RAM WARRANTY & COSTS for PROMASTER VAN Conversion to Class B Winnebago TRAVATO RV 1.5 yr ownership

[@AR-cw4he]

I’m learning a lot from you Scott, Thank You 🍦

[@gosmall.livelarge]

And that is my goal, A R… for your to learn more quickly from my experience

[@rfleming7883]

Congrats on your decision to go with the Travato and the Ram Promaster chassis. I could see the fear when talking Mercedes Sprinter diesel! Yes, those are nicely designed but expensive if repair is needed. So yes, I think your choice of a Promaster is a good choice. Thanks for a fantastic video detailing your experience.

[@jannezack]

Thanks for your notes on the promaster. I believe I have decided on the Promaster for my self conversion to an RV and seeing your repairs freaked me out a bit but hearing you say you’d buy it again was reassuring. You e really put a lot of miles on it in 1.5 years!

[@gosmall.livelarge]

Glad it was helpful!

[@pamwalker3517]

I love my 2016 Roadtrek Zion (Promaster). Voluntary upgrades I did: Sumo Springs on rear & a steel plate over the 2nd alternator. Recent ignition replacement only mechanical problem (totally locked up). Am 2nd owner, & got good purchase price when Roadtrek went belly up a year ago & their future was uncertain. Luckily I purchased a service contract for RV appliances & Ram mechanical (Protective Asset Platinum plan--bought online, NOT from dealership) and so a $860 dealership ignition repair, only cost me $100 deductible. (Entire ignition switch & all locks replaced as well as special order laser cut keys.) Service contract also covered the tow. Yes, I went to a dealership & good thing, too. The parts took 1 month to come in bc of a glitch in the Chrysler corporate parts system, so I called Ram Customer Care & FCA Group (Fiat Chrysler) picked up my entire car rental for the whole month! This rental reimbursement would never have happened if I'd taken it to an unauthorized Ram repair facility. Since the Protective service contract also covered car rental for a covered repair (but only for a 2 hour flag time job, meaning only for 2 days @ up to $75 per day), I actually made money on the repair. I love my Promaster--gas engine, low center of gravity, front wheel drive, more cargo space than Sprinter or Transit.

[@gosmall.livelarge]

thanks for sharing :)

[@ronwiejaczka8635]

Scott I have a Dodge ProMaster 2017 RV Roadtrek Zion with 32,000 miles on it. Knock on wood I only had idler pulley replace on the alternator system and oil changes. Hope to be on the road soon, so stay healthy and safe.

[@gosmall.livelarge]

thx for sharing

[@cathietonkin5577]

Thank you for doing this video. We are about 11 months from purchasing a Ram Winnebago Travato K! This is info that’s a must for a newbie! I’m saving your video for future references for that all important moment when it ‘hits the fan’! Wishing you apply and safe travels!!!!

[@gosmall.livelarge]

Great to hear!

[@r.a.lafleur7248]

Hi Scott, great video. I purchased a Hymer product based on the Promaster. I decided on the Promaster for the same reasons you did. I wanted to avoid the Mercedes expenses. I have had my Promaster at different Dodge dealerships for warranty work and routine maintenance. Three dealerships to be exact. All three were reluctant to work on my van because it was modified. They complained about the weight of the vehicle, the height of the vehicle and the ground clearance. One dealership actually told me their "Promaster Tech" was busy for 3 weeks. My experience has been awful, and I truly believe the techs just don't want to work on these vans or don't know HOW to work on these vans. Keep up the great work!

[@gosmall.livelarge]

Good to know our experiences are similar. Glad you continue to Journey-ON!

[@gjonesii]

I appreciate the detailed report. Glad you are having a good experience with your van.

[@gosmall.livelarge]

Thanks for watching!

[@n2cycles]

I love your van and your information as a retired truck mechanic I can't see buying a truck with front wheel drive. Seriously this is the same engine as in the Jeep Wrangler and in my opinion not up to the task of hauling a 10k lb vehicle.

[@kipamore]

n2cycles I’ll field this one. I have 3 Promasters, we use them for expedited freight, 100-120k on each per year. The fwd is a plus, not a minus. We run them right up to 10,000lbs (5400 dry) all day every day no problem. Zero tranny issues. Even though it’s a 6 speed, internally it’s actually an 8 speed but for 2 gears the ratios are so close it uses one for accel and one for decel. Cooling systems on these vans are severely overbuilt, and the drivetrain has some great stuff. Over-run clutch on the alternator so belts last 300-400k. Individual coils on iridium plugs that last 200-300k. Timing chain as opposed to belt, fully oiled and tensioned by oil pressure. Electric hydro boost on the brakes, so no vacume issues. Dont ask me why, but in 1.3 million miles we have never had a problem with rings or tapered bores or any of that. Because they are fwd, rear tires last 200k which is outstanding. It seems counter intuitive, but fwd and V6 is just not a problem on these vans.

[@nocturnal7312]

I don't know, I bought my 2001 Mazda Tribute SUV brand new for $21,000 and here it is 2020 It's got 200,000 miles, I've probably spent around $750.00 in repairs, Still driving it every day. I think David Mueller say's it best below, "This all sounds like the dealers need a great profit center." !!

[@douglastoney2843]

Thanks Scott for another excellent video. You put out some great content. I'm surprised that you don't have more subscribers. I'm thinking the rocker replacements and the dirty engine stuff was bogus. I've had to replace oxygen sensor valves on different makes. That is not all that uncommon. We are still sheltering in place. We drive our new Travato KL that we purchased 1/31/2020 to the grocery store once every two weeks. Our warranty is slipping by and we aren't getting much use out of it. No problems so far. Our van is holding up under the pressure of the bi-weekly grocery store trips (3 miles round trip). I'm writing a screenplay. I get inspiration by going out to my Travato and pretending I am in Monument Valley or Kodachrome State Park (that's where we were supposed to be next week).

[@gosmall.livelarge]

Travatos to the grocery! One of the best trips you make!

[@bmwdutch22]

Hello Scott, So nice to see that you are safe and healthy settled in South Florida. Thanks for sharing the nerdy side of your travels. I find that very important, especially needing to know how well the dealerships interacted with you with this modified RAM van. Keep posting and stay safe!

[@gosmall.livelarge]

thx KR

[@53puffin]

Hey Scott, I wanted to share my experience with our 2019 Ram chassis, Lexor by Pleasureway. My engine light kept coming on also...the dealer tried a couple of quick fixes which lasted a whole day before the light came back on. After a more thorough inspection, they discovered that the chassis electrical wiring harness had been chewed by squirrels!!! This was not covered by warranty but my insurance covered it under “vandalism”. So after a 500$ deductible, it was fixed. But then my question was,”what’s to keep it from happening again?” The dealer had no answer but said that it is a common problem...the plastic coating on the electric wires is now a soy-based product instead of a petroleum-based plastic. Rodents love the soy plastic! They think it’s crackers! Lol. Finally, after trying several products, I had a device installed under the hood connected to the chassis battery that sends out a strobe intermittent light and a high frequency sound that apparently rodents hate but people can’t hear. So far, it has worked and that’s my Ram story. Love, love my Lexor and love your channel! Ronda Lawhead

[@jokomoto2]

Can you share the name of the "device" you used to chase the squirrels away? We have some pretty aggressive squirrels in the PNW.

[@53puffin]

Ultrasonic Rodent Repellent for automobiles by Loraffe

[@53puffin]

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[@sharimctiver8952]

Very helpful post! Thank you!

[@gosmall.livelarge]

squirrels 🐿 !!

[@StealthGTI]

It's amazing to compare how people manage their expectations. I posted a 3-year anniversary video about my car. I use it for EVERYTHING, even towing trash to the dump and supporting bicycling events with trailered water/ice, and put 93,000 miles on it during those three years. My video showed EVERY flaw, most of which was self-inflicted from my own use and abuse. People lost their minds! Many proclaimed that their Japanese cars (with far fewer miles) had been perfect and that VW's were trash. The car has needed no warranty work after fixing a few delivery flaws and I've spent less than $500 to repair VW-fault problems. I think that's pretty good! Having to spend $2000 on a one year old van would peeve me, but I wouldn't expect things to be perfect. Some people do, though. Keep up the good work!

[@gosmall.livelarge]

thx for sharing.

[@dennyhunthausen9717]

The cost is only one element. The nature of some of these problems could have been catastrophic. And, they take a lot of time and energy going from dealer to dealer (Dodge and Winnebago) to diagnose, negotiate and repair. All makes have issues and recalls but I’ve gravitated toward Toyota with other vehicles and it’s definitely noticeable in terms of reliability and general BS. I’m still “in” with a pro master-based RV because their aren’t a lot of choices when it comes to the design and features W offers. Even so, it’s good to do so with your eyes open.

[@rickbaker2330]

Thank you Scott, that was excellent information. It is good to know the business end of the ownership part of owning a class B RV. I have really enjoyed your travels and your style of filming, and this too was another awesome video from you. I really appreciate the great knowledge, you have departed to us. Keep up the great relaying on information!

[@gosmall.livelarge]

Glad it was helpful!. Please join the free channel two-way teleconference Thu-23-Apr at 7 PM Central to ask more questions! Details on my website, GoSmallLiveLarge.com

[@marybeth488]

Hey there Scott! I listened to the whole video thinking you would be mentioning the recall on the 2018 Ram 3500 Promaster. I know this won't mean out-of-pockets costs for me, but it is significant. Did you get the letter? "The transmission shifter cable could separate, disconnecting the transmission shifter from the transmission....." Currently I am waiting for the parts for this recall to become available. I am hoping the parts are available and the work done by the time the campgrounds are opened up here in Minnesota. Regardless, I thought this video was a very important reminder to keep your RV serviced and Dodge has great warranties! Thanks!

[@thegingerwalkabout1550]

We're all in this recall boat together, 2019s too. Since they estimate only 3% of the vehicles out there actually have a problem I'm not concerning myself too much but it sure would be nice to get it fixed. In the mean time, always use the parking break! 😀

[@marybeth488]

@@thegingerwalkabout1550 Yes - that is our safety net at this point! Didn't know other years were affected. I hope you are staying safe and healthy out there!

[@gosmall.livelarge]

I have received no letter from Ram/FCA. The van was at the dealer twice this month, Apr 2020, with them not mentioning it. I didn't ask about it specifically though. Current virus shut/slow downs are helping things get fixed Quincy I'm sure. Tx for your question. HELLO TGW :)

[@davekent20]

Love the 1964 Lincoln Continental shirt. That's the car I always wanted. One day.

[@gosmall.livelarge]

TRUTH... one my my fave cars of all time 1969 Continenetal

[@erickessen5237]

I bought a Jeep Rubicon with the same engine . I use it daily on and off road . It has right at 80.000 miles on it and other than regular oil and filter changes ; I had to change my brakes front pads that's about it ! LOL . Five dealer visits to take care of problems seems a bit excessive to me !

[@gosmall.livelarge]

Thx for sharing Eric

[@Ded-Ede]

Thanks for this informative video because I pretty much have my mind stuck on the Ram vans rv buildouts for the same reasons you stated.

[@gosmall.livelarge]

Go for it! Please join the free channel two-way teleconference Thu-23-Apr at 7 PM Central to ask more questions! Details on my website, GoSmallLiveLarge.com

[@herdfan697278]

Thanks Scott for the run down on your ProMaster! Stay safe!👍🤠🙏✝️

[@gosmall.livelarge]

You bet

[@cr8blitz22]

Thanks for the info Scott. Awesome vid! (cool hat)

[@gosmall.livelarge]

Thanks for watching!

[@30AndAWakeUp]

I was looking for vids just like this...then bam this vid pops up. Just finalized my purchase yesterday!

[@gosmall.livelarge]

Suspense... what did you finalize upon?

[@30AndAWakeUp]

@@gosmall.livelarge I got the 59KL National Park edition but I can't pick it up until June because of the recall. :(

[@thegingerwalkabout1550]

Totally agree, love my Ram van. Some of the Winnebago stuff not so much (still trying to figure out the roof leak.) And don't forget about the "fleet commercial powertrain plan" that Winnebago adds to the original Ram warranty to make it 5 years/100,000 mi total for the power train! That additional coverage will show up on the dealer's VIP Summary Report that should be run any time you take the vehicle to a Ram dealer. And only use BusinessLink Ram dealers for service!

[@gosmall.livelarge]

Whoa!! seriously juicy leaning their from The Ginger Walkabout. Love how we learn together and share together on this channel. TGW :)

[@KamperKen638]

I have a pleasureway on a Ram van with 43000 miles. I have nexus tires about 50% worn.beside oil and rotation my only expense was $160.00 for a battery.

[@gosmall.livelarge]

You has a winner! Thanks for watching and commenting Kenneth

[@ToniAdventures]

Good morning Scott! That was a good review of owner costs. Thanks.

[@gosmall.livelarge]

Thanks 👍

[@tomaustin4526]

Very informative video post 👍😊🚌🌎🎥🎶 thanks for sharing and be safe

[@gosmall.livelarge]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@1234superduper]

Great video. I am subscribed. :)

[@gosmall.livelarge]

Wow!! Thank you Patrick for believing in us enough to be part of our success. WELCOME to GSLL !!

[@MichaelWellman1955]

I have a love/hate relationship with the Dodge/Ram part of my Travato. One of the biggest problem with the van is that technology on this vehicle is 20 years old. As you intimated here part of the problem is that there is the limited information the Ram is giving you. The problem isn't that the information isn't available but that Ram has not updated their system. I solved my problem by replacing the radio (which is horrible) with better radio (that has Apple Play), a 9.5" screen and most important it connects to engine info system so I get actual numbers for tire pressure, Oil, temp, water temp, and so much more. Highly recommend it so you can see what your vehicle is doing in real time.

[@kipamore]

I beg to differ. What makes the promaster great is that the tech is old and proven. The trans has been in production since 2004 and is bulletproof. The engine is throughly modern (variable cam timing, variable oil pump displacement) but everything is proven. One bit of “tech” - there is a freewheeling clutch built into the alternator pulley, which is why we get 300-400 thousand miles out of a belt. The ecu on the promaster is the same one used in every chrysler and it’s excellent and trouble free. The chassis and body have been in production in europe for 30 years, and are mostly bulletproof. Anyway, the only comparable van is the Transit, and while those arent bad, all that turbo and direct injection technology is a maintenance headache. Water pump on a promaster? $30 and a couple hours. On a Transit? $1200. In short, less tech the better. Also, I use a wi-fi dongle ($12) and a free app on the phone to read codes and monitor the engine.

[@gosmall.livelarge]

I prefer the simplicity of the Promaster. Ever jump into a rental car and can't figure anything out, sometimes not even how to start the car. Promaster please :)

[@rickybreaux2607]

Seems like you have more problems than you should. That van is still brand new. I just traded in my Winnebago Paseo ford transit. Had it 2 years and 24,000 miles. Just changed oil and rotated tires. Got another ford transit. Coachman beyond with lithium . Loving it so far. Just 2 months old and been on lock down. Btw I’ve only owned fords my whole 55 years.

[@gosmall.livelarge]

congrats on our RV and overall experience. so happy for you

[@markweiner3896]

Hmm, you don't think Winnebago would build a vehicle that is overweight? I think that this kind of thing might happen more than you think? I have a suggestion for you, first, get your coach weighed, take it to a Cat Scale and find out what the front and rear axle is. There's specifications for this, and you can be armed with this information. Next, I would call Super Steer in Grants Pass Oregon. Talk with them about your issues. They are experts in suspension. Tire pressure monitoring system, check out Truck System Technologies. They have a dashboard monitor that will give you the precise tire pressure and temperature. If you have a fast leak it will sound an alarm. For way less than $500, you can have a very nice tire pressure monitoring system with real time pressure right on your dashboard. Super Steer works with a lot of independent RV shops and is a well recognized shop part of Henderson's Line Up since 1961. Brakes are a function of how you drive, your overall costs are not bad, but, you might want to check your suspension. Good luck.

[@gosmall.livelarge]

Love your recommendations. I had Lily weight, 8500 overall. thx for thoughtful comments.

[@jamey48]

The rocker issue sounds sketchy to me as well. And a dirty engine ? It seems to me that all should have been taken care of under warranty. Either way it was a good video. Thanks for sharing your experiences with that. I just bought a ford transit van that I'm converting into a camper. Being a truck driver I don't have time to do the work myself so I have to pay someone to do it. It's a long slow process . Good luck in your travels.

[@commshopctr]

As a Travato owner wannabe. I have please my wife as well. She doesn’t like the comfort of the passenger seating. Was looking at the Boldt instead but it’s built on the MB Sprinter chassis with a Diesel engine and that is a turn off... Stay safe!

[@gosmall.livelarge]

Thanks for sharing. Hmmm on the seating comfort; it is rather upright. You are a smart man to keep your wife happy :) Boldt is nice.

[@clarasmith1873]

Placebo effect on the partial repair on the wobble.

[@gosmall.livelarge]

Strangely, wobble eliminated with my van lift.

[@ryanbirr1668]

I've noticed no ads on the last couple of your videos. I've seen other youtubers say any mention of corona or covid has advertisers leery and the algorithm watches for it. Don't know if there's anything to it, but as they say "the more you know..."

[@gosmall.livelarge]

Hey Ryan. You are observant. YT does has COVID rules deployed. I literally just monetized my channel through YT in the last 72 hours. Time to try and make a few $$ at this game. thx for being along for the ride for well over a year now sir.

[@lesjocelyn4491]

We ordered a 2022 Travato KL and it should be here in February. Love the videos! Would you suggest trading up on the wheels and tires? Thanks Scott

[@gosmall.livelarge]

Congrats Les. excited for you!! Yes, give the wheels and tire upgrades serious consideration

[@crispy63]

Hey Scott. Thanks for the ProMaster warranty review. I was wondering if the shimmy you feel was still going on. Last July, I purchased the exact same van used in my Regency National Explorer Tour. I don’t have any shimmy in it and have been very happy with the van’s performance. Granted, I’m only part time on the road and have just 6k miles on it. Take care and hope to catch up once the virus is over and you are in the DF area again. Stay healthy!

[@gosmall.livelarge]

Hey Crispy. thx for sharing. Yeah, the shimmy is still there but now really an issue for me

[@bandmarc141]

Scott! Great vid! I'm glad you shared that. Funny you mentioned the Mercedes Sprinter hahahaha I was seriously thinking the same...cost if repair because it's a "Mercedes" would be big bucks. Still waiting out for the 59GL or a Beyond with Lithium power. Waiting prob another year to let take advantage of the lower price and older model years. Seems the Ram promaster and the Fords costs are better for maintenance.

[@gosmall.livelarge]

Truth you speak MJ... and not a single emoticon. Maybe first time ever. 😂😂😂😂😂

[@bandmarc141]

@@gosmall.livelarge Hahahahahaha yep 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣

[@JMR-1953]

I bought a used 2016 Chevy Trax a year ago and have had the check engine light come on 3 times. So you need to add "grrrrrrrrrrrrrr" to your list of reactions. LOL

[@gosmall.livelarge]

Grrrrr ;)

[@sandyfrankum6521]

love the hat!!

[@gosmall.livelarge]

thanks!

[@pauulmerucci9081]

Wow! This scares me.

[@joymiller2368]

Scott, I love all of your videos. I could really use your input as I am looking into purchasing a 2022Travato. What is the best way to communicate with you?

[@gosmall.livelarge]

Drop me an email... [e-mail]. I"m a little behind on comms.,. but getting caught up

[@Thesaltymedic36]

As a former Dodge mechanic the work and prices are correct. Not familiar with the engine or the rocker issue but they apparently knew about it. I’m sure a Technical service bulletin was written about it. The engine flush, Eh’ you could have passed. I would have argued the plugs. I’ll split the labor....dealer pays parts because he’s already under there LoL. Still not a lot of money in the big picture. I’m glad Dodge improved the brakes. They use to suck 😂. Nice review though 👍🏼

[@gosmall.livelarge]

Appreciate your insight TSM

[@lefturn99]

Assuming you could prove you had changed the oil at the proper intervals, (and I'm sure you have) I would argue the "Dirty engine" and the tuneup were a product of the rocker arm failure and should have been covered. I would fight that. Good luck.

[@gosmall.livelarge]

thx mike

[@Dave-zl2ky]

This all sounds like the dealers need a great profit center.

[@flyfliker]

Tells me not to purchase a Dodge. Thanks for sharing. first 40k there should be no cost to the owner,

[@weweresnowedin5801]

Hello! Met you at the Tamp RV show. We stayed outside the fence on Friday night and you can over and had a glass of wine and a fun time with us. We have the Ram Promaster Pleasureway Lexor and like it so far (haven't gone very far yet, unfortunately). Enjoyed this video about the maintenance of your rv. Have you found out why you are getting the shimmy? Hope to see you on the road sometime

[@gosmall.livelarge]

YES... that was seriously one of the best nights in Jan 2020.. You guys rule! no remedy on shiny. I'm living with it as real-time patina.

[@ftkinsella]

Stay safe and stay inside. Cheers!!!

[@MichaelWellman1955]

I'm only 6 months in with 7K miles and the van has performed well. As I mentioned in my previous note my problem is with their limited technology. No sensors around the van, no adaptive cruise control, seat adjustments are challenging to use and limited. I agree with your reasoning for going with a gasoline engine, but I wish Ram would update. The Ford Transit may be a better chassis. I'm curious what your gas mileage is? I'm getting 12 mpg which seems low. Thanks again for your videos. Stay safe

[@gosmall.livelarge]

LOL on adaptive cruise. After 40,000 miles I hardly ever use the standard cruise. Monitoring the throttle helps me stay awake driving Please join the free channel two-way teleconference Thu-23-Apr at 7 PM Central to ask more questions! Details on my website, GoSmallLiveLarge.com

[@MichaelWellman1955]

Go Small. Live Large! Sorry I missed the call. Work got in the way. What kind of gas mileage are you getting? I’m getting 12 mpg and I drive conservative (well at least with my T I do). Seems I should be getting better

[@kimlashombe]

Great information for this T wannabe. Thank you for sharing. But where is your sidekick Luke?

[@gosmall.livelarge]

Safe at home base, that is Vanlife Luke! Thx for asking. Like me he is eager to get back on the road.

[@davidsager4023]

Hi there I have a 2018 pro master I got 64000 on it and only the fan blower motor when out

[@gosmall.livelarge]

Good to know. I’m just about to pass 60,000. Thx for commenting

[@cinepost]

Dig the hat man!

[@gosmall.livelarge]

thx !!

[@GRSEMETROMALL]

Rotate your tires every 5000 miles for max. Life

[@reallytho99]

Still running strong? I've read some scary reviews on promasters and warranty. It would otherwise definitely be my first pick. Just trying to get more info, an update would be great.

[@gosmall.livelarge]

Running strong., 15,000 miles since the cylinder head fix

[@reallytho99]

@@gosmall.livelarge thanks for sharing, do you have to show proof of oil changes and other things to make sure things are taken care of under the warranty? I think that would make sense and I'm not opposed. I just can't understand why some of the reviews and forums have such horror stories of issues, warranty not covering it, and reportedly dodge ram not making a statement about it. Of course customer might not be sharing all the info objectively..

[@larryhogan6684]

Hello Scott, when you replaced the tires did it stop the shimmy/wobble you had at 38-42 mph?

[@gosmall.livelarge]

Did not resolve the Wobblies. Now the dealer would simply blame the non-OEM wheel tire setup, so I live with it. Great memory !

[@277kne]

Hi Scott, I was reminded of you when I saw a Fit Rv video. Do you watch them? They have a Travoto. James pulled out the head liner and put in more insulation. Maybe you could discuss this sometime and ask Terry if he is insulating there. Also you could ask the Winnebago rep.

[@gosmall.livelarge]

Love the Fit RV. Must watch "TV" for all class b owners

[@Gsmith-tz5er]

I wish you would do a tutorial on using the nav. system in the Travato. We have a 2017 Travato G on a 2016 chassis. My wife and I cannot figure out how to put an address in the nav. system. So we use a Garmin Nuvi that is very easy to use. Dodge (Fiat) should have taken a lesson from them! Owners manual is worthless. Thanks

[@gosmall.livelarge]

LOL on the nav system. Tried it twice when cellular service wasn't available. tutorial is to use your smartphone and your fave navigation app. The UI simply is horrendous on the in-dash nav. thx for sharing

[@colormedubious4747]

Very useful info. I'll budget about $1500/year for chassis repairs if/when I get my NPF GL. Yeah, I'm back to "if" because my retirement accounts took a hit of roughly 3 Travatos and have regained less than one Travato. The Chinese Commie Party owes me some serious Travatos! I'm not holding my breath... unless Dr. Fauci recommends it.

[@gosmall.livelarge]

LOL

[@richardburguillos3118]

So... was there any extended warranty offered on the Ram portion that would have covered any of this work? If so, how much and would it have paid for itself? Thanks for sharing.

[@gosmall.livelarge]

Work has been covered by warranty. i did buy the Ram extended warranty after the cylinder head issue. $1900 for 2 years unlimited miles

[@Pinky121971]

Hello Scott, Been following your post on youtube. I wonder if you can share your upgrades you made on the Volta System. Did you get a new heavy duty alternator? to get you from 8700- 11000 Watts in KL /NPF .And The new Air Conditioning Unit you have replaced is it quiet? Thanks.

[@gosmall.livelarge]

Great questions. Any chance you can join us for ... the free channel two-way teleconference Thu-23-Apr at 7 PM Central to ask more questions! Details on my website, GoSmallLiveLarge.com

[@leejoycechung2162]

You probably mentioned this before but being new to your channel, what is your average mpg on your Travato, Dogdg Ram Promaster 3500?

[@gosmall.livelarge]

Hi HI Lee! 12 MPG in the City and 15-18 MPG on highway

[@leejoycechung2162]

Go Small. Live Large! Wow....that’s a lot of money of gas for 40K in 14 months? But i guess if you are having fun ...go for it...LOL

[@travato1592]

That "rocker" issue and dirty engine was BS if you ask me. Mechanics these days are not mechanics. They are computer technicians.

[@bandmarc141]

Hahahaha yeah I thought the same...as soon as Scott said that...I was like....nope I call BS...they knew they weren't going to get much money of the initial so they came up with that to squeeze that money out of him.

[@jokomoto2]

Travato, what do you think the real issue was? Was it primarily the 02 sensors going out?

[@travato1592]

@@jokomoto2 I am not a professional mechanic but I maintain all of my 14 vehicles. I have never heard of a "rocker" causing Scott's issue. In fact have never heard of a rocker having to be replaced. So I don't know about O2 sensors, but would be very interested in what the codes were.

[@enjoylife7030]

Who knows if the rocker issue was real or not. If its a warranty claim that pays well the dealer suggests the repair, the owner approves because its not out of pocket, and the dealership creates revenue from the manufacturer. Could have been the same story with the driver strut assembly and the ball joint replaced at the other dealer which ultimately did not fix the rear end wobble. I am surprised the O2 sensors weren't originally included in the first diagnosis though. They could have been tested and replaced if necessary on the first go round.

[@kipamore]

No, the O2 sensor is legit. What happens on these vans is the cam and lifter/rocker wear, which doesnt allow the valve to seal. This results in a single cylinder misfire, and that misfire puts unburned fuel into the cat which makes it run hot, which takes out the sensor. What’s bullshit is that the dealer didnt catch it when they replaced the rockers and lifters. Basic automotive stuff that any competent tech would know.

[@xrpxtrariceplease2811]

Nice hat Scott!

[@gosmall.livelarge]

TY!

[@RoadsofLife]

I did not realize how short that warranty was for the Travato. Feels like they don't think much of their build out! It's nice that they did pay for the non-warrant work though. So, nerd boy is out in force again... You drove 44,000 miles and spent $1,920. If calculations are correct, that means you spent just under 4 and a half cents a mile on repairs. It also means after one and a half years of ownership, you spent an average of $106.67 a month or $3.50 a day, and spent an average of $384 per dealer. Now that you have this useless information, please continue on with your regularly scheduled RV antics. And say hi to Luke. Be seeing you!

[@kjFL]

In my opinion, in the first year, he should not have had to pay anything, especially given the cost of these vehicles. We started out with a 32-ft Class C, then upgraded to a 33-ft Tiffin Class A. Much better quality at $150K, yet we still had issues. These units, compared to passenger vehicles with lemon laws, have no true quality control and owners have very little recourse but to pay. We are considering the 59G for ease of use and mobility, but this video worries me.

[@gosmall.livelarge]

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[@texasproud3332]

Just watched video most likely the sensors were the real problem and not the rockers and I am a ASE certified mechanic

[@gosmall.livelarge]

TEXAN PROUD!! Thanks for watching and taking time to comment

[@drewsbenmad]

While you're not a mechanic it would serve you well to learn to do some of the simple tasks yourself like replacing air filters. Your vehicle is a complex machine and the more you know about the different systems the better off you will be especially since you're warranty is coming to an end. And nobody should have to replace spark plugs with such low mileage on the engine.

[@gosmall.livelarge]

Thx Drew

[@dennislyden7151]

Hi Scott, another great video! I had the same coolant hose failure on my 2019GL back in February at about 5000 miles, took it to the local RAM dealer (San Jose, CA) and it took them one month to get it repaired and back to me. Part of the delay was the coodination effort with Winnebago as it needed their expertise to get the re-routing of the hose correct. BTW they charged almost twice what you had to pay, but Winnebago has said they will reimburse me. Still waiting for the RV Dealer to send the check. My concern is what if I was many miles from home when this happened? How long did it take them to fix this problem for you, and what did you do for a place to stay? Based on your experience with the various service requirements, do you think RAM dealers give scheduling priority to those away from home or full timers? Thanks!

[@gosmall.livelarge]

Intersting Dennis tat you had the same issue. We were early adopters so hopefully WGO made adjustments. I worked through by WGO dealer on the warranty reimbursement. I had a check within a couple weeks. Situation happened near home base FL, so no issues regarding stay overs. Taught me a valuable lesson about choosing your dealer as carefully as your rig. thx for your comment sir

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[@eddiet4708]

Does the Promaster comes with 4WD from the factory?

[@Snickers4211]

Not in North America. I think European versions have that option.

[@jclauri100]

What type of gas mileage do you get with the Dodge Promaster?

[@gosmall.livelarge]

12ish in the city. 15-18 on the highway.. Pretty good for dragging around 8500 pounds of house around

[@lrodd247]

I'm still torn between the Travato or buying a gutted van and have a professional build it out the way I want it with better materials.. 🤔 But then there's the warranty issue if I have it built! Decisions, decisions..

[@gosmall.livelarge]

Truth

[@andre1987eph]

Maybe just buy a large Japanese SUV and use the savings for a nice tent and motel 6 rooms.

[@gosmall.livelarge]

Yeah, thx but NO... LOL

[@nomadrvmontreal2733]

Great info !! btw, would be nice to meet Kyle (?) sometimes :)

[@gosmall.livelarge]

yeah, he should be on camera more.

[@afwilbanks4172]

Hey Scott Great video as usual!! But your true cost should reflect out of pocket + warranted cost + upgrades (tires) equals true cost for 1 1/2 year operation. Sounds like true cost during this time to be $6-8,000. I'm not sure what the condition of your house is in, but back when I had a sticks n bricks, I don't remember paying $2000.00 let alone having $8,000 for repairs in my first year and a half of moving in. It's nice to have a warranty to fix manufacturer problems, you actually paid for that warranty in the purchase of the vehicle. And then there's a safety recall, WOO, still outstanding on the RAM vehicle. I am uneasy driving a vehicle with known potential of resulting in a crash!!! With all said, hopefully you will take another look at your vehicle cost and experience.

[@gosmall.livelarge]

Not sure I get your math. Upgrades to vehicle in my case have been vanity items and RV lifestyle related. We just $4K into backyard landscaping, $3K into pool repairs, and $1k in irrigators system repairs after owning FL home base house for 1.5 years. I'll take Travato troubles anyway.. Oh, and just discover roof leak on the house this weekend. Not disagreeing with you, but just a prepectives thing.. I get your point AF

[@michellariviere2063]

Sorry sir, The Ram Promaster is not a Dodge, it is a Fiat Ducato.

[@kipamore]

Michel Lariviere This is true, but the drivetrain is 100% chrysler. I have 3 promasters, with a combined 1.3 million miles on them. Very happy with the vans and the drivetrains.

[@robinsnest3855]

I would NOT buy a Ram. I heard many times about problems. The dealerships don't want to take responsibility. Greed!!!!

[@trevorsyversen9956]

$135 for a cabin air filter change??? Dude.

[@gosmall.livelarge]

Right!

[@trevorsyversen9956]

@@gosmall.livelarge KZbin search it. You can do it yourself for under $20.

[@GRSEMETROMALL]

There is a reason independent contractors DON’T BUY PROMASTERS. Transit.

[@kipamore]

Good video. However, I am now going to be “that guy” because Promasters are what I know best (and because I’m quarantine bored). I own 3 2014s, which we use commercially. 540,000 570,000 and 260,000 miles on them. Yes, 1.3 million miles. As you’d expect, I know them intimately. First point, avoid the dealers from here on out. They are the least competent, highest priced, longest wait service you can get! They suck, and I am convinced that Chrysler’s bad reputation is solely due to scummy dealers. Case in point was your wobble. Wobble CAN’T be caused by struts or ball joints. Wobble can only be caused by something that rotates, and suspension doesnt rotate. What a decent mechanic would do is put the rear tires on the front. If the wobble changes, it’s the tires. If it doesnt, you can rule out everything having to do with tires. Moving on...the lifter/rocker is the achilles heel of the pentastar engine. But problems with them are based on wear, and usually cropping up at around 120k. Yes, bad rockers will foul the oxygen sensors so that’s legit. But cleaning the engine is bullshit, as is a “tune up”. There is no such thing on this engine. The plugs are bullshit too. I generally get 300k or more out of plugs, and even if I didnt they are $8 each. That your rockers wore prematurely is probably due to oiling. If I had to guess, you are getting oil changes on the road at quick change places. These places suck, use the worst/wrong oil, and the teenagers who work there know nothing. Long story short: change it yourself with a $40 thing called a Topsider (seach on youtube) and use Penzoil Platinum 5w20 available at every Walmart in the country for the whopping sum of $22.98 for a 5l jug. With the topsider, you wont spill a drop and you wont have to get on the ground under the van. Moving on...air filters last 300+ k. They are gigantic and under $20 at Rockauto. I have never changed a cabin filter, but RV is different from the freight we do. What the dealer charged for your tire sensor is criminal. Part is about $70. What probably took yours out wasnt the sensor, it was the valve stem. Valves on these vans are super sensitive to dirt (and water) and MUST have a valve stem cap in place at all times. The 39 cent cap keeps the water out. Tires: I dont rotate, as the rears last over 200k but the fronts wear every 60-80k. Closing: happy to elaborate on any of these topics. Search my name on youtube and see some of my Promaster videos. With minimal care, you can get hundreds of thousands of miles out of these vans. The Travatos are dreamy.

[@pamwalker3517]

Thank you for this information!

[@kipamore]

Pam Walker happy to share. Feel free.

[@sanfordzeitz9077]

Kip, do you have any thoughts on the Promaster vs. the Transit---particulary the all wheel drive version of the Transit?

[@annecaulder9495]

I’m so glad you took the time to share! I just purchased a bare 2014 high roof ProMaster in October and moved across the country. It does need new struts and plates at 190,000 miles. I was quoted $1,500 to fix that. Also, my particular van now has a sliding door issue and will not close all the way. Have you seen these issues in your vans? Overall, I grew to love this van so far and plan to build into a camper as money allows.

[@kipamore]

Anne Caulder Search my videos for a fairly in depth one about the struts. $1500 is pretty steep, but not totally crazy if you are talking about both struts, all brand new with some other brand new suspension parts. I should stress that any competent mechanic can handle this, no need to involve the dealer. It is little different from any fwd car. As to the side door, yes I too have had problems, mostly due to the latch and power lock actuator. I can offer two bits of advice. One is lube - what happens is everyone gets all lube happy on the hinge and the rollers and especially the track that you see from the outside of the van. The lube attracts dust, and then you end up with a dirty sludge that gums things up. A good first step is to blow away all the existant lube with brake clean (any auto parts store) and start from scratch rather than just keep lubing. I use white lithium grease spray, but any lube should be fine. Another problem with the side and rear doors - most but not all promasters have a vent on the inside rear floor back by the rear doors. It’s purpose is to relieve the air pressure inside the van when you close a door. You’d be surprised at how much of an effect this has. For kicks, try closing your sliding door with any of the other doors open. You may find that this makes enough of a difference in getting the sliding door fully closed. That said, I struggle with the side doors too and on one van I have just stopped using it out of laziness. Hope all that helps.

[@Sluggo67]

You will be unloading this Dodge in a year or 2 because you’ll go broke over the repairs

[@MichaelWellman1955]

Interesting response. Have you had a Ram Promaster with problems? A friend a mine has a Safari Condo on the Ram Promaster and he tells me he has had no issues in 4 years. I think he has 60K miles. thanks

[@pamwalker3517]

Plan on keeping mine for 10 years plus. (Extended service contract. 😊)

[@kipamore]

Sorry to bust your bubble, but I have 3 Promasters with a combined 1.3 million miles on them. They are dirt cheap to maintain, assuming you avoid the dealerships.

[@TechnikMeister2]

You do know that you are driving a rebadged Fiat Ducato, don't you? The diesel is a much better choice. They are bulletproof.

[@gosmall.livelarge]

Yes on Ducato. They were everywhere in Madrid and Barcelona when we visited in 2019.

[@Poncho758]

My God you trivialized everything

[@rogerhansen1314]

buying a Rv is like buying a boat once you take delivery you are on your own. Manufacturers according to themselves claim they have never made a mistake!.Welcome to the blame game

[@wandalllither2452]

whatta bogus cwap--- valve rocker affects fuel/ air ratio...? they fucked you big... there are few O2 sensors control mixture, office collar got owned yall

[@gosmall.livelarge]

Okay !