, trying to keep that that 48RE shifting smooth in my 05 Dodge Cummins. But I tell you, only four gears, it sure could use the ZF8 HD! Wouldn't that be great! No DEF and a ZF ! Nirvana! Awesome video's Alex, best regards chuck😁

[@GettysGarage]

Chuck you have got a small collection of vehicles I see! But hey I agree the 8 speeds so far have been wonderful units for Chrysler/fiat. It would be very cool to put an 8 speed behind a 5.9 but you may need a little elbow grease to make that combo work lol

[@deepbludreams]

The ZF8 is full electrically controlled and needs alot of brains in the rest of the vehicle to work, It's likely possible to put the ZF8 phsyically inside a third gen ram but to get it to talk with the rest of the car may be next to impossible without getting the guts from a 4th or 5th gen ram

[@DarkHorse08]

10:31 These numbers are for a vehicle that are much heavier than the RAM HD. With the lighter weight of the RAM HD, the torque number will go up. @TheGettyAdventures

[@GettysGarage]

It would make sense, I guess that 1000 lb-ft is a little more abstract but thats why I wanted to touch on it because I wasn't sure what the end result would be for the HO cummins.

[@DarkHorse08]

Did you look into it yet???? You might want to do another video about it. The ZF spec sheet is throwing a lot of people off. Class 5 trucks (as seen on the right side of the spec sheet) weight 16,001-19,500 pounds. RAM HD trucks are Class 2A at 6,001-8,500 pounds. That’s a huge difference. I’m sure there’s a formula that can give us the estimated torque numbers of the ZF under the RAM HD. 😉

[@DarkHorse08]

@@GettysGarage👆🏾See my post above.

[@francoserrato2535]

Do you think we can retrofit the trans to prior 2500s?

[@GerardM37]

I’m wondering this too.

[@DUDEWithDODGES]

How does this stand up to the Aisin 6 speed?

[@AndrewH91]

Definitely a long overdue improvement. I will say though despite all the flack the 68rfe gets, mine gave me 80,000 trouble free miles before I sold the truck.

[@sw5334]

Woo hoo. Power wagon is back in the video.

[@ChargerusPrime]

I wonder if I can get one for my 2014 ram 2500. I bought her with only 70,500 miles on the OD. No bullshit. Laramie longhorn crew cab with the scrollwork or whatever you call it in the stitching.

[@jeremymcnicol9585]

Not crazy about idea of removal of trans to replace some small part when it kicks a trans code

[@Captain-Awesome]

As a commercial grade Transmission what is the service intervals for the trans fluid. I have a 2019 Ram 1500 Laramie and they tell me it’s a life time fluid. That just sounds crazy to me.

[@bigkak788]

It's marketing bs. It's the lifetime of the warranty. It's not magic oil

[@GettysGarage]

I believe ZF has stated lifetime "filter" but not lifetime fluid. not 100% on what the fluid interval will look like. but ideally Ram and ZF will figure that out when the 2025's are closer to release.

[@ottovonbismarck7094]

ZF website states to do the fluid every 60k ish miles

[@Captain-Awesome]

@@ottovonbismarck7094 that seems more reasonable to me, when you go to the dealership or a place like Kwik Kar lube center they say there is not a mileage listed and when it is performed the fluid has to be vacuumed out. The local oil change places don’t have the vacuums to suck it out so then it’s a dealership only kind of item. The truck has just 45k miles so not urgent, it’s just shocking how difficult they make a trans fluid replacement.

[@Captain-Awesome]

@@GettysGarage Lifetime filter sounds better. I enjoy your videos, they are filled with great content that is edited and delivered with excellence!!

[@mixflipextra]

Time to go truck shopping. I’m in the market for an HD truck.

[@kevinarnold3523]

Great Video!!

[@methanial73]

That's really good for Ram. The 68rfe is an ok transmission. People have to adjust their expectations depending on what they're doing. A transmission cooler and an inline filter would be a good idea on the less heavy duty 68rfe.

[@hildablanco1591]

Pto can run a saw to cut lumber or power a winch

[@zaerx777]

The 2 thing the 68rfe needed was a proper 5th and 6th clutch packs along with better valve body otherwise for daily driving and light towing it’s perfect for the masses that do not operate on the higher end of hauling and driving these trucks as Miata’s.

[@Saku19]

Hows the fuel economy with the 6.4 Hemi and the 8 speed?

[@cadenclark6301]

Not ragging on you or anything, but the 10 speed 10L1000 Allison branded trans didn’t get introduced until 2020 when they launched the new body style for gm.

[@stevenberg1903]

Good one! what is the service interval on these and do they have a dipstick?

[@GettysGarage]

Not too much info out on that. I did read lifetime filter but the fluid will have an interval change. I would like to think it will have a dip stick lol

[@1gr8oil]

@@GettysGarage i HAVE THE zf 8 SPEED IN MY 2020 RAM REBEL, and it does not have a "DIP STICK"!

[@bigjohnd1973]

I drove a 2014 RAM 1500 for 5 years and loved the transmission. I bought a 2015 RAM 2500 Cummins 2 years ago (low miles, only 43k so far) and I still am not used to the clunky transmission. This sounds like a sweet setup, mating the Cummins with a ZF 8 speed. I would love to try one out.

[@Spinnaker617]

Serios observation here. I don't understand why we're not manually shifting anymore. Why has pulling a load become so technical? My old 7.3 F-350 4X4 dually with a 6 speed manual did a fine job. I don't pull anymore and my old truck is long gone but is there just absolutely no market for a manual truck?

[@dustinryan9671]

There is no reason it's about money been trying get a manual older truck they are hard to find.

[@doolittlegeorge]

If you want a real truck just buy a Sport Chassis M2 Freightliner which may...or may not...come with stick shift(dual clutch.) That truly is something you can put millions of miles on but of course need to pay for that biggest problem still being Def Fluid and why I got out of trucking. Automatic transmission in an M2 is even more amazing and helps with keeping both hands on the wheel I think is the point...or why I chose to stick with an automatic Class 8 when I had one as a "temporary" anyways. Always hated Dodge Trucks because of the chassis with an horrific scandal of axles coming off back in the 1990s that never made the news before being sold to I think Mercedes-Benz back in the 1990s who didn't do all that much to fix the problem. Looking at these massive machines though and it would appear that issue has at least been seriously addressed anyways. This transmission combined with a straight 6 Dodge is also coming out with could really shock GM and Ford at how robust these massive machines are compared to their offerings. Everyone is starting to feel the pressure from pure play BEV full size trucks suddenly and yes they have zero transmission and yes they have instant torque to go with that. Plus the Cybertruck for as long as it stays in production is an actual Tank so trust me if you just happen upon one it will amaze just to try and put a dent into...plus is all stainless steel. #crazy having said that pure play ICE Platform remains super competitive with also Toyota and Nissan having full size though no heavy duty...all with automatic transmissions very true. Wouldn't be surprised to see a return to a manual if pricing pressures start to get really intense tho as is already true in the F150, 1500 for GM and Dodge, Tundra, Titan even Honda is making an 8 cylinder outboard motor for boats. I think the point of these transmissions is to produce massive amounts of low end torque in the meantime and also relatively okay fuel economy. One huge advantage of high displacement engines over where the industry except Ford and GM have gone is that heavy displacement actually produces far less emissions as it operates at much low rpms. If that's enough to get rid of the crazy engine killing Def monster might be worth ... half of what is currently asked anyways..

[@ralphe.5877]

Great video! I love this Power Wagon 🤗👍 ZF = Zahnradfabrik (Gear Factory) Friedrichshafen (the city where it was founded) Greetings from Germany! 🇨🇦 🇩🇪

[@GettysGarage]

Thank you sir, and hopefully I didn't butcher the pronunciation that bad!

[@ralphe.5877]

@@GettysGarage Thank you for your great videos, Alex! I learnt already so much about trucks. These are not so common over here; but I guess their popularity is growing. Pronounciation was excellent, keep it up! 👍

[@DownsizingMakesCents]

I am really surprised you barely mentioned the aisin transmission that comes with the HO Cummins. I have a 2018 ram 3500 dually with 90k miles now, pulling a fifth wheel all over the us and canada. You never really said why is 8 speed better than the aisin 6speed. More is not necessarily better. Larry😊

[@julioloaiza7452]

The Ram is a very very super truck, but with the zf transmision is converted in a problem truck

[@jnk26]

Now, there are many issues with this info. The powerline that will be available in the pickups WILL NOT BE THE SAME AS THE CLASS 8 trucks. Same case, different internals. The Allison 1000 was over built for a 2000s era truck. The Allison 1000 isn't really a heavy duty transmission. The 1000 and 2000 ate the same case with different gears(straight vs helical cut gears). That comes down to noise. The 1000 and 2000 were never rated over over 26,001lbs gross(GVWR or GCWR) there was a Allison 1350(GCWR 30,000lbs) only for RVs and there were the 2500/2550 that were rated to 30,000lbs aswell(different ratios). Fords 6R140 has a GCWR or 50k now. Looking at the 10R140 it's at 48000lbs(F450 High capacity gooseneck package) 46,700lb stan dard. The only Aisin over 22,500lbs is the AS69RC in the Ram. That 1000lbft is the commercial spec(class 5-8) transmissions, and the Aisin isn't in an application over that in the commercial arena either. The Aisin just like the Allison are great transmission when used at the design capacity. Allison's would go into limp mode as soon as people started adding power, not that something was wrong, the electronics detected more slip that allowed(way more torque than designed to handle). Personally I hated(and still do) the Allison 1000s and the 3000 series, and dislike the 4000 series I have driven. I only seem to like the B500 and B500R, but these are 13-15L engines sending power through them. I don't mind them as the shift strategy only relies on the torque converter in 1st gear and part of 2nd. I dont care for many 6 speeds, the 8s in the rams are ok but smaller steps(more gears) makes for more efficient torque delivery(torque is the ONLY FORCE). If the powerline is only available with the 1000lbft input, it won't be a popular option in the class 8 segment, any truck I have driven at 56k or more always had 1150lft or more, and that's a dog of a truck. Highway coaches are 54-56k and they all have 410hp/1550lbft or more, that's the slower accelerating ones. Those 9,12, and 16speeds are all AUTOMATED MANUALS. Very differnt animals, the 12spd(Freedomline 12spd) came out in the early 90s. This ZF Powerline has been in service for almost 4 years. There is a video of a Ram 3500 with a powerline as a testbed for. 5 years ago. It's a 2019 interior. 2nd gear start, they have been tested I am sure there are more than a few school buses out there with them. There are only 2 engines available with the Powerline transmission. Both are Cummins the PX7 and PX9 only in Paccar trucks. Neither are popular or sold I huge numbers. Allison has a comparison video to the ZF powerline and they say at best this is a 2500RDS competitor. That's a bit below 56k GVW. They also point out the PLASTIC oil pan, TCM in the oil pan and a lack of fill points. Personally I wouldn't by it. The Aisin is probably a better transmission. Stepping up the automotive transmission isn't a great idea. Look at the 68RFE(beefed up 545RFE). I think Ford is still going to DOMINATE the HD pickup truck sales.

[@Steadierpark]

I wonder if we can retrofit the zf for the 68?

[@furion7040]

I don't see why not. If the aftermarket can get Allison's and Ford transmissions behind a 6.7 then I don't think it would be long before they get the ZF in there.

[@chadmiller6487]

Have you heard of any plans to update or change the Gas HD engine?

[@GettysGarage]

well the rumours are the gas cummins but nothing has been confirmed.

[@jeffharvey2519]

I saw a video that showed the Aisin transmission is only rated for 950 ft lbs of torque, so this transmission will be fine. My ZF in my 1500 are amazing.

[@asbrandonsconcerned]

I'm skeptical. The ZF in my 18 charger started slipping before needing its first service and now needs to be replaced.

[@mamatronic963]

Hopefully it will yield the same result as when Cummins-Chrysler partnership started back in the day !

[@Acrscott-p5u]

How is it holding the truck back?

[@charger118]

when do you think we will see the new 2025 HD?

[@LaurieNCooper]

Great info. 👍👍

[@GettysGarage]

I had fun dipping into these ZF 8 speeds, especially the history!

[@SterlingBall]

I drive a 2014 power wagon 6.4 very happy with it.

[@NoLimitsCommemorativ]

Idk man, I was a big fan of ZF8 which was a leading factor in me getting a Ram but I've had to have my 2021 flashed over 3 times. It would rev hang AND rev up to redline in neutral. Electrical issues now and only 60k miles. This is my 3rd Ram, 1500, and have been debating on moving to 2500 but now thinking a Ford F250 after this debacle.

[@TheElderOne2003]

Hmm, figures. I finally break down and spend $70K on a new truck, and all of a sudden, HEY, we are upgrading the transmission to a new one.

[@GarageWorx]

Looks like a sweet transmission!

[@GettysGarage]

I'm excited to see how it turns out.

[@codyweiler6083]

Look what Toyota did with a bmw b58 and zf 8 speed. Killer combo that is very reliable

[@KevinSmith-qi5yn]

I think it's a good choice to wait for this transmission rather than trying to put something like an 8hp75 on the 6.7L diesel. Better to have less gears, then to have gears that cannot handle their workload.

[@chrishansen7004]

Man I’m absolutely excited too see when these come out. Not a fan of the 10 speeds in the gm’s and the fords they’re really jerky and unpredictable. Ram has been killing it with their trucks

[@fobranator4.636]

Jerky? I have a 22 duramax, the 10L1000 is smooth as butter and had been for 32k…not even a hiccup. I had to buy a banks gauge because I couldn’t feel it shift and didn’t know what gear I was in. It’s that smooth.

[@T51B1]

That's good news, but the real sticking point is how much extra ZF and Ram want for it. Will ZF be used or will Ram stick with Aisin?

[@Thedriver96207]

Does this mean my 6.7 Cummins box truck might be getting it in a few years? I’d love some more gears

[@Slingshot277]

Zed F. Your the first murican who said it like that dealing with the zf trans.

[@chrisoconnor3119]

I believe he is Canadian

[@23cummins68rfe]

wonder if they would offer a manual transmission option in the zf cummins build ? id be all over that . zf sounds convincing in a few years for trade of the 68 price dont scare me , just give us the proper options to building our trucks

[@JohnGrit]

LOL! getting passed by the f150! I would be pissed off also! BTW are those Walmart Boots? Come on man you're killing me smalls! 😂😂

[@charileross1986]

49 re is a better transmission and it's final drive or 4th gear is a higher ratio than 8th on the zf and what does this transmission cost to build not close to the re.

[@GettysGarage]

I mean could the 49re hold up to what the modern engines are putting out? who knows.

[@charileross1986]

@@GettysGarage yes they can and diesel engines don't build more horsepower than before they just use stupid technology so you can turn them up without actually being a professional and good by to reliability. So be the future.

[@adrianlaverick8040]

8:31 you said this is a 10 speed transmission, you are incorrect. They did not go away from the allison 1000 6 speed transmission until 2020, the truck you are standing by is very clearly a 2017-2019 GMC.

[@stevescustomtransport2222]

After running the aisin on my 2016 srw 3500 for almost 900k I'm not sure I would want to make the change on the next truck until I see some others high mileage

[@justinsefcik4980]

Cummins and ZF I hope is a great match. I’m a ford man but I will happily switch to Cummins if this ZF pans out to be a winner

[@avioncamper]

Hope this new transmission is trouble free. Alex is so Canadian with the plaid shirt, lol...

[@jdirt1982]

I want this trans with a 6.7 Cummins gas engine in a power wagon...

[@MattChat56]

This is a good move for RAM. If they do this, refresh the look and update, up the standard pier a bit this should move back in the top spot (IMO)