2024 Ford F-250 Tremor 7.3l Gas Godzilla vs Ram 2500 Cummins Tow test MPG loop and drive impressions

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CTech-review

CTech-review

21 күн бұрын

This is video 2 of a 3 part series comparing Gas vs Diesel HD trucks to see how they perform to provide viewers multiple perspectives to consider when towing and using for recreational use.
The first video is comparing ride comfort and day to day MPG fuel economy for on highway/city use.
• 2024 Ford F-250 Tremor...
Part 3 of this video giving my thoughts/perspectives will be coming soon with a conclusion.

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@ajmedeiros77
@ajmedeiros77 18 күн бұрын
Push rod, port injection, no turbos, no EGR emissions crap. So smart by Ford to come out with this engine. Thanks for the video.
@SliderFury1
@SliderFury1 18 күн бұрын
This exactly why I went with Ford and the 7.3. Potential lifter/cam failure is the ONLY even semi-serious problem I've heard of and it seems relatively rare, is mostly with cab and chassis truck that idle a lot, almost always happens within warranty if its going to, and isn't a super expensive or extensive repair. I'll take my chances when I know that engine will go 250K miles easy otherwise.
@CTECH-REVIEW
@CTECH-REVIEW 18 күн бұрын
Completely agree!
@CTECH-REVIEW
@CTECH-REVIEW 18 күн бұрын
7.3 is a beast
@FlyingAceAV8B
@FlyingAceAV8B 18 күн бұрын
I love my 7.3L 250. Sucks for gas mileage but whatever. It’s such a hassle free power plant that I’ll just have another much cheaper fuel efficient vehicle when I don’t need the truck.
@AK_Ray
@AK_Ray 18 күн бұрын
@@FlyingAceAV8B on the fuel mileage aspect, I've owned every gasoline engine ever offered in a super duty. 5.4, 6.8, 6.83 valve, 6.2, 6.2 revised with the g series transmission. All of that is to say, my 7.3 with a 430 rear gets the best fuel mileage I have ever gotten out of a gas heavy duty pickup. I easily get between 15 and 16 unloaded highway.
@herb7877
@herb7877 18 күн бұрын
I know everyone likes what they bought; but having had numerous trucks & RV's over 45 years, i went to gas. Currently towing 8400# tt with a '21 F350,7.3l , 3.73 rear. Tows great with no lack of power going thru the hills & mtns of the Pacific NW & Sisique's as well as the Grapevine & Tehachapi pass in Ca. Rarely use my brakes going down any long hills as well. A recent 4k trip to Az with a camp buddy who runs a diesel with similar tt from Portland thru some serious hills averaged ~1 to1.5 mpg's better than myself. He was also paying $0.50- $1 more per gal and added DEF. His engine cost $10k more as well. I got 10.3mpg he was 11.0 to 11.5; at 62-64 mph. I use tow/haul mode but will manually shift going up or down hills & mtns to avoid 'skip' shift & stay in the torque range. I say get what you want, but a diesel may not be what you need.
@CTECH-REVIEW
@CTECH-REVIEW 18 күн бұрын
Thank you for the comment. You will love my next video!
@bmrentalsnevada5163
@bmrentalsnevada5163 10 күн бұрын
The first 10k miles on my 22 F250 7.3 I spent comparing it to the diesel, of which I have driven all. This was foolish. Bottom line a diesel will out run a gasser. Mileage, torque, etc. However, for true cost of ownership, (and I use mine for towing in my equipment rental business, the gasser is proving to be 20-30% cheaper to operate. 16mpg average with no trailer on long trips, 9-10 mpg while towing. The other day I had 20k on the gooseneck ball for 250miles, held 70 mph and average 7mpg. The 10 speed transmission is what makes it possible. No DEF cost, no after treatment issues, $80 oil change using Motorcraft filter and oil, 12k cheaper than a diesel, 1000lbs lighter. 0 issues at 55k miles. The 3.73 gears help remarkably with mpg. Too many people by a diesel pickup to tow big loads 2-3times a year and spend a lot of money to do it. I love the gasser for what I use it for, which is arguably more towing than the average person and if the motor blows up at 100k+ miles, Ill buy a crate motor for 5k and swap it out over the weekend and still be money ahead over a diesel.
@CTECH-REVIEW
@CTECH-REVIEW 10 күн бұрын
Great comment. Completely agree
@qhiggie
@qhiggie 18 күн бұрын
I have a 16 Ram Cummins. 3.42 35” Falken Wildpeak. I’m @173 k miles. I always lock out 6 th when towing. Always run tow haul mode and exhaust break 100% of the time since new. Been a great truck and I have had zero issues with the 68rfe. Hopefully it will be my last one.
@CTECH-REVIEW
@CTECH-REVIEW 18 күн бұрын
Yeah, I haven’t had any issues with mine either. I’ve never had to lock out an overdrive gear on a diesel towing a trailer this small before. Cummins is a great engine.
@DM-tf6mk
@DM-tf6mk 13 күн бұрын
Great video! Thanks for taking the time to share.
@CTECH-REVIEW
@CTECH-REVIEW 13 күн бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@brendanclarke5805
@brendanclarke5805 18 күн бұрын
I have a 2024 F350 7.3 with 4.30 gears, I am currently towing a 2019 Cedar Creek 37MBH that weighs 14800 lbs gross across the country. I am pulling hills in 8th gear, 8.3 MPG. Its not a diesel but its as close as you can get without paying for one with all their emissions issues.
@CTECH-REVIEW
@CTECH-REVIEW 18 күн бұрын
Awesome. 7.3 impresses me. You will like next video!
@andymcdonald1129
@andymcdonald1129 12 күн бұрын
Yeah wait until that 7.3 drops a lifter we’ll see how much you like it. Fords are the reason built back better was created. Soooo good luck bub!!
@davidcaskey4669
@davidcaskey4669 10 күн бұрын
Wait till a 6.7 cp4 pump goes out or the emissions need cleaned. Would probably be able to put a new 7.3 lone block in it cheaper than fixing the diesel fuel system​@@andymcdonald1129
@RGP_WA
@RGP_WA 7 күн бұрын
Nice! Liked your impressions and review!
@CTECH-REVIEW
@CTECH-REVIEW 7 күн бұрын
Awesome, thank you!
@Patriot-pq1ku
@Patriot-pq1ku 18 күн бұрын
9.5 Mpg with my 2024 7.3 I was about 8000 lbs I love the power the engine is a beast the rest of the truck I've had problems with
@CTECH-REVIEW
@CTECH-REVIEW 18 күн бұрын
Awesome! Nice truck
@Patriot-pq1ku
@Patriot-pq1ku 16 күн бұрын
@CTECH-REVIEW had it in the rockys last week had truck camper on it an pulling a 20 foot inclosed trailer with side/side an gear it went up an down like dream an that's with timbren over loads no sway really I've out in Kansas with a good wind
@1234567890ZETA
@1234567890ZETA 18 күн бұрын
I ordered my XLT Tremor 7.3 primarily to be my daily driver/long distance driver, that said I'm coming from a Power Wagon as I previously mentioned on your other video. My biggest gripe with my 2018 Ram was it's laughable towing and payload capacity. I didn't even looked at the towing capacity of the F-350 and the F-250 Tremor I originally ordered then I saw the official rating and holy cow was I in for a surprise! Long-term I don't have to worry about towing or payload anymore granted I also be reasonable with my truck making it work as a truck at some point.
@CTECH-REVIEW
@CTECH-REVIEW 18 күн бұрын
Thank you for the comment!
@jnmaher1967
@jnmaher1967 18 күн бұрын
Great job
@CTECH-REVIEW
@CTECH-REVIEW 18 күн бұрын
Thank you for watching!
@user-ch2nv4mi3c
@user-ch2nv4mi3c 19 күн бұрын
Great video. The gas engines are a great alternative for those that don’t tow regularly. With the initial cost of a diesel engine plus the maintenance costs it just doesn’t make much sense. Diesel engines are great but with all the epa restrictions put on them they aren’t made to last anymore.
@SliderFury1
@SliderFury1 18 күн бұрын
Exactly right. If you're towing heavy once a week or more, diesel is still the better option. For a weekend warrior like me towing less than 12K less than 10 times a year? Godzilla all the way.
@CTECH-REVIEW
@CTECH-REVIEW 18 күн бұрын
You will like the next video!!
@terrysoule8441
@terrysoule8441 18 күн бұрын
Yes. Absolutely. That was the conclusion that I came to when I sold my Dodge 3500 and bought the gas Ford. What I found, in my experience only, yours may differ, was that towing the same trailer over very much the same route, the mpg favored the diesel by .2 mpg. The unloaded mpg is where the diesel puts distance between the two. I could get about 22 in my diesel (2004) and I am about 13 or so in the 7.3 empty. The Ford is also a heavier truck unloaded, and running 35's with 4:30 gears. A non tremor f250 with 3:45 gears (I think) will be getting closer to 15 or 16. I will say this though: while a gasser will never be on the same playing field with a diesel for power, the 10 speed transmission really narrowed the gap to the point of usable/needed power (power demanded for the pilots out there) in 98% of the cases is achievable with the gasser. So the extra 500 ft lbs of torque is rarely used or needed. It is fun though... The real downside with the gasser is the need to rev out the engine to get to the needed powerband, and the frequency of shifts to keep it where it needs to be.
@chipps1066
@chipps1066 13 күн бұрын
My brother bought a 22 4wd gasser pulling about the same size camper.Last month,Ford put a new engine in it.After 30,000 miles the engine developed a tick that Ford could not diagnose without a full teardown so they put a new engine in for him.
@CTECH-REVIEW
@CTECH-REVIEW 13 күн бұрын
Wow what a bummer!!
@BlackpowderBBQ
@BlackpowderBBQ 18 күн бұрын
My 2017 Ram 2500 CCSB 4x4 6.7 had a weight lose program. it has the 3.42 rear end. I pull a 36ft 5th wheel, with a gross trailer weight of 10,500 lbs. I lock it into 5th gear and once it gets into 5th it never has to shift going down the road unless i have to slowdown. My egt never get above 1000 degrees. my rpms generally always stay around 1800 rpm. its a beautiful things. diesel is the way to go for longevity, ease of pulling, and mpg.
@CTECH-REVIEW
@CTECH-REVIEW 18 күн бұрын
Heck ya! Let it eat!
@TB-jj9tu
@TB-jj9tu 13 күн бұрын
I have a 2020 F350 STX with the 7.3 Godzilla and I tow a 35 ft gooseneck loaded with a 10k lb skid steer. I have no complaints so far, it does everything I ask of it and I haven’t run into a scenario where I wish I had something different. The best part is that I haven’t had a single issue with dirty fuel filters, plugged EGR or that nasty DEF. I deal with diesel engines in my equipment I don’t want to deal with it in my vehicles.
@CTECH-REVIEW
@CTECH-REVIEW 13 күн бұрын
Smart move!! They are nice
@Na0uta
@Na0uta 13 күн бұрын
People get way to caught up on the max possibility of performance their vehicles can offer. And never realize that they will (for most people) never fully utilize it. Consider the trailer used in this video can very comfortablely be pulled, safely, by a middle of the road half ton.
@CTECH-REVIEW
@CTECH-REVIEW 13 күн бұрын
Very good point!
@bparkinson1234
@bparkinson1234 19 күн бұрын
Just finished 9200 miles piling by 7500 lb rv. Colorado down to Texas to south Florida up east coast to Maine and back. May 23 7.3 with 3.73 was amazing. Tow mode with ten speed down shisting after touching brake for 2 seconds was great. I drove a 7.3 powerstroke for 26 years. The gas has more torque and same fuel mileage as the powerstroke.
@CTECH-REVIEW
@CTECH-REVIEW 19 күн бұрын
Thank you for the comment and for watching.
@adrianzbaeren
@adrianzbaeren 17 күн бұрын
I love American Trucks with large V8‘s! In Europe we would haul a 7500 lb trailer with a small 4 cylinder Diesel. The Isuzu D-MAX for example has a max tow rating of 7716 lb and is powered by a „small“ 2.5 4 cylinder Diesel.
@AZTruck
@AZTruck 19 күн бұрын
Nice comparison. I went from a 21 Ram 3500 HO/Aisin to 24 F350 7.3/4.30. Towing the 7.3 is not a diesel but does a really good job. I believe 4.30 gears help a lot. With double overdrive there is no need for 3.73.
@CTECH-REVIEW
@CTECH-REVIEW 19 күн бұрын
Great point!
@AK_Ray
@AK_Ray 18 күн бұрын
Triple overdrive
@FlyingAceAV8B
@FlyingAceAV8B 18 күн бұрын
Have the same and it pulls my 14k dump trailer without breaking a sweat.
@slaytanic921
@slaytanic921 7 күн бұрын
8th and 9th are very close to the old 5th and 6th gears with the 10th in the new trannys being the extra OD.
@mb3578
@mb3578 11 сағат бұрын
Just sold my POS 7.3 Ford gasser! Went back to a diesel, maybe I got a lemon but it was defiantly a POS!
@CTECH-REVIEW
@CTECH-REVIEW 10 сағат бұрын
Thank you for the comment! Sorry to hear about that. Which your truck did you have? What happened to it? I think this engine is amazing as long as it’s reliable. But Diesel is so far superior for power.
@sasquatchcrew
@sasquatchcrew 10 күн бұрын
Just to give you an example The 7.3l gas godzilla = stock 6.0 powerstroke engine wise just with a little less TORQUE So, Although I have a 6.0 powerstroke, in 20 years if Im still alive ill be looking for the godzillas.
@CTECH-REVIEW
@CTECH-REVIEW 10 күн бұрын
That makes a lot of sense!
@jesserevilla992
@jesserevilla992 19 күн бұрын
Appreciate the road test. I’m not married to any maker of truck. The diesel is smooth and minimal down shift, due to the Turbo! Otherwise diesel would be a turtle lol without boost. You’re comparing diesel turbo to a naturally aspirated 7.3 V8; I have towed over a 100 TT’s with every truck out there. Then back in 2019 I was given a new 3.5 F150 Ecoboost towing a 25TB Airstream from FLA to North Carolina. I felt as if it were in a diesel, learning that it’s the boost that made it so smooth. So from all my experiences with trucks. I now have my own F150 2.7 Ecoboost but I tow way less TT. Yet it’s my everyday driver and average in the city with the A/C on all day here in Miami, FL 17.5-18.2 mpg’s.. And I’m downtown Miami or downtown Coral Gables. I also had the 2.7 Turbomax GMC Elevation. And did slightly better in mpg’s at Hwy speeds but in city it was worse 16.-17.1 mpg’s. But I feel the F150 just felt better overall in comparison and enjoy the big side windows. The RAM is one of my favorite in the Hemi; yet became dated in lacking Boost and 10 spd trans etc. And since I can only own one truck; I went what works for me when towing and decent city mpg’s. Thankfully RAM got on board but due to pressure to meet EPA standards etc. Great Vid …. Thanks
@CTECH-REVIEW
@CTECH-REVIEW 19 күн бұрын
Thank you for watching! You will see I have owned a 2.7 and love that engine! Video 3 coming soon
@jabroni6199
@jabroni6199 19 күн бұрын
Which non turbo diesel would you like him to compare it to?
@jesserevilla992
@jesserevilla992 19 күн бұрын
@@CTECH-REVIEW Just subscribed to your channel; you’re on the right track. Glad you will review the 2.7 many of us own it and yet no one is really talking and showing how it tows and if you drive it moderately how good the MPG’s fair in true city conditions or combo city/ hwy etc.. how well are the MPG’s
@estebandiaz3213
@estebandiaz3213 11 күн бұрын
Muy bueno el video,cummins excelente motor saludos desde Córdoba Argentina
@CTECH-REVIEW
@CTECH-REVIEW 10 күн бұрын
Thank you for watching!
@cducote2068
@cducote2068 18 күн бұрын
Wow! I'm in the market for a new tow vehicle for our fifth wheel. It's not insanely heavy (11,500 GVWR). We camp mostly locally and maybe once or twice a year, we'll tow a few hundred miles to Branson or Tennessee. Currently have a diesel and I'm getting tired of the ludicrously expensive oil changes, DEF and all that. Looks like I might be leaning toward the 7.3 gas!
@CTECH-REVIEW
@CTECH-REVIEW 18 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching. Make sure to see the other two videos in this series! You will like!
@keithscott4342
@keithscott4342 12 күн бұрын
I sold my 2011 Duramax a year and a half ago and got a 2022 F-250 with the 7.3L. Absolutely love it! My trailer now is 8200lbs fully loaded and you don’t even know it’s there. And yes, very nice not worrying about DEF/Emissions anymore, either!
@ShawnPatterson402
@ShawnPatterson402 18 күн бұрын
Excellent comparison and two exceptionally nice tow vehicles. I always wonder what folks mean about a truck "working hard" or not "working hard"? Also often wonder why folks worry about an automatic transmission shifting more or less frequently. When did it become so difficult to shift an automatic transmission? That is the entire point of having multiple gears, so that the truck can figure out the best one for each situation and use it. Actually I have been towing a trailer about that size and weight for more than 25,000 miles now with a 2015 F150 3.5 Ecoboost. Did the job beautifully. It had the 6 speed, and while towing in tow/haul mode it would move around between 4th and 6th, and over all those miles I averaged right about 9.8mpg while towing. No complaints there. I just upgraded a couple of weeks ago to a 2022 F150 Powerboost. Tows very similar to the old one, and based on only 500 miles or so of towing so far it seems to get about the same gas mileage. It supposedly has more HP and torque than the Ecoboost, but in real world towing it feels pretty much the same. In Tow/Haul mode it spends most of its time in 8th, but I am working with a pretty tiny sample size with only 3 travel days yet. Happy travels and continued safe towing.
@CTECH-REVIEW
@CTECH-REVIEW 18 күн бұрын
Thank you for the kind words and for watching !
@chadmiller6487
@chadmiller6487 19 күн бұрын
My 24 gmc 3500 gas pulls this weight daily. Always sits just below 2k rpm cruising and gets 9-11 mpg. The most glaring difference I see between the two is the Trans temp. In 55k miles I've never seen a Trans temp break 200 degrees.
@CTECH-REVIEW
@CTECH-REVIEW 18 күн бұрын
Impressive!! Thanks for sharing
@PlayWaves1
@PlayWaves1 17 күн бұрын
The 7.3L Ford stomps the 6.6L GM in pulling power. See the TFL Ike Gauntlet videos, the 7.3L Godzilla pulled the same 16,000 lb trailer up the mountain over 3 minutes faster than the 6.6L GM (8:42 minutes vs 11:53 minutes). It also had less brake applications going downhill than the 6.6l.
@FlyingAceAV8B
@FlyingAceAV8B 18 күн бұрын
Love my 2024 7.3L. I have it in the tremor and I tow heavy every once in a while without any worries.
@CTECH-REVIEW
@CTECH-REVIEW 18 күн бұрын
Heck ya!
@bigmurph1447
@bigmurph1447 18 күн бұрын
I have a 2024 chevy 3500 with the 6.6l gas i have gross out at over 25000lbs a few times and it does well i have no complaints about it.
@CTECH-REVIEW
@CTECH-REVIEW 18 күн бұрын
Thanks for shairing!
@bigmurph1447
@bigmurph1447 18 күн бұрын
@@CTECH-REVIEW I wanted a 7.3 ford dually with the 4.30 but my ford dealer wouldn't let me order one
@nia6849
@nia6849 10 күн бұрын
Why not?
@PatrickAllison-zz2gj
@PatrickAllison-zz2gj 8 күн бұрын
I had one ,I only towed one time ,9 k ,it did it easy ,it also got 18 mpg empty highway. I traded it for a diesel. I wish I had it back .
@hahaadventures4838
@hahaadventures4838 10 күн бұрын
Crazy…..I get 8.6 mpgs towing that same RV and weight with my Ram 2500 6.4 Hemi 4.10’s on 37’s 🤷‍♂️ My ZF trans also stays below 200° while towing as well. Just don’t see the advantage to diesel anymore for the casual RV owner. Wish you’d tested a Hemi 6.4 4.10 truck as well. Think you’d be surprised as well!
@CTECH-REVIEW
@CTECH-REVIEW 10 күн бұрын
I think what also hurts is the Cummins is the lowest mpg diesel option for HD too. My powerstroke consistently got 10-20% better fuel mileage. I have another video posting soon. You should watch. I did get much better fuel economy over a 700 mile pull
@BloodAlwaysFindsItsLevel
@BloodAlwaysFindsItsLevel Күн бұрын
Wow. Pushing 37s that's impressive.
@jabroni6199
@jabroni6199 19 күн бұрын
Good vid, anything above 7th is overdrive on the super duty. 7th is the 1:1 gear
@CTECH-REVIEW
@CTECH-REVIEW 19 күн бұрын
Thanks for the comment!
@FlyingAceAV8B
@FlyingAceAV8B 18 күн бұрын
I thought it was 8th year based on what I’ve seen. 7th sounds too low to be 1:1 based on my RPM.
@jabroni6199
@jabroni6199 18 күн бұрын
@@FlyingAceAV8B7th is the gear where the input shaft spins the same as the output shaft. But then there’s another reduction that happens in the diff and that varies depending on how your truck is configured. A 1:1 ratio doesn’t mean your drive wheels are spinning at the same RPM as your engine.
@FlyingAceAV8B
@FlyingAceAV8B 18 күн бұрын
@@jabroni6199 I know what 1:1 means. I’m just saying that it’s in 8th gear based on what I’ve seen and heard before, not 7th.
@jabroni6199
@jabroni6199 18 күн бұрын
@@FlyingAceAV8B it didn’t sound like you knew because you mentioned engine RPM. 7th is the 1:1.
@adayinthelifeofstroup6687
@adayinthelifeofstroup6687 9 күн бұрын
2006 Silverado 6.0 just did same weight admittedly struggled up steep mountains but did great everywhere else 7 mpg. 13 grand an it's paid for 💪
@CTECH-REVIEW
@CTECH-REVIEW 9 күн бұрын
Nice work!
@36diamondt
@36diamondt 18 күн бұрын
I enjoyed your video and information. What wheels do you have on the Ram? Thanks, Mike
@CTECH-REVIEW
@CTECH-REVIEW 18 күн бұрын
Thank you for watching! Race line gauge wheels!
@smiley3303
@smiley3303 14 күн бұрын
The Ram would do a little better on MPG using Auto Exhaust Brake. I probably missed it but what gear ratio did each truck have.
@iantaylor4868
@iantaylor4868 10 күн бұрын
Yeah quite. Hit a 8 percent grade when that baby drops to 3rd gear and 10,000 rpm😂
@CTECH-REVIEW
@CTECH-REVIEW 10 күн бұрын
haha probably right!
@bparkinson1234
@bparkinson1234 19 күн бұрын
Hey. Also overdrive on the 7.3 is 8 9 and 10th gear. To drop out of overdrive would be going into 7. Can’t compare it to the ram trans.
@CTECH-REVIEW
@CTECH-REVIEW 19 күн бұрын
I believe my ram 6th gear overdrive is same final drive ratio as 9th or 10th gear. I will confirm.
@M_dot202
@M_dot202 18 күн бұрын
I would lock 6th out when I towed with my 2017 2500 6.7, the 3.42 would lug the engine resulting in lower exhaust temps and more regens. When I towed with my 2020 F250. 7.3/3.55 I would lock out 9th and 10th gears to prevent unnecessary shifting. The 7.3 is an awesome engine.
@bparkinson1234
@bparkinson1234 18 күн бұрын
@@M_dot202 I see your point. But 9200 miles pulling same trailer just got back Colorado to Texas to south Florida to Maine and back I had no need to lock anything out. Just let it do its shifting. Please show engine bracking in tow mode. Lightly touch brake for two seconds let up and it down shifts. This was amazing slowing down on off ramps etc. hill decent etc. I live in colorado on 70 and have done the I gonlet. Amazing. Thanks for the great video
@SliderFury1
@SliderFury1 18 күн бұрын
​@@M_dot202if you had 3.73 gears with that engine, would you still lock out 9th and 10th, or just 10th?
@M_dot202
@M_dot202 17 күн бұрын
@@SliderFury1 probably just 10th. The 3.55 w the 7.3/10R140 was a horrible combo that's why Ford no longer offers it.
@marcielindustries9225
@marcielindustries9225 16 күн бұрын
That 10 speed sure runs hot, I'd be worried if my 68 was ever above 185°. The Ford did well though.
@CTECH-REVIEW
@CTECH-REVIEW 16 күн бұрын
I agree! All ford trans seem to run 200 with no load on them!
@HillStreet7933
@HillStreet7933 14 күн бұрын
Those ford trannys with their fluid gets hotter than a 68rfe and is normal for fords with there setup. The fluid can take those 200 degree temps.
@guardrail2897
@guardrail2897 5 күн бұрын
Holy cow. My 6.4 RAM 3500 dually gets 9 mpg towing my 10k 5th wheel.
@CTECH-REVIEW
@CTECH-REVIEW 5 күн бұрын
Thats good MPGs, what speed you tow at?
@guardrail2897
@guardrail2897 5 күн бұрын
@@CTECH-REVIEW 65-70. I never get in a hurry. And I do try to ride behind tractor trailers as much as possible. That really helps. I've gotten as much as 10.5mpg following a tractor trailer going down 81s in VA. For about 200 miles. Then I got off the exit to get gas.
@thewireman134
@thewireman134 9 күн бұрын
The GM 4 Cylinder 2.7T will hold overdrive also (maybe not with that load, not sure). It has a turbo and it's a 1/2 ton but that engine is a MONSTER when compared to all light duty v8s. Surprised how well the zilla did... can you test a TurboMAX 2.7 with the same trailer?
@CTECH-REVIEW
@CTECH-REVIEW 9 күн бұрын
I would love to do that test!
@Mattman2500
@Mattman2500 11 күн бұрын
You got same, mpg in the diesel. That I get pulling a 10,200lbs 5th wheel. With a Ram 2500 6.4 with 4:10 gears. I kinda want a diesel since I tow a lot and heavy, but still not sure.
@CTECH-REVIEW
@CTECH-REVIEW 10 күн бұрын
Nice. That’s great fuel mileage! I have another towing video coming soon you might like.
@russclark4872
@russclark4872 10 күн бұрын
Nice video. Any thoughts on the 6.7 powerstroke
@CTECH-REVIEW
@CTECH-REVIEW 9 күн бұрын
great motor! I have had a few of them!
@Kevin-midmichigan
@Kevin-midmichigan 19 күн бұрын
The only thing besides the constant shifting from a gasser is the transmission temperature they run at..cummins is always around 192ish..atf starts breaking down around 235..thats gotta be harder on them...Love the cummins engine brake
@slidewide1999
@slidewide1999 19 күн бұрын
That’s more of a ford thing…even the powerstrokes run about 210-220. My Cummins runs a constant 168-170 towing 12k unless it’s in stop and go traffic.
@SliderFury1
@SliderFury1 18 күн бұрын
​@@slidewide1999I've heard this too and that they're designed for the higher temps so it's fine. Probably 😅
@Frontpagefab
@Frontpagefab 18 күн бұрын
My 2011 F150 EB trans temps were in the 210-220 range and I called the dealer to see if something was wrong. They said it was normal.
@CTECH-REVIEW
@CTECH-REVIEW 18 күн бұрын
Thanks for the comment!
@AK_Ray
@AK_Ray 18 күн бұрын
You're comparing to vastly different transmissions with two vastly different transmission fluids. The new mercon LV that the Ford 10-speed uses is designed to run at a much higher temperature. The internal thermostat in the transmission doesn't even open until 218
@Tom-ds5uk
@Tom-ds5uk 15 күн бұрын
Would you recommend it for daily use towing 8-10 k ? Ford 7.3 that is ?
@CTECH-REVIEW
@CTECH-REVIEW 15 күн бұрын
Tough call. Depends on your use case. Do you drive long highway towing at higher speeds? Lots of mountains or high elevations? That’s where diesel really shines over gas. I could easily see my next hd truck being a 7.3l for my use. 3k-9k enclosed trailers for midwestern use!
@JakeScott-ke3sh
@JakeScott-ke3sh 18 күн бұрын
The last truck I’d buy is a gas 3/4 ton.
@CTECH-REVIEW
@CTECH-REVIEW 18 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching
@joatmon1857
@joatmon1857 18 күн бұрын
Need to try a GM 6.6 operates similar (if not the same as the Forde 7.3) has little less power than the Ford but will to bet $ for $ does better MPG!
@CTECH-REVIEW
@CTECH-REVIEW 18 күн бұрын
I would love to do that!
@terrysoule8441
@terrysoule8441 19 күн бұрын
I have a '21 Tremor with 7.3. Last summer I did a 6000 mile cross country trip. Starting from Auburn CA, through NV, UT, WY, NE, IA,IL, KY, TN, AR, TX, NM, AZ and through 29 Palms back to Auburn. I have a 12.5k fifth wheel (was 20,500 gvw) and averaged 9.8 mpg for the trip. So I am wondering why your mileage was so much poorer?
@CTECH-REVIEW
@CTECH-REVIEW 18 күн бұрын
Impressive fuel economy. Our conditions in Michigan are windy and fast speeds.
@AK_Ray
@AK_Ray 18 күн бұрын
My guess would be, speed. 7.3's can get pretty darn good fuel mileage but anything over 65 and it plummets like a rock. I'll bet in this test if he would have dropped it 5 mph it would have beaten that Cummins for a few mileage.
@terrysoule8441
@terrysoule8441 18 күн бұрын
@CTECH-REVIEW tell me you haven't been to Wyoming without telling me you haven't been to Wyoming. And add 7200 ft elevation too.
@bparkinson1234
@bparkinson1234 19 күн бұрын
Engine braking was not shown while in tow mode. Touch brake for two seconds and show downshifting. Again 8 9 and 10 are overdrives. Think you need to do another video with my three comments below. Also the 7.3 trans is the same 140 trans in the powerstroke.
@CTECH-REVIEW
@CTECH-REVIEW 19 күн бұрын
Another video sounds great!
@benyoak
@benyoak 18 күн бұрын
How is the reliability on a 7.3 gas engine versus 6.7Cummins?
@CTECH-REVIEW
@CTECH-REVIEW 17 күн бұрын
Great question I think both are pretty reliable from what I’ve seen
@ericmackison9517
@ericmackison9517 9 күн бұрын
220 for the trans seems a little high for that load. My Asin only get to 165 towing a similar load on 100 degree days in the mts.
@CTECH-REVIEW
@CTECH-REVIEW 9 күн бұрын
I agree!
@douglasdonegan9372
@douglasdonegan9372 15 күн бұрын
My 2000 f350 4x4 dulley 7.3 tows sweet with a powermax turbo
@CTECH-REVIEW
@CTECH-REVIEW 15 күн бұрын
Nice setup!
@tm12productions5
@tm12productions5 19 күн бұрын
Why is your steering wheel off center?
@CTECH-REVIEW
@CTECH-REVIEW 19 күн бұрын
Which truck?
@bparker8195
@bparker8195 19 күн бұрын
​@@CTECH-REVIEW Ford
@fozzybear9114
@fozzybear9114 18 күн бұрын
Wait till 6.7 straight 6 cummins gas arrives!
@CTECH-REVIEW
@CTECH-REVIEW 18 күн бұрын
Will be awesome!
@M_dot202
@M_dot202 17 күн бұрын
The 6.7 had a 18% better mpg number over the 7.3. In my area of the country diesel is 30% more expensive than 87 octane gas. Advantage 7.3. Also the tremor isn't the best towing option in the Super Duty lineup, increased ride height, 4.30s and larger AT tires, both contribute to lower mpg figures.
@CTECH-REVIEW
@CTECH-REVIEW 17 күн бұрын
You will love my third video!
@M_dot202
@M_dot202 17 күн бұрын
@@CTECH-REVIEW we towed a 6500lb camper from TN to ME thru the Appalachians up to the White Mountains...hand calculated 8.6mpg for the entire trip. The 7.3 is an excellent HD engine option for probably 95% of recreational towers. The 10R140 is garbage in my experience.
@richardjohnson8420
@richardjohnson8420 13 күн бұрын
Transmissions tend to fail. So does the engine
@CTECH-REVIEW
@CTECH-REVIEW 13 күн бұрын
Good point!
@hularock2705
@hularock2705 18 күн бұрын
The 6.8 is just as impressive to tow with .
@CTECH-REVIEW
@CTECH-REVIEW 18 күн бұрын
I believe it.
@martinmdl6879
@martinmdl6879 4 күн бұрын
Power running boards are free upgrade. Who would not order that?
@CTECH-REVIEW
@CTECH-REVIEW 4 күн бұрын
I agree!
@Weatherby406
@Weatherby406 18 күн бұрын
I wouldn’t touch a modern diesel. Nothing but problems
@CTECH-REVIEW
@CTECH-REVIEW 18 күн бұрын
I can understand that. You will like the next video!
@AK_Ray
@AK_Ray 18 күн бұрын
You don't need to put it in manual mode to lock out 10th literally just leave it in tow haul and click the down button
@CTECH-REVIEW
@CTECH-REVIEW 18 күн бұрын
Great point!
@AK_Ray
@AK_Ray 18 күн бұрын
Bro, 8, 9, &10 are all overdrive
@CTECH-REVIEW
@CTECH-REVIEW 18 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@Jeff-sh4kx
@Jeff-sh4kx 19 күн бұрын
So…. You bought it then?
@CTECH-REVIEW
@CTECH-REVIEW 19 күн бұрын
Haha not yet! This is all for science!
@techs1smh13
@techs1smh13 18 күн бұрын
What ring and pinion in ford
@CTECH-REVIEW
@CTECH-REVIEW 18 күн бұрын
4.30 gearing
@AK_Ray
@AK_Ray 18 күн бұрын
4:30 in a Dana m275
@techs1smh13
@techs1smh13 18 күн бұрын
That's what I thought.
@techs1smh13
@techs1smh13 18 күн бұрын
If gas engines have so much torque they shouldn't need 4.30. Ring and pinion.
@jameseroh6544
@jameseroh6544 14 күн бұрын
​@@techs1smh13- 4.30 gearing allows taller tires on the very heavy truck. 3.73 would work very well for stock tires.
@SVT-gj8tp
@SVT-gj8tp 18 күн бұрын
Run that cummins in 5th gear. Lock out 6th and you should get better gas mileage.
@CTECH-REVIEW
@CTECH-REVIEW 18 күн бұрын
Not in my truck. I get worse towing mpg in 5th gear
@kylejudd532
@kylejudd532 18 күн бұрын
From the looks of the steering wheel it appears that dodge still can’t build a front end
@CTECH-REVIEW
@CTECH-REVIEW 18 күн бұрын
Haha! Already had ball joints and u joints done!
@dougbrockman8982
@dougbrockman8982 18 күн бұрын
Why can't you compare apples to apples? Why do you always have to put dodges Diesel. against FORD gas engines?
@CTECH-REVIEW
@CTECH-REVIEW 18 күн бұрын
Feel free to check out my superduty diesel playlist. I think I have 20+ super duty diesel towing videos.
@Tom-ds5uk
@Tom-ds5uk 15 күн бұрын
I live in southwest more city driving
@CTECH-REVIEW
@CTECH-REVIEW 15 күн бұрын
7.3 can do that!
@Tom-ds5uk
@Tom-ds5uk 15 күн бұрын
@@CTECH-REVIEW you would suggest 3.73 or 4.30 ?
@stevenwalker7928
@stevenwalker7928 17 күн бұрын
Want last
@CTECH-REVIEW
@CTECH-REVIEW 16 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@TheRealCatof
@TheRealCatof 18 күн бұрын
Nobody needs a car this big
@fit4ya1975
@fit4ya1975 18 күн бұрын
Thankfully Its not a car
@TheRealCatof
@TheRealCatof 18 күн бұрын
@@fit4ya1975 Car: a four-wheeled road vehicle that is powered by an engine and is able to carry a small number of people
@CTECH-REVIEW
@CTECH-REVIEW 18 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching
@CTECH-REVIEW
@CTECH-REVIEW 18 күн бұрын
👍😂
@CTECH-REVIEW
@CTECH-REVIEW 18 күн бұрын
True!
@brianr3424
@brianr3424 18 күн бұрын
I would never tow my trailer @ 70 ! U r taking a chance of severe damage due to blow out. RV tires r NOT designed 2b driven @ 70
@CTECH-REVIEW
@CTECH-REVIEW 18 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching! My tires are rated at 87mph. But I would never go over 70!
@jeffclark4008
@jeffclark4008 14 күн бұрын
Not sure what trailers you have been using on your trailers, but the trailers and RV's I've been towing have 87mph tires on them. I have a 47' Jayco Seismic with 6 Goodyear beast tires and they are awesome. I have an F450 and on the open highway, she pulls that monster at 70+ mph in CC no problem, steep hills or not. Buy better trailers maybe.
@slaytanic921
@slaytanic921 7 күн бұрын
@@CTECH-REVIEWwe must c run the c same tires. I do the speed limit (70) but might start dropping to 65 after my last close call.
@nunyobizkneez
@nunyobizkneez 19 күн бұрын
this compare is a little off. should have just let the F250 do the trans hunting, yes, it does affect MPG, but the compare isnt fair when you didnt play with the trans on the 2500. Also, the weights were also off, you ran with over 1/2 tank of fuel on the 2500 and only 1/4 tank of fuel on the F250, which matters. Instant MPG is useless. Lets also talk about fuel up frequency and difficulty. F250 you get stuck in the gas lanes, 2500 you can use truck lanes. Re-sale value > Diesel. Longevity > Diesel. Fuel cost? I would say fairly even. Put 10k on both trucks and see the GIANT difference in performance between the two. 7k is nothing for either of these trucks. Even though not a 1:1 comparison, still an ok one. Also, terrain matters, come out west and do this compare, diesel outperforms all day long.
@CTECH-REVIEW
@CTECH-REVIEW 19 күн бұрын
Thank you for the comments. I put both trucks in cruise. I own the Cummins. I think you will enjoy video video number 3 coming soon!
@jabroni6199
@jabroni6199 19 күн бұрын
The longevity argument is a relic from 20 years ago. That’s no longer an advantage for diesels with all the emissions crap on them. I have a F350 with the 7.3 and pulled a 28’ enclosed (35’ overall length) cargo trailer from Sacramento to San Diego and the truck stop argument is spot on. I had to be very carful and deliberate on where to fuel up. Had my co-driver looking up satellite images of upcoming gas stations to make sure we have room to get in and out. Ive had the truck for nearly a year and it’s been the only time I wanted a diesel, for that reason alone. I ordered a 58 gallon replacement fuel tank after that trip. Still waiting on it to arrive.
@user-ch2nv4mi3c
@user-ch2nv4mi3c 19 күн бұрын
I could definitely see where finding a gas pump may be a problem.
@user-lf8du6ht8x
@user-lf8du6ht8x 18 күн бұрын
I've got the same problem with gas stations. 2022 GMC 2500 6.6 gas and a 36' 5th wheel. I've learned that most flying Js have rv gas lanes. And yes google satellite is your friend!
@SliderFury1
@SliderFury1 18 күн бұрын
​@@user-lf8du6ht8xthis is something that actually makes Ford's connected navigation possibly worth the cost. I haven't used it myself yet but from my research, when you use trailer routing and search for gas stations along the route, it will prioritize stations that are known to fit RVs, like Flying J's or Pacific Prides.
@fit4ya1975
@fit4ya1975 18 күн бұрын
7mpg? No thanks
@CTECH-REVIEW
@CTECH-REVIEW 18 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@roynelson3207
@roynelson3207 17 күн бұрын
Sorry man, lost a lot of respect when u let someone take ur R
@CTECH-REVIEW
@CTECH-REVIEW 17 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching! More off road trucks to come!
@sevaguillon1619
@sevaguillon1619 18 күн бұрын
The one huge advantage diesel still has regardless is fueling up at gas stations when towing 😒🥲
@techs1smh13
@techs1smh13 18 күн бұрын
And smiling going up or down hill.
@sevaguillon1619
@sevaguillon1619 18 күн бұрын
@@techs1smh13 yup. I still have a gasser though. I only tow occasionally (travel trailer). Ram 6.4 it does what I need it to but I does gear hunting often
@CTECH-REVIEW
@CTECH-REVIEW 18 күн бұрын
True
@AmericanSurvival001
@AmericanSurvival001 13 күн бұрын
One caveat! About this truck if you buy it as you’re only vehicle, you will spend five to $600 a month as a daily driver equivalent of another vehicle payment in gas! Too many people forget this. I have friends who owned one and they quickly realized they were spending twice as much on fuel as they had previously don’t buy this vehicle as a daily driver the gentleman who makes this video owns many trucks and has a lot of money fuel. Mileage is not a factor in his life and when you try to resell your Ford Tremor, you will take a $15,000 hit immediately Yeah, let’s thank Dodge for keeping Ford honest. they are the reason that Ford had to make the 73 since Ford was forcing V6 twin turbo engines on everybody, including the raptor and the F150 and they were garbage to tow with. They thought people would love to listen to a six cylinder engine whining out at 3500 RPMs all day long while towing, stupid Ford. The coyote is too small to tow with as well so Ford had to match Dodge in Power so they were forced to reinvent another push rod engine, which brought the 73 and now it’s in everything instead of the sixes thank you for keeping honest without competition they would never innovate.
@CTECH-REVIEW
@CTECH-REVIEW 13 күн бұрын
Thank you for the comment and for watching. Excellent point on how expensive it is to daily Drive heavy duty trucks. Completely agree.!
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